The Mets and Rays announced a one-for-one trade sending outfielder Jose Siri to New York for reliever Eric Orze. Both players were on their teams’ 40-man roster, so the trade doesn’t have any impact on tonight’s Rule 5 protection deadline.
Siri, 29, spent two and a half seasons in Tampa Bay. The Rays acquired him from the Astros in a three-team trade at the 2022 deadline. Siri has been Kevin Cash’s primary center fielder going back to the start of the ’23 season. He connected on 25 home runs in only 364 plate appearances that year. While the power was enough to make Siri a productive player, he hit .222 with a .267 on-base percentage.
Those already poor marks fell even further in 2024. Siri hit .187/.255/.366 in a career-high 448 plate appearances. He popped another 18 homers but ranked last in OBP among the 207 hitters with at least 400 trips to the plate. Only Mitch Garver had a lower batting average. Since the start of the ’23 season, Siri owns a .203/.260/.424 batting line.
An extreme free swinger, Siri has issues making contact against pitches both within and outside the zone. He went down on strikes at a massive 37.9% rate this year and has fanned in nearly 36% of his career plate appearances. Siri strikes out far too often to be a consistently effective hitter, but he has 20+ homer potential at the bottom of a lineup.
More importantly, Siri has elite athleticism that makes him one of the best defensive players in baseball. He’s a top-of-the-scale runner with elite arm strength. Siri has posted excellent numbers for his glovework in center field. Defensive Runs Saved credited him as 12 runs above average in a little over 1000 innings this past season. Statcast was even more bullish, rating him 15 runs above par. By measure of Statcast’s Outs Above Average, Siri was tied for second with Cardinals rookie Michael Siani among outfielders in defensive value. Only Washington’s Jacob Young narrowly surpassed him. Brenton Doyle and Daulton Varsho are the only outfielders with more Outs Above Average since the start of 2023.
Siri probably slots behind Tyrone Taylor on New York’s center field depth chart. Both players are right-handed hitters, so they don’t make for a natural platoon. Taylor has much better contact skills than Siri brings to the table. He’s coming off a solid .248/.299/.401 showing in his first year as a Met.
There are clear parallels between Siri and Harrison Bader, to whom the Mets gave 437 plate appearances this year. They’re each fantastic defensive outfielders with some power but subpar on-base skills. Bader is again a free agent after playing on a $10.5MM deal. Siri is much more affordable. He’s in his first of three arbitration seasons and is projected for a $2.3MM salary (courtesy of MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz). If the Mets again find themselves in the top tier of luxury tax penalization, they’ll pay roughly $2.53MM in taxes on top of that salary. They control him through the 2027 campaign.
While Siri remained affordable, the Rays were evidently prepared to move on because of his lackluster offense. Their only other player who got an extended look in center field this year was Jonny DeLuca. Acquired from the Dodgers in the Tyler Glasnow trade, DeLuca hit just .217/.278/.331 in his first extended MLB look. He’s nearly as fast as Siri and could be a plus defensive center fielder in his own right, but he doesn’t bring much offensive juice.
While Dylan Carlson once looked like a potential everyday center fielder in St. Louis, his bat has never developed as hoped. Josh Lowe is probably better suited in a corner, though he could theoretically move back to center if the Rays add another bat or want to play Christopher Morel and Richie Palacios in the corner outfield on a regular basis.
As they look to sort out center field, the Rays add to their bullpen depth. Orze, 27, was a fifth-round pick in the shortened 2020 draft. His only big league experience consists of two games for the Mets in July. He was blown up in that limited look, surrendering four runs in 1 2/3 innings.
The 6’4″ righty had a solid year at Triple-A Syracuse. He tossed 61 2/3 innings of 2.92 ERA ball, striking out nearly a third of opponents behind an excellent 15.4% swinging strike rate. Orze walked more than 12% of batters faced and has struggled with his command throughout his pro career. That could relegate him to a middle relief role. Orze uses his changeup as his primary pitch and sits in the 93-94 MPH range with his fastball. He barely has any major league service and can be optioned for another two seasons, so he’ll likely bounce between Tampa Bay and Triple-A Durham on multiple occasions over the next couple years.
Anthony DiComo of MLB.com first reported the terms of the trade. Images courtesy of USA Today Sports.
Siri is a decent player. Why would the Rays do this? Certainly like the deal for the Mets.
Siri’s arb eligible this offseason, with his salary projected around 2.3mil (per the MLBTR arb estimates), whereas Orze only has 1.2 IP in the majors so far.
bingo ^
So they gave up the better player just to have control of a worse player longer? lol
I think it’s more about the money. It’s about a $1.5mil savings for them. I’m not weighing on on whether this is a “good” trade for them, but that money is certainly the main motivator.
DeLuca gives them the exact same production for a third of the cost and Orze has an outlier changeup and the Rays covet outlier pitches. Its a great deal for both teams.
Up for arbitration over the next few years so he’s due for a raise over that time. Chump change for the Mets for his D and production but Rays will look elsewhere and save a few bucks
Siri is a 2 win player making barely anything.
He’s a 2win player but those two wins are coming from defense and baserunning. Hes among the worst hitters in the league.
For a team like the Rays who consistently find guys who can play out of nowhere, they’d probably have no issue replacing him
If his offense doesn’t rebound, he’s no longer a 2-win player.
He was a 2 win player batting 187 last year
You cannot be a two win player with a .187/.255/.366 slash. The stat is broken as it applies to Siri. And I love speed and defense but that is just abysmal.
He’s not just speed and defense. He has power and can take a walk. Rather strange player but no i don’t think WAR is broken.
As a NYM I am cautiously optimistic “A poor mans Cedric Mullins?” I don’t like that he strikes out so much and doesn’t walk – low OBP etc. The NYM batting coach should encourage him to choke up on the bat a little to try to make better contact. You can still hit for power.
Barry Bonds did but he is an outlier/Unicorn
He is relatively young age 29 and inexpensive
Along with Taylor he can start part time and come in for defense to spell Nimmo and Marte
Siri fills a need unfortunately we gave up a young RP who could have helped us.
Run prevention IS Important. Where doubles go to die.
Run down those line drives in the gap!
1.8
Maybe he can start trying to bunt for base hits to get his batting and OBP up. Or just stand right over the plate and don’t move.
I just said as it applies to Siri in this case, the stat has bias in it. And I certainly hear you on his power potential however his .366 SLG and .255 on base says he is not hitting for enough power or walking enough to make that average worth it.
His defense says he’s worth it. I don’t care if you like how the guy accumulates his WAR that’s your own personal bias. All wins count and Siri is a solid player.
Not if he gets 150 PAs.
due a raise for what?
I remember a time years ago when a .184 batting average got you either released or sent to the minors
Yup, 184 average used to get you released, but today people realize last year’s batting average is way down the list of what predicts a players value next year.
His speed, power, and defense give him a very high floor. You could do much worse for a 4th OF
Arbitration is more about service time than performance. Sure, performance matters but when you cross in to arbitration years a player’s salary goes up. This is why guys get non-tendered (when a team parts ways during the arbitration period). Since this is Siri’s first year the raise is minimal. If Siri has the same line in a year or two he would be a candidate to be non-tendered
More like a 5th OF. Even a lot of 4th OFers can hit significantly better with at least decent gloves.
Terrible deal for the Mets. If Tampa wants your pitcher, he’s better than you think.
“He’s better than you think”…I tend to agree to a point, but I’m quite confident in PoBo David Stearns.
He’s not exactly a first or 2nd year rube, like the guy in Boston, who traded a Cy Young winner for a questionable, injury prone SS.
In his defense, Chris Sale was injured the past three years and we have a SS not coming off the books for years
“Chris Sale was injured”…All is well and I understand the Red Sox are considering restoring Craig Breslow’s phone privileges any day now.
I don’t think it was a bad idea at the beginning… I bet I could find others who agree. How the deal unfolded, however, was one sided.
We weren’t going to sign Sale beyond last year though, so our best hope is Grissom starts to play and hit like he did the last month or so of the season.
Looks bad for the Sox but too early to write it off, and with Sale basically a walking injury, it made sense up front
But the guy who traded a Cy young caliber closer for 1 inning of a former Cy young starter probably had a hand in facilitating some of this trade as well, since the guy is now in Tampa Bay.
I would temper your expectations of starting pitchers coming out of or going into Tampa Bay until the executive senior advisor can prove himself. I’ve never seen that guy draft and develop a pitcher, I’ve only seen him trade for half a season of Cliff Lee.
No one was saying this at the time, everyone questioned the deal from the Braves perspective.
Not everyone. I gave Atlanta a A and Boston a F. Absolute steal for Atlanta. Grissom wasn’t a ss either. 2b. I don’t recall a single Boston fan not liking the trade. They loved it. For some reason they believed Grissom was a blue chip prospect SS. Unfortunately their GM believed this as well.
I still don’t blame Breslow for making that trade. It looks bad, but it was only year 1 of Grissom and we weren’t getting Sale back. We weren’t even sure if Sale was going to pitch for us with his injury history. It pained me to trade Sale, but I was okay at the time. I wasn’t thrilled but accepted it. Let’s see if Sale can stay healthy this year.
If he had something chronic wrong sure but he didn’t. He had a option for 2025 and was obviously willing to do an extension.
If you had no intention of contending you trade Sale. No idea why Boston wouldn’t try to contend though. And they could have done much better than Grissom even from the Braves. If not imagine what they would have got at deadline. It was awful trade from day one and even more so now. Grissom would need to be near all star level to justify it. I don’t think that’s in him. Maybe he can be a every day regular and it’s a trade you can live with. That’s in him somewhere.
I trust David Stearns
I can live with whatever Eric Orze becomes. I’m a heeeuuuuuge risk taker.
Orze, reliever of the year in 2025.
I think Stearns has pretty good pedigree of judging pitchers.
Mixed bag on Siri as a Rays fan. Plus defender. Has speed. Doesn’t use his speed offensively. To many games his Offense is nonexistent.
The dude is cocky as hell too for somebody who hits .187
That’s is the main reason I’m glad Siri is no longer a Ray. The cockiness borders on immaturity! Going from KK to Siri both excellent gloves but not the same profesionalism
Siri is fun and dramatic roaming CF…but abysmal at the plate…
With RISP he hit .146, striking out 49x in 103 AB’s…..for example, with a runner on second and 0 outs moved the runner only 32% of the time…..of 274 baserunners on while at bat, only 30 scored., 11% driven in….WAAAAAY
too many unproductive at bats
Easy win for Rays. Mets won as well just not as big. Glove no bat is easy and cheap to get. Ideally you want some bat though. This reliever is backend if Rays can improve control. They wouldn’t trade for him if they didn’t think they could.
He can’t hit consistently which has been a huge problem. He will also become expensive. With everything happening now, it seems like there will be a complete Rays teardown to save Sternberg some money and play his way out of TB.
Guys who can’t hit never get expensive.
Great defender, annoying player. Guess they needed someone to patrol that ocean sized OF
Siri is the proverbial 3 outcome player with a bat. A marginal deal however one rates it.
Except he doesn’t walk….
The third outcome is defense. For the other team.
The 3 outcomes are strike 1, strike 2 and strike 3.
His play is as annoying as his annoyingness
Of course with that attitude he only tries to hit home runs and strikes out a gazillion times
He’s the most hated player since aj pierzynski
It’s not ocean sized. LOL where do you get that from?
Sorry Mets fans, every the tv mentions this guy, your Apple devices are gonna go off
Well let’s hope our devices go off all year when he’s rounding the bases.
STOVE IS HOT
Cheap Bader replacement as defensive sub and pinch runner, but if this guy is starting significant games with his toothpick bat something has gone wrong.
I’m just not sure why they need TWO defense-first outfielders between him and Taylor, and Bader and Taylor last year.
Nobody on the Mets plays right field like Tyrone Taylor. Marte is half of a DH platoon because he’s terrible in the field other than the cannon arm.
I take issue with Taylor’s season being described as “solid”. I’d call it more as “passable”.
Taylor’s defense is excellent. He was 4th in the league in DRS despite only playing 361 innings there.
So “passable” as in “soft” or “really liquid”? Ideally “solid” should be “passable” as well.
“TWO defense-first”…Bader’s as good as gone with this move. It might have been Taylor, except he’s significantly cheaper and just as useful as Bader.
Hey Siri, please put in a decent season 2025.
I remember Brandon Phillips following him around in spring training asking him questions.
Siri says that if a team cannot obtain a player with a 4 letter last name like Soto, then the next best thing is to obtain Siri.
Nido.
Stuff+ seems to absolutely love Ovez’s slider and especially changeup. Siri seems a bit redundant on the Mets’ roster since he’s defense-first and they already have Taylor for two more years.
Marte is often injured, only getting into 94 games this year, 86 in ’23. This is an affordable insurance policy. It’s clear to me Sterns likes quality defensive options in the OF.
Marte’s the backup. Siri would start ahead of Marte if the Mets season began today, and it wouldn’t be close.
No need for Soto now, amirite?
Lol clearly. Right field is already occupied by the almighty Starling Marte. Every fan in attendance gets a bonus ticket to the gun show baby!
Where’s the needle emoji on here?
36 year old Marte moves to DH and maybe he stays healthy enough to play in 120 games and reprise 2021-2022 with the bat.
@hatless
What’s wrong with marte, he may not stay healthy as much as people want, but he’s a still an amazing player.
Why? Would you prefer he play in Boston?
My biggest fear is always the mystery team.
I think every team besides the Yankees and Mets are just laughing and jacking his price up. I think he should stay in the Bronx but Cohen got a taste this year and will not be outbid.
Rays are clearing a spot in the OF
Stearns may disagree but an extra $50M-$75M is meaningless to Cohen.
You are right to fear Mystery Team my friend. In front offices across the land they talk in hushed and fearful tones of Mystery Team, for Mystery Team is an entity of unfathomable power and dread. Some say it is a demon. Others a God, but all know it appears when and where it chooses to carry your team’s favored targets for player acquisitions away in its powerful claws! It cannot be stopped, it cannot be reasoned with. One can only pray that its vast shadow does not fall upon your roster!
You’ll see him in your nightmares
You’ll see him in your dreams
He’ll appear out of nowhere but
He ain’t what he seems
You’ll see him in your head
On the TV screen
And hey buddy, I’m warning
You to turn it off
He’s a ghost, he’s a god
He’s a man, he’s a guru
You’re one microscopic cog
In his catastrophic plan
Designed and directed by
His red right hand . . . of the Mystery Team
Nice lol. Do i detect a nick cave parody here?
Kind of brings to mind Juan Lagares, the old Mets outfielder that could catch anything, but not hit anything.
Lagares was a better hitter than Siri, although not by much
Lagares was one of the more valuable CFers in the game through age 29—when he could take the field. .260/.300/.367 line, 86 OPS+, worth 4.6 bWAR per 650 PA. GG at 25, well deserved.
That’s more valuable by rate than Nimmo or Conforto during their respective stretches with the Mets, Lagares was treated like a failure because he started to get hurt, the Wilpons forced him to play anyway, and his performance crashed. Then they badmouthed him because early on they had paid him a few guaranteed bucks to buy out his first FA year and actually played him into the ground because they wanted ‘their money’s worth.’ Cretins.
Still, even hurt he was about as good a backup OFer as there was in the game. He just couldn’t handle the injury toll once he turned 30.
had nice numbers in AAA last year. Never seen the guy pitch, anyone have any insight?
Awful numbers in AAA last year and year before. That’s why he is being traded.
Stuff is easy plus though so see if Rays can teach him how to pitch.
2.92 era douchbag
1 teams don’t use era. Well maybe White Sox do.
2 for a 26 year old in his 3rd full season of AAA that isn’t anything special.
3 his walk rate is the stat teams are concerned with and why he was traded. Mets had no answer for his control issues.
Will ignore the name calling as you are obviously mentally ill to get that worked up and to only come up with that. Get off the mlbtr and seek some help.
Never trade w/ the Rays. Especially pitching.
It’s either trade this guy or dfa him. Who cares who you trade him to. Take the best return you can get.
Seems like Tampa won this one. Siri is easily replaced with a defense-first CF and Orze had big K numbers in AAA.
Oh, well, if Orze had big K #s in AAA, why bother voting for Cy Young 2025? Inscribe his name on it now!
It’s at best a 26th man trade…
Orze was on his 3rd year at AAA this season. His first two were terrible. There are always some late-bloomers around, but most likely Orze is the last guy in your bullpen if you have a bad bullpen.
Yes nothing like a guy with a very straight 93 mph fastball in the majors.
Yuck!
The guy is a clueless jerk
You don’t appreciate having things in common with players?
as a rays fan Siri is great out their in CF but my god is he annoying. Don’t think the guy has ever hit a slider away either
I just had horrible flashbacks with that last part.
there* . I’m embarrassed.
I was hoping a different outfielder with the initials J.S. Would end up in a met uni
“A different outfielder”…Well, if the Mets do land Soto, it certainly makes sense to add additional defense in the OF.
Stearns is adding the defensive replacement for Soto. Getting ready for when Cohen opens up the pocketbook.
Who plays CF for Tampa Bay now?
Johnny deluca
more like Johnny Delusional
Johnny Damon?
Jake Mangum by year end.
Another ex-Met…
Bader’s a FA. Should come cheaper than he was last year. I’m joking, though. Rays will dig out someone even cheaper and he’ll play well.
Trades maybe how they will fill the spot. Robles? Taveras? Those would be interesting somewhat.
No one until March. Plenty of time to find someone.
A mess till Chandler simpson is ready
Mangum by the looks of it. It’s about time the Rays gave him a trial. Neglected him for too long.
Simpson is Juan Pierre 2.0 (hopefully), he’ll be up by years end.
Alexa – how many games will the Mets win in 2025?
Siri – I’m Siri, not Alexa
“How many games”…Word on the street is that Jake Paul’s next fight will be against either Amazon’s “Alexa” or Apple’s “Siri”. It most likely depends on which has the more glass-like jaw.
Never trade with the Rays. They’ll fleece you every time.
Willy Adames?
Blake Snell?
Blake Snell and Wily Adames are nothing too great. Snell can barely get 150 innings under his belt each season
The biggest troll indeed.
That’s what they call me but I’ve never been a big fan of Snell.
Failed prospect. Cant fleece when you are dumping trash.
Overstated, especially recently. Some trades they fleece and others they get fleeced. Especially recently the returns have been very average
“Hey Siri…”
Glad to see they have a back up plan for when they don’t sign Soto.
Jose Siri in the Mets outfield? OK, I can kind of see it because it would allow a Plan B in case Soto doesn’t go to Queens.. Could the Rays do something with this guy Orze? They’ve developed lots of good relievers before (Uceta, Fairbanks, etc.).
Not a very good plan
More like if Soto does go to Queens, they’ll need someone who can shrink the amount of the field that Soto has to cover.
Someone must start a rumor that Siri is Juan Soto’s best friend.
So much talent, so little ability to harness it.
He’s entering his age 30 season. At this point, he is what he is.
I guess Siri is the Bader replacement? Cheaper. Probably prefer Bader though.
Rays, please now acquire Jake Meyers from Houston to play CF.
We will love you forever, signed..Houston fans.
P.S. sorry about the trop, but it’ll be cool to see y’all play some outdoor home games for once.
Another excellent trade by Stearns
On field implications aside, I do not like this as a Mets fan. Jose Siri may be my least favorite active player.
Now this has to get Juan Soto’s attention!!
Seriously, Mets are and always have been a clown organization.
Not that this is signaling anything, but I have been wondering if the Rays might blow up their current roster with the news they are likely to be playing in a spring training stadium for this (and possibly 3 more seasons). They’ve always been willing to trade anyone and everyone, and they’re really good at getting back more value than just about any other organization for their talent.
How could they blow up? What long term contracts do they have? How many arb 2 3 players they have? What stars do they have that are putting people in seats?
Rays just want a new stadium. Don’t think they care where they get it from. They traded everyone that any other team wanted during the summer. Not much else they could do. Blow up already happened. Might dump their 1b who is expensive in their eyes but he isn’t valuable enough to move the needle.
Diaz, Brandon Lowe, Jeffrey Springs, Zach Littell, Drew Rasmussen are all possible trade candidates who all have some value. Wasn’t expecting a Siri trade but happy nonetheless
Pete Fairbanks is good
Erik Neander doing everything he can to match fan demand and that 11k capacity.
No one is paying to see Siri or any Ray’s guys really. It’s a few rays fans who will watch whatever product and other teams fans.
Siri is cooked. Bad trade for the Mutts.
Interesting pick up. Does Sterns think he can fix Siri so that he doesn’t swing at every pitch within a foot off the plate? The defense is great but I don’t see the fit.
Houston Tampa doesn’t know who to develop players? Maybe NY sees something they missed. Doubtful though.
orzo orze will turn into a quality reliever just watch
A for Rays. Reliever has the stuff just needs control. Speaking of control has lots of team control. Siri is glove only and now arbitration. Perfect guy for rays to trade.
C for Mets. They couldn’t develop the reliever so time to give up. Just there is glove only CF that won’t cost much and no player needed to be traded. It’s a win win trade. Both teams just exchanged their trash. Just the reliever has much more upside. Siri is what he is most likely. But Orze could be the setup man for the Rays with a lil tinkering.
While I like Siri and think he has enormous potential to be a Curtis Granderson type of player, he is just too flashy and seems like his head isn’t in the game at times. Couple that with the low batting average, and I’m glad to have the chance to roll the dice on Lowe, DeLuca, or someone else. Go take your showboating and low batting average to the Mets and have them worry about you dropping a flyball because you showboat and try to catch it with one hand and have them deal with his attitude and .220 batting average. He could turn into a star, but I just don’t think he will listen to coaches and will keep trying to showboat, flip bats, and be like Rougnad Odor, Jose Bautista, Fernando Tatis, Manny Machado, and the like. You can read between the lines and figure out what I’m saying
I mean with a career 89 OPS+, he’s a good gamble. If he performs exactly to that level while playing excellent defense, the Mets have a cheap Harrison Bader replacement (whose OPS+ is 90 but has been below that the last three years).
If he squeezes out some extra offense like he did two years ago, you have a very nice spare player at the bottom of your lineup.
If he regresses, his contract will be miniscule and the Mets will eat it with little to no consequence. Not a lot of downside for the Mets with Siri.
Orze has always been “interesting” but hasn’t consistently put it together. If Tampa can coax it out of him, good for them. If the Mets signed Eric Orze everyone would talk about how he sucks and Stearns is an idiot so for me he’s no loss, LOL.
Let’s look at some data regarding Siri:
Age: 29
Defense:
* 2022, 2023, 2024 defensive data: 12.5, 8.6, 12.7 FG defensive runs saved.
* Statcast Fieldruns value: 98 out of 100. Range: 99. Arm value 63 though arm strength 99
* Success rate added: 3rd in MLB
* Runs prevented based on only 364 PAs: 4th in the league.
From May 1st on, Siri was probably the single best defender in the league.
Running:
* Sprint speed: 99
Batter:
xwOBA: 2023, 2024: 17, 26
Steamer predictions:
wRC+: 86
My only question is: how will fans and teammates handle his behavior since he isn’t a robot? He cheers for his teammates but pouts. Sometimes, he doesn’t concentrate. Will Mets fans recognize the fact that when he tracks down a ball that nearly all other fielders couldn’t get to, will he receive credit?
Hey Siri, are you friends with Alexa?
“I’m a big fan of good listeners and helpful beings.”
Perfect marte or bader replacement!!!!!
Not sure what you mean. Marte is a Met and Bader isn’t.
Well, Marte only averages 85 games a year now…so in a way kinda true.
Right, so Taylor would be the perfect Marte replacement & Bader would likely be the perfect replacement for someone on a different team.
Giggity
Hey Siri, try not to strike out and get on base.
Siri is basically replacing Bader. 20HR a year and above average defense is pretty good for a fifth outfielder that can play Center. I hope the Mets hitting staff can get his batting average around that .230 mark
Wow this is a lot of ink spilled over two has-been’s, ne’er-do-wells, flotsam and jetsam. I do believe the MLBTR user base is hungry for some hot stove league fireworks. This was more like a half-dud bottle rocket going off but it got everyone excited.
This is such a Rays deal. Get rid of a player who kinda stinks but people overvalue and is owed some cash and get a guy in return that has some potential that no other team can unlock, but the rays will somehow find a way. Then when they trade that guy later, that unlocked potential will magically disappear yet again. lol. I don’t really love this for the Mets. I get it, cheap backup outfielder with experience and some pop. So it’s not terrible. But you gave up a controllable projectable ish pitcher that had options left that certainly you have added value to your team or perhaps in a better trade package. And poor hitter outfielders with pop our a dime a dozen … u can find those anywhere for cheap..
People overvalue one of the best CFers in the game who puts up close to 3 WAR pro rated to a full season while his arb award is a little over 2m?
Good deal for NY. Mets get a cheaper Bader replacement with potentially more potential (that’s a thing I said…) for a RP who may or may not work out. Tampa does well with pitchers, but I’d rather have the hitter with great D and a power/speed threat even if he isn’t a great hitter overall yet.
Honestly one of my fav players right now, he just doesn’t give a single f**** what other people say about him.
I could care less about his statline, I love the way he pimps homers, makes all the old heads mad.
Rays know they have a great outfielder farm system in St. Louis.
decent player but i’d rather have fred alexa
Siri’s put up 5.2 bWAR in 1186 career PA.
That’s 2.85 WAR over a season of 650 PA. (2.80 if you toss his terrific 49 PA in 2021.) He’s exactly the kind of player the Mets, assuming a payroll under $350 million and serous postseason aspirations, should ink into CF and just let him play while shrugging off questions about his bat, splitting his time with Taylor as needed. An upgrade on 2.85 WAR at age 29 with 3 years of team control will run you at something like 4/64m in free agency.
Do that, get a good hitting RFer, and build a pitching staff.
You’ll also have the best defensive OF in the game in the final innings when you bring Taylor in: Nimmo, Siri, Taylor. Let the yahoos whine about his hitting. Your won-loss record doesn’t care whether the wins come on offense or defense.
Mendoza can spend the offseason practicing the nice version of: “Yeah, we know he can’t hit. Next question!”
Using data in your argument. Is that allowed on MLBTR? I suspect RFO knows they are going to be going backwards overall at the CF position. The hope is that DeLuca, who is an outstanding fielder, hits as well as Siri did last year, which DeLuca did not.