The Dodgers continue to load up, as they’ve reached agreement with Blake Snell on a five-year contract. The deal, which is pending a physical, comes with a $182MM guarantee but reportedly includes around $60MM in deferrals that’ll reduce the net present value to the $160-165MM range. Snell, a client of the Boras Corporation, receives a $52MM signing bonus and limited no-trade protection, while the deal includes a $5MM assignment bonus in the event of a trade. The contract does not contain any opt-out provisions and covers Snell’s age 32-36 seasons.
It’s the offseason’s biggest move to date and represents a much quicker resolution than Snell’s previous trip to the market. The star southpaw was coming off a Cy Young campaign last winter. The long-term deal he sought didn’t materialize, leading to an extended free agent stay. Snell went unsigned into March before joining the Giants on a two-year deal that guaranteed him $62MM and, more importantly, allowed him to opt out after the first season.
Snell had a dismal start to the season. He allowed more than a run per inning over his first six appearances. He landed on the injured list twice in the first three months while battling groin discomfort. As recently as the middle of June, it looked like a near-lock that Snell would bypass the chance to return to free agency.
That all changed as soon as he returned from his second IL stint. By the end of the season, there was no doubt he’d pass on the remaining $30MM on his pact with San Francisco. Snell was the best pitcher in baseball down the stretch. Over his final 14 starts, he turned in a 1.23 earned run average while holding opponents to a .123/.211/.171 batting line that looked like a throwback to the days when pitchers hit.
Snell struck out more than 38% of batters faced over that run. He had five double-digit strikeout performances and fanned at least eight hitters in 10 outings. Snell had the best two-start run of his career right around the trade deadline. He struck out 15 over six scoreless innings against the Rockies on July 27 before no-hitting the Reds with 11 punchouts on August 2.
The overall numbers were still weighed down to some extent by his terrible first two months. He wrapped up the year with a 3.12 ERA and a 34.7% strikeout rate over 104 innings spanning 20 starts. That’s a strong season but didn’t earn him a single Cy Young vote. The overall platform year was less impressive than the 180 innings of 2.25 ERA ball he posted during his ’23 campaign in San Diego. Snell finished the season looking every bit as dominant as he’d been during his Cy Young years, though.
It seems the Dodgers are attributing the first two months to some combination of an abbreviated Spring Training and the injuries. While this year was the most extreme example, Snell has been a slow starter throughout his career. He has a 3.95 ERA and 28.4% strikeout rate in the first half of his nine big league seasons. The ERA plummets to 2.39 while he has raised his strikeout percentage above 32% after the All-Star Break.
The main knock has been his lack of consistent durability. Snell has reached the 180-inning threshold on two occasions — his 2018 Cy Young season with the Rays and his ’23 award-winning campaign. Outside those seasons, Snell has topped out in the 125-130 inning range.
That’s not a concern for the Dodgers, who have shown they’re far more interested in chasing upside than bulk. Los Angeles acquired and extended Tyler Glasnow last offseason even though he’d never topped 120 MLB innings in a season. The Dodgers will give Shohei Ohtani another chance to pitch coming off his second significant elbow surgery. They’re almost certainly going to reunite with Clayton Kershaw. They’ve graduated a number of talented pitchers from the farm system but seen a lot of them go down to injuries.
It’s an approach geared heavily toward the postseason. The Dodgers prioritize pitchers who profile as potential Game 1 starters. They’re very willing to assume injury risk while chasing that ceiling. That left them woefully short on starting pitching in 2023, resulting in a sweep at the hands of the Diamondbacks in the Division Series. The injuries mounted again this fall, but they had just enough in the form of Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Jack Flaherty and Walker Buehler to patch together an October rotation. With a star-studded lineup, that was sufficient to lift their second trophy in five years.
Snell arguably fits that mold as well as any pitcher in baseball. Among pitchers with at least 200 innings over the past two years, only Reynaldo López and Tarik Skubal have a lower ERA than his 2.57 mark. Snell’s 32.7% strikeout rate is second, trailing only Glasnow by a fraction of a percentage point. No one has a higher swinging strike rate.
The Dodgers have four pitchers who could start the first game of a playoff series. Snell, Ohtani, Yamamoto and Glasnow are each capable of providing ace-caliber production on a rate basis. It’s unlikely all four will be healthy come playoff time, but the Dodgers have no shortage of talented options behind them. Kershaw figures to be back in the rotation mix once he re-signs, while Tony Gonsolin, Dustin May and prospect Nick Frasso are returning from major surgeries. Bobby Miller is looking to rebound from a terrible sophomore season after turning in a 3.76 ERA across 22 starts as a rookie. Landon Knack and Justin Wrobleski are capable depth arms.
That’s before considering the possibility of further acquisitions. The Dodgers will surely make a push for NPB ace Roki Sasaki, who’d arguably be the fifth starter if he went to L.A. Even if Sasaki signs elsewhere, the Dodgers could pursue Garrett Crochet on the offseason trade market and/or continue adding starting pitching at the deadline.
Of course, the ability to stockpile this kind of rotation talent is a reflection of the Dodgers’ financial might. Even if other front offices share their general approach to valuing upside over durability, few ownership groups are willing to match L.A.’s spending. The Dodgers had generally shied away from pitching splashes under president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman, but that has changed over the past calendar year. This is their third nine-figure pitching investment since last offseason (fourth including Ohtani). They signed Yamamoto for $325MM and extended Glasnow on a deal that included $110MM in new money.
MLBTR ranked Snell as the #2 starting pitcher in the class and predicted a five-year, $160MM contract. The deal’s actual value lands right around there. The specific NPV won’t be clear until the deferral structure is revealed. The expected $32-33MM luxury tax hit indicates the deal will have a net present value in the $160-165MM range. That’d be the second-biggest luxury tax hit on L.A.’s books, trailing only the approximate $46.1MM CBT number on Ohtani’s heavily deferred $700MM contract.
In any case, the deal is likely to push the Dodgers’ competitive balance tax figure north of $300MM. They’ll almost certainly land in the fourth and final tier of penalization, which begins at $301MM. The Dodgers are subject to the highest tier of escalation penalties for paying the tax in at least three straight seasons. The Snell deal itself will cost the Dodgers something in the range of $25-30MM in taxes by vaulting them from the middle of the second penalization tier to the start of the highest tax bracket. Future spending will be taxed at the maximum 110% clip.
It’s a major commitment but one the Dodgers are well-positioned to make. They’re coming off the revenue bump associated with a World Series win. More importantly, the structure of Ohtani’s contract allows the Dodgers to continue stockpiling talent. While the Ohtani deal was not an end-around the luxury tax, there’s a huge benefit from a raw payroll perspective. Paying the NL MVP a $2MM salary for the next nine seasons is a big reason they’re able to continue taking on huge money in the short term.
Snell slotted alongside Corbin Burnes and ahead of Max Fried as the top starters in this year’s class. In addition to fitting the Dodgers’ general preference for high-ceiling arms, Snell came with the benefit of not costing draft compensation. He’s the only of the top three starters who wasn’t issued a qualifying offer. Snell had received the QO during his first free agent trip, so the Giants could not make the offer this time around. Burnes and Fried each rejected a qualifying offer and would’ve cost the Dodgers their second- and fifth-highest selections in the 2025 draft and $1MM from their ’26 bonus pool for international amateurs.
Burnes and Fried become the clear #1-2 options for the other teams seeking top-flight starting pitching. Mark Feinsand of MLB.com reported this evening that the Red Sox, Yankees and Orioles were also in the Snell bidding. They’ve all been tied to top-of-the-market starting pitchers — Boston especially — and should remain active on that front in the weeks to come.
MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand reported the Dodgers and Snell had a five-year deal, shortly after the pitcher revealed on Instagram that he was joining L.A. Jeff Passan and Jorge Castillo of ESPN first reported the $182MM guarantee. Fabian Ardaya of the Athletic reported that the deal contained deferrals that would drop the net present value to the $32-33MM range annually. Jack Harris of the Los Angeles Times was first with the $52MM signing bonus, while Feinsand had the limited no-trade protection. Jon Morosi of the MLB Network reported the absence of an opt-out clause. Jon Heyman of the New York Post first reported the presence of an assignment bonus, which Harris relayed at $5MM.
Image courtesy of USA Today Sports.
28rings
“Luxury Tax” Dodgers strike again
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Imagine they sign snell and Soto and sasaki
Joemo
Sasaki is basically free, he can only sign an IFA deal and will be subject to the arbitration process. So that one isn’t about just chucking money at him
Miken31
They’re not signing Soto.
Skyrider123
Soto just saw the Dodgers celebrate their World Series championship on Yankees turf. He knows how good that team can be for years. Why wouldn’t he want to be a part of that team? Everybody thinks he’s going to sign with the Yankees or the Mets. If there’s any other team that has the better chance of signing him it would be the Dodgers
rmullig2
He isn’t willing to defer money and the Dodgers aren’t going to pay the full cost of a 600M contract.
Miken31
For one he wants to be on the East Coast. Also, these things are cyclical. Yes the Dodgers won a championship last year, but that doesn’t give them the right to win every championship now. The Mets and Yankees were both amongst the final four and have a shot at the World Series as well. Not to mention Steve Cohen has more money than anyone. Just stating a fact there. Obviously, I don’t really know where Soto is going to go, but it’s extremely unlikely in my opinion that he will end up with the Dodgers.
Doral Silverthorn
@rmullig2
signed, Juan Soto?
tuck 2
Here’s a clue – Soto is changing teams but is not moving his residence
Joggin’George
Yes, there are basically four or five teams that will win the majority of WS from here out.
giantsphan12
@joggin, yep! The Dodgers,
The Yankees, Google and Meta. Nothing like some variety!
Smacky
He’s not leaving the East Coast.
lemonlyman
@Joggin’ that’s what they said 30 years ago and MLB has the best parity of any major American sports league.
Whiskey and leather balls
They’ll just throw a 400 mill signing bonus at him and take the hit in year one
l9ydodger
That would be the only road block to me.
The biggest tr0ll
I know we’ve had this debate but it’s one of those three: Yankees, Mets, or Dodgers. One of those three will sign Soto. I think Snell was plan B for the Yanks if they didn’t get Soto, so we will see how they pivot from that one
paddyo furnichuh
LAD don’t need another stud future HOFer LHB like Soto.
LAD did “need” another reliable elite SP
LAD have more of a need for Teoscar back or another solid RHB OF.
Please refer to the Lerner offer Soto turned down if you think he’d take going with a winner for less money in lieu of the most guaranteed money he can get.
His profile along with his agent (yes, also Snell’s -but clients can assert themselves) really looks like it’s Cohen paying record contract for Soto.
ghostofmookiebetts
lemonly pays attention.
Dodger Dog
You are right about everything here. My personal thoughts are the Mets probably blew their shot by not blowing Soto away with an offer. My thought is he ends up somewhere else in the east.
Dodger Dog
Accurate
Dodger Dog
I think the Phillies are quietly lurking
Pads Fans
His residence is in Coronado.
Pads Fans
CBT is based on AAV.
roob
Steve Adam’s just predicted in today’s chat that the Dodgers wouldn’t spend big on a free agent.
Don'tBeDumb
Dodger dog
There’s no way he waited all these years to NOT hear every offer this winter. What offer would’ve kept him from taking other meetings, a billion dollars?
Bart Harley Jarvis
Signing Snell, Soto, and Sasaki would be an all-time, amazing alliteration.
VonPurpleHayes
It would be splendidly stupendous.
Blue Baron
VonPurpleHayes: It would be something surprisingly spectacular solidly setting a standard for stupendous success.
Pads Fans
Still less than the $1 billion they spent last offseason.
DarrenDreifortsContract
We don’t want or need Soto.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Yeah, but he helps with the alliteration.
Doral Silverthorn
said no one ever
Blue Baron
DarrenDreifortsContract: We? What team’s roster are you on?
avenger65
This reminds me of the NY Cosmos of the North American Soccer League. They hoarded the best players in the world, like Franz Beckenbauer and Pele, and became so dominant the rest of the teams couldn’t come close to competing. The league folded after about two years, give or take MLB won’t fold, but it isn’t particularly healthy for the league for one team to have all of the cookies in the cookie jar.
Blue Baron
avenger65: They don’t.
lemonlyman
I’m a season ticket holder. Do you think people shell out tens of thousands of dollars for tickets without feeling a sense of identity with a team? I feel sad for you.
Wren
I agree but doesn’t seem like the FO sees it that way
Blue Baron
lemonlyman: That’s nice. But it’s still juvenile to refer to a team as “we” when you don’t actually play.
I had the privilege of meeting Keith Hernandez on a flight recently. He played 7 seasons with the Mets and has broadcast their games for 19.
In our conversation, even he referred to the Mets as “they.” That’s called being an adult.
Dodger Dog
The NL West and East are both going to be pretty competitive for a bit.
angelsfan1391
You know what’s juvenile? Someone getting their panties in a bunch over how someone else refers to the team they root for. Go back to your dungeon and stop being a troll.
Sayhay88
Don’t want to
padam
Deferred dollars is going to be interesting. This is going to be one hell of a staff now.
Joemo
They need to make the contracts cost the full amount ahaindt the luxury tax regardless of the deferrals. The massive increase in Ohtani’s tax value would prevent them from signing some of these players.
Kubanis427
Salty??
Joemo
No? Just telling it like it is. I would rather my team sign Burnes, Fried or Sasaki
YourDreamGM
Deferred $. Every team can do this. No reason to hate the Dodgers for being smarter than your team.
Joemo
My team has had contracts with deferred money so…. Good try?
The whole point of the luxury tax is to punish teams from spending too much. By decreasing the luxury tax hit from a defferal, you’re going against the whole point of the luxury tax. Might as well do away with the luxury tax at that point.
Yankee Clipper
Joemo: I don’t think your assessment is correct. All co tracts are evaluated the same way for the purpose of the luxury tax penalties, to my understanding: the total contract valuation divided by the years of the contract, thus providing a calculated AAV.
Now, with that said, it does save the LAD real mi eh they aren’t paying out which gets mandatorily put into an investment account and earns interest.
In short, there is a pecuniary benefit, but it’s nothing to do with the luxury tax.
Joemo
Yankee – look at the extreme example, Ohtani. His salary is 70MM yearly with 68MM deferred. This makes his luxury tax hit yearly at 46MM.
spotrac.com/mlb/player/_/id/24661/shohei-ohtani
If the full 70MM counted towards the luxury tax, they’d be paying an addition 24MM + whatever the penalty is for being over the tax.
Yankee Clipper
Yes, that’s true and from that perspective I understand what you’re saying. To clarify, I also wasn’t suggesting your opinion is flawed regarding the deferment of money, but it’s been allowed in MLB for several decades. I don’t think it’s a wise practice, but many teams have done it, just not to the extent of Ohtani’s deal.
You have a good point though – if they want to curb the deferment practice, penalizing teams at the rate agreed upon would certainly make an impact.
YourDreamGM
They are being punished. Just stretching out the punishment. Your team hasn’t done it enough. Not at LA level or you wouldn’t be complaining.
Blue Baron
Yankee Clipper: Which many teams also do. There aren’t separate rules for the Dodgers.
YourDreamGM
For the record I don’t care if they keep the current system or change it so you can defer $ at all or something in between. Just the dodgers are doing what every team agreed to be possible to do. Any team can and other have do this. Just nothing compared to LA who obviously has much more $ than most the teams.
JSC Cubbs
No, there is. Other teams can’t pay 300 million, even if they can avoid 20 million via tax dodging.
For this, we hate the team that corrupted the last CBA and bought a world series without paying the rest of us what they owe.
Yankee Clipper
Your Dream: I feel exactly the same way…. It’s not a matter of whether I like the deferments or not because it’s the system that’s in place and any team may use.
paddyo furnichuh
No, the CBT is to encourage a high level of competition across all teams each year and there are penalties to dissuade owners from going too far over the limits.
However, Ohtani is a unicorn with a unique international appeal that translates to LAD having a unicorn-like advantage in revenue over most if not all other teams in MLB.
Dodger Dog
Im actually surprised they still let teams defer money, as it makes a franchise way more difficult to sell if they have future payroll obligations that far out. Look at Washington, they haven’t been able to find a buyer mostly due to the deferrals in the strasburg and scherzer deals.
Bivouac-Sal
@Dodger Dog
Yeah who would want to buy the Dodgers?
Blue Baron
Joemo: Who are “they?” And there’s no rule being violated and no magic wand anyone can wave to change anything.
Joemo
It would probably need to be in the next CBA.
And it’s completely legal you’re right, but goes against the whole purpose of a luxury tax.
If you’re going to say hey you’re paying this person 35MM for the 2025 season, but their luxury tax hit is only 26MM due to the deferrals, you’re not actually punishing them for spending more money. Their luxury tax hit for 2025 should be 35MM.
YourDreamGM
Kicking the $ down the road it will eventually have to count. Eventually they will have to cut back on contract spending. That will be when Mookie Ohtani Freeman etc are non MVP level guys nearing the end. They are taking advantage of their studs when it makes the most sense to do so. It’s a smart completely legal move as you acknowledged. Easy to hate the Dodgers but you should be hating your stupid team for not doing it. Other than Nationals fans whose team has done it.
Blue Baron
Joemo: Whether any team should be punished for its spending is based on a socialist concept and highly debatable, which is why negotiations around it are so contentious.
JSC Cubbs
Manfred could change it. It is the commissioners obligation to protect the spirit of the competition. He has done it before when he did not allow the padres offer to Aaron Judge.
Different sport, but it’s the same as when the nfl banned the Holy Roller after it “didn’t break any rules”. It broke the spirit of the rules and must be changed.
No, the dodgers didn’t “cheat”.
Yes, they won a World Series, and that should be acknowledged.
How they bought that championship needs to be fixed.
And Ohtani must pay state and federal taxes on his 680 million he intends to leave America for, but that’s another issue..
Flyby
@yourdream
I agree it should eventually count but it doesnt in the end for tax purposes ohtani will only count for about 480M total where his contract with deferments is around 700M so the dodgers save about 220M probably closer to 450M if they are consistently hitting the taxes.
if they took 48M for each of his playing days and 22M for his deferred years i would agree with the way it is done.
YourDreamGM
I thought it all counted whether 2025 to 2035 or 2045 to 2055. Still don’t care. It’s legal. Every team can do it.
Same with cap. If I owned a flyover team or fan of one I would want a cap. If I was in a mega city I wouldn’t want a cap.
maxmilna
Crybabies crying again.
Wire to wire 2024
Sports are only fun if it’s competitive, go watch the globetrotters
paddyo furnichuh
Tell Bob Nutting… or even Crane or Ricketts
The latter two are owners of MLB teams of the 3rd and 4th most populous cities in the US. Yet they spend more like they love Nutting and despise Guggenheim, Cohen and Steinbrenner.
IsIt2025Already?
Weird how that seems to be fans over every team not in NY or LA!
Joggin’George
You think the same four teams dominating every year is good for the sport?
VegasMoved
What teams are you talking about? The 2 titles in 36 years Dodgers? The no titles in 15 years Yankees? The no titles in 38 years Mets?
Joggin’George
I’m talking about the FUTURE. Things have changed. Moving forward, a small handful of teams will dominate.
Joggin’George
Understand the point I’m making is based upon the CHANGES that seem to have suddenly occurred. The top teams are suddenly outspending the rest by a much wider margin than in the past.
Pizzaboy
They tend to dominate the regular season. Playoffs are a bit of a crapshoot
YourDreamGM
Not only spending more but spending wisely. Especially Dodgers.
towinagain
Why bother anymore.
towinagain
Go out and get Buehler Padres!
Well....shoot
And Sasaki!!
Pickle_Britches
Fans and merch sales makes up for it
Bivouac-Sal
merch sales are shared equally by all 30 teams
VegasSDfan
My only concern with Snell would be will he be healthy.
roob
Now, the Dodgers are just wasting money. They’re so loaded. Ridiculous overpay for a 5 inning pitcher who has thrown more than 129 innings only twice and he’s 31. This contract will not age well but the Dodgers don’t care.
vaderzim
Looks like someone didn’t want to wait until March this time.
thefallensoldier
Each of the Boras boys from last offseason sucked big time to start the season so maybe they finally wisened up to the importance of building up through the offseason with the team.
gravel
Matt Chapman did just fine.
roob
He’s not a pitcher.
Pads Fans
Snell was just given a $6 million raise over the AAV of his last deal. Boras got him a 20% raise over his last deal and did it one year later. $22 million more than this site predicted. He didn’t wisen up. He was just presented by the Dodgers with more money than anyone thought he would get.
Michol
They learned a lesson. No more demanding $300m contract, lol.
YourDreamGM
They all did fine. They negotiated poorly for long term deals. Had unrealistic expectations. Music stopped they were left without a chair. So they did the next best thing and took 2 or 3 year high aav deals. They either do well and get a huge pay day like Snell Chapman. Or don’t do that well or even stink like Bellinger Monty and use their player option. Good fall back.
Pads Fans
Snell never demanded a $300 million. The guy just got a $6 million raise over the AAV of his last deal and Boras got that for him one year later.
sean-11
Jesus Christ
no soup for you
Buddha
yeah, sure!
Me
9/11ths
@yeah, sure! I like your spirit! I shall consider it holy.
Sayhay88
Hare Krishna
mahalkita
My saviour. God in the flesh.
Old York
Amaterasu
9/11ths
David Fletcher
hiflew
Flying spaghetti monster.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Dark Lord Beelzebub.
Old York
@Bart Harley Jarvis
Honestly, my only true god is The Fightins guy.
9/11ths
Also gotta like Satan. I like their Samuel Alito’s Mom Abortion Clinic.
I even bought a lunch box!
Blue Baron
sean-11: Jesus saves. Moses invests.
9/11ths
Did 9/11ths autocorrect to Sean-11?
lol Sounds like a Chinese knock-off of Ben-10.
FatChance65
Imhotep
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
The Void
ghostofmookiebetts
Fat Chance wins
unpaidobserver
Imhotep was an architect…
RyÅnWKrol
Sauron
ghostofmookiebetts
SATAN
myaccount2
Had him around $150M. Curious to see what he gets.
“More to come…” before people start telling me the contract details ARE IN THE ARTICLE haha
mahalkita
182. the contract details ARE IN THE ARTICLE
Joemo
They update the articles
MattyC 2
182 plus a 52M signing bonus
YourDreamGM
Boo my2. Let the have their fun.
Ann Porkins
As a Giants fan, c’mon Dodgers… at least give us a month before crushing our spirits again
SFan
“Oh I want to stay with the Giants!”
gravel
“Good for the rivalry.”
DigglinDickers
Yikes 5 years
bhd360
Dodgers about to revolutionize the game with the 13 man rotation
myaccount2
13 starters is probably smart when 12 of them can’t stay healthy.
Big Poison
I’m shocked that he didn’t sign with a small market team. JK. Baseball’s financial structure is broken. Pro sports are all competitive but one. Just baseball.
myaccount2
16 different World Series winners this century. NFL has 15 different Super Bowl winners this century.
Harrison Butker's Mount Rushmore Worthy Speech
Hey just a heads up
Super Bowl has only been around 50 something years
A century is 100 years
16 out of 100 years is a lot smaller percentage than 15 / 57
Harrison Butker's Mount Rushmore Worthy Speech
Also there’s been 20 different Super Bowl winners
20 different winners out of 58 total super bowls
The NBA ABA merged was back in 1976 and there’s been 18 different winners since the merger
wreckage
He said this century, not in the last century.
DanzigInTheDark
Doesn’t take a lot of thought to realize OP is referring to the current century we started in 2000.
Harrison Butker's Mount Rushmore Worthy Speech
This century is from 1924 to 2024 which includes dates from pre merger times for both nba and nfl
sorayablue
“this century“
VegasMoved
He’s talking about the 21st century. As in, the last 23 years.
Harrison Butker's Mount Rushmore Worthy Speech
Obviously not since there’s been less winners not 15 since 2000
Out of 25 possible super bowls
Kc won 3
New England won 6
Tampa won 2
Ravens won 2
Rams won 2
Giants won 2
Steelers won 2
7 teams won 19 of 25 meaning 6 teams would need to win the other 6.
Macknoche
Glad some can read! Good job wreckage!
uberalec
You can’t really be this dumb, right?
Joggin’George
Generally century refers to “18th”, “21st” etc… not one hundred years ago.
Harrison Butker's Mount Rushmore Worthy Speech
1924 to 2024 is 100 years
There haven’t been 15 different Super Bowl winners since 2000
You all just believe everything you read on the internet and don’t check?
wreckage
Eagles, Packers, Colts, Broncos, Seahawks… So it’s just about there already. Maybe the OP missed by 1. But the point is there is parity in all leagues and there are far more than 15 winners in the last hundred years than 15. Cowboys, Redskins, 49ers in the 10 years prior to 2000. Then add teams like the Bears, and Raiders.
myaccount2
If you’re going to criticize me, please double check first. I said “this century” aka the 21st century, as in since 2000. Thanks.
myaccount2
That would not be the proper term. Centuries are counted from year 1 to year 99. You can refer to 1924-2024 as “a century” but not “this century.”
myaccount2
@wreckage- Yep, I counted the Rams twice. Their wins were far enough apart that I didn’t recognize I counted them both times. Thanks!
wreckage
This century is from 2000 til now, the last century is 1924 – now. There has been about 14 NFL teams to win this century, and about 25 to win it since it’s inception.
wreckage
@myaccount, Wasn’t 1 in st Louis anyways so it could technically be 2 different teams?
myaccount2
Yep, that was directed to Butker, but I appreciate you backing me up on this and agree with you haha
myaccount2
Uhh, that’s exactly what I meant… Lol great point, wreckage!
JScottG
Better to stay silent and make people wonder if you’re stupid then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Most of the class understood the this century reference that starts in 2000.
wreckage
It’s been 16 different MLB winners in the past 24 years. 23 if you are one of those that don’t count the dodgers shortened season. And only 5 current MLB franchises have not won a WS title meaning at least 25 teams have won in thr past 100 years, not including defunct teams.
myaccount2
And some are newer like the Expos/Nats and Rays who have gotten very close multiple times.
wreckage
We agree 100% @myaccount2. Anyone claiming there isn’t parity in championships is wrong. To say there isn’t parity in team salaries could be correct, but teams salaries don’t always equal championships. And there have been issues with team salaries for far longer than the past 24 years. Hence why the NHL had to address it in the 90s when teams like Detroit and the NYR bought enough of the top tier talent that the NHL had to hold out for a whole season plus to save teams like Winnipeg, Edmonton, Calgary, and Minnesota from collapsing and created opportunities for cities like Tampa, Carolina, Arizona, Columbus, ect to exist. MLB nearly contracted Minnesota and Montreal before revenue sharing got to this point. And it’s smaller market teams in the NFL be able to continually exist if not succeed.
wreckage
Rams won with 2 different teams so technically 2 different championships. One in St Louis and one in LA. Gets it to 15 in my eyes.
Chicken In Philly?
Learn your prepositions, bro. Killing me.
Astros_fan_in_Aus
Actually it started on 1st January 2001.
i like al conin
It’s not just about titles but length of competitive windows. No one can win it all every year. Most big market teams compete nearly every year, small and mid rebuild and retool. The system is broken.
ohyeadam
How many of those WS winning teams are in the bottom half of payroll? Two, Marlins and Royals? It’s basically the top 15 teams and them
VonPurpleHayes
It’s almost as if teams should spend more money.
YourDreamGM
10 years ago how many teams spent over 200 million? 15 years ago? 20? Small markets are about a third of the league they are all spending under 130m. Aren’t spending anymore than they did 5 to 10 years ago. You can’t compete with 200 300 million long term. You need to do everything perfect and get lucky short term. Only 1 small market team has win the world series this century. KC Royals. Marlins aren’t a good market but they where top half of payroll when they won. Famous for “buying” championship and selling off after. A few teams will dominate. Few will get their share. Few others here and there. But for small markets it will be a rare occurrence. Out of all of them they might win once every decade or two. They are due.
myaccount2
@DreamGM- So now we’re moving the goalposts and penalizing winners even of they were just top half spenders? Come on. 2005 White Sox and 2011 Cardinals weren’t top 10 when they won, Phillies in 2007 were either 13th or 14th in payroll depending on your source, 2002 Angels were 15th… my point is it is not completely dominated by large markets like everyone makes it out to be. Yes, it skews towards top half spenders just like the NFL skews towards teams with top 10 QBs.
wreckage
10 years ago a beer at a game was also only $9 (still grossly over priced) and a hot dog was $7. And a family could afford upper bowl tickets at least. At home you could buy groceries for a week for 2 people for under $100. And most pubs had 25c wings. Try finding any of that now.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
What do you mean the athletics aren’t on par with the Yankees?
Stop Giving Billionaires Money
Free market is competition. You guys want dodgers and Yankees fans money to go to the royals and reds. That’s not competition, that’s socialism
seamaholic 2
In the end though the Yankees and Dodgers depend on there being viable, competitive teams to play against, or there is no sport to charge people to watch.
i like al conin
It’s not a free market, there’s an imbalance in revenue streams impacting competition.
hiflew
It’s not socialism. They are all part of the same league. Each team is not a fully autocratic entity, they are all branches from the same trunk.
VonPurpleHayes
Baseball hasn’t had a dynasty in over a decade. We see a different winner every year.
Hawkeye75
7 straight LCS appearances and 2 championships is a dynasty. They called the 1990s Braves a dynasty and they only won once. Just sayin.
VonPurpleHayes
Fair. Fair. The Stros are a dynasty, but a tainted one.
uberalec
The Braves weren’t a dynasty, and neither are these Dodgers (yet) – they’ve won one full season title. Nor the Astros. The 90s Yankees, Bulls, Cowboys, Cornhuskers, 00s Patriots are dynasties, the current Chiefs probably as well.
VonPurpleHayes
That’s my take as well.
Led Hoyer
Except the dodgers.
hiflew
That’s just because the postseason is more about luck than dominance. Any team can win a series. Regular seasons in baseball determine dynasties, The Braves of the 90s were a dynasty even though they only won one title.
VonPurpleHayes
If that’s the case, then the 2007-2011 Phillies should be a dynasty, but no sane person would agree.
Yankee Clipper
Only 10 different NBA champions this century. And both the NBA/NFL have 32 teams v baseball’s 30. Baseball has the greatest parity among major professional sports.
In nurse follars
“I want mine” – Blake Snell.
“My wife is my rock” – Jim Thome signing with Phillies.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Underrated comment
RunDMC
Congrats to Blake’s great grandkids. They just got paid.
9/11ths
Bless up! The can afford surgery to not look like the squirrel from Ice Age.
cooperhill
Some woman is drunk enough to have beer goggles that thick?
9/11ths
chin pewbs bauer had a hot wiman motorboat his moobs. Snellio Kontos gets laid.
seamaholic 2
He’s already made $80m in his career.
johncoltrane
Do the dodgers still go after roki sasaki?
NickTheDev
Absolutely.
hiflew
Of course they do. They go after everyone because they are the richest.
Cam
All teams are rich. Not all teams are prepared to spend.
hiflew
Oh shut up. You know that is not true.
Joggin’George
Not all teams can afford the budget of the Dodgers. Don’t be ridiculous.
Stop Giving Billionaires Money
That’s because Dodger fans spend that on their team. None of these clubs are losing money. Even the A’s owner is part of a family worth multiple billions
Ashleyr
If the Dodgers are so rich, WHY do they have to defer money into the next century. They will owe 100 million per season from 2030 – 2050 and all the players will be retired. Deferrals will bankrupt baseball, but the fans don’t care. They want championships here and now and couldn’t care less about the fans of tomorrow.
DanzigInTheDark
MLB teams contribute ~48% of their local revenues to be split amongst the 30 clubs, a number that is estimated to be about $110M. In addition to that, they all receive an equal share of the national TV rights deal, which is an additional $90M.
So before selling a single ticket, hot dog, or parking spot, teams are generating $200M in revenue.
Every team could have easily signed this contract if they wanted to; arguing otherwise is just carrying water for billionaires that would rather pocket that revenue than put a superior product on the field.
Joggin’George
You are exhibiting typical fan ignorance of finance.
The TEAMS money is separate from an OWNERS money. Because an owner is a millionaire does not mean the TEAM is not financially struggling.
Joggin’George
Because deferred money is better for billionaires. They can invest the money today and MAKE money off it.
They put the money owed in an investment account, GENERATE INCOME, and then pay out later. It’s like borrowing interest free.
It’s GOOD for the team to defer money, now and in the long run. If anything, the PLAYER is losing out.
Cam
@hiflew – stick to being the troll and class clown around here. Getting angry and telling people to shut up isn’t as entertaining
BMOa
Dodger owner group invested the deferred money in the stock market. They have the cash to pay Ohtani, deferring allows them to build a team. In 9 years the invested from Othani’s deferment will be worth 1.4 billion.
hiflew
You weren’t supposed to be entertained, you were supposed to shut up. But apparently you can’t do that either.
thecrown24
The dodgers are the richest? No sir they are by far the richest. Steve Cohen is the richest owner in Baseball and it’s not even close
hiflew
I am not talking about which owner is the richest. I am talking about which TEAM is the richest. Owners do not generally spend their own money on payroll. Team revenue for teams like the Dodgers and Yankees is much higher than the rest. Until MLB implements some kind of REAL revenue sharing, it will always be that way.
seamaholic 2
I’m normally a pretty chill dude, but honestly, are you all really that dumb that you think an owner’s other wealth determines how big his team’s payroll is?
Also, you’re wrong on your own terms. The Dodgers are owned by a huge hedge fund. It could buy and own Steve Cohen many times over.
VegasMoved
Pursuing Roki has nothing to do with being rich.
johncoltrane
Ohtani, yamamoto, glasnow, Kershaw. may & gonsolin returning from injury. AND roki? Each pitcher will throw on 12 days rest
hiflew
Nope, they will go with 2 starters. Both go 4-5 innings and alternate which one goes first. That’ll cover 10 pitchers. You’ll have a regular closer and 2 mop up guys on the rare instance that one of their starters pitches poorly.
I say that in jest, but there will be people that insist it is a great idea and will revolutionize the game.
brocnessmonster
3-4 of those guys will be hurt at any given time. That’ll leave them with a bonkers 6-man rotation all season.
SoCalBrave
The Dodgers need to sign 11 SP to field a 6 man rotation
YourDreamGM
Dodgers should have 2 teams. AL NL. MLB wants expansion. Be like Raw Smackdown have a draft every year. It’s not fair they already have Freddy so can’t go after Pete and Walker.
Cambo
Should just let the Dodgers sign guys in November and December, then the rest of the teams can participate with what is left.
twozero6ix
SMH wack
BronxBombers23
Dodgers are doing Yankees things and the Yankees s***
Ryan W
The La Dollars
MatthewStairs
Over/under .5 cy young’s for Snell on the Dodgers
cooperhill
Over/under on being named the ugliest player in MLB? 100-1!
SoCalBrave
I’ll take the under.
Ryan W
Under
lowtalker1
Went from likeable to hateable
TellItGoodbye
IL by May
DepressedDodgerFan
Funny
Smith 3
Well that sucks.
JV
This won’t age well
Kubanis427
Dodgers will still rattle off at least 3-4 more WS in Ohtani’s tenure.
maxmilna
Not for your mental health.
Yankee Clipper
Brian Cashman is “monitoring the market…”
gravel
He had Snell going to another team in the office free agent pool.
Swingandamiss
Remind me again how the MLB model is better for baseball than the NFL model?
myaccount2
Well there have been more individual World Series winners this century than Super Bowl winners. The proof is in the data.
Joggin’George
Yea but things are changing quickly. Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Boston etc are going to dominate. Watch.
No Salary Cap For You! (Come Back One Year)
So we are in terminator territory now, speculating and blaming people for things they haven’t done and may not ever do. Minority Report also.
Led Hoyer
It’s getting stupid. The disparity from the top spending teams and the rest of the league is absurd. You add in dodgers deferred payroll and you have a massive advantage. They are rolling out an all-star team now.
Yankee Clipper
So, the question is: do you want competitive parity or the appearance of financial parity? Is seems you’re saying the latter, while citing the former.
myaccount2
Why should we suspect this? The Diamondbacks made the World Series as the 20th ranked payroll just last season. MLB playoffs are a greater crapshoot than any other sport. I suspect we have more wild card winners from MLB than NFL over the next 20 years.
YourDreamGM
How many playoffs do you have Arizona in the next 5 years? How many division titles. I got 5 and 5 for LA. Now if Arizona does get a wild card and does advance to the 1st round anything can happen in a 5 or even 7 game series. To win a world series you have to make the playoffs. It’s difficult to miss the playoffs with a 300m payroll unless you have a idiot for a gm severely wasting that $ on awful contracts. It’s just been a fluke so far. Combined with NFL having maybe the 2 best qbs ever dominate this century. In NFL 1 player the qb makes a huge difference.
myaccount2
I get your point, but division titles aren’t very high on my parity list. Playoff appearances and rings tell the story for me, and I’m still not sold on the Dodgers’ rotation staying healthy to keep winning those rings.
MLB playoffs is the biggest crapshoot in North American sports; I feel like the Dodgers only having 2 titles since their division title run began exemplifies that. It shows that any team who gets to the playoffs has a chance. I think Arizona can certainly get back to the playoffs next season, which means they can win it all. On the other hand, I’m not sure the Yankees will even make the playoffs next year and they might have the second highest payroll.
I’m not trying to say the parity is super strong in baseball, it’s just not as bad as others are suggesting, IMO.
Pads Fans
Since Guggenheim bought the Dodgers in 2013 through the 2024 season they have spent over $500 more than the 2nd highest spending team.
They still have only won one full-season WS.
No Salary Cap For You! (Come Back One Year)
$500 more? then why the complaining?
unpaidobserver
In the case of one QB it was the cheating that made the difference…
Pizzaboy
Except same make the playoffs almost every year. Then its a crapshoot
Yankee Clipper
Well, first, the NFL teams get in with a .500 record. Second, what you said just isn’t true. Arizona D-Backs just made the WS, the Rays recently made the WS, and several other teams have made the postseason.
You’re confusing certain teams intentionally tanking (A’s, Pittsburgh, Colorado) with being unable to compete. There’s a big difference.
Joggin’George
No one is intentionally tanking
Yankee Clipper
Seriously? The A’s were NOT tanking? Dude….
Joggin’George
No. There is a difference between giving up and tanking. Perhaps I’m splitting hairs but a poor, yet still overly cheap team losing due to lack of funds and disinterest is not the same as intentionally looking to lose for a draft pick.
Yankee Clipper
Fair enough, I respect your opinion.
good vibes only
The last CBA pretty much killed tanking as a strategy to rebuild quickly.
unpaidobserver
White Sox?
seamaholic 2
The era of dominant spending is just starting. 20 years ago it wasn’t anything like it is now.
Joggin’George
Seamaholic: yes EXACTLY
VegasMoved
Oh ok, so you don’t have any objective facts to back up your assertion. It’s just “trust me bro”
DepressedDodgerFan
BRO WHAT THE ABSOLUTE WHATTTTT
mikeyny
Thank God! I was afraid my Yankees were gonna sign him. Phew!
Kubanis427
Well thank god you still have Cole, Snell will surely get his ass to the base in a do or die game and not point fingers.
YourDreamGM
$ spent on Rodon could have got Snell.
old elpaso
I actually thought he’d get even more. WTF, the dodgers are ……. something
Not a NL fan, but this is beyond extraordinary for LA fans. Wow
Old York
No! My FA signing streak is over at 2. I had Snell going to the Giants.
2 for 3 so far.
Yankee Clipper
You’re not the only one. This throws everything up in the air because the LAD are signing Boras clients again.
yeah, sure!
Ok
Kubanis427
Does this mean we are out on Soto? Can’t complain, Snell will now get his WS rig…
metsin4
You were never really in on Soto.
cr4
Oh no you might not get another generational superstar I’ll pray for you guys must be hard to go through lol
Led Hoyer
They might get him too.
cbraves
Does this mean Fried won’t be going to the Dodgers? Hopefully he will come back to ATL!
cooperhill
Nope, he’s going to Baltimore.
YourDreamGM
Fried could still find a spot with the Dodgers as their longman reliever.
rmullig2
182 over 5 years. No information on how much is deferred. Will be interesting to see how much it is actually worth, I’m guessing around 30M a year.
wbz41
Need a new CBA asap.
No Salary Cap For You! (Come Back One Year)
Never gonna happen LOL
Joggin’George
I always say, spending doesn’t equal winning. But more and more we are getting to where a small handful of teams can outspend the rest of the league by way too wide of a margin.
When you can outspend by THAT much, you’re going to have a radical advantage.
I fear for the future of this sport.
YourDreamGM
You shouldn’t have said that. Your right if you have spent like the Angels one awful contract after another. Or sign a Baez Bryant. But if I had 2 teams and one I could spend 300m and the other 100 150 the 300 one is going to win more games in the long run.
Joggin’George
Well, the Rays seem to do a lot better than teams with higher payrolls.
Point is, if you can afford to spend 250 million, you can afford to make mistakes.
If you top out at 100 million, you can’t.
If you can afford to spend 400 million +…. Then you’ll likely dominate.
Yankeesforever
five-year, $182M deal, per report
cooperhill
For a guy who has only pitched more than 130 innings twice?
Joggin’George
Salaries are out of control. The Dodgers can afford to overpay. Most teams can’t.
VegasMoved
Dodgers are gonna make him their “bulk guy” for bullpen games.
YourDreamGM
There’s only been 4 years that he could have pitched more than 130 and didn’t but 3 of those years he pitched 128 or more.
So 1 year he failed to pitch 128 innings. Doesn’t sound nearly as bad when 200 is considered a feat and 170 180 really great. What’s 40 or 50 innings? Especially for a team that is only concerned about innings in just 1 month. October.
But enjoy your “innings eater” if your small mid market team gets lucky enough to get a wild card, win the 3 game play in round. Snell Glasnow Dodgers will blow past your team of “innings eaters”.
Better get the Dodgers now before they get Skubal Skeenes.
SupremeZeus
Dodgers pitching lab gonna have snellzilla’s arm blown out in no time. Roki, you’re next.
Casor_Greener
Gonna go as poorly as Chris Taylor and Tyler Glasnow
Niekro floater
“It’s good to be the king.” Soto was a rouse all along. Now go re-sign Teo n get Roki. Go Dodgers !
mushelbyman
s.c.r.e.w. the Dodgers…mlb letting mega teams exist now. so stupid…the Dodgers just deferring $ til next century…wtf is happening?
seamaholic 2
The deferral thing is all about tax avoidance. When Snell’s deferred income kicks in he will likely be retired and living in a low tax state.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
The player has to agree to the deferral and most don’t want to do it. A club can’t force it on the player. So if Snell said yes to deferrals to the Dodgers, he should have been open to it for any team.
DanUgglasRing
Brutal. Loved seeing him in a Giants uni this one hurts.
cooperhill
FOR GOD’S SAKE, MLB NEEDS A SALARY CAP!
VonPurpleHayes
A floor. If anything this should encourage other owners to spend.
Joggin’George
There are few teams who are really being “cheap” and forcing them to spend and extra 40 million would accomplish little.
Led Hoyer
A floor will do nothing if the top teams have unlimited payroll and deferred 700 million dollar contracts. It’s getting stupid. Dodgers are getting dang close to an all star team. Once they add Soto they will have the 4 best players in the mlb.
VonPurpleHayes
There are significant penalties in place for spending too much. There are 0 penalties for spending too little. In my opinion, a floor is more important than a cap.
Joggin’George
I almost feel like, rather than a floor, go all the way and work something into the league agreement where a team like the Pirates can be judged to be irresponsible in their indifference towards being competitive and have roster and payroll taken over by MLb.
I realize this would probably be difficult to accomplish.
No Salary Cap For You! (Come Back One Year)
for god’s sake, get it though your heads, ain’t ever ever gonna happen.
Yankee Clipper
The reality is a Cap does nothing other than provide for the appearance of financial parity. NBA and NFL have caps and it doesn’t make a difference for parity.
YourDreamGM
Cap ( not happening soon ) would be huge for mlb parity. Doesn’t work in football basketball because 1 player makes a difference. NBA players can ban together and form a super team. NFL it’s all qb. You get one and keep them a long time.
You can see it in your own division. Rays are considered the smartest team in mlb. Don’t trade with the rays! Yet Yankees give out awful contract after awful contract but continue to win more games. You take the Yankees and make them smarter and you get the Dodgers. Sure you have teams like the Angels who get the least out of big payroll as you can. But 2 equal teams sperated by 150 200 million in payroll the bigger payroll is going to win more often.
Moneyballer
I think I’m going to be sick!
Hawkeye75
just over $36 million for this dude?? Massive overpay.
MoneyBallJustWorks
so barring injury they will have a 2026 rotation of
Ohtani
Snell
Glasgow
Yamamoto
Sasaki (possibly)
likely a 6th
yeah baseball is broken
cbraves
All have big injury history so they won’t get a full season out of any of them.
Yankee Clipper
That’s the best thing about baseball: a team can be monstrous on paper, but how often does baseball prove the paper wrong….
Led Hoyer
The Dodgers went wire to wire last year and never got challenged. Expect more of the same next year. Making the playoffs is a foregone conclusion. They are the Yankees with an intelligent front office. It should scare everyone. If they get Soto, not out of the realm of possibilities, they would have 4 of the best 7 or 8 players in baseball. Including maybe the best player of all time.
Yankee Clipper
Led: I don’t accept that premise though. People said the same if the 2009 Yankees, but they only won 1 WS; then other circumstances prevented a repeat.
Heck, last season the Yankees didn’t even make the playoffs. People said the same of the Mets when Cohen spent, but they were eliminated in the first round.
Baseball is never that clean in application. It’s what makes the game so great.
Led Hoyer
The Dodgers have won 2 in the last 5 years and will be massive favorites for 2025, 2026 and probably 2027 and beyond. Their payroll is going to be gigantic and the off-season has just started.
DanzigInTheDark
your “barring injury” is bearing a ton of weight there, though.
IP in 2024:
0 (Ohtani)
104 (Snell)
134 (Glasnow)
90 (Yamamoto)
111 (Sasaki)
Bivouac-Sal
2024
(1) World Championship
Tim Regan
Since they already have Glasgow, maybe that 6th starter will be Edinburgh!
YourDreamGM
Kershaw future 6? He playing still?
Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee
Hope he makes it to October….
Low IQ Angels Management
The embarrassment for the Angels continues from across town. Dodgers get an ace and the Angels get #5 starter. Wonder why the Angels don’t go to the playoffs and the Dodgers do every year… Hmmm this is hard to understand.
Joggin’George
Meh. The Angels are too far from contention to think big signings will do much. Their problem is terrible scouting, bad contracts, poor development…
YourDreamGM
You got Rendon Trout. Close your eyes and pretend like it’s 2018
TAKERDBACKS
MLB needs to be in trouble and fans should protest. It’s sickening. No one cared but dodger fans when they won this year cause it’s supposed to happen. It’s a joke.
cr4
Salary cap and floor is the only solution at this point
Joggin’George
It’s becoming a joke. Like four or five teams have a chance.
YourDreamGM
Every team has a chance. You can trade all your players, hit on your prospects, draft high for 2 years, have to draft 10th because of anti tanking rule, draft high again 2 years. If you develop and have some luck you can have a window of contention.
Just NY LA can contend every year because they can spend 300 million while 10 teams can only spend 130 and 10 others can only spend 200.
Philly Boston Toronto Atlanta will do well, they can spend 250.
Bivouac-Sal
hahahahahahah
No Salary Cap For You! (Come Back One Year)
if anything, the dodgers are getting a karmic return on being cheated out 1 for sure and 1 maybe World Series. All that outrage everyone is slinging at the Dodgers is what should have been slung at the Cheaters in Houston.
VonPurpleHayes
This stuff actually increases ratings an attendance. It doesn’t harm the game. Non-Dodger fans root against them. It still gives people a reason to watch. It’s a win win.
Joggin’George
It will harm the game when the fans of lower market teams stop watching because their team has no chance.
TAKERDBACKS
Exactly! That’s what people don’t get.Fans won’t care anymore. It will be about 6 teams and that’s it. It’s stupid.
VonPurpleHayes
But they don’t. They just complain on the internet.
VonPurpleHayes
That’s not how it works though. The Dodgers have out-of-market viewers either loving or hating them.
Devlsh
Not only that, but it’s a sport. Everyone should be playing under the same competitive conditions. That isn’t happening now.
Look, I understand if you live in NY or LA, you may think this is great as a fan of your team….but it’s not great for the sport or the 20 or so teams that can’t operate this way.
We don’t allow one team to play with 11 men on the field.
We don’t allow one team to use aluminum bats.
We don’t allow one team to have a 30 man roster.
We don’t allow one team to use a different ball.
Why should one team be allowed to spend 3-5 times what another spends?
YourDreamGM
Fans care. Seems they will keep caring. There’s teams with slim chance of winning this year, some 3 years from now, some heck 5 years out. Still have too many fans.
Kewldude69
As a Dodgers fan, I don’t get it. Their pitching is stacked, and Sasaki seemed like the best move. I wanted Willy Adames. This is just weird.
seamaholic 2
Nothing says they won’t sign them all.
vertigo
You are a Dodger fan? and you didn’t see the insane issues with the rotation last year? They need another starter if they don’t get Sasaki. They absolutely needed another front line starter, Snell is a great pick up to solidify the rotation.
Yankee Clipper
I think they see the writing in the wall with injuries to the rotation and also realize Sasaki isn’t coming until 2026, at the earliest.
They want to win and understand they have a limited window (although a much bigger window than many other teams). I wish the Yankees ownership was this committed to winning.
Led Hoyer
They will get adames, don’t fear
YankeesBleacherCreature
I had them at signing a SP or two instead spending on Soto. The Dodgers aren’t done.
YourDreamGM
LA plays to win championships. They have electric playoff arms but never know when they will hurt. They need as many as they can get. They aren’t expecting 200 innings out of these guys.
Moneyballer
Dodgers are just going to win every championship for a decade then all the money kicks in and they’ll tear it all down for awhile.
mkeving
The deferred money is paid ahead of time into an escrow account so theoretically it shouldn’t really impact future spending. Gives the player future income and the team greater flexibility.
Joggin’George
And the deferred money is invested and brings back return. They won’t feel the slightest sting.
uberalec
Future income is almost always worse than current income. Selfless or not, MLB should not allow a deferred salary loophole.
Joggin’George
The player getting future income gets more money and future security without the burden of having to make their own investments. It’s VERY fair and absolutely should be allowed.
If the player doesn’t want deferred money, they don’t have to sign.
El Niño
It should still count against the luxury tax is the loophole that’s screwing everything up.
YourDreamGM
Win every NL west. Just about. For awhile. Playoffs are crap shoot. They could run into the 84 win pirates with keller skenes jones Chandler and that’s it. Dodgers will get their share but won’t win every one. Philly NY NY Houston Atlanta Boston etc can spend some $ too.
mushelbyman
Dodgers sign Roki Sasaki and Willy Adames next. screw baseball. lost interest over past 5 years with these “mega” deals
VonPurpleHayes
I just have a hard time imagining Snell pitching for an NL West team…
DanzigInTheDark
Deal ends after his age-36 season – non-zero chance he could sign a pair of one year deals with the Dbacks and Rockies to complete the set!
99socalfrc
Screw you Blake Snell.
Signed,
Padres Fan
El Niño
Nah, he deserves his bag. Its really screw the dodgers and the league at this point.
99socalfrc
No really. I hope they throw dollar bills at this guy in Petco.
10centBeerNight
But Cohen is the boogeyman, bruh
VonPurpleHayes
The Dodgers motivate Cohen. He’s a scorned lover. He tried to buy the Dodgers before the Mets. Now the Mets are his consolation prize. He’s going to spend a ton to make them just as pretty as his beloved Dodgers. He wants them jealous.
Joggin’George
He’s gonna do it too. Watch, it’s gonna be Dodgers, Mets, Yanks dominating.
Cards, Sawx, Cubs trailing…
Then a changing cast of whatever, but with small chance at the WS.
This is where we are headed.
No Salary Cap For You! (Come Back One Year)
if you see the future so well, why aren’t you buying lotto tickets and buying a life? Baseball viewership is at an all time high worldwide. The world series alone had it’s biggest numbers ever in japan this year. so it looks like the cardinals may not be the NL team with most ws for too much longer 🙂
Joggin’George
I’m making an thought out point. You’re talking lotto tickets and throwing around emojis.
Talk like an adult or I’m not responding further.
Rays in the Bay
@Joggin
Ah yes, the scourge of Dodgers fans that have invaded social media. Half are spoiled rich kids and the others are suits. Hard to take them seriously. I wouldn’t respond either
DarrenDreifortsContract
Out of the top MLB free agent pitchers. That’s exactly who I wanted. I also wouldn’t mind taking a risk on Bieber. Assuming we miss out on Sasaki.
162-0 in 2025! Viva La Dodgers!!!!!
gv84
These deferred contracts are like Moneyball analytics except Dodgers found a loophole on the other end to bet on inflation that these contracts will be a steal. This is totally a Soto bait to improve the team and get him on board with the free cash they have on hand. I’m guessing the market is becoming clear and the asking price is Ohtani money.
No Salary Cap For You! (Come Back One Year)
Dodgers, Mets, Nationals, etc. Convenient how everyone forgets this is hardly the first team to do this and every team could do this and likely will start following suit.
99socalfrc
Oh really? Why don’t you tell us the last team to sign a $700m contract and defer $680m of it.
Or when was the last time a team paid someone a $52m signing bonus?
We will wait.
uberalec
Yeah, he tried, but it’s not even remotely comparable.
DarrenDreifortsContract
Yes, the defending world champions that just embarrassed Soto in the world series needed to sign Snell to impress him lmao.
rmullig2
If I was Roki I would reconsider any plan I may have had to join the Dodgers. They have Ohtani, Yamamoto, Snell, and Glasnow set for the rotation. He would have to beat out Gonsolin, Miller, Grove, and May just to crack the rotation. Otherwise he’s in the bullpen waiting for an injury.
Old York
@rmullig2
If the Dodgers sign him, he’s in the rotation. Those other guys will be in the pen or traded.
Diggydugler
No chance he doesnt go to the Dodgers, its Japan’s team! goooo baseball!
DarrenDreifortsContract
Dustin May can’t sit up in bed without getting hurt. He’s not beating out anyone for a rotation spot lol.
Blackpink in the area
Dodgers will most likely go with a 6 man rotation next year.
YourDreamGM
He doesn’t care if the rotation has 6 hall of famers. He will go wherever the $ is.
mets1977
Again deferred money…at some point the Dodgers are actually going to have to pay these players.
No Salary Cap For You! (Come Back One Year)
that’s conveniently the problem of Future Dodgers Executives!
Joggin’George
In the meantime they are investing the money they aren’t spending. They will be fine.
Yankee Clipper
Your point is what all the people who are in a panic are missing. Money is finite and the bills will come due one way or another. LAD is trying to maximize winning in their window, but it’s still a window that will close.
Joggin’George
But it won’t close. All of that future money is already accounted for. Do you really think a business that big just lives year to year? The money they are not paying yet is being invested and MAKING money for them.
This is the type of smart financial games that are easy for the perversely rich to pay.
When the deferred money comes due they are simply going to reach into whatever account is designed to pay it and pay. It won’t set them back a bit.
Yankee Clipper
Yes, I don’t disagree with you. My point is that regardless of how much they defer, eventually it has to be paid. No team will be able to sustain this level of spending over the long-term. It’s not feasible and will be self-correcting, imho.
Joggin’George
Yankee Clipper: yes, I see what you are saying. We are headed towards the billion dollar player. This is not sustainable. And deferments are a dangerous thing when your business model is potentially fragile.
YourDreamGM
They will have $ counting against the tax but the tax will have gone up by then as well. They kicked the can down the road. By then though they might develop some studs that they have for minimum wage for 6 years.
seamaholic 2
No they pay every year into escrow. The players would never accept a deal if they didn’t. It’s just a loophole that allows the Dodgers to save lux tax and the player to avoid CA state income tax.
Joggin’George
Ultimately, deferred salary probably benefits the team in the long run
jkoko
Dodgers are the new Yankees of past
Mynameisnoname
There will be scraps only by the end of the winter meetings this year.
I don’t think there will be much of an appetite to be this year’s Jordan Montgomery.
mkeving
Dang would have much rather had Fried than Snell.
l9ydodger
@mkeving; IDK, I think Fried’s elbow is about to blow.
Bivouac-Sal
@mkeving
Fried is good. Snell is better.
towinagain
MLB is a joke.
Every-Sha-La-La-La
Let the count of free agents not signed by the Red Sox begin! This will be the first of who knows how many that they will say they were “aggressively in on” who end up signing somewhere else. It’s going to be another long winter up in Boston.
cr4
Dodgers are single handedly forcing every fanbase to become in favor of a salary cap this is great
BronxBombers23
Hal and Cash are sitting and watching. I mean Hal allows Cash to spend, but the result is pretty bad…
SewaldSwansonSwoon
Dumb. That wasn’t even fun.
highflyballintorightfield
Snell provides a little extra benefit to the Dodgers in that they don’t have to face him. They had trouble vs him.
Yankeesforever
if any of us normal working people didn’t show up for work half the time, we would get fired, Blake gets a 182 million.
Joggin’George
If you were injured at work you wouldn’t get fired.
Sorry, no comparison.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
This is nuts because it’s the Dodgers and they’re skewing the market badly and over paying for everything and everybody- they’re officially what the Yankees were 20 years ago.
That said- I think this will be a cromulent contract. Not a disaster, not a complete success. Good for Snell, I guess.
Diggydugler
If only Yankees players agreed to deferrals they could have been a dynasty!
Joggin’George
Baseball is headed for trouble.
highflyballintorightfield
Did anyone have this one? Of the top FA pitchers he seemed the least likely to go to the Dodgers, IMO anyway.
differentbears
It’s fun being a Dodger fan these days.
seamaholic 2
Is it? I was a fan of a superteam once and found it very boring after a while. Those mid season games vs teams that made less in total than the left side of your infield were pretty cringy. I lost interest and then started rooting for one of those teams, and still do.
differentbears
No, it sucks dominating the World Series against our historic AL rival, winning a second title in five years, then adding a Cy Young winner to the rotation in the offseason.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Nov ’23 – “Snell isn’t worth the money”
June ’24 – “Every team dodged a bullet except the Giants”
Sept ’24 – “Snell would be wise to pick up his option year”
Oct ’24 – “LOL Snell for optioning out”
Nov ’24 – “F the Dodgers! Overpaid! It’s not fair.”
Mynameisnoname
I get your point and it’s a good one. We as fans are fickle! Nov 23′ and June 24′ are on point, but who the heck was saying Snell couldn’t top 1 year/~30 mil on the open market?
He was the best pitcher in the NL in Sept 24′ and most people were guessing 150mil+ in Oct 24′.
metsin4
Not all fans. The Dodgers are going to age fast. Their window isn’t nearly what people think it is. Snell has had two career years. Hardly worth the money.
99socalfrc
$52m signing bonus? WTF how is MLB planning on having a competitive league in 5 years?
Mynameisnoname
Do you know how that affects the luxury tax?
Is the 52 removed from the 182 total, so 5 years/132 millions for LT purposes?
YankeesBleacherCreature
It doesn’t. It’s simply an advanced on his salaries and will counts towards his AAV. The huge upfront sum actually negates whatever the Dodgers may stand to gain with his deferred money.
Mynameisnoname
Makes sense. Thanks for the knowledge.
And I agree with Diggy that it is a big market flex that may need CBA addressing.
seamaholic 2
The deferrals are not to benefit the Dodgers (the contract will certainly require them to pay into escrow each year enough to guarantee the deferred payments). They are for the player to avoid CA state income tax.
Diggydugler
I think it counts towards the luxury tax so it is likely just because they have lots of money in the coffers right now to pay upfront because of WS + Japan money. But there should definitely be limits on these silly accounting structures, but it doesnt effect 98% of the players in the league. so no one cares.
Mynameisnoname
I appreciate the clarity. Certainly still an advantage only a dozen or so clubs could oblige.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Be ready for the misguided uproar when Snell’s updated BRef profiles shows that he’s *only* making $20MM/yr. with the Dodgers.
99socalfrc
The point is no other team has $52m to give him right now (like literally immediately). All of it still goes against the tax (except we don’t know what kind of shady deferral stuff they e done) but obviously it’s huge negotiating leverage to just be like “we will write you a $52m check before you leave the building”. At what point does MLB step in to even the playing field? Last year the Dodgers signed the joke of a contract with Ohtani and now this?
VegasMoved
The signing bonus is meaningless from a luxury tax perspective. That’s just about when the Dodgers pay Snell. What matters is the Average Annual Value (in present-day value). So his luxury tax hit is $36.4 million (depending on how much is deferred).
0523me
Vomit.
Mike the Fat Oriole Bird
Years ago, “The Onion” ran an article about the Yankees actually signing every single major league baseball player during the offseason. I thought it was really funny.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
So it’ll be an annual cost of $26M a year, but won’t the CBA/Luxury Tax still be $36.4M, right?
I know that they covered this issue with Ohtani’s contract- what the “real dollar value” vs the “present day value” etc.
Also does this mean the Dodgers are transferring $52M one time to him upfront or is this one of those “signing bonuses” that’s actually just clever structuring- where some guys have that, say “$52 million signing bonus on a 10 year deal” but it’s actually $5.2 million a year extra as a pre-season or post season “bonus” or whatever?
99socalfrc
We don’t know the deferred money yet. The signing bonus counts against the tax, so that by itself doesn’t change the tax numbers. Deferred money does.
seamaholic 2
When the bonus is paid doesn’t matter for lux tax purposes. It’s averaged out over the five years. So yes, lux tax would be $36m a year. However deferrals are handled differently. They don’t count in lux tax until they are paid out, even though the team will be paying all along into escrow. And player pays no state tax on the deferrals either until he is retired and living in a no income tax state (or country). Total loophole. I’m gonna guess the deferrals are most of the rest of the $130m.
hockeyjohn
MLB is very, very broken.
Kc smoke
MAKE A SALARY CAP
also this is insane pay for a guy that’s gone 180 innings just twice in his career.
Ben K
Dodgers are really doing their best to become the hated free-spending Yankees of old.
Consider it done.
Terry B
And loving it!!
jdgoat
Ohtani, Yamamoto, Snell, Glasnow, and then your pick of about 4 good options. My god
momTurphy
Through 2029 they have Glasnow, Ohtani, Yoshi, Snell, and Bobby Miller….
Plus Gonsolin, Stone, May.
Still favorites for Roki who is a negligible cost until 2028-2030ish.
But that’s 6 big time starters for a team that still has a couple lineup holes.
Diggydugler
Lineup holes? I dont think a team with 3 position player MVPs (counting DH as position player) is too worried about lineup holes.. They may have settle for just a 2WAR corner OF 🙁
momTurphy
Relatively speaking for them. I would have thought a 3B or an OF was a much bigger need. Where an SP seemed meaningless to them. I just have more questions after this signing than answers. Makes you wonder about Ohtanis pitching health, if they’re out on Soto, if they’re out on Roki, etc.
Bivouac-Sal
@mom
as if they are done
seamaholic 2
They can trade for their last couple positions where they don’t have an all star.
YourDreamGM
A deferred A for LA. I think of similar contracts deGrom Rodon. I’d rather have Snell. Cole twice as much. Sale needing tj. These awful 1 years with player option. It’s a lot of $ so risk. Solid deal though and the more $ deferred the better the deal.
Johnny81913
So $52 million signing bonus will be on their 2025 salary or how does that work? Guessing his salary is gonna be practically nothing for a year or 2?
seamaholic 2
For lux tax calculations the bonus is divided evenly over the 5 years. But yeah, I would imagine the salary structure will be heavily back loaded with some deferrals, so they will be able to load even more into this year’s roster.
JoseCruz68
Wow I hope the Dodgers go broke what a terrible sign!
maxmilna
Lmao cry more
seamaholic 2
They won’t. L.A. is an incredibly wealthy city and they not only draw the most, but charge the most per ticket, AND have the biggest local media deal.
Ma4170
Would have liked him on the mets but wouldnt have liked that contract. Dodgers just got even more dangerous.
Zakis
Tim, do you have us do these free agent brackets for us to pull our hair out after signings like this?
momTurphy
Next year I’m picking the Dodgers for the top 25 and angels for the bottom 25. Bound to get about 10 right
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
How have the Dodgers not gone over the tax threshold yet? Another contract worth 182 million. It’s getting ridiculous
momTurphy
They’ll be way over tax thresholds. And there is a lot of gamble in these moves. It may be 5+ years away, but a string of bad injuries, worse draft picks and Intl signings (due to tax threshold penalties) could cause massive financial constraints. But as of now they are banking more money than they are putting out still. The difference between the Evil Empire Yankees and these Dodgers, is the Dodgers have brilliant financial brains behind it all.
Terry B
Dodgers print money, they’ll be just fine!
SeanStL
Fools! A big market team should play it super safe and not spend money except on slightly above average players at just enough to make sure they all add up to an amount that prevents you from signing a big contract or have room to bring up your wealth of good but not great minor leaguers, like the Cubs.
differentbears
Dodgers are on a mission to get every player on the 2020 Rays a ring.
Rays in the Bay
No position players of course! They can have Taylor Walls for free!
bucsfan0004
Snell is a perfect fit for the Dodgers… 5-6 inning pitcher who Ks a ton.
99socalfrc
Padres signing Walker Buehler to a prove it deal & 2025 Cy Young incoming…
Baseball77
This puts me 0 for 3 on the Top 50 free agent guesses. I wonder if they give out a prize for missing on all the players?
yukz
I feel bad for guys like Knack, Gonsolin, May, Gavin Stone or even Bobby Miller who will never have a real chance to be starters on this team! All of the would be starters on most of the other 29 teams
bluesteele
Trade bait!
Mariner22
The real danger of Dodger spending is it gives poor teams an excuse to not spend money. Why spend $150 million if the Dodgers spend $400 million? Get the same results with a $50 million payroll…
bluesteele
Or be the Royals and Baltimore!
seamaholic 2
Low payroll teams being successful is actually the far bigger incentive for teams to not spend.
cencal
What a rotation they have now.
An aging Kershaw is basically an afterthought at this point.
Ohtani, Glasnow, Snell, Yoshi, Fill in by whoever is healthy. (not in any order)
No need for Soto whatsoever.
good vibes only
Probably get Sasaki too. No, they definitely do not NEED Juan Soto.
runningwithnailclippers
But you know they really want him. I just don’t know if Soto would do the deferred money thing? I think some players are less excited about it.
VegasMoved
The rotation as it stands now (knowing Kershaw will re-sign):
1. Glasnow
2. Ohtani
3. Snell
4. Yamamoto
5. Kershaw
6. Gonsolin
Terry B
You forgot Sasaki, he’ll be in Dodger Blue soon!
VonPurpleHayes
I dont see Yamamoto has a 4 at all.
hoof hearted
For a guy that has had a hard time averaging more than 5inn/start.??????
Bivouac-Sal
@hoof
have you watched any baseball lately?
osfandan
At this rate baseball won’t be worth watching in a few years, unless some sort of salary floor & cap system is implemented. If they sign Soto it could cause irreparable damage to the sport.
momTurphy
It really sucks for SD, SF, Ari, Col fans who basically have to hope for a wild card. Baseball can still go to anyone in a playoff series though.
9/11ths
What really sucks for Colorado fans is an owner that knows the fan base will always somewhat support a garbage product, so they never deliver. The Dodgers have no effect on the Rockies.
The Rockies keep digging their hole while teams in the division keep trying. Don’t lump that buried pile of garbage with those other teams.
seamaholic 2
The Rox are doing fine. Their owner doesn’t care much about winning championships and it’s his toy, he can do what he wants. Their players love it there, too.
momTurphy
I agree there’s a big gap between Colorado and the rest of the NL West, but I think if they were in a central division or the AL west a team pumping out talent like Tovar, Doyle, Toglia…with Hughes, Dollander, Amador, Condon, Montgomery on the way…there would be light at the end of the tunnel
Oldhalo
@9/11ths – Forget the “garbage product”. You are clearly over looking that one team is snatching up the top 95% tier players, leaving the rest of the league with few options. Credit the Dodgers with servicing the fan base if you want but the greater issue, the issue that you are missing, is that it is unhealthy for the game, and the general consumer, unless of course your a Dodger fan.
Led Hoyer
Playing in the NL west is going to stink for a while. Not only do you get a disproportionate amount of games against the dodgers you can only get a wild card spot for your troubles. The white Sox single handedly peopled every Al central team into the playoff race last year and the Dodgers will have the opposite effect for the NL west.
Bivouac-Sal
@ Led
the best playoff matchup this past October was Padres-Dodgers. Padres nearly won it. Could have. Not to mention the Friars won the season series between the two. (8 to 5).
Rays in the Bay
@mom
The more I watch, the less I believe that. Buying talent shores up weaknesses and pushed a team through injuries at the finish line. What was the most flawed team that won the WS? 2019 Nationals? 2015 Royals? Other than those teams, most champions had a large pool of talent and enough money to buy talent.
numberoneslayerfan
of course, lol
DarrenDreifortsContract
Everyone is complaining like every other team in MLB can’t afford this contract.
gravel
We don’t know if any other team did offer the same contract or more. Snell had the chance to sign with the defending WS champs who are also perpetual winners of the NL West and a team willing to spend to improve. There is more in LA’s favor than the contract.
VegasMoved
They’re also complaining about the deferrals which, frankly, look pretty modest for an MLB contract. There’s nothing crazy about this deal, people just don’t like the fact that it was the Dodgers who signed it.
Rays in the Bay
Literally 80% can’t. The remaining 20% are hoping to spend big money on Soto.
14thor
No Snell. No Soto. Just Sasaki.
Eric Ferrari
1. Glasnow
2. Snell
3. Yamamoto
4. Ohtani
5. Sasaki
6. Kershaw
This is insane.
seamaholic 2
Three of four best pitchers Japan ever produced, and five Cy Youngs among the others. Oh, and Tyler Glasnow.
Terry B
Fing love it!!
Smacky
Out of the Max Fried sweepstakes.
Butter Biscuits
Lets go goose!!
gravel
Gross.
mlbnyyfan
IMO. If I’m LA. I sign Burns instead or traded for Skubal.
Reyday
Why would the tigers even think about trading Skubal with their latest postseason run and Jobe/Clark/Jung about to get their feet wet?
momTurphy
I think Snell gets the nod from the Dodgers as a lefty to balance their rotation. Otherwise I’d agree. Could’ve had Burnes at a similar price.
SteveFinleyEnthusiast
Hey, good for Blake. I will not enjoy watching him pitch against my Friars, but that’s a hell of a deal for him.
highflyballintorightfield
This thread isn’t complete until Mickey Solis gets here.
unpaidobserver
Only Manfraud is under the mistaken impression that all this is good for the game.
The biggest tr0ll
Thank goodness it’s not the Red Sox. I don’t trust Snell to pitch a full season
No surprise it’s the Dodgers and I’ll bet they’ll be after Soto as well
Goetta
MLB is a joke. This deferred money contracts have to go. How is the rest of the league supposed to compete with teams that spend more on 2 players than other teams spend on their entire roster? Kids growing up watching their star players for 5 years and then bail to big markets because they can’t afford them. It’s not good for the sport. Buying championships shouldn’t be a thing. Adding pieces I’m fine with. But having a billion dollars in deferred money to avoid the luxury tax when there is already no salary cap is absurd. I remember when people lost their minds about Mike Piazza getting 8 mil a year. Where is this all going? Billion dollar contracts for baseball players? Seriously? Some teams don’t even have TV deals right now and this is allowed. Wake up MLB. NY, LA and a few other markets will love you. The rest you are losing. My team hasn’t won a playoff series since the 90’s. I may die without seeing another one at this rate.
VegasMoved
The deferrals in this contract are pretty modest and typical for most MLB contracts. Not sure why people are getting upset over this.
bluepelotas
Every team in MLB can offer deferral contracts ….LOL but they choose not to and then fans blame the system or the mighty Dodgers!!!?? Haters are bums
Rays in the Bay
@Vegas,
I’ve done research on contracts before and never encountered this type of deferral payment. If it is normal as you say, it has not been done to the extent of what the Dodgers are doing now.
VegasMoved
Do more research. Most high value contracts had at least some deferred money. This contract doesn’t have much compared to what you normally see in big contracts. The only outlier is Ohtani.
runningwithnailclippers
It is a joke, but these owners don’t care about it being fair. They just want the money and with it being shared, they don’t really care.
StreakingBlue
The concept of purchasing a championship is a misconception. Please elucidate why deferring compensation is detrimental. If a player desires to defer a portion of their salary to facilitate the acquisition of another player, thereby enhancing the team’s chances of success, it should not be viewed as a negative action. Not trying to argue. Just want to see some sorta explanation.
Rays in the Bay
What are you talking about? The Dodgers JUST bought their championship. Betts/Freeman/Ohtani/Yamamoto… Yeah sure some were trades but they also had loads of money to extend them, didn’t they?
What you say is true, but there’s a difference between one or two players doing it and building a superteam. Superteams are not good for sports in general. Yankees never had a superteam. Neither did the Mets, Astros, Red Sox, Padres. They always landed one or two big FAs, but that doesn’t hold a candle to what the Dodgers are currently doing.
VegasMoved
“Yankees never had a superteam.”
Son, how old are you?
maxmilna
Waaaaah waaaah
BabyBoyBlueDiamond
Of course the Dodgers are Signing Snell. It’s pointless to have real competition. If it’s not the Yankees, it’s the Dodgers. This league is a joke.
runningwithnailclippers
Good for them for signing him, and all the rest this off season. I wonder how many bandwagon/winning team chaser fans they have picked up?
It's in the CARDS
Those fans are where the dollars lie.
Old York
Always wanted to know how an All-Star team would do in 162 season. Let’s hope they sign Burnes and Soto too
Oldhalo
Time for me to move onto football where things are more competitive and will be more entertaining. The Dodgers weren’t even at full strength going into the World Series and they made the Yankees look like the Chicago White Sox. No salary cap, no limits on deferred salaries, and no way of assuring the general baseball consumer gets a quality product, which is good competitive baseball. Why watch and why pay?
VegasMoved
Yeah, in the NFL you see a different champion every year. When was the last time the NFL had back-to-back champs?
Bivouac-Sal
@oldhalo
bye
Gumby82
It’s ok, Giants fans. We signed Max Stassi to a minor league deal.
gravel
The Max Stassi mega AAA minor league roster filler deal was announced prior to this. It is more likely
the Snell signing is in response to the Stassi signing.
“We’ll show you Max!” Friedman, probably.
Rays in the Bay
I think all FAs have it in for the Giants.
Dodgerfan75
Ah would’ve rather had max fried
Bivouac-Sal
I like Fried but Snell is better
towinagain
Let’s face it the Dodgers will sign every FA available this offseason. MLB will.make a roster size exemption for them.
MLB is a joke.
Informed Sportsball Discussion
It’s gonna be a long decade, isn’t it?
Pads Fans
Congrats to Snellzilla for getting paid. Very happy for him. $36.4 million AAV is a lot of money.
Because the $33 million AAV in “present day dollars” puts them over the Cohen CBT tax line, the Dodgers will pay $69.3 million for Snell in 2025.
Rays in the Bay
Snell will probably not be as good as the end of last year just because he’s always been pretty inconsistent year to year. Having said that, if he has a good year, he can be ace quality. The Dodgers now have 4 aces on their staff. They have no limit on resources. All the money they can get from their own TV network and sponsor deals from Japan, so this is pennies to them, and actually cheapens the contract due to inflation.
Amazing. I don’t expect them to sign anyone else except Sasaki, but what do I know? Their resources just never end, I shouldn’t be surprised by who they sign anymore.
south side hit men
This is actually great for MLB. They need a dynasty type team for casual fans to latch onto or to root against. Dynasty team/villain is good for business.
Well....shoot
Padres need to sign Buehler and Sasaki
maxmilna
Crying yourself to sleep tonight?
Mickey Solis
Don’t even allow comments here. The sane people who realize these greedy pigs are ruining the sport are being outnumbered by the loser trolls posing as Dodgers “fans” telling you that your favorite owner could do it too! It’s disgusting, they abuse the system, but MLB is a sham and I sincerely hope people stop watching.
rubenc49
All non-Dodger fans may have forgotten how we suffered through the Frank McCourt era from 2004-2012. Our payroll fell below mid market teams as he used the Dodgers as his personal piggy bank and neglected the team. Our attendance dwindled as fans fought back they only we could, by boycotting games. The Guggenheim Group bought the team to make money, sure, but they do that by wanting to win more than everyone else. If the Guggenheim Group had purchased YOUR favorite team then it would be YOUR team that would be reaping the benefits. Other baseball owners don’t allocate resources like Guggenheim. Ask them why.
Also, Dodger fans know our pitchers often spend more time on the IL than on the mound (LA only had three starters in’24). I guarantee the Dodger playoff rotation will NOT feature Glasnow, Snell, Yamamoto, Ohtani, and whoever the other two are (LA will have a six man rotation). Guys you’ve never heard of will be pitching for LA in October. No doubt.
The Dodgers were the best team in 1978. They lost. They were the best team in 2017. They lost. Anything can happen in October, like getting swept by Arizona in 2023. The best don’t always win. The richest don’t always win. You still have to play the game and honestly, the Dodgers have underperformed in their time in LA. In the past 59 years, the Dodgers have only won THREE “normal” championships (’65, ’88, ’24) Their ’81 crown was the Strike year and “20 was Covid.
As a Dodger fan, I feel the Dodger organization had (and still has) something to prove. On paper, they are the best team in MLB but baseball isn’t Strat-o-Matic. There is nothing guaranteed, nothing automatic but the Guggenheim Group keeps reminding all the other teams: to become the champion, you must BEAT LA.
Rsox
Because, why not right?
Oh well, keeps him out of Boston, which probably isn’t a bad thing
Redstitch108* 2
This is an outrage. The Dodgers and Yankees have priced out the other 28 teams totally. No chance for any other teams. And the average fan has been priced out too from going to the games. The MLB is broken. Very broken. Sad.
maxmilna
Mets too
Len Clements
How many fellow Boomers remember back in 1976 when A’s owner Charley Finley sold Joe Rudi and Rollie Fingers to the Red Sox for $1 million each ($5.55 million today) and Vida Blue to the Yankees for $1.5 million ($8.32 million), then three days later commissioner Bowie Kuhn disallowed these already star-laden teams to simply buy even more top talent because it wasn’t in the “best interests of baseball”?