The Blue Jays are known to be in the Juan Soto bidding, but like all teams, they have to consider backup plans. Ben Nicholson-Smith of Sportsnet takes a look at their Soto pursuit and notes that they also have interest in Max Fried, Luis Severino, Anthony Santander and Alex Bregman. MLBTR has previously covered their interest in Fried and Santander.
Bregman, 31, is one of the top free agents available this winter. He has a career batting line of .272/.366/.483, which translates to a 135 wRC+, indicating he’s been 35% better than league average at the plate overall. His strikeout rate hasn’t been higher than 13.6% in any of the past six full seasons, barely half of league average. His walk rate dipped a bit in 2024 but has been above par for most of his career.
He also gets strong grades for his third base defense and is willing to move to second if he signs with a club that has a greater need there. His clubhouse and leadership qualities are often lauded by those who have played with him. MLBTR predicted Bregman for a seven-year deal worth $182MM at the start of the offseason. It’s well established that the Astros want him back, but he’s also been connected to the Tigers, Red Sox, Phillies and now Blue Jays.
For the Jays, third base and second base are both fairly unsettled. Ernie Clement was the primary option at the hot corner in 2024 and he had a serviceable season. His .263/.284/.408 batting line was slightly below average, translating to a 94 wRC+. But he also stole 12 bases and got strong grades for his glovework at third and shortstop, as well as brief looks at second base and left field.
The total package added up to 2.2 wins above replacement in the eyes of FanGraphs and Clement is still on the roster, but he shouldn’t stand in the way of someone like Bregman coming aboard. If Bregman took over as the everyday guy at the hot corner, it could move Clement into a utility role, which could still allow him to contribute fairly regularly.
At second base, Spencer Horwitz and Davis Schneider got decent chunks of the playing time, alongside the now-departed Isiah Kiner-Falefa. Horwitz has hit well in his major league career so far but is not a natural second baseman, only moving there since his first base spot is taken by Vladimir Guerrero Jr. A lot of the designated hitter plate appearances went to Justin Turner in 2024, who is no longer with the team. Perhaps that frees up Horwitz and Guerrero to share that spot and first base in 2025, depending on what other moves the Jays make this winter. Schneider is coming off a down season and can also play left field.
The Jays have some other players on the roster capable of playing either third or second base, including Addison Barger, Orelvis Martínez, Will Wagner and Leo Jiménez, but no one in that group has even 70 games of major league experience. With the Jays looking to quickly bounce back from a poor 2024 campaign, there’s logic in going for an established major leaguer like Bregman as opposed to hoping that someone in that group takes a step forward. The Jays have also been tied to shortstop Willy Adames, who is reportedly willing to move to third base with his new club if they already have a shortstop. The Jays have Bo Bichette at short but he’s only one year from free agency, so that’s a move that could potentially help in the short and long term.
The interest in Severino aligns with the club’s other rotation pursuits. As mentioned, they’ve been tied to Fried as well as Corbin Burnes and Blake Snell, though Snell is now off the board due to his agreement with the Dodgers. Severino once seemed like a budding ace with the Yankees but he didn’t pitch much from 2019 to 2021 due to injuries. He was able to pitch partial seasons in 2022 and 2023 but with inconsistent results.
He’s coming off a solid bounceback year with the Mets. He made 32 starts and tossed 182 innings, his first time throwing more than 102 innings since 2018. On top of the quantity, there was also some quality, as Severino allowed 3.91 earned runs per innings. His 21.2% strikeout rate, 7.9% walk rate and 46% ground ball rate were all pretty close to league average.
Severino isn’t as exciting as Burnes or Fried but he also won’t cost as much. MLBTR predicted Burnes for a $200MM guarantee and Fried a bit behind at $156MM. Severino, on the other hand, was projected for a three-year deal worth $51MM.
The Jays have a veteran rotation nucleus consisting of José Berríos, Kevin Gausman and Chris Bassitt. Another spot is likely ticketed to Bowden Francis after his strong second half. Options for the fifth spot include Yariel Rodríguez and Jake Bloss but there’s sense in the Jays adding. Rodríguez has plenty of relief experience and the Jays need help in the bullpen, so he could be pushed there, at least until an injury opens up a need in the rotation. Bloss has less than 12 big league innings and only 112 in the minors, so he could get some more seasoning in Triple-A until a big league opportunity arises.
On the financial side of things, RosterResource projects the Jays for a payroll of $189MM next year. President Mark Shapiro has suggested the club will end up with a roughly similar payroll as they did in 2024. Cot’s Baseball Contracts pegged their Opening Day figure at $225MM last year, so that could leave them with about $35MM of wiggle room.
Adding one of these notable free agents could certainly fit into that window, though Soto would be a unique case. The average annual value of his contract will certainly eclipse that number but it’s been reported by Nicholson-Smith that the Jays would make an exception for Soto, willing to stretch the budget further than they would otherwise.
Each of Soto, Bregman, Severino, Fried, Burnes, Santander and Adames rejected a qualifying offer, so the associated penalties will also have to be a consideration. The Jays seemingly ducked under the competitive balance tax in 2024 with their midseason selloff, though it’s not yet official. If that proves to be the case, the Jays would have to surrender their second-best pick in the upcoming draft as well as $500K of international bonus pool space for signing one of these players.
GoGreen
Happy Thanksgiving MLBTR!
Old York
Jays are going to be stacked. Soto, Bregman, Severino, Santander & Burnes.
NYCityRiddler
Here we go again with, “Blue Jays Interested In” Nobody wants to play in Canada…and can you blame them, it’s a sh!!hole. Ahahaha!
Dustyslambchops23
I’m sure these types of jokes make everyone laugh in your trailer park, must be the funniest guy there.
Patriot12992
@mysteryWhiteBoy, that is complete nonsense, whenever a women’s life is threatened you are allowed to save her life, every state in the union has those carve outs, get outta here with the propaganda.
Happy thanksgiving everyone.
danumd87 2
Actually it’s completely true. The carve outs are so ambiguously worded by the Republican domestic terrorist threat legislatures that doctors won’t act on them for fear of reprisal.
terrymesmer
Tell that to the doctors who are letting women die because they are afraid of being arrested. Tell that to the husbands.
Best Screenname Ever
A few years ago the median Canadian used to be as well off as the median Montanan. Not rich, but not too bad.
Now the median Canadian is as well-off as the median person in Alabama.
So it’s funny seeing Canadians mocking Alabama. Their economy is dead, their country is now overrun with immigrants burning down cities demonstrating in favour of Hamas, their Prime Minister is the biggest joke in the world, President Trump is hitting them with tariffs, and if they don’t start paying their share for defence, probably with sanctions. Hard to imagine a worse place for anybody to be than Canada
bestone
And they’re eatin’ their dogs! Fer gudness sake!
gomer33
Somebody has swallowed the FOX News and social media hook line and sinker. You are not well travelled to even type that last sentence.
C-Daddy
His wife (who also happens to be his first cousin) thought it was funny, so he figured he should share it here.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
“Overrun” with immigrants, is the funniest I’ve heard today. All we hear out of America is fear mongering over all the immigrants.
Guarantee you will not find a single Canadian, even the worst off Canadian who would prefer living in Alabama, even if they were offered a free lifestyle
Patriot12992
I’ll gladly tell it to anyone, the stories are verifiably false spread by activist doctors and a complicit media, not one women has died that way since roe was lifted.
Patriot12992
Every single one of those stories has been debunked.
Patriot12992
It’s insane talk like this that lost you the last election, you are literally just fear mongering.
Patriot12992
It is not fear mongering at all, you claim to care about violence against women, many women have died at the hands of criminal cartels crossing the border, not one because of overturn of roe, try using actual news sources.
Dustyslambchops23
This is such a bad comment sce because you would have said the same thing a few weeks ago but the US prior to the election.
I can tell you’ve never left the US if you think Canada is the worst place in the world, it’s ignorance and low iq like this that gives the US a bad name
Dustyslambchops23
Mystery white boy.
You’re fighting ignorance with ignorance. You sound no better than they do
johnnybadd2019
Are we talking abortion on a baseball site?
sfes
Wonderful Rudy reference there
metsin4
I guess you’ve never seen the amount of Canadian snow birds overrunning the southern states for half the year before they are forced to go back to Canada.
metsin4
Then live in California. No one is forcing anyone to live in Texas.
MoneyBallJustWorks
snowbirds have gone down for decades. it’s people who don’t want to deal with snow so they go to the southern us. and even if they love the us, why don’t they just move there fully?
MoneyBallJustWorks
@patriot12992 – Dems fear mongering? that’s rich.
yes they did talk about what would happen under Trump… and guess what, that’s going to happen. the GOP however uses fear as it’s catalyst. transgender, illegals, guns, abortion, crime, you name it, they will create fear and a bunch of Yahoo’s who claim to be tough as nails and willing to fight for the country but it out of fear.
Dustyslambchops23
Oh people in NY don’t go to Florida in the winter Metsin4??
Ignorant
metsin4
Because there are immigration laws.
metsin4
Are you obtuse? The conversation is nobody would want to live in Alabama. Of course people leave New York. I personally chose to move away from the Northeast to the Southeast because of the better living.
Patriot12992
@Moneyball, Dems literally just spent the last election cycle screaming at Americans that they will never vote again if Trump is elected. Democrats ran on nothing but “fascism” fear mongering and “women are dying because of republicans”. Crime and illegal immigration are actual real issues that are impacting Americans.
Best Screenname Ever
You’ve obviously not met my first cousin.
Best Screenname Ever
Can’t afford to. Their dollar is only worth 60 cents or so, and they can only do government jobs.
junior25
And NY City is any better????
Id take Toronto over NY any day of the week
The biggest tr0ll
Yeah, but you’re not a player. NY is the place to be. More money, winning teams, the city that never sleeps… honestly, NY has way much more to offer and it’s not even close. LA would be a similar gig as NY.
MoneyBallJustWorks
I’ll give you the money but when did the Yankees, knicks, rangers, jets last win?
hell even the giants play in NJ
KnicksFanCavsFan
@NYC tell me you’ve never been to Toronto without saying it.
letitbelowenstein
Annnd…cue the political/craigslist rants & raves-style comments. MLBTR needs to moderate or shut down a lot of these threads.
RussianFemboySportsFan!
@NYC
You live in New York….LOL…
The biggest tr0ll
I can see them getting Bregman but no way on Soto
hiflew
Don’t forget that they almost had Shohei before the Dodgers changed the game. Toronto has money to spend.
MoneyBallJustWorks
did they? or were they just used to drive up the $$$$.
hiflew
Either way, they had a big offer for him. That meant they had money to spend.
The biggest tr0ll
How do you know how close it was? Pretty sure no one touched the Dodgers
The biggest tr0ll
Are you the one that claimed Toronto would land Shohei last year? Because they argued me to death about it and were still wrong. Its not just the money, and even if it is, Toronto always falls short. They’re better off without him anyway. Dodgers gonna face some heat with all those aging contracts
hiflew
I know because it was reported here and elsewhere that Toronto was close to signing him before it fell apart and he signed with LA.
The biggest tr0ll
It was never going to happen
ny papi
I’m sure they’re all lined up on their own private jets as we speak
Bluejay4life
Yeah don’t forget they are extending Vlad and Bo. Lol
DarrenDreifortsContract
The Jays are 0-100 when it comes to recent top free agents.
Superstar Prospect Wander Javier
2-98. They did land Springer and Gausman.
Canuckleball
And Chris Bassitt
bigdaddyt
And BJ Ryan
Superstar Prospect Wander Javier
Been a few more than 100 noteworthy Free Agents in the last 20 years, my friend.
neo
And Roger Clemens
The biggest tr0ll
And those guys weren’t top players. The Blue Jays never get the top tier players… sad to say. how was Gausman this year? He had red flags since they signed him
terrymesmer
Free agent Marcus Semien finished 3rd in MVP voting as a Jay.
C-Daddy
@troll
Huh? Springer was arguably the most coveted free agent the year they signed him. Gausman has finished top 10 in Cy Young voting twice in the last three years, including finishing third in 2023. What red flags are you talking about?
JonCor
The guy literally goes by the name “the biggest troll”. Loser with nothing else going on. Save yourself the second it takes to read his comments and just mute him.
The biggest tr0ll
The fact that they call him an ace and he hasn’t once amassed 200 innings in a season. He’s part of the “really good,” but Toronto only has him because he is second to the guys like Phtani who they can’t seem to sign.
And yes, I’m always trolling, just not any more than anybody else, especially those who want to call me out without any substance in a post.
The biggest tr0ll
Maybe Springer but I don’t trust Gausman. And there’s guys out there like Soto and Shohei who are just better than Springer.
I’m not saying Toronto doesn’t sign good players or even really good players, they just don’t compete with the teams who sign the best players.
The biggest tr0ll
Gausman ended up okay stats wise but he struggled at times last year and has never reached 200 innings.
And you’re defending a guy who hit .220 last year. Time to sit down.
Superstar Prospect Wander Javier
He has not amassed 200 innings in a season. There’s been a total of 8 guys to do that in the last 2 seasons. He has however finished top 20 both seasons.
Tigers3232
@terry After finishing 3rd in MVP voting free agent Marcus Semien chose Rangers over Jay’s. Prior to 2021 he was coming off a down year where he was near top of a thin FA group and was stuck with a 1 yr prove himself deal.
I’m not saying it as a knock on the Jays. Toronto is an awesome city and I have had fun every time I’ve went. As far as MLB tho the top free agents that are in high demand are taking multi year deals elsewhere. It’s not an issue unique to TOR either, SF has had the same issues SEA, CHC, SEA, SD, DET, etc have all had these issues at some point.
What’s unfortunate for both TOR and SF they are currently willing to spend but players are usually opting for the teams who ve been dominating those divisions for quite some time.
SD acquired a ton of talent through trades and eventually became more appealing to FAs. In mid 2000’s Tigers had to over pay higher risk FAs such as Pudge, Magglio, aging Kenny Roger’s, etc.
TOR is a tough sell currently for FAs. They have the usual issue of being in a division with both NYY and BOS. Now there’s an O’s team loaded with young talent. SF has similar situation with LAD and SD. If top free agents can get same $ the teams more likely to contend are usually the preferred option.
The biggest tr0ll
He finished well last year but if I recall he struggled pretty badly up until the second half of the season.
Fever Pitch Guy
The – Don’t poke the polar bear. The Jays have massive financial resources, they used them in the 90s with much success, and they could use them again.
slider32
Agreed, the best thing you can do is not respond to comments that are absurd!
The biggest tr0ll
They have reapurces but seem to be second to Yankees, Mets, and Dodgers who steal all the big names
Tigers3232
If I was a free agent in my prime and the $ is equal, currently I’d b opting for Yankees or Dodgers over those in their division. Red Sox, Mets, Phillies, Orioles, Astros, and Braves would all be strongly considered as well.
Would be an interesting position to be in weighing options with any NL East or AL East teams for a FA. Strong cases could b made for 3 teams and you’d be opting for a pretty tough path through eirher DIV.
But sacrificing years of prime for equal $ going to TOR, TB, SF, and few others would be a tough sell I’d assume.
Fever Pitch Guy
Darren – Recent as in last 5 years?
Roark, Chatwood, Yamaguchi, Yates, Shaw, Dolis, Buchholz, Phelps, Galvis, Green, Kikuchi, Hudson, Garcia, Bassitt, Springer, Belt, Kiermaier, Ryu, Gausman, Semien and Ray to name a few.
MoneyBallJustWorks
Ray was a trade. that’s also a sad list for the most part
Fever Pitch Guy
Money – He became a free agent after the trade, look it up, 2020 transactions.
MoneyBallJustWorks
he became a FA after the season yes and they resigned him. he wasn’t an original FA pickup however.
Fever Pitch Guy
Money – I was replying to Darren’s post about free agents only, he insisted the Jays don’t sign them.
Ray was a free agent, any team could have signed him, but the Jays ended up doing it.
Either way, he was clearly wrong. Just because the Dodgers, Mets and Yankees sign a lot of free agents doesn’t mean the Jays don’t sign any.
Best Screenname Ever
Roark was great!
(For their opponents.)
TheRickestRick
My god
Roark was horrible as a Jay
Best Screenname Ever
Toronto is a perfect landing spot for Bregman. He’s headed sharply into decline with his career .366 OBP falling to .315 in 2024 and his career .848 OPS falling to .768. His decline looks like it will be steep and and only a short time to being unplayable, where Springer is now, so a multi-year mega deal from Toronto seems par for the course.
letitbelowenstein
Mainly the taxes. Few people want to lose three times the amount they lose in America on taxes.
Fever Pitch Guy
Let – The 40% exchange rate more than makes up for it though.
greg1
No doubt it is always nice to add another starting pitcher, but if I was Jays management, I would rather bring in two bats/position players in Santandar and Bregman.
Moonlight Graham
Agreed. And as mentioned in the article, the bullpen needs an upgrade. So instead of sinking a bunch of money into a starter, go get two shutdown relievers, which will make an already-decent rotation a bit better.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
Unless they are thinking about beyond 25. Bass it is a free agent and they will need a replacement for him in 26, maybe it makes more sense to get a top of rotation starter now instead of next year.
MoneyBallJustWorks
they can’t think about 2026 right now. this FO doesn’t have a 2026 with this team if they don’t at least compete in 2025.
bats and bullpen are the way to go. they do need a #5 at minimum but they will likely see where their trade acquisitions from last year are.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
Or they can replace the top of rotation this year with an eye toward both 2025 and 2026. What a crazy thought
pete toms
I think vierling is a good fit for jays at 3B. With Kieth at 2nd, jung seems destined for 3rd (chime in tigers fans). Yes, I’m bored, waitin for football. Happy thanksgiving our American friends and neighbours
Canuckleball
Vierling would be a downgrade at 3rd for the Jays. He’s a little better then Clement with the bat, but Clement was a worthy finalist for the gold glove at 3rd. Vierling was a -2 DRS at third this year and a career -4.
MoneyBallJustWorks
vierling would give them some positional flexibility which they do like
84LeFlore
I don’t think Jung is destined for the Tigers. They have to improve their infield.
Keith is at 2B for the foreseeable future — 2025 at least. At SS, it sure sounds like they’re going with a Sweeney/Javy platoon to start 2025.
That leaves 3B and 1B, and who are they gonna keep? I think they give Tork one more shot and send JJ back to the minors to season some more, and may trade at some point, since they need more RH balance.
In the interim, a RH vet with some pop will likely be obtained. Bregman? I think he’s going to want too much $ and too many years for Harris. Plus, his numbers, already in decline, would go down even more in Comerica, not exactly a fit for his skill set.
Dogbone
I think many of these teams that come up short on Bregman (particularly as a 2B), should call the Cubs regarding Nico Hoerner. Nico would be a much cheaper option – but a quality option, less the power.
seamaholic 2
His arm is seriously injured and no one is going to offer what he’s worth until they know he can play in the field.
draker
So aside from Burnes, Snell, Bregman, Santander, Soto, Severino, Adames and Fried the Jays aren’t really interested in anyone. Watch them re-up IKF and call it a day
BigV
IKF plays for the Pirates
MoneyBallJustWorks
give it 48 hours and they will be interested in Hernandez, Alonso, Rizzo, Torres, Arrenado, Helsley, Scott, Estevez, O’Neill, Pederson, etc .
NoSaint
@MoneyBallJustWorks
You forgot to add Mantle and Ruth.
Daryl Pauley
Jays are going to be the turkey again this year. It’s just not enough.
pete toms
Agreed. If atkins has about $35 mill to spend, not remotely enough to make them playoff contender. Atkins won’t have fire sale cause he hasn’t the job security. That’s the bigger problem, commit to Atkins/shapiro or move on.
MoneyBallJustWorks
move on. DO NOT commit to those two bozos
pete toms
Moving on is my preference also. Jays record developing players under Atkins stinks. Ownership needs make a decision. IE they just hired a new amateur scouting director. Do the best qualified take a job knowing the person who hired them could be gone in a year (obviously rhetorical)
MysteryWhiteBoy13
So Kiermaier back again
Canuckleball
Glad he retired so they couldn’t do that.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
Offer enough money and you never know
mad1
Must be November as Ben Nicholson smith rumors for the jays are plentiful. Of course none of these players would actually want to play in Toronto
bestone
Who’d want to play in Toronto….everything is going to be 25% more…
ellisburks
Yeah, that’s not how tariffs work. It would be more expensive to buy things imported from Canada that you would buy in the States. Right now if you go to Canada your money is worth more so you can buy more in Canada with American dollars. The two main reasons players don’t like to sign with Canadian teams are our taxes and going through customs for every away game.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
I assume they would be nexus members
The biggest tr0ll
It all washes out to about the same in the end I’m sure
Stealing Signs
Customs!?
Bro, they’re on chartered flights & breeze through customs.
bestone
The Jays will have to leave a quarter of the team home…
Best Screenname Ever
And the fans. When David Wells wrote a book, he talked about why he hated playing there and the fans not having a clue was one of the things he mentioned.
TheRickestRick
But Boomer took the World Series ring didn’t he.
stymeedone
No, it will be more in the US. US Tariffs are paid by the importer.
bestone
Absolutely correct!…
grant77
The 25% tariffs are a tax on American consumers. It doesn’t affect prices in Canada at all.
bestone
Yes…
Samuel
grant77;
LOL
Only if Americans buy the Canadian product.
When the Jays play in an American city no fan is paying 25% more for a ticket.
You kids are funny, but this one has me bent over in laughter.
grant77
The reason why Americans purchase certain Canadian products is because they are cheaper and/or of better quality. It’s the same reason why Canadians buy American products,
Americans will ostensibly be left with a choice between the more expensive Canadian product or a lesser quality and expensive product from elsewhere. It’s going to hurt American consumers badly in the short term. The hope of tariffs is that it will eventually increase production in the country implementing the tariffs, but that’s a really long term goal.
jdgoat
Bestone, that’s not how the tariff system works. It impacts Canadians because in theory it will lower the amount of product going across the border, leading to a decrease in revenue. It will be American consumers that end up footing the 25% tariff once they buy the end product.
The biggest tr0ll
I can see Bregman signing with the Blue Jays but not Soto. Blue Jays always second tier
Digdugler
Jays have $30M to work with and have 4 starters and maybe 2 relievers. they are cooked.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
Jays have as much money as the owner is willing to spend. They could go far into the tax this year and easily reset next year.
Digdugler
They wont, they never have and Shapiro stated payroll will be about the same as last year. Unless they get Soto (they wont), I expect he was not lying.
MysteryWhiteBoy13
They have been paying the tax the past 3 years. Are you new
❤️ MuteButton
Did the Blue Jays not learn anything from signing George Springer?
RussianFemboySportsFan!
@Mute
George springer has only had one season below a 100 OPS+
He’s just getting older, hes been great with the jays, he’s just starting to slow down.
CTS4
The 2 Cleveland Clowns are still here. The Nightmare in Toronto continues….My Oh My….
Sk8
Bregman and Severino might sign with the Jays. They are attainable free agents, unlike Soto. I’d prefer Severino over Bregman, though. Look how poorly the Springer signing went. I can see the same happening with Bregman.
MoneyBallJustWorks
Story: Blue Jays, like many clubs interested in many players.
MoneyBallJustWorks
updated story: Blue Jays fans freak out thinking they will land all these players and create super team
Miken31
As a Mets fan, who watched Severino a lot last year, I really appreciate the season he had. He stayed far healthier than anyone ever could’ve imagined. The guy didn’t miss a start. And he got off to a terrific start, but as the season went on he showed himself to be a very dependable starter without a very high ceiling. That’s pretty much the exact opposite he’s been in his career where he’s been less dependable in terms of health, but a very high ceiling when he does pitch. I really could not see giving the guy more than a one or two year contract. I just wouldn’t trust him to stay healthy after all the innings he pitched last year and I also don’t see a pitcher with a very high ceiling at this point. He’s a fairly decent number three starter at best at this point. And I would be afraid to trust him healthwise.
Yossi Ronnen
I mean, they just have to fix second base, third base, LF, CF (until Varsho returns), possibly RF, the bullpen, the back of the rotation, and a backup catcher.
That’s all, what’s the fuss?
Rsox
Signs of the seasons changing from Fall to Winter:
Falling leaves
Colder temperatures
Shorter daylight hours
The Blue Jays being interested in everyone…
Mynameisnoname
Come here for the linked Bregman and Sevy news and find a triggered Canadian and random abortion talk. Good times.
mlbnyyfan
Blue Jay’s interested in everyone but how many actually want to play in Toronto? They may have to seriously over pay
Captainmike1
It would be foolish to give a 7 year deal to Bregman
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”
There is a very long list of disaster contracts just like Bregman wants
How about Josh Donaldson as just one example
Lindor's Bodyguard
I was thinking George Springer. Jays have not finished paying for his decline.
nosake
They want Bregman but let Chapman slip from their fingers. Makes no sense.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
I think they tried to extend Chapman when he played there but they lowballed him and he said no way.
kenly0
Zero chance Bregman signs with Toronto
Bluejay4life
According to Ben Nicolson Smith the Jays only have 40 million to spend this year so hopefully these Guys all come cheep lmao
OilCanLloyd
I still think Adames gives you the most bang for your buck. now, and in the future at SS. 6/150M.
KamKid
The Blue Jays love this player type. But I don’t really see them adding a 31 year old on a 6 or 7 year deal at an AAV that is basically three quarters of their budget for the coming season. It won’t leave enough budget room to add their other needs for next year and he’s not exactly a future building block type. Unless his market just doesn’t develop as hoped but then I’d just see him going back to the Astros.
bestone
Heading into December, and no significant signings, trades or at least confirming that Vladdie is a Jay longer than eleven months.
The Jays org seems to be doing a better job at hiring stadium ushers…at least they’ve shown a pulse there…
Instead of the team showing interest, why not get the fans interested?
slider32
The Jays will start their rebuild soon, along with the Sox. Right now the window is open for the O’s and Yanks. The Rays are in limbo, and need to move to a new location where they can have their own fan base at games. As much heat that Cashman takes he is the only one that has kept his team contending yearly!
brucenewton
Make or break offseason for that front office I’d presume. Their fans seem upset.
cencal
Makes me sick that Bregman is going to get a huge payday when he should have been banned and forever shamed.
bestone
There’s a lot of that going on these days….felons getting free passes….i guess cheaters do win after all….
CGG12
The cheaters lost and the soon to be felons will be apprehended in give or take 50 days. It’s a great time to be alive, bestone.
jdgoat
Imo it would have been a bad idea to ban half the league
Mario93
This front office is going to ruin this organization for another 5-8 years. Their job is on the line so they wanna add to a team that’s desperate for a rebuild. It’s pathetic…
BabyBoyBlueDiamond
Nice to see Toronto is at least %¥£€ing interested in getting better. Unlike my Mariners who love swimming in the lake of mediocrity high stop the mountain peaks of futility. My lord… what I wouldn’t give for an ownership that actually wanted to pull themselves out of the gutter and produce a real winning franchise.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Quit being so cringe. First of all the Mariners are far from being in the gutter and have been ONE WIN from the playoffs the last two years. They spend money i.e. signing Robbie Ray, Castillo, JRod to long contracts. Jerry has had abysmal luck trading for or signing hitters who suddenly flounder at T-Mobile. There are far worse franchises to be fans of and I like the Mariners chances in 2025 over Toronto’s but please be my guest and go flock to the BJ’s cuz fans like you are annoying as hell.
wvsteve
What direction are the blue jays going? Probably the weirdest chemistry of any MLB team
slider32
The biggest problem the Jays have is they are in a division that has teams that are competitive and usually are all in trying to win.. GMs are always going to miss on some players, The Jays just missed their window! The Red Sox look like the next team trying to make a big move!
bestone
Aside from being in the ALEast, shouldn’t all teams be “all in” to try to win?
Just thinking that winning team brings in more cash…unless you are the Jays….then seasons ticket sales to companies and suits is the goal….
JoeBrady
shouldn’t all teams be “all in” to try to win?
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It is a mathematical certainty that not all teams can be in the race.
Assuming that a team is not in a mega market, the smart move is to choose the timing of when you are going to compete.
whyhayzee
Pretty funny to hear the comments about Canada and their median income compared to the US. The problem with comparisons is simply that Canadians aren’t obsessed with material possessions the way Americans are. You won’t see the ridiculous house-sized gas guzzling vehicles up there the way you do here in America. And you won’t see the endless rows of McMansions up there the way you do in America. You won’t see the grid lock traffic of lawn maintenance company vehicles up there like you do here in America. They do way more of the outdoors work for themselves and don’t pay ridiculous money for cheap labor to trim their lawns and blow their flotsam into the street. And they exercise outside, what a concept. Not wasting your money joining some fitness club where you can waste two hours of your day doing 10 minutes worth of exercise under the watchful eyes of your trainer. When it comes to taking care of your money and your health, Canada crushes America. But hey, America has nice couches that you can buy cheap and then throw into a landfills. So maybe it’s not so bad after all.
maxmilna
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA. Lmao but it’s Canada.
JoeBrady
and don’t pay ridiculous money for cheap labor to trim their lawns
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Hiring cheap labor is what drives the world’s economy.
Past that, you’re right. The number of excuses I read about, for not exercising, is crazy. I mow my own grass and shovel my snow. I will add a layer of wax after a car wash. It’s good to be outside.
Kennedy might be a little crazy, but the US is in the throes of a healthcare epidemic. Americans spend like 4-5 hours a day watching TV, instead of 4 hours with the TV, and one hour outside exercising..
bestone
Jr. might seem a bit crazy…but if you dig into where he’s coming from, his info is based on sound data. Problem is, he’s fighting big pharma, and the food industry that has a lot to lose…so they pile on the $ to keep their profits. But that seems too political for this baseball chat.
Just keep moving…yer body will reward you when you get old.
whyhayzee
JoeBrady, my problem is that the same people who employ the cheap labor are the first ones to scream “Build the wall”. I’ve seen and heard it more times than I can count. They want to make money off of these underpaid people so they can keep up with the Joneses.
And Kennedy is more than a little crazy. Honestly, there are lots of people who know how to deal with the healhcare epidemic but the US has insisted on monetizing everythng humanly possible. So we wind up with a bunch of used car salesmen in charge.
The new cabinet is nothing more than a clown car. They want to deport millions so they can monetize immigration. Then they can make money off of people wanting to come to this country. It’s the “solution” to every political “problem”.
Our economy will be in the crapper within the next two years.
maxmilna
Yes! Please get that cheater out of the country.
Drasco0366
It’s crazy how much worse Bregman got after the Astros stopped cheating.
JoeBrady
Let someone other than the RS sign him. He’ll be 31 when the season starts and starting his slow decline. He should be good for a couple of seasons, and then the decline gets more precipitous.
Max I’d go on him is 5 years. He bears a resemblance to Springer irt his age and talent. It should look good for two years, but mother nature is undefeated.
Dice 66
Why? Need pitching! They have enough offensive!
Hank Murphy
Juan Soto, a player that just signed the richest contract in baseball history with the Toronto Blues professional baseball club. He is about to step foot on an airplane, one destined for Toronto, but with one unscheduled stop…in the Twilight Zone.