The Mets and Rays announced a one-for-one trade sending outfielder Jose Siri to New York for reliever Eric Orze. Both players were on their teams’ 40-man roster, so the trade doesn’t have any impact on tonight’s Rule 5 protection deadline.
Siri, 29, spent two and a half seasons in Tampa Bay. The Rays acquired him from the Astros in a three-team trade at the 2022 deadline. Siri has been Kevin Cash’s primary center fielder going back to the start of the ’23 season. He connected on 25 home runs in only 364 plate appearances that year. While the power was enough to make Siri a productive player, he hit .222 with a .267 on-base percentage.
Those already poor marks fell even further in 2024. Siri hit .187/.255/.366 in a career-high 448 plate appearances. He popped another 18 homers but ranked last in OBP among the 207 hitters with at least 400 trips to the plate. Only Mitch Garver had a lower batting average. Since the start of the ’23 season, Siri owns a .203/.260/.424 batting line.
An extreme free swinger, Siri has issues making contact against pitches both within and outside the zone. He went down on strikes at a massive 37.9% rate this year and has fanned in nearly 36% of his career plate appearances. Siri strikes out far too often to be a consistently effective hitter, but he has 20+ homer potential at the bottom of a lineup.
More importantly, Siri has elite athleticism that makes him one of the best defensive players in baseball. He’s a top-of-the-scale runner with elite arm strength. Siri has posted excellent numbers for his glovework in center field. Defensive Runs Saved credited him as 12 runs above average in a little over 1000 innings this past season. Statcast was even more bullish, rating him 15 runs above par. By measure of Statcast’s Outs Above Average, Siri was tied for second with Cardinals rookie Michael Siani among outfielders in defensive value. Only Washington’s Jacob Young narrowly surpassed him. Brenton Doyle and Daulton Varsho are the only outfielders with more Outs Above Average since the start of 2023.
Siri probably slots behind Tyrone Taylor on New York’s center field depth chart. Both players are right-handed hitters, so they don’t make for a natural platoon. Taylor has much better contact skills than Siri brings to the table. He’s coming off a solid .248/.299/.401 showing in his first year as a Met.
There are clear parallels between Siri and Harrison Bader, to whom the Mets gave 437 plate appearances this year. They’re each fantastic defensive outfielders with some power but subpar on-base skills. Bader is again a free agent after playing on a $10.5MM deal. Siri is much more affordable. He’s in his first of three arbitration seasons and is projected for a $2.3MM salary (courtesy of MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz). If the Mets again find themselves in the top tier of luxury tax penalization, they’ll pay roughly $2.53MM in taxes on top of that salary. They control him through the 2027 campaign.
While Siri remained affordable, the Rays were evidently prepared to move on because of his lackluster offense. Their only other player who got an extended look in center field this year was Jonny DeLuca. Acquired from the Dodgers in the Tyler Glasnow trade, DeLuca hit just .217/.278/.331 in his first extended MLB look. He’s nearly as fast as Siri and could be a plus defensive center fielder in his own right, but he doesn’t bring much offensive juice.
While Dylan Carlson once looked like a potential everyday center fielder in St. Louis, his bat has never developed as hoped. Josh Lowe is probably better suited in a corner, though he could theoretically move back to center if the Rays add another bat or want to play Christopher Morel and Richie Palacios in the corner outfield on a regular basis.
As they look to sort out center field, the Rays add to their bullpen depth. Orze, 27, was a fifth-round pick in the shortened 2020 draft. His only big league experience consists of two games for the Mets in July. He was blown up in that limited look, surrendering four runs in 1 2/3 innings.
The 6’4″ righty had a solid year at Triple-A Syracuse. He tossed 61 2/3 innings of 2.92 ERA ball, striking out nearly a third of opponents behind an excellent 15.4% swinging strike rate. Orze walked more than 12% of batters faced and has struggled with his command throughout his pro career. That could relegate him to a middle relief role. Orze uses his changeup as his primary pitch and sits in the 93-94 MPH range with his fastball. He barely has any major league service and can be optioned for another two seasons, so he’ll likely bounce between Tampa Bay and Triple-A Durham on multiple occasions over the next couple years.
Anthony DiComo of MLB.com first reported the terms of the trade. Images courtesy of USA Today Sports.
Blackpink in the area
Siri is a decent player. Why would the Rays do this? Certainly like the deal for the Mets.
MeowMeow
Siri’s arb eligible this offseason, with his salary projected around 2.3mil (per the MLBTR arb estimates), whereas Orze only has 1.2 IP in the majors so far.
just_thinkin
bingo ^
DarrenDreifortsContract
So they gave up the better player just to have control of a worse player longer? lol
MeowMeow
I think it’s more about the money. It’s about a $1.5mil savings for them. I’m not weighing on on whether this is a “good” trade for them, but that money is certainly the main motivator.
Superstar Prospect Wander Javier
DeLuca gives them the exact same production for a third of the cost and Orze has an outlier changeup and the Rays covet outlier pitches. Its a great deal for both teams.
Metsies
Up for arbitration over the next few years so he’s due for a raise over that time. Chump change for the Mets for his D and production but Rays will look elsewhere and save a few bucks
Blackpink in the area
Siri is a 2 win player making barely anything.
lucas0622
He’s a 2win player but those two wins are coming from defense and baserunning. Hes among the worst hitters in the league.
For a team like the Rays who consistently find guys who can play out of nowhere, they’d probably have no issue replacing him
Lanidrac
If his offense doesn’t rebound, he’s no longer a 2-win player.
Blackpink in the area
He was a 2 win player batting 187 last year
Patriot12992
You cannot be a two win player with a .187/.255/.366 slash. The stat is broken as it applies to Siri. And I love speed and defense but that is just abysmal.
TheMan 3
due a raise for what?
I remember a time years ago when a .184 batting average got you either released or sent to the minors
Russell Branyan
Yup, 184 average used to get you released, but today people realize last year’s batting average is way down the list of what predicts a players value next year.
His speed, power, and defense give him a very high floor. You could do much worse for a 4th OF
Metsies
Arbitration is more about service time than performance. Sure, performance matters but when you cross in to arbitration years a player’s salary goes up. This is why guys get non-tendered (when a team parts ways during the arbitration period). Since this is Siri’s first year the raise is minimal. If Siri has the same line in a year or two he would be a candidate to be non-tendered
Lanidrac
More like a 5th OF. Even a lot of 4th OFers can hit significantly better with at least decent gloves.
theonlydynasty
Terrible deal for the Mets. If Tampa wants your pitcher, he’s better than you think.
mlb fan
“He’s better than you think”…I tend to agree to a point, but I’m quite confident in PoBo David Stearns.
He’s not exactly a first or 2nd year rube, like the guy in Boston, who traded a Cy Young winner for a questionable, injury prone SS.
The biggest tr0ll
In his defense, Chris Sale was injured the past three years and we have a SS not coming off the books for years
mlb fan
“Chris Sale was injured”…All is well and I understand the Red Sox are considering restoring Craig Breslow’s phone privileges any day now.
The biggest tr0ll
I don’t think it was a bad idea at the beginning… I bet I could find others who agree. How the deal unfolded, however, was one sided.
We weren’t going to sign Sale beyond last year though, so our best hope is Grissom starts to play and hit like he did the last month or so of the season.
Looks bad for the Sox but too early to write it off, and with Sale basically a walking injury, it made sense up front
GoGreen
But the guy who traded a Cy young caliber closer for 1 inning of a former Cy young starter probably had a hand in facilitating some of this trade as well, since the guy is now in Tampa Bay.
I would temper your expectations of starting pitchers coming out of or going into Tampa Bay until the executive senior advisor can prove himself. I’ve never seen that guy draft and develop a pitcher, I’ve only seen him trade for half a season of Cliff Lee.
Patriot12992
No one was saying this at the time, everyone questioned the deal from the Braves perspective.
Miken31
I trust David Stearns
Lindor's Bodyguard
I can live with whatever Eric Orze becomes. I’m a heeeuuuuuge risk taker.
RobM
Orze, reliever of the year in 2025.
metsin4
I think Stearns has pretty good pedigree of judging pitchers.
fljay73
Mixed bag on Siri as a Rays fan. Plus defender. Has speed. Doesn’t use his speed offensively. To many games his Offense is nonexistent.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
The dude is cocky as hell too for somebody who hits .187
sfuchs3 2
Siri is fun and dramatic roaming CF…but abysmal at the plate…
With RISP he hit .146, striking out 49x in 103 AB’s…..for example, with a runner on second and 0 outs moved the runner only 32% of the time…..of 274 baserunners on while at bat, only 30 scored., 11% driven in….WAAAAAY
too many unproductive at bats
YourDreamGM
Easy win for Rays. Mets won as well just not as big. Glove no bat is easy and cheap to get. Ideally you want some bat though. This reliever is backend if Rays can improve control. They wouldn’t trade for him if they didn’t think they could.
twozero6ix
Great defender, annoying player. Guess they needed someone to patrol that ocean sized OF
Pete'sView
Siri is the proverbial 3 outcome player with a bat. A marginal deal however one rates it.
braves25
Except he doesn’t walk….
9/11ths
The third outcome is defense. For the other team.
ChipperChop
The 3 outcomes are strike 1, strike 2 and strike 3.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
His play is as annoying as his annoyingness
Of course with that attitude he only tries to hit home runs and strikes out a gazillion times
He’s the most hated player since aj pierzynski
tigers182
Sorry Mets fans, every the tv mentions this guy, your Apple devices are gonna go off
just_thinkin
STOVE IS HOT
D2323
Cheap Bader replacement as defensive sub and pinch runner, but if this guy is starting significant games with his toothpick bat something has gone wrong.
Brian Cashman Fan
I’m just not sure why they need TWO defense-first outfielders between him and Taylor, and Bader and Taylor last year.
Lindor's Bodyguard
Nobody on the Mets plays right field like Tyrone Taylor. Marte is half of a DH platoon because he’s terrible in the field other than the cannon arm.
stymeedone
I take issue with Taylor’s season being described as “solid”. I’d call it more as “passable”.
rct
Taylor’s defense is excellent. He was 4th in the league in DRS despite only playing 361 innings there.
depletion
So “passable” as in “soft” or “really liquid”? Ideally “solid” should be “passable” as well.
mlb fan
“TWO defense-first”…Bader’s as good as gone with this move. It might have been Taylor, except he’s significantly cheaper and just as useful as Bader.
This one belongs to the Reds
I remember Brandon Phillips following him around in spring training asking him questions.
GO1962
Siri says that if a team cannot obtain a player with a 4 letter last name like Soto, then the next best thing is to obtain Siri.
Lindor's Bodyguard
Nido.
Brian Cashman Fan
Stuff+ seems to absolutely love Ovez’s slider and especially changeup. Siri seems a bit redundant on the Mets’ roster since he’s defense-first and they already have Taylor for two more years.
YankeesBleacherCreature
No need for Soto now, amirite?
HatlessPete
Lol clearly. Right field is already occupied by the almighty Starling Marte. Every fan in attendance gets a bonus ticket to the gun show baby!
bucsfan0004
Where’s the needle emoji on here?
metsin4
Why? Would you prefer he play in Boston?
YankeesBleacherCreature
My biggest fear is always the mystery team.
metsin4
I think every team besides the Yankees and Mets are just laughing and jacking his price up. I think he should stay in the Bronx but Cohen got a taste this year and will not be outbid.
Armaments216
Rays are clearing a spot in the OF
YankeesBleacherCreature
Stearns may disagree but an extra $50M-$75M is meaningless to Cohen.
hiflew
Kind of brings to mind Juan Lagares, the old Mets outfielder that could catch anything, but not hit anything.
Bill M
Lagares was a better hitter than Siri, although not by much
ccahoe02
had nice numbers in AAA last year. Never seen the guy pitch, anyone have any insight?
YourDreamGM
Awful numbers in AAA last year and year before. That’s why he is being traded.
Stuff is easy plus though so see if Rays can teach him how to pitch.
JaysonMMM
Never trade w/ the Rays. Especially pitching.
YourDreamGM
It’s either trade this guy or dfa him. Who cares who you trade him to. Take the best return you can get.
just_thinkin
Seems like Tampa won this one. Siri is easily replaced with a defense-first CF and Orze had big K numbers in AAA.
ExileInLA 2
Oh, well, if Orze had big K #s in AAA, why bother voting for Cy Young 2025? Inscribe his name on it now!
It’s at best a 26th man trade…
depletion
Orze was on his 3rd year at AAA this season. His first two were terrible. There are always some late-bloomers around, but most likely Orze is the last guy in your bullpen if you have a bad bullpen.
MrMet62
Yuck!
The guy is a clueless jerk
ccahoe02
as a rays fan Siri is great out their in CF but my god is he annoying. Don’t think the guy has ever hit a slider away either
This one belongs to the Reds
I just had horrible flashbacks with that last part.
ccahoe02
there* . I’m embarrassed.
johncoltrane
I was hoping a different outfielder with the initials J.S. Would end up in a met uni
mlb fan
“A different outfielder”…Well, if the Mets do land Soto, it certainly makes sense to add additional defense in the OF.
ClevelandSteelEngines
Who plays CF for Tampa Bay now?
TampaBayRays85
Johnny deluca
ClevelandSteelEngines
more like Johnny Delusional
EndorsedByFredMcGriff
Jake Mangum by year end.
ExileInLA 2
Another ex-Met…
rct
Bader’s a FA. Should come cheaper than he was last year. I’m joking, though. Rays will dig out someone even cheaper and he’ll play well.
ClevelandSteelEngines
Trades maybe how they will fill the spot. Robles? Taveras? Those would be interesting somewhat.
hiflew
No one until March. Plenty of time to find someone.
Citizen1
Alexa – how many games will the Mets win in 2025?
Siri – I’m Siri, not Alexa
mlb fan
“How many games”…Word on the street is that Jake Paul’s next fight will be against either Amazon’s “Alexa” or Apple’s “Siri”. It most likely depends on which has the more glass-like jaw.
Outfieldflyrule??
Never trade with the Rays. They’ll fleece you every time.
Lindor's Bodyguard
Willy Adames?
Lindor's Bodyguard
Blake Snell?
The biggest tr0ll
Blake Snell and Wily Adames are nothing too great. Snell can barely get 150 innings under his belt each season
Lindor's Bodyguard
The biggest troll indeed.
YourDreamGM
Failed prospect. Cant fleece when you are dumping trash.
Mondesi’s Cannon
“Hey Siri…”
Rupert
Glad to see they have a back up plan for when they don’t sign Soto.
DCDude2007
Jose Siri in the Mets outfield? OK, I can kind of see it because it would allow a Plan B in case Soto doesn’t go to Queens.. Could the Rays do something with this guy Orze? They’ve developed lots of good relievers before (Uceta, Fairbanks, etc.).
YourDreamGM
Not a very good plan
brickhaus
More like if Soto does go to Queens, they’ll need someone who can shrink the amount of the field that Soto has to cover.
El Kabong
Someone must start a rumor that Siri is Juan Soto’s best friend.
alwaysgo4two
So much talent, so little ability to harness it.
El Kabong
He’s entering his age 30 season. At this point, he is what he is.
RobM
I guess Siri is the Bader replacement? Cheaper. Probably prefer Bader though.
ChazzyB
Rays, please now acquire Jake Meyers from Houston to play CF.
We will love you forever, signed..Houston fans.
P.S. sorry about the trop, but it’ll be cool to see y’all play some outdoor home games for once.
The McNasty1
Another excellent trade by Stearns
jesseglaubitz
On field implications aside, I do not like this as a Mets fan. Jose Siri may be my least favorite active player.
DrDick
Now this has to get Juan Soto’s attention!!
Seriously, Mets are and always have been a clown organization.
bojacksonship
Not that this is signaling anything, but I have been wondering if the Rays might blow up their current roster with the news they are likely to be playing in a spring training stadium for this (and possibly 3 more seasons). They’ve always been willing to trade anyone and everyone, and they’re really good at getting back more value than just about any other organization for their talent.
YourDreamGM
How could they blow up? What long term contracts do they have? How many arb 2 3 players they have? What stars do they have that are putting people in seats?
Rays just want a new stadium. Don’t think they care where they get it from. They traded everyone that any other team wanted during the summer. Not much else they could do. Blow up already happened.
cheapseater
Erik Neander doing everything he can to match fan demand and that 11k capacity.
Old York
Siri is cooked. Bad trade for the Mutts.
Baseballisthebest
Interesting pick up. Does Sterns think he can fix Siri so that he doesn’t swing at every pitch within a foot off the plate? The defense is great but I don’t see the fit.
numberoneslayerfan
orzo orze will turn into a quality reliever just watch
YourDreamGM
A for Rays. Reliever has the stuff just needs control. Speaking of control has lots of team control. Siri is glove only and now arbitration. Perfect guy for rays to trade.
C for Mets. They couldn’t develop the reliever so time to give up. Just there is glove only CF that won’t cost much and no player needed to be traded. It’s a win win trade. Both teams just exchanged their trash. Just the reliever has much more upside. Siri is what he is most likely. But Orze could be the setup man for the Rays with a lil tinkering.