11:18am: ESPN’s Jesse Rogers reports that Cardinals bench coach Daniel Descalso is also out of the running in Chicago.
11:05am: Former Marlins manager Skip Schumaker, who won National League Manager of the Year honors with Miami in 2023, is no longer being considered by the White Sox in their ongoing managerial search, per Jim Margalus and James Fegan of Sox Machine.
It’s not clear whether Schumaker removed his own name from consideration or whether the Sox moved on, either due to fit or asking price. Regardless, the report largely eliminates the possibility of Schumaker leading a new dugout in 2025. His former Marlins club and the Reds (who hired Terry Francona earlier this month) marked the only other managerial vacancies of the offseason (barring an unexpected late decision from another club or a surprise shakeup in the Bronx or L.A. following the World Series).
Even without an immediate managerial opening that makes sense for Schumaker, he’ll have no trouble finding work if he’s open to other roles. He served as a bench coach in St. Louis prior to being hired in Miami, and he’s also held the titles of associate manager and first base coach with the Padres. Schumaker would surely have his pick of coaching roles as teams round out their staffs ahead of the 2025 season, and given his baseball acumen and the manner in which he’s regarded as a coveted managerial prospect, it stands to reason that there are clubs that would welcome the opportunity to add Schumaker in a player development or baseball operations capacity while he bides his time and waits for an appealing managerial opportunity to surface.
Schumaker’s subtraction from the Sox’ list of candidates leaves Guardians bench coach Craig Albernaz, Dodgers bench coach Danny Lehmann, Cardinals bench coach Daniel Descalso, Rangers associate manager Will Venable, former Angels manager Phil Nevin and current interim manager Grady Sizemore as the current list of known candidates still in the running for the position. Rangers bench coach Donnie Ecker was removed from consideration last week, while Dodgers first base coach Clayton McCullough and Padres special assistant A.J. Ellis were taken off the list over the weekend. Tigers bench coach George Lombard is also out of the running as of last night.
I wondering what made them wonder if he was a good fit anyways. The fact he was a horrible manager who didn’t have his grip on the clubhouse from day 1 and that he would be a perfect fit for a such a dismal franchise
It’s a polite why of skip saying hell no to the job
Candidates are dropping like flies.
Just like in the Sox outfield, Bone. Sox future is in the young pitching they have stockpiled. I said it before that if Counsell walks away from Hottovy that this would be a perfect starter job for him. Sox need a manager who knows pitching and there wouldn’t be ( Or shouldn’t anyway), Be a ton of pressure to win right away. He wouldn’t even have to move.
Ya never know. But I really doubt that Getz would hire someone from the Cubs organization – Getz I think might be afraid of crossing that bridge.
Remember, don’t underestimate how much chairman Reinsdorf totally despises the Cubs.
Which is why he’s moron. He might be a rich moron but he’s still incompetent. Or incoherent. Who cares where you find the perfect guy for the job as long as you find him?
Yeah, he had such a horrible “grip on the clubhouse” that he led a team who had no business being over .500 to the playoffs last season.
Omg they were 2 games over 500 and made the playoffs as a 20 seed in a 30 team league. I mention the name Sixto Sanchez to him and he just starts shoving his bad taste tattoos in my face
You’re referencing the 2020 Marlins led by Mattingly. I’m talking about the 2023 Marlins that made the playoffs as the 6 seed in Schumaker’s first season (this year being his second), winning 84 games with a team who had the ninth lowest win total odds prior to the season beginning.
Buddy my fault I forget skip was the manager in 2023. Honestly it was just him taking over a pretty good team that Mattingly had built up. They played decent in 2023 thanks to guys like Luis Arraez and Sandy Alcantara. I’m just saying you don’t see a lot of teams firing their manager the way they did and from the outside at the time it seemed like a no brainer
I agree that they were supposed to take a step forward, but again, they had the 9th lowest win total odds for 2023. They were coming off a 69-93 record in 2022. Adding 15 wins to finish 84-78 is the sign of a manager who is doing things right in the clubhouse. Alcantara was their 4th best SP by results last year BTW while Fortes, Yuli, Wendle, Segura, and Berti all received over 300 PA. Chisholm got hurt, Cooper got hurt, I think Skip deserves a little more respect.
Let’s just put it this way; if Skip Schumaker is as good of a manager as he was a player, I don’t think he does :/
@chem
Sorry Chem, but that is nonsense. The change in the FO was the catalyst for his exit, not his ability. Given that Bendix has had the night of the long knives & lost 70% of his coaching staff, it seems prudent for SS (irony) to ensure his own exit…
Why don’t u stick to golf or soccer
They’re just waiting for La Russa to sober up long enough to put pen to paper. Tony, he’s our boy! Ahahahaha!
Skip probably said no thanks to the job. It’s cool, this isn’t a great time to be working for the White Sox right now. The team is being possibly sold, so that’s not great job security for starters.
I think it might actually be a decent time to manage the White Sox, at least compared to their recent history. Kenny/Hahn are gone. They have firmly decided on a rebuild. Perhaps Jerry has learned a little lesson about meddling too much in baseball affairs. The expectations are extremely low.
Maybe a decent opportunity for a guy with little or no experience managing.
Getz needs to prove he knows what he’s doing. He’s not exactly on solid ground either.
A new owner might well clean house.
The White Sox are NOT being sold. It’s just JR trying to get a new stadium. It’s standard practice.
Again, the White Sox are not being sold.
Jerry would never learn from anything in the near past. To think he might shows a lack of knowledge of Jerry Reinsdorf.
Perfect time for a guy with no experience who will work for cheap. So White Sox.
Where else is he gonna go?
Put alot on the Yankees winning it with a bookie based on someone’s advice (doesn’t seem like the type who would be interested in negotiating if the Yankees lose). Please say it was still the right move.
You should have never listened to your interpreter.
“Winning it with a bookie”..Hopefully, you at least went to High school with the bookie. That way, when it comes time for him to break something, he’ll go for your arm and not your legs, ribs and not the dreaded cutting off of a thumb to send a message.
Are they waiting for Connie Mack to rise from his grave and take the gig?
Already did the zombie manager thing with LaRussa.
Wish the Cards would give Skip the Bench Coach job and slide him into the big seat as soon as Marmol gets fired. Skip did impressive work with the Marlins, showed a lot of loyalty to the club and his original GM; he seems like a perfect fit for the Cardinals. But at this point, I’m Team Anyone But Oli.
Yes, take a demotion on a rebuilding club. He’ll have his choice of any of the jobs out there. This would make no sense.
AirGuitar721
That may well be in the works.
Oli will follow Mozeliak out the door next year; don’t ya think? Maybe Schumaker will sit out until then.
Descalso and Schumaker are both out? They must be disqualifying anybody who has ever been in the same room as TLR.
They’re too young to have ever been BFFs with Jerry Reinsdorf.
The White Sox are like that company on LinkedIn promoting an available job offering $70k a year for a role where the industry average is $100k, but they brag that they have a ping pong table in the break room and unlimited PTO to make up for it.
It’d be nice to see whatever new hire start using their PTO on Game 1 of the season, with a shot of him in the stands wearing a Fisk jersey and chowing down on a dog.
People locally have been saying for 2 weeks that it will be Venable, that he has been front-runner all along.
Alan53;
That seems right. But the issue is: Would he take the job?
Frankly, the Catch-22 is would anyone that looks like a potential successful ML manager want to get involved with a situation like that……
A screwball owner. An unproven GM. Have maybe 2-3 players on the ML roster that are marketable. Need 3-4 years to begin to build a farm system and get a few decent players out of it. The owner floats out that he might be selling……so he either gets a new park – which takes at least 5 years to finance, design get approvals and build – or he moves to another city.
Yjkes!
Got “Career Killer” written all over it.
I think he’d take it, unless he knows Bochy is going to retire after 2025 and the Rangers job has been promised to him as of 2026….As for the White Sox situation, it isn’t good, but it’s not quite as bad as the picture you paint. The farm system, for one thing, is considerably farther along than you suggest. Getz has gotten some promising kids in the last year, and many of them are pretty far along.
I’ll ask it again. Where else is he gonna go? Be as specific as possible.
This doesn’t seem to be a reply to my post. Did you mis-place it?
Got “Career Killer” written all over it.
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You haven’t listed any of the positives.
1-You almost automatically improve over 2024. The law of averages suggests that either of us would win more games.
2-They have at least a little bit of minor league talent.
3-They have no one on payroll in 2026 except Benni. The owner could get cheap and still have $75M to spend.
This feels like when Kim Ng declined to interview with the RS, even though they had one of the best farms in BB, and some expiring contracts. All the signs were trending up.
We have an aging manager and perhaps the makings of a de why young core.
It would be smart to bring someone in who could take over in 2 years if that core develops.
Autocorrect killed me.
Possibly a young core. Might be smart to bring in Skip with the understanding he gets to help create then lead that core.
Who is part of this young core?
Neto, O’hoppe, Soriano, with Kochanowicz, Joyce, and Dana as hopefuls.
I think that means they both also turned the job down.
Think you’re right lol. Skip especially probably just using it to get the rust off with the ole interview skills.
Bill Belichick to Jerry Reinsdorf: “I’ll do it if I can also be the defacto GM.” Reinsdorf: “My secretary will be sending over the $200K contract shortly.”
Skip is coming back to the Padres for a year until a job he wants opens up.
Good for skip. He can do better.
That’s what I came here to say…
I could be the manager :3
Skip should get the cards job.
Carlos Beltran.
Mr.Reinsdorf please sell the team. Terrible brand of baseball from ownership to low minors. ask the Southside.
I’m Southside. Sell now or have an eternal long sleep you never wake up from. Free Chicago of yourself asap!
That’s just cruel.
With these candidates withdrawing it makes me wonder if word is circulating that there is no guarantee Reinsdorf is selling the team in the near future.
Seems like it will either be Sizemore or Nevin
They must’ve gotten a whiff of of Reinsdork and how he runs things without any one knowing what or how to do things
Lloyd McClendon. He’ll light a fire where it’s needed.
Agree
Lou Brown or even Phil Brickma, he has Chicago roots.
This “managerial search” should tell Getz something: NOBODY WANTS THIS STINKING JOB!
ventura, Renteris, or montoya
As a Cardinal fan, I want only good things for Daniel Descalso…managing the White Sox, though a good jump in jobs titles, does not seem like the best use of his talents.
Andrew Benintendi for player-manager!
He’ll never live up to that contract as a player so might as well ask him to expand his role and contribute elsewhere. Jerry saves some money and Andrew gets some valuable experience for when he retires. Win- win.
Just kidding. Kinda. Ok not really.
Buck got the gig if he wants it.
Headline should be 2 lucky guys shunned by white sox.
As Ive correctly predicted in every White Sox managerial thread, it’s too dangerous of a job for them to fill.
With no jobs left (he is not going back to Miami), Skip is skipping being a manager for a year.
Mr Schumaker would be welcome at the Astros. The incumbent manager is drowning in his own incompetence.
The White Sox ??? Team is pathetic. Minor leagues not much better. Owner is a huge negative. Stadium situation is lousy. GM is without much expertise or track record of success. I am not interested either.
White Sox are not going to compete for a long time. I don’t see any reason Grady Sizemore can’t continue the job. Let Sizemore grow and get experience with the youth in Chicago just surround Sizemore with experienced coaches who may not necessarily want to be a manager but love what they do.
The only way this team is going to draw fans is by having a loud unfiltered media manager. Ozzie/AJ or some personality like that who will get in players faces for not hustling etc. if I could have my wish I’d fire Getz and make Joe Maddon GM/MGR.
I’m thinking they’ve already made their decision and just not announcing it yet until the series is over (as is traditional).