As the Cardinals look to trim payroll and shift towards focusing on young players in 2025, they’ve widely been expected to look to trade a number of their more expensive, veteran players. It seems as though that won’t come to pass with Willson Contreras and Sonny Gray, both of whom seem unlikely to waive their no-trade clauses to facilitate a move elsewhere. Third baseman Nolan Arenado is seemingly open to a move, however, though his own no-trade protection means that he would need to approve of any deal as well. One veteran player who lacks no-trade protection, however, is southpaw Steven Matz. That could leave the Cardinals motivated to part with him this winter, and Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch suggests that the club plans to “field interest” on both Matz and closer Ryan Helsley this winter.
MLBTR’s Anthony Franco discussed Helsley’s trade candidacy earlier this month, and previous reporting from Goold suggested that the Cardinals figure to set a high asking price for their closer. By contrast, Matz figures to be a more affordable player for teams to acquire who the Cardinals figure to be more motivated to move. The 33-year-old is entering the final year of his contract in 2025 and is due $12.5MM for next season. By offloading Matz’s contract, St. Louis’s payroll projection for next year (courtesy of RosterResource) would drop from just under $147MM to just $134MM. After the club spent $183MM on payroll in 2024, that type of drop off should be more than enough to accomplish their goal of reallocating funds away from payroll into their player development apparatus, and could even open the door to the club making some modest upgrades in free agency, whether that be a reunion with veteran right-hander Kyle Gibson or bringing a new arm into the organization.
While the Cardinals would surely like to offload the final year of Matz’s contract, that may be easier said than done. The lefty has had an up-and-down tenure with St. Louis since signing with the club prior to the 2022 season. He’s struggled with injuries and ineffectiveness throughout his time there, totaling just 197 1/3 innings of work during that time. Of his 52 appearances with the Cardinals, he’s started 34 while pitching out of the bullpen for 18.
His results have been roughly league average overall when he’s been healthy enough to take the mound, with a 4.47 ERA (95 ERA+), a 4.01 FIP, and a 21.9% strikeout rate. That production has been somewhat unsteady, however, with most of it coming during his mostly-healthy 2023 season. That year, Matz posted a 3.84 ERA (114 ERA+) with a 3.75 FIP in 105 innings of work. That solid work is sandwiched between two campaigns that saw him post an ERA north of 5.00. That includes this past season, where Matz struggled to a 5.08 ERA with a similar 4.88 FIP in 44 1/3 innings. He struck out just 17.4% of opponents this past year while posting a 7.9% walk rate that was his worst since 2018.
That’s not a particularly enticing body of work for potential trade partners, though that doesn’t mean Matz is impossible to trade. Notably, Matz has pitched substantially better in his relief outings with the Cardinals than he has during his time in the rotation. In 163 frames for the club as a starter, Matz has posted a 4.91 ERA. Meanwhile, his 33 1/3 innings as a member of the bullpen saw him post a much more intriguing 2.43 ERA. While the lefty’s overall results and durability as a member of the rotation leave his contract with little if any surplus value, it wouldn’t be a shock to see a club intrigued by his work out of the bullpen acquire him to act as a versatile reliever capable of stepping into the rotation if necessary. It’s a role some pitchers such as Nick Martinez, Jakob Junis, Spencer Turnbull, and Michael Lorenzen have found success with in recent years, and a team that values that sort of flexibility on their pitching staff like the Giants or Rangers could be a good fit for the lefty’s services.
Sunday Lasagna
If a team needs Matz to improve, desperation must be prevailing. Cards may need to pay his salary to get a team to take him.
Lanidrac
Unlike Mikolas, Matz at least has some trade value, as he’s still a decent pitcher when he’s on the field. The Cardinals might have to eat a few million, but they wouldn’t have to cover his entire salary.
Besides, if they did need to eat his whoie salary, they might as well just keep him in the first place.
astick
NO kidding. Listening. lol. Yaaaassss. I’m sure.
What a puke statement.
17dizzy
Actually —- Matz has some trade value. Both as a 6th starter or Lefthanded reliever.
Mikolas is the one the Cardinals will have to eat all of his salary. Because of another dumb John Mozeliak 2 year extension of Mikolas.
This one belongs to the Reds
You are going to see more of these versatile guys on rosters with all the four and five inning pitchers.
Ketch
Expect to field interest?
OK. Good luck with that…
Superstar Prospect Wander Javier
My men’s league team needs a number 2 starter.
kenly0
WOW. No one wants Matz. They’d have to give someone like Helsley for free to get someone to take Matz.
Lanidrac
Why not? If an acquiring team gets lucky to where Matz actually stays healthy, they get a decent pitcher for not a bad price, especially if the Cardinals are willing to eat a few million of his salary.
kellin
He alternates between having a good year and a bad year, and if all holds, he should have a good year. Cardinals throw in half the money and ask for some low level prospects, they might get someone like Marlins or As to bite..
LouWhitakerHOF
Teams like the Marlins and A’s keep their budgets low by accumulating prospects not giving them up for players like Matz.
DarkSide830
Plenty of Matz clones and better in free agency
deweybelongsinthehall
No disrespect meant but Matz has been an enigma his whole career. Good stuff and at times has looked really special yet due to injuries and performance he’s at most a four and more likely a five. Those spots are not going to a $12.5m pitcher at least not until the deadline. If he stays healthy, I can see a team desperate due to their own injuries or back end performances give a marginal prospect or two for him. Even then, the Cards could have to pay down the salary to get that second prospect.
Salzilla
Crickets…
gr8one99
It’s funny how Mozeliak is on record basically saying the Cardinals were adverse to signing a big tag free agent pitcher due to the risk associated with potential injuries and then he signed Matz who had a history of arm issues…….
Lanidrac
At the time they signed Matz, he had a decent health record. Most of his injuries have occurred after they signed him.
eatonculo
Matz looks great, plays bad, throws a good game, gets injured, plays bad, throws a good game, looks great, gets injured, plays bad, etc…
He might last full season in the bullpen one day, but he’s not worth $11 million.
If a POBO needs a left-handed reliever, has a lot of money, and squints real hard, they might give the Cardinals a washed out 25-year-old reliever still in A-ball.
thickiedon
Better off trading in-season. Currently, Kyle Gibson and several others could be had cheaper without sparing prospects?!? Absurd to think payroll would decrease from $147MM to $134MM. NO team will take on his full salary. And then propose STL uses savings to resign Gibson? Ridiculous article
Sk8
What interest? Matz hasn’t been good since 2021.
Lanidrac
He hasn’t had a full healthy season since 2021. There’s a difference.
The McNasty1
Matz, as an MLB pitcher, is garbage.
CardsFan57
There are two possibilities for trading Matz. 1. Eat most of his salary. 2. Hope he has a good first half and deal him at the deadline.
His contract is well underwater.
10centBeerNight
Caveat emptor
seamaholic 2
Take a $6m or so player back who can be a bench hitter, plus an exchange of prospects. This can be done, as lefties with good pen numbers who can start in an emergency are worth something. Just not $12m.
BigV
Agree good idea
Blue Baron
He might be ripe for the proverbial mid-career move to the bullpen like Andrew Miller.
mitchladd
And I’m prepared to entertain offers from billionaires willing to give me enough money to buy the cardinals but that doesn’t seem likely, either.
Smacky
Send him back to the NL East so the Braves can pound on him like when he was in New York.
Mikenmn
Reminds one of the old Visa commercial where the actor says “my interest is piqued…..”
Champs64
Oh yea, another article about the Cardinals trying to get rid of players, or how they must cope with players not wanting to give up no trade clauses. What a exciting time to be a Cardinals fan. Still waiting for the article about them entertaining offers for the POBO.
Lanidrac
Um, this one is specifically about a player WITHOUT a no trade clause.
Champs64
So what. As I said,the article is literally about the Cardinals wanting to get rid of a player, regardless of their contract situation. Every article regardless of content must speak to the fact that Gray, Contreras, and Arenado have a no trade. Enjoy.
tmlmikey
I’d be curious to see if Jays go to Cards after missing out on Soto. Arenado, Matz and Helsley could be decent (even needed?) adds for Toronto.
metsin4
Matz for Jeff McNeil.
energel
Dont go to the pirates
LFGMets (Metsin7) #BannedForBeingABaseballExpert
If I had to put my money on it, Matz will be a SF Giant before the season starts. They need a lefty replacement for Snell in their rotation. With their reclamation projects like DeScalfani, Alex Wood, and Alex Cobb succeeding in recent years, this move would make the most sense
KnicksFanCavsFan
Arenando, Helsey and Matz for Schmidt, Stroman, Spencer Jones and one other prospect other than Dominguez, Rice or Durbin.
Cardinals have a great bunch of young position players. Hicks can go back to his normal position at 3b. Schmidt has 3 users of control left. I like Schmidt but I’m assuming the Yanks might go after a FA SP which could make Schmidt disposable altho he looks like he’s coming into his own. Stroman is owed about 1/$18 mil. The Cardinals save about a net $65.
Yanks get their 3b and closer. If Helsey had a great year, maybe they have an advantage to resign him.
Sound right or nah?