Mariners general manager Justin Hollander already confirmed earlier in the offseason that the club has discussed a potential reunion with Justin Turner, and they’re also weighing a reunion with another former Mariner. Adam Jude of the Seattle Times reports that the M’s have spoken to free agent first baseman Carlos Santana, who spent part of the 2022 season in Seattle. Jude cites multiple sources in adding that interest in bringing one of the two back to Seattle is strong enough that it’s considered a “likelihood” the Mariners will close a deal with one of them.
Santana, 39 in April, is fresh off his best year since 2019. He spent the 2024 campaign in Minnesota, serving as the Twins’ everyday first baseman and winning a Gold Glove for his defensive efforts there. He also slashed .238/.328/.420 with 23 homers in 594 plate appearances. That’s good for a solid 114 wRC+ (indicating he was 14% better than league-average at the plate), but setting aside a catastrophically poor first three weeks of the season, Santana hit .253/.342/.460 (129 wRC+, or 29% better than average) after connecting on his first homer in late April.
That type of production would appeal to just about any club, particularly when coupled with excellent defensive and a stellar clubhouse reputation. That latter factor is also a key part of the Mariners’ interest in both Turner and Santana, per Jude. At the end of the season, president of baseball operations Jerry Dipoto voiced a desire to add some veteran voices to help lead a young clubhouse, Jude writes, specifically name-dropping both Turner and Santana as examples of players who’ve played key leadership roles during partial seasons in Seattle.
There are other reasons to think both players fit the Mariners’ roster. Both Turner (17.6%) and Santana (16.7%) struck out well below the 22.6% league average in 2024. The Mariners’ collective 26.8% strikeout rate was the worst in MLB. Whittling that number down should be a priority, and either veteran first baseman would help the club take strides toward that end.
Both Turner and Santana are also natural fits to pair up with Luke Raley at first base. Turner’s right-handed bat makes him a logical platoon partner at first, and he hits righties enough to take DH at-bats even when Raley draws a start in the field. Santana’s glove probably would push Raley to a primary DH/corner outfield role, but the veteran switch-hitter is much better from the right side of the plate. For a Mariners club that hit only .213/.300/.363 against southpaws last year, Santana’s .286/.356/.578 slash against lefties has to look especially appealing.
Either Santana or Turner should be available on a one-year deal. Santana will surely command a raise on last year’s modest $5.25MM salary, whereas Turner could be in line for a cut from last year’s $13MM rate of pay. Again, for a Mariners club that’s expected to increase payroll, but perhaps not by leaps and bounds over the roughly $145MM mark at which they finished the 2024 campaign, that makes either veteran a logical target. RosterResource currently projects the Mariners for a $150MM payroll, though that figure could change in the next 36 hours based on non-tenders and/or potential trades of non-tender candidates.
The Mariners haven’t been shy about their desire to add infield bats this offseason. Dipoto and Hollander have voiced confidence in an outfield mix of Randy Arozarena, Julio Rodriguez, Victor Robles and Raley. They’re looking to add a bat capable of spending some time at first base and either a second baseman or third baseman — with Josh Rojas and Dylan Moore standing as candidates to platoon at the other spot. Turner or Santana would check one box and do so both affordably and while improving the club’s overall contact rate.
hoof hearted
Santana, turner…hey .lets get the good old boys back together and include seager
rickoppelt
Edgar and Griffey too!
maxmilna
Yeah and not make the playoffs again.
myaccount2
Turner played well for us and we need to address 1B. We know Alonso and Walker aren’t coming even if the money is right, so why not bring Turner back? He’s an effective professional hitter and he clearly isn’t scared of the ballpark.
kylegocougs
Probably rather have Santana but yeah I agree
Zippy the Pinhead
What’s Alvin Davis up to these days?
MysteryWhiteBoy13
Leave some old DH’s for the Jays. They’ll need to backfill their roster with some meh 40 year olds when they ultimately miss out on Soto
longdistancebrewer
tbf Santana’s not a DH, he still plays a decent 1B.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
I guess he could be the guy that moves Vlad to third base for a season, but a 40 year old Santana is the exact type of player I expect the Jays to sign
Goku the Knowledgable One
Wish the Pirates never got rid of him.
He wanted to stay and of course they dumped him to save like 2 mil
TheMan 3
I agree on all counts, Goku
When you prefer an obese, slower than molasses and player who only wanted $2 million dollars, it’s obvious that not bringing back Santana was about money
CravenMoorehead
“TheMan 3”
So edgy of you to criticize an established and talented Major League player’s fitness. I’m sure you’re an absolute physical specimen.
Rsox
DiPoto feels the team needs an old guy apparently
myaccount2
No, the team needs a competent 1B who isn’t afraid of the ballpark. Turner hit well after the trade so it makes a lot of sense to just bring him back since Alonso and Walker are pipe dreams.
WiffleBall
Они согласятся на потрепанного Риццо. Он может обеспечить хорошее ветеранское руководство, так что это не самая плохая идея. Но они ничего не добьются, ограничивая себя посредственными.
Butter Biscuits
This guy fits on a bunch of teams
McZesty
They need to keep 2B open for Cole Young so I like this idea. Now get a good hitting 3B and full out the bullpen
bus035
OMG! I’m so over this front office. No other organization loves retreads like the M’s.
I appreciate Santana and Turner but can’t we just once swing big in free agency with this amazing cost controlled pitching staff. Sorry for the pun.
myaccount2
What top FA hitter is coming to Seattle? Even if we bid the highest, why wouldn’t they sacrifice a few million to go to a big market, perennial winner with a more offensively-friendly ballpark? They M’s FO is operating knowing damn well Alonso and Walker aren’t attainable.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
Because as it turns out players like money. So if a team is offering more than everyone else, there’s a good chance they choose that team. See Robinson Cano
DarrenDreifortsContract
I think everyone but the Mariners knew that Cano’s power was due to the new Yankee stadium and of course the PEDS.
myaccount2
There are always exceptions, and Cano is an exception, not the rule. Trea Turner wasn’t even willing to hear the M’s pitch. Marcus Semien reportedly had no desire to play in Seattle. Other players have reportedly turned down more money to go elsewhere before. And on top of that, the M’s don’t have the resources to blow other teams’ offers out of the water.
slund24
Mariners had to offer Cano so much more than any other team. Thats the only way to get a FA to sign with them which is why they need to go through trades, prospects, and veteran FA.. Ohtani took $700 from Dodgers and probably would have demanded a billion from the Mariners.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
So you agree, if they offer more money than Alonso is probably an M
myaccount2
Are you suggesting it would be good practice to offer Alonso $200M when he’s probably topping out at $150M on his actual contract? I’m not opposed to the M’s signing Alonso, it’s not my money and he’s the best option, but I don’t want them to have to go way beyond market value.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
It’s good practice to offer the player you want more money than the other teams in the league.
Did you see me suggest a price or term, or is his just your way of being ignorant and creating an argument that no one but you made
myaccount2
No, I did not see you suggest a price or term, I suggested one as part of my argument to emphasize a point. You cited Cano while arguing that the best offer would sign Alonso. Cano got $240M when $175M reportedly was the next best offer. So, in my opinion, it’s valid to ask if you think it’s good practice to offer a deal to Alonso like the one I mentioned if it’s a scenario where they have to blow the next closer offer out of the water like with Cano.
mlb fan
“Sacrifice a few million..Alonso and Walker aren’t attainable”…Every team in MLB can “attain” players with the right financial offer and saying they can’t is the oldest excuse in the book.
Pro athletes and their player agents rarely “sacrifice a few million” dollars(only in extreme cases)to avoid playing somewhere and generally will take the highest offer.
Between trading, drafting and free agency, teams have a real shot at acquiring 90% of available players if they’re willing to spend the money.
The idea that the M’s couldn’t acquire Walker or Alonso if they wanted to is rather silly to me, but it does make for a nice, convenient excuse to do nothing every year.
myaccount2
@mlb fan- Can and “can” are two different things. Can they afford to sign Alonso? Yes. “Can” they afford to when factoring in the cost of winning a bid, what we know about how they operate, etc.? No. This isn’t a defense of Stanton, it’s a defense of Dipoto. I know what Stanton will do, which is refuse to increase payroll enough to allow the front office to take a huge swing. Alonso and Walker are pipe dreams. I will happily eat my words if he proves me wrong.
mlb fan
“Are two different things”…I don’t expect the M’s to sign either Alonso or Walker, but the idea they cannot afford to top other offers for them is pure fantasy. Neither player is pure “top of market”($200M+) in my honest opinion.
myaccount2
Yes, that’s exactly why I differentiated between can and “can.” Because I agree that the M’s could do it, especially with their profit margin; however, they won’t because they operate to their market size (kind of), which is what leads us to belive it’s pure fantasy, not that they couldn’t actually put the best offer out there that they really want.
WiffleBall
Я тоже закончил пользоваться платной услугой MLBTR «Front Office». Печально, что случилось с этим сайтом.
Slider_withcheese
Pretty much cut down Santana’s offensive numbers from Target Field to T-Mobile by 1/4
myaccount2
He had a 101 OPS+ with Seattle in 2022.
SODOMOJO
“Sigh”
HEY GREAT IDEA, JER BEAR
Almost like we should have just RESIGNED HIM LAST YEAR
Tom the ray fan
OYE COMO VA
WiffleBall
Все еще остается вопрос, почему Маринерс — команда, которая вот-вот должна побороться за место в плей-офф — не стали преследовать цели среди свободных агентов, особенно из Японии.
Braves Butt-Head
Because their owners are cheap.
WiffleBall
Видите ли, при коммунизме это не имело бы значения. Все команды играли бы на равных условиях, позволяя Маринерс бороться за таких звезд, как Джадж, Сото, Охтани и других.
King Floch
Either of the Baltimore Ryans (Mountcastle and O’Hearn) are likely available in trade.
Just saying 😉
buffalobob88
I remember the days when a .239 hitter was making league minimum, nowadays teams are willing to pay them 6m+
WiffleBall
Вот это аналитика, Сьюзен.
kylegocougs
Yeah but conversely a guy throwing 91 used to get 6 million for 30 starts now it’s a MiLB deal
Buff Barnacles
Last year I watched Turner hit a ground ball to Javier Baez. Turner country strolled to first base and Baez even asked him before he threw “Are you ok?” Turner replied “Ya Ya” waving his hand urging a throw to first
In a complete nutshell
THAT is Justin Turner
hllywdjff
2 40 year old platoon players World Series here we come!!
Acoss1331
Mariners couldn’t get enough of Santana’s riffs, and want those guitar solos back!
SchrodingersPoodle
Santana? Turner? Why not. And, we could bring back Robbie Cano. He maybe 41, but he’s mashing .431 in the Mexican League where apparently they pitch with beach balls. Besides, he’s likely still on our payroll.
Then replace the Gatorade in the dugout with Geritol.
Lindor's Bodyguard
Santana Turner Overdrive?
Can we please get a DH?
Both are an improvement over France/Ford from the past 2 seasons, but present limited ceilings. If the team is relying on either of them to be fulltime answers at 1B/DH, I think they’ll find it tough to surpass the 90 win mark for the first time since 2003.
However, as weakside platoon pairing for Raley/veteran bench bats either would fit well (Santana would be perfect as he crushed lefties).
Stevil
Shannon Drayer has been suggesting this since the offseason started, so new reports suggesting the same thing aren’t surprising.
I’d have no problem with Turner or Santana returning to Seattle. I’d have a problem with either player being the biggest acquisition of the offseason for Seattle.
hllywdjff
Santana and Turner as your 1b platoon (that will cover Polancos salary) Raley/Garver/Haniger as OF/dh platoon sign Torres for 2b and trade for Bohm…. So you’re only adding an extra 10 to 15 million dollars on your payroll
Stevil
That’s too many players for too few roster spots, bench or otherwise.
And the price would be a lot more more than 10-15m.
hllywdjff
Get rid of bliss rivas and rojas there are your 3 spots for Santana Bohm and Torres. A reliever on the 26 man roster would probably be traded for Bohm anyway we could use one less reliever and one more good bat
Stevil
Then you’d have Raley without a clear path to PAs and Haniger taking a spot while offering no defensive value, and Moore would be the lone utility player to cover 2B, SS, and 3B..
Torres makes no sense for Seattle. He’s going to earn 10-15m AAV, offers no defensive value, and hasn’t hit well in the pitcher-friendly AL West stadiums, most notably, T-Mobile Park.
Bliss and Rivas are already out of the picture. It’s questionable if they’ll pay Rojas. Haniger has to go. There just isn’t any argument to keep him,
johncoltrane
Oye Como Va
mickey_neil
I love Santana and JT, but what about the top 100, MLB ready first baseman you already have in the system for a lot cheaper? And focus that money elsewhere, like bullpen or 2nd base or even DH
Zippy the Pinhead
If I were Tyler Locklear, I’d be at Driveline every day, pissed off as hell. The spot would have been his if he’d shown he could even remotely hit.
beknighted
They’ve got to change their Evil Ways
dano62
Gambling that Santana can repeat even last year’s diminishing results – his April was abysmal- & just going with the familiar stinks of laziness, or cheapness. Walker is the best solution unless you go with a Bregman+Profar signing, putting Raley at first. Or trade Woo for Bohm – the pitcher’s ability to make 25 starts, even 20, remains a question mark.
SadMsFan
Face palm…I really hate Dipoto and Hollander…and the Mariners in general. Why? Just move on already. I know 2025 is going to be a bad season. But can we at least try to make logical and rational decisions?