With the Angels’ recent signing of left-hander Yusei Kikuchi to a three-year deal now officially announced, GM Perry Minasian spoke yesterday to reporters (including Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register) about the club’s 2025 rotation and their plans for the rest of the winter.
Of note, Minasian suggested that with the addition of Kikuchi and fellow offseason addition Kyle Hendricks to the club’s rotation mix, the Angels currently have those two veterans, Tyler Anderson, and Jose Soriano penciled into the first four spots in their rotation for 2025. Notably, that leaves left-hander Reid Detmers fighting for a spot in the rotation alongside less established arms like Chase Silseth and Jack Kochanowicz. 2024 was a brutal season for Detmers, as the lefty surrendered a disastrous 6.70 ERA across 17 big league starts.
Weak as that production was, however, Detmers’s underlying metrics suggest his performance may have been slightly better than it looks on paper. His 27.9% strikeout rate was actually the best of his career, while his 9.7% walk rate was certainly elevated, but more or less in line with his 2023 performance. Detmers’s 4.72 FIP was “just” 13% worse than league average by measure of FIP-, and some metrics were even more bullish on his underlying numbers. His 3.86 xFIP was actually 6% better than league average, and a 3.77 SIERA actually places Detmers 43rd among 138 starting pitchers who threw at least 80 innings out of the rotation this past season.
While underlying metrics that compared Detmers to Corbin Burnes (3.75 SIERA) and Gerrit Cole (3.79 SIERA) in 2024 certainly don’t tell the whole story by themselves, they do provide enough optimism about Detmer’s future that it’s a surprise to hear he isn’t guaranteed a rotation spot next year. After all, the lefty posted a solid 4.15 ERA and 3.97 FIP across 53 starts in 2022 and ’23, and is just a few years removed from being the Halos’ first-round draft pick when they selected tenth overall in 2020. With that being said, it’s easy to imagine Detmers’s performance after coming back to the majors back in September raising red flags in the front office’s mind. While he struck out an eye-popping 34.2% of opponents in five starts down the stretch, he also struggled badly with the long ball, surrendering 8 homers and an untenable 15.6% barrel rate.
Minasian also didn’t rule out making further additions to the club’s rotation. “We’ll continue to look, from a free agent standpoint, from a trade standpoint,” he said, as relayed by Fletcher. “If there’s an upgrade, from a rotation standpoint, we’ll look to do it.”
With that being said, it seems as though upgrades to the rotation may take a backseat to upgrading other areas of the roster as the Angels look ahead to the remainder of the winter. Specifically, Minasian noted that they’d like to add depth to their bench and bullpen while focusing on lengthening the lineup with another bat. The club has already added Jorge Soler as an everyday DH and Travis d’Aranud poised to act as a backup to Logan O’Hoppe behind the plate, but holes remain in a lineup that posted just a 90 wRC+ that was 25th in baseball last year.
Nolan Schanuel, Luis Rengifo, and Zach Neto figure to have regular roles on the infield, with Schanuel in particular seemingly locking up first base. Neto is sure to be the everyday shortstop when healthy, but he could miss the start of the season after going under the knife earlier this month. Kevin Newman and Scott Kingery have already been brought in to shore up the club’s infield depth on the bench, but another infield bat could help lessen the club’s reliance on oft-injured Anthony Rendon while also backing up Neto early in the season.
There’s also room in the outfield for another bat. Taylor Ward figures to be the club’s everyday left fielder, and Mike Trout will of course be an everyday player in the outfield when healthy enough to take the field. Mickey Moniak and Jo Adell currently figure to platoon in right field when everyone’s healthy, but upgrading that spot in the lineup could improve the roster, particularly if the addition was capable of playing center at least occasionally to lessen the defensive workload on Trout.
One other possibility Fletcher floats is the Angels considering a trade of Anderson. Anderson came up in the rumor mill ahead of the trade deadline over the summer, but no deal ultimately came together as the Angels reportedly preferred to hold onto players controlled beyond the 2024 season. Given that hesitance just a few months ago, it’s unclear if trading Anderson is something the Halos would seriously consider this winter, and it would hardly be a surprise to see him stay put.
The veteran southpaw is entering the final year of his contract with the Angels in 2025 following a decent season in 2024 where he posted a solid 3.81 ERA despite lackluster peripherals. Even if clubs project him to post numbers closer to his 4.66 FIP and and 4.37 xERA next year, his ability to eat innings (179 1/3 frames across 31 starts in 2024) could make him an attractive back-of-the-rotation candidate to teams in need of pitching and a deal would clear the final year and $13MM of his contract off on the Angels’ books to address other areas of the roster.
Of course, moving Anderson would be a step backwards in terms of depth for an Angels club that has already parted ways with Griffin Canning and Patrick Sandoval this winter. Removing Anderson from the club’s rotation would leave them with Kikuchi, Hendricks, Soriano, and Detmers as their front four starters with Kochanowicz, Silseth, and depth options like Sam Aldegheri in the mix for the fifth spot. With that being said, it’s at least plausible the club could listen to offers on him if they were to land a third external starter to join Kikuchi and Hendricks in the Anaheim rotation next year, whether that be in trade or free agency.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Would be an angels thing to do to sell low on detmers and then becomes an all star on the braves
juggernaut
They can resign Griffen Canning since the Braves released him, and now he’s a Free Agent. They know him, so it would make sense to sign him to a lesser contract than he would have had before they traded him.
King Floch
The Angels are the American League version of the Rockies. They are always expecting to contend but never actually do, and they also always refuse to tear it down and start over no matter how bad things get.
I don’t really get it but I kind of respect it.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
How can you respect horrible owners making teams bad
This one belongs to the Reds
As God is his witness, he thought turkeys could fly.
sascoach2003
Watched the episode today, like every Thanksgiving. A classic.
i like al conin
They did basically start a rebuild last year.
seamaholic 2
Rengifo played more third than second last year. Just cut the bleeding with Rendon, pay him off to retire, which he will gladly do. Find a 2B who can hit a little. Gleyber Torres would look good.
El Kabong
Rendon’s remaining contract calls for two years and more than $77 million. There’s no chance he will give that up. Whether the Angels keep or release him, he’ll still be on the payroll for both years.
Kk 4
Please trade Detmers. That guy has the floor of a #3 starter in any competent org. Poor dude is wasting away in LA
i like al conin
Are you Reid Detmers?
HalosHeavenJJ
The franchise really needs Detmers to pitch to his potential.
It’s also nice to see guys like Caden Dana and George Klassen on the horizon. It’s been a long while since the Angels had sone young arms to dream in a bit.
Hopefully sone young guys get some development time then replace Anderson and Hendricks in the the second half of the season.
energel
Idk why the angels think they can upgrade a 63-99 team with a whole bunch of mid players at best
mikeyny
Kike Hernandez would be a great pick up for the Angels. Can fill in for Neto to start the season and spell Trout in CF. Insurance for Rendon as well.
johncoltrane
Kochanowiz 6.70 era, detmer 6.70 era, hendrick 5.92 era
Trout hasnt played a full season since obama was president
angels might challenge whitesox 121 L
i like al conin
Kochanowicz had a 3.99 ERA and pitched really well the last couple months.
johncoltrane
I meant silseth
Alexpulido7051 2
Having a new GM and coach every other year has really hurt the Angels over the long run. The team needs to keep Minasian as GM, & let him continue building the team with his type of coaches and players, from the Major league team all the way down to Rookie Ball. Winning will cure all the current trash talking of the Angels system.
ClevelandSteelEngines
Arte Moreno bought the rights to Mike Trout from Lucius Needful and the side effect was a perpetually missing the playoffs and unsuccessfully improving the team no matter who or what he did!
cr4
Detmers needs to get out of Anaheim at this point. He still has a ton of upside and it’s becoming apparent he’s not going to fulfill it with the Angels