The Phillies won 87 games in 2022 and lost the World Series, won 90 games in 2023 and lost the NLCS, and then won 95 games and the NL East title this season but lost to the Mets in the NLDS. This mixture of progression and decline is becoming increasingly frustrating to a team built to win now, though with so much payroll already committed, president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski might have to get creative in fixing some roster weaknesses.
Guaranteed Contracts
- Trea Turner, SS: $245,454,546 through 2033
- Bryce Harper, 1B: $170MM through 2031
- Aaron Nola, SP: $147,428,571 through 2030
- Zack Wheeler, SP: $126MM through 2027
- Nick Castellanos, OF: $40MM through 2026
- Taijuan Walker, SP: $36MM through 2026
- J.T. Realmuto, C: $23.875M through 2025
- Cristopher Sanchez, SP: $20.5MM through 2028 (includes $1MM buyout of $14MM club option for 2029; Phillies also have $15MM club option for 2030 with $1MM buyout)
- Kyle Schwarber, DH: $20MM through 2025
- Jose Alvarado, RP: $9.5MM through 2025 (includes $500K buyout of $9MM club option for 2026)
- Matt Strahm, RP: $7.5MM through 2025 (Phillies have $4.5MM club option for 2026)
2025 financial commitments: $220,219,156
Total future commitments: $846,258,117
Arbitration-Eligible Players (projections from MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz)
- Ranger Suarez (5.112): $8.9MM
- Austin Hays (5.057): $6.4MM
- Jose Ruiz (4.148): $1.2MM
- Edmundo Sosa (4.140): $2.5MM
- Garrett Stubbs (4.120): $1.2MM
- Alec Bohm (4.106): $8.1MM
- Kolby Allard (4.021): $1.1MM
- Brandon Marsh (3.078): $3MM
- Bryson Stott (3.000): $3.5MM
- Non-tender candidates: Allard, Hays, Stubbs
Free Agents
The warning lights on the Phillies' season started flashing well before the playoffs, as the team raced out to a dominant 45-19 start before posting a far more modest 50-48 record in its final 98 games. Such players as Trea Turner, Ranger Suarez and Alec Bohm cooled off after hot starts, injuries to Suarez and Spencer Turnbull exposed a lack of rotation depth, and the team's trade deadline additions had mixed results.
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SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs
Just buy some big fancy free agents to plug into the lineup it’s rotisserie league with Dombrowski.
mlb fan
“Rotisserie league”…For “win now” GMs, Dave Dombrowski is about as good as it gets. There’s a reason he’s taken at least 3 different teams(I think 4 actually)to at least 1 World Series appearance. And, there’s a reason the HOF already has a place picked out for the “Dom’s” Hall Of Fame statue.
Salvi
“he’s taken at least 3 different teams”
I’d be more impressed if he stayed with one team and had long-term success.
SportsFan0000
It is very rare for Executives and/or star players to stay with one team for their entire careers for many reasons.
Lindor's Bodyguard
Santander!
User 2770661946
For far too long the Phillies have escaped the lol tag.
That ends today. That ends right now.
Lol Phillies
mlb fan
“Lol Phillies”..Just so you remember, the Phillies have been to a World Series and a couple of championship series rounds in the last 3-4 yrs. Only one team will win it all and the Phillies have not gotten there yet.
That being said, only maybe 5 or 6 teams(if that many)have had a better last 4 yrs than the Phillies. I’m not a Phillies fan per se, but I do watch an awful lot of MLB and it seems quite a bit of a desperate reach to “Lol Phillies”.
Bart Harley Jarvis
@mlb fan,
Your points are appreciated, but trolls are gonna troll.
User 2770661946
Okay but two World Series rings in 142 years is still pretty lol. The past three years they’ve been bridesmaids. The ten before that, not even invited to the wedding. They get an lol pass from a lot of people because they spend money. Not me. A .474 franchise history winning % is lol-able
Bart Harley Jarvis
Yeah, like I said.
User 2770661946
Yeah you’re right Bart. Numbers lie and everyone who points them out to the fans of that team are trolls. What a baby. Wipe those cheez wiz tears and come back when you’re done with your time out. Loser
Bart Harley Jarvis
@buckle,
Thanks for proving my point. Well done, sir!
Medecineman
Comments like this are why we need a thumbs down emoji.
Lindor's Bodyguard
Sounds like more stupid money! Didn’t the owner (Middleton) say “stupid money” a few years ago?
Blackpink in the area
Is this a Mets fan talking about how the Phillies owner spends money foolishly?
JoeBrady
Assuming they NT Hays, they are at $275M, and need an SP (likely), another ‘okay’ OF, a closer, and another decent RP. Without a trade, it will be difficult to keep this under $300M.
C Yards Jeff
If they do NT Hays, hope Os get him back. Compliments Mullins well, a needed seasoned league level RH stick. 6 plus mil is worth it … even with nagging and varying injury and illness that seem to show up year in-n-out.
Cowser, Mullins, Hays OF is a plus group defensively … and with Kjersted as a 4th … in 25. Santander? He gone.
Samuel
Jeff;
Unless he’s in a wheelchair, Austin Hays will not be released.
As for Kjersted in the OF…be careful of what you wish for.
Chicken In Philly?
Hays is very likely a non-tender. At his projected salary, a quad A guy can replace him.
jbigz12
Samuel is dead wrong. Hays is a likely non tender.
JoeBrady
I am trying to figure out if there is a material difference between Hays and Refsnyder. Hays is better, but both are short-side platoon leftfielders.
As a starter, Hays is better, since he can maybe handles RHP at least a little. But if the intent is to have them platoon, Ref hits lefties better than Hays does,
getrealgone2
Phillies gonna have a lot of old men on contracts soon.
User 2770661946
Same club that paid Jamie Moyer at 47 and Matt Stairs at 41
AARPhillies
philliesfan215
And they won a world series doing so. What a horrible example from the troll
dclivejazz
The Phillies “window” is closing, perhaps more rapidly than expected.
Blackpink in the area
Truly it’s been closing for a while but they keep spending more and more and more to keep it open. I have to believe they can’t continue to do this but who knows.
JoeBrady
It will be an interesting experiment. This is much like with Preller and the payroll expanding every year. Except Preller finds new prospects every year. DD will have to do the same. Painter goes a long way in this regard, one way or the other.
They are #27 in batting age and #20 in pitching age. They need a couple of kids to come up.
Philly 6
Crawford (OF) Miller (INF) and Painter (SP) will help in 2026 if not sooner.. That will help the payroll for sure. They might have to bite the bullet one last time in 2025 by increasing payroll…maybe not if DD gets creative. Would love to see them swing a trade for Tucker from Houston. Or sign Bellinger if opts out
Blackpink in the area
Trade Walker and Castellanos for Trout. Trade prospect Miller for Nootbaar and Helsley. Trade Crawford and Painter for additional help the next 2 years. After 2026 it’s gonna suck but you got 2 years of being perhaps the best team in baseball and hopefully winning a championship.
jbigz12
The Angels aren’t going to give their franchise icon up for two smaller dead money contracts. They can’t do that.
jbigz12
Preller doesn’t let many of those prospects come up and play on the ML team. Merrill was fantastic but he ships just about all of the rest of them elsewhere.
DD actually recouped about as many prospects as he sent out at the deadline.
Blackpink in the area
Sure they can. They get off the hook for the later years of Trouts contract and let the Castellanos, Walker and Rendon deals run out then finally can compete again.
jbigz12
Arte’s not going to trade him for no return & 2 dead money deals at this point. Just won’t happen.
He has no trade value and the Angels aren’t going anywhere so he’s probably stuck. If he comes out and looks like an MVP this year and the Angels can get an actual prospect w/ eating serious cash on the deal—then maybe at that point he gets dealt. No way he gets dealt this offseason.
Blackpink in the area
Hey Arte has been making bad decisions for over a decade. So maybe his first instinct is the wrong one.
The Trout contract is bad and it’s going to weigh the Angels down for as long as he’s on the team.
JoeBrady
After years of waiting, I think it is probably too late for the Harper move. At a much bigger savings, you can afford to PO the fans, but after a while, the savings won’t warrant it.
I still like to amuse myself with thoughts of him playing for the RS, but it ain’t going to happen.
JoeBrady
DD actually recouped about as many prospects as he sent out at the deadline.
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He has a couple, but he’s sent out O’Hoppe, Vierling & Brown. It’s early, but there is some talent there.
jbigz12
Right but he got back Marsh for Ohoppe. That made sense with Realmuto already installed and paid.
Vierling’s been a nice utility piece. He managed to recoup 2 potential pitching prospects for Soto at the deadline this year though. I think Seth Johnson will be a quality reliever once they accept that’s his home. Chace pitched very well when he came over to PHL as well in AA.
Brown would be nice to have and would’ve plugged a hole. But all in all he hasn’t given up anything gigantic.
Medecineman
Lol,lol, lol.
Phillls
Lol. Good thing you aren’t a GM, with those nonsense proposals
HatlessPete
Lol, no it isn’t. The Phillies have a strong rotation, a solid offensive nucleus and quality high ceiling prospects on the farm. They have a substantial amount of payroll coming off the books over the next couple years and plenty of resources to augment and reload.
Blackpink in the area
The Nola and Turner contracts are gonna weigh them down. The Phillies have increased payroll probably more than anyone over the last 5 years. They can’t keep doing that.
HatlessPete
In the short term, their higher value contracts do seem to be creating some spending limitations, but very few of those contracts are long enough to remain a concern by the time turner and Nola are likely to be in significant decline. The Phillies have a fair bit of flexibility in the longer term to maintain payroll and continue to add and replace departing players needed
Blackpink in the area
I don’t think maintaining payroll is realistic i think it’s gonna start dropping.
HatlessPete
Why isn’t it realistic?
Blackpink in the area
Why is what they are doing now realistic?
It’s not.
HatlessPete
And yet here they are doing it. So it’s not only realistic it’s the fact of the matter. If you have an actual reasoned, factually supported argument to support your opinion here feel free to share it. Otherwise have fun with your salty haterade driven homer takes elsewhere.
Blackpink in the area
It’s not realistic for them to keep doing it. It’s your assumption that because payroll has been sky high the last couple years it will always be like that and it’s the new normal. But that’s your fault.
HatlessPete
Still waiting for something resembling a specific material fact or reason to support your opinion there bud. You appear to have misunderstood my point here as well. The Phillies project to have multiple significant contracts expiring in the next 1-3 seasons and potential for other savings on players in arb through non tenders and/or trades. They are a popular team with a strong fanbase in a big market and have an owner who appears highly motivated to devote resources to fielding competitive teams. As such there is no logical reason that I can see to suggest that they will be unable to field comparable payrolls to their current one for the foreseeable future. Also they have a greater degree of current roster stability than a lot of other teams and do not necessarily need to add much in roles and positions that tend to be especially expensive rn such as tor starting pitching. Solid corner bats, relief pitching and back end starters can be found at relatively economical prices every offseason.
Blackpink in the area
If the Phillies could support a huge payroll like they have now why didn’t they do so for the 100 whatever years in their existence before now?
Give it a couple years they will let Dom Dombrowski go get a new GM and there will be a lot of talk of youth movement and sustainable this and that.
HatlessPete
Lol…really? That’s like asking how come Apple stock is so expensive now compared to 1980. Because a variety of circumstances and material conditions have changed and evolved over time. Duh!
Blackpink in the area
The Phillies are apple stock 40 years ago? Probably not man.
JoeBrady
waiting for something resembling a specific material fact or reason to support your opinion
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Unless you know the owner, then no one has information to support their level of spending. IMHO, to get back to their 2024 record, I think they will need to spend $300M.
But no one knows whether or not they will.
Blackpink in the area
Joe you are a Red Sox fan you have certainly seen payroll fluctuate for your team. There are cycles to this and right now Philly is at the end of theirs. No shame in that although a championship would be nice.
HatlessPete
The apple stock thing was a little thing we call an “analogy,” not a literal statement of equivalence blackpink. Not sure if you’re actually being dense or just resorting to little semantic digs to substitute for your lack of a specificly reasoned case for your position
HatlessPete
Joe of course none of us actually know for sure what the Phillies will actually spend or do with the roster this offseason. The Phillies front office may not even have come to a full conclusion about their investment capacity and overall offseason plan just yet. And its not impossible that the Phillies will suffer some misfortunes or make some decisions that backfire on them that will require a change in direction or step back down the line. Seemed to me that should have gone without saying.
My point here is that there are good reasons to believe that the Phillies have a strong opportunity to continue to invest in their roster and remain competitive for the next several seasons. Its not a guarantee that they will effectively utilize this opportunity of course. But I think it’s absurd to suggest that the Phillies are facing an impending budget crisis or competitive window closing in the very near future.
Blackpink in the area
There is no impending budget crisis. But they can’t keep running out 240 million dollar payrolls nor can they keep increasing payroll like they have these last few years.
Like I said ownership will want to cut back Dombrowski will move on to another franchise that wants to spend like crazy and the Phillies will go back to a payroll that fits.
Why are you so defensive about this? It’s lame. If the only reason your team is any good is because it spends a ton that’s not something to cheer for.
HatlessPete
The Phillies aren’t my team and I’m not feeling defensive of them. I just disagree with your take here and I find this topic interesting to think about. And honestly I think you’re kind of being obnoxious about the whole thing.
You keep making these assertions of opinion as fact and providing no substantial reasoning or evidence to back them up. That’s kind of lame lol.
I never said the Phillies would continually increase payroll I provided several pieces of evidence to back up my interpretation that they are in a position to continue to compete and re invest payroll capacity as contracts expire back into their roster based on their current roster, payroll situation and recent track record of ownership support for spending to compete.
Not the real Sports Pope
It’s a very top heavy team, very reminiscent of the Amaro years
Samuel
Whoaaaa…..
How the national sports media and front-running fans can change the narrative on a dime.
Mets! Mets! Mets! Mets! Mets! Mets! Mets! Mets! Mets! Mets! Mets!
Guess the Phillies and Braves room with the Marlins from now on.
Lousy PoBO’s. Managers. Coaches. Players.
Chicken In Philly?
They still have two aces in Wheeler and Nola, Sanchez is a solid #3, and Suarez can be counted on in the 4 or 5. If Painter comes through, that’s a solid starting five. I don’t see this team falling apart in the next two years, and Dombrowski has recently shown he can add bullpen arms. This team was built for the playoffs but just didn’t pull it off, much like half of the league.
njmatt82
Yes exactly. Like how many times in the last 5-10 years have the Yankees and Dodgers been bounced in the playoffs the first round or two. Phillies are a real good team who stumbled in playoffs. They will be back in “25.
Samuel
Chicken In Philly?;
Ranger is a 4 or 5?
When he was healthy this year he pitched like a #1. If they’re
hard up for a closer he can go back there and be one of the
top 5 in MLB. He’s surely better than Nola (if healthy).
DD has some work to do with the position players….and the bullpen…..again.
JoeBrady
I had Suarez on a couple of roto teams. He was unbeatable early, but struggled after June, particularly after he returned from the IL. It was a back injury, so I wouldn’t be too concerned.
Chicken In Philly?
Ranger had an incredible run to start the year, but he lives off of ground balls, not Ks, which is atypical for an ace. He also hasn’t put together a full, solid season like Nola or Wheeler. Hes valuable, but he’s no #1 or #2.
Medecineman
Yes and the Mets…. WON’T.
Seahawks19081
Are you really predicting 4.12 million for Stubbs? The guy brings nothing to the team whatsoever.
philliesfan215
You’re joking with this right?
609Collectibles
Take on Myles Straw contract to acquire Emmanuel Clase from the Guardians. No way with all those arms they are paying him 15mil per year, especially since he blew a couple of crucial games for them. Something like Rojas, de la Cruz, Mercado & MCgarry for Straw (3/20mil remaining with buyouts) & E. Clase (2/35ish).
DD did say they are going to have to be clever and creative. Would also take on all of Trout’s (6/220) long term salary if the pitching starved Angels would take back Taijuan Walker (2/37) and maybe even Nick Castellanos (2/40) – since Arte said 1. He will not rebuild and 2. Will not eat any salary to facilitate a Mike Trout trade. The Angels and Phillies trade with each other more than any two teams in baseball. They know each other’s farm systems and would love to turn around a couple of live arms like Mick Abel or Andrew Baker that we would kick in.
Long shot/lower end FA’s the Phillies should target this winter:
1. Joey Gallo – batted .160 and still provided positive WAR. Only 29 years old
2. Patrick Corbin – rubber arm, maybe becomes David Robertson out of the pen, reliable 5th starter at least.
3. Mike Soroka – 0-10 for the dreadful Sox last year but only 27 years old and 3 years ago got CY votes.
4. Giovanny Gallegos – still got gas
5. Peter Lambert – former 2nd round pick outside of Coors?
609Collectibles
The Phillies should call the Guardians and tell them they will take on Myles Straw (3/20mil owed w/ buyouts) with Emmanuel Clase (2/35ish). No way the Guards keep Clase with all those arms. Plus his salary is about to triple and he blew a couple of crucial games for them. DD said they need a clever and creative way to fill holes. What better way then the best closer in baseball and platinum glove CF. Johan Rojas, Carlos de la Cruz, Mick Abel & McGarry for Straw & Clase – something like that. Would free up ton of cash.
Under the radar/low salary free agents they should go after this winter:
1. Joey Gallo (batted .160 and still produced positive WAR)
2. Patrick Corbin (rubber arm reliable 5th starter maybe even becomes David Robertson out of the pen)
3. Mike Soroka (went 0-10 for the dreadful WhiteSox but is only 27 years old and got CY votes 3 years ago)
4. Geovanny Gallegos (still throws gas)
5. Peter Lambert (former 2nd rd pick outside of Coors)
Chicken In Philly?
Zack Littell is the target I would like to see them trade for. And where did you get Clase’s salary numbers from? He’s signed to a club friendly deal through 2026 with salaries of $4.9 and $6.4 coming to him over the next two years, and then two club options exist for ten million each.
HatlessPete
I don’t see that happening. First off that is not an accurate depiction of clase’s contract. He’s under contract at bargain basement rates for his value for 2025 and 2026, total value for those seasons around 11.5-12 mill. Then the guards have two ten mill team options for 27 and 28. There’s an absurd amount of surplus value there and the guards can definitely afford to keep him, especially with the cash infusion from their playoff run. They would ask for a better headline r in return than you’re proposing I’d they would move him at all, which I doubt they will.
It doesn’t make sense for the guards to move clase given his affordability and their prospects of competing in 2025. None of the pieces you’re suggesting add enough immediate impact for the guards and it doesn’t make sense for them to weaken their pen given ongoing questions about their rotation which will be harder for them to upgrade.
For the Phils taking on straw is dead money when they have Rojas and marsh to fill his role better on the cheap, and given their financial picture that doesnt seem wise. And in Rojas they have a guy who has flashed enough in mlb that there is still upside on the cheap. The phils should give him an honest shot to try and put it all together and seize the cf job this season. If not worst case they have a serviceable plus glove 4th of on the cheap which is definitely a role they need filled. In short the phils have better, cheaper myles straw at home.
dmbphils27
If the Phillies run it back with same lineup next season its gonna be ugly. They gotta get creative and make some moves.
Chicken In Philly?
Why? How would the same lineup produce ugly results, when this lineup scored the third most runs in the NL, had the fourth best run differential in MLB, and injuries are unpredictable? Would you say the same thing about the Braves?
dmbphils27
I meant more so from the point of view of fans. We need a batter or two with a different approach and a solid bullpen piece or two and a 5th starter type. They will still get wins and do well but the fear of PTSD from three consecutive exits due to the bats going cold in the playoffs is very real.
JoeBrady
The Phillies and Braves were about tied in run differential, and same Py W/L. But Atlanta had a ton of injuries. I would think that has to give Atlanta the edge in 2025.
I’d also consider that the Phillies were basically .500 since the end of June. I wouldn’t discount the fact that they might have been about .700 for while, but also something that should not be ignored.
dmbphils27
Definitely. ATL will have a great rebound year
Chicken In Philly?
Atlanta does not have the same rotation coming back next year. They have huge holes to fill.
onthebucks
Chicken, Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Your questioning how the same Phillies lineup would produce ugly results again next season may not be insane, but it’s certainly not astute either.
Medecineman
Lol, 95 wins looks ugly, lol
onthebucks
For the Phils to win a world championship in 2025, they have to not only acquire new talent by free agency, trade and minor league promotion, but they also have to change a team chemistry that is no longer working. The Phils have to get tough and stop acting and playing like a bunch of privileged amateurs. They also have to start taking better advantage of their existing strengths. For starters, the Phils need to trade Schwarber who, although a better-rounded hitter in 2024, is still a liability because of his 200+ strikeouts a year, mediocre batting average, inability to play any defensive position, hampering the team’s running game, hogging the DH position on a team that would greatly benefit from a DH by committee of older veterans, $20 million salary and pending free agency after the 2025 season. The Phils also need to trade the $18 million a year Taijuan Walker who ceased being a Phillie emotionally after he wasn’t used in the 2024 playoffs. The Phils eating some of Schwarber or Walker’s salary in a trade would be acceptable. If the Phils could, they would dramatically improve by trading for centerfielder Jake McCarthy of the Diamondbacks, infielder Luis Arraez of the Padres, outfielder Kyle Tucker of the Astros and either closer Clase of the Guardians, Miller of the A’s or Helmsley of the Cards. If they can’t improve centerfield, leftfield and the closer position by trade, they could also dramatically improve by acquiring free agent center fielder Teoscar Hernandez, and leftfielder/infielder Jurickson Profar. Anthony Santander would be another possibility for leftfield, but his defense is not as good as Profar’s and he will be much more expensive. Finally, the Phils could dramatically improve by promoting catcher Rafael Marchan and starter Andrew Painter. The Phils need to start having someone sharing time behind the plate with the aging Realmuto, who is making $23 million a year and also becomes a free agent after 2025. The Phils need to infuse youth into their lineup, expand the DH to allow more players to continue hitting while taking a day off defensively, and start taking better advantage of their running game, something they have been unable to do with the slow-running Schwarber leading off and thwarting the base-stealing efforts of guys like Turner and Harper. The Phils could become a world series contender in 2025 if they change their lineup as suggested, develop a more competitive image on and off the field, stay healthy, and remain aware of the Braves and Mets who, if they remain healthy and focused, could return to NL East dominance, leaving an unchanged Phillies team in their dust.
Chicken In Philly?
This take is one for the books. Thanks for handpicking all the players you’d love to have on your fantasy Phillies team. And the “act tough” and “stop playing like a bunch of amateurs” is such solid advice! I actually think they need to hire you as team president.
The playoffs are a five or seven game series. It’s really difficult to pinpoint sometimes why a team doesn’t pull through and win one. Your take does nothing to actually evaluate why they’ve lost in back-to-back years, but it does illuminate the ignorance of some fans.
onthebucks
Chicken, They’ve lost in back-to-back playoffs because their team is incomplete as is. Hence, my analysis of what they have to do to make it complete.
HatlessPete
Lol, i stopped reading when I saw that your masterplan basically calls for replacing Kyle Schwarber with Luis arraez and trading for multiple guys who are very unlikely to be available at all. Take a deep breath and put the monster energy drinks down for a while my dude lol
onthebucks
Hatless, My analysis calls for replacing Schwarber with a DH by committee, and adding players that will make a real difference to the team, rather than marginal players who will only complicate matters. The reality of the situation is that Realmuto’s best days are behind him. He can’t catch as often as he once did, but he needs to hit regularly. Turner needs days away from shortstop when he enters one of his sloppy periods where he can’t seem to hold on to grounders, but he needs to continue hitting regularly. The same can be said for Bohm at third base. Harper and Castellanos would also profit from defensive days off where they were still able to bat as the DH. Sosa needs a lot more playing time, and a DH by committee would allow him to get that time. So, you’re wrong thinking I want to replace Schwarber with Arraez or any other player for that matter. I do think the Phils have the opportunity to get a quality player or players back in return for Schwarber by a trade. Players like Arraez, Tucker, Clase, and even McCarthy – players who would have an immediate impact on the Phils, may require a substantial player like Schwarber in return, and because of his weak batting average, strikeout propensity, and inability to contribute defensively, he may be the Phils’ most expendable position player. The $20 million a year Schwarber and $23 million a year Realmuto are free agents after the 2025 season. If the Phils don’t win the world series in 2025, they are both expensive players the Phils may choose not to resign. Alternatively, if the Phils don’t win the world series in 2025, Schwarber and Realmuto may choose to test the free agent market. That’s why trading an expendable player like Schwarber right now and getting a valuable player in return makes a lot of sense.
HatlessPete
Ok…paragraph breaks are your friends my dude. Try and get acquainted with them.
It’s highly debatable to describe shwarber as expendable since he just hit 38 home runs with an obp in the 360s, which is very in line with his performance with the phils over the life of the deal. No evidence of decline in his numbers rn and he’s young and durable enough to be a relatively strong bet to perform to career norms on his last year of the deal. Heck he even got the batting average up by a significant tick this year!
Bats like that don’t grow on trees. He’s also a fan favorite and key clubhouse presence which make him far from casually expendable since his on field production is quite strong. Castellanos is far more expendable albeit harder to move, but sliding him into schwarbers role is a downgrade.
The other problem here is that tucker and clase are, by any reasonable evaluation, far less readily available than you appear to think and would come at a heavy cost. It is far from certain that the phils even have enough pieces they would part with to get both those dudes, if they are even gettable by anyone rn. Throw in the other guys you want them to trade for on top of that and it’s just utterly unrealistic. None of those players are going to come at an insignificant cost and it’s not plausible that certain of those teams are going to accept high paid veteran rentals in return.
SportsFan0000
Dombrowski is obviously a 1st Ballot Hall of Famer
so he does not need my advice.
But, just for a few laughs, I will throw a few things out there.
“Shake things up” Phillies Team is getting too comfortable and not hungry enough to fight like junkyard dogs for a Championship.
Talk to Trey Turner about moving off SS to LF or CF (Jackson Merrill)
Move Stott to SS fulltime for a defensive upgrade
Fast track Aiden Miller to the majors to play 2B or 3B
Fast track Justin Crawford to the majors for CF or LF
Make a few of Dave Dombrowski blockbuster style trades:
Trading chips on the table should include at least one or more of the following:
3B Alec Bohn, LF/DH Kyle Schwarber and more.
Get some multi dimensional, interchangeable parts that can play multiple infield and OF positions well and can hit in the clutch for playoffs and World Series (or signings if enough salary is cleared in deals).
Make a few strategic signings for reasonable costs like a LHSP Matthew Boyd and 1-2 little ball hitters with speed who can scratch and create runs when the power game shuts down. to start and/or fortify the bench and give Manager Rob Thomson many more options and weapons to use in crucial game situations.
If they move some salary off the books, then consider signing Brewers free agent SS Willy Adames can play 3B, SS, 2B OF.
Just a few of many, many possibilities to get the Phillies lined up for a World Series in 2025.
Nick Castellanos could also be a Phillies trade chip for the right return…
onthebucks
Fan, In 2025, the Phils will need Bohm and Castellanos who were two of the Phils’ most reliable and consistent players in 2024. Bohm played the end of the year with a significant hand injury. He downplayed it for the media, but his hitting was obviously hampered by his injury. Castellanos does not get the limelight that Harper, Schwarber and Turner do, but he was the Phils most consistent hitter in the final few months of the season and in the playoffs. What’s more, his defense is very underrated. He makes many difficult catches routinely and has one of the best outfield arms in baseball. The Phils shouldn’t rush Miller or Crawford to the majors. They did it to Rojas and may have ruined his career in the process. The Phils don’t need Adames. If they trade for any infielder, it should be Luis Arraez. I agree the Phils should play Turner in the outfield, but he evidently has balked at the idea. Sosa and Stott are both better defensive shortstops than Turner and, together, would make a solid middle infield. I also agree the Phils will have to free up money to facilitate new free agent acquisitions. Pending free agent Schwarber at $20 million and Walker at $18 million are the Phils top two trade candidates. Pending free agent Realmuto at $23 million is another trade candidate, especially in light of minor league catcher Rafael Marchan’s brief but eye-opening major league performance last season. Turner will probably not be traded, but he has still not proven he is worth what the Phils are paying him. So, who knows what might happen to him and when? The Phils will never trade Harper, the face of the franchise, but I personally think Harper will request a trade to the A’s when they finally settle in Las Vegas, especially if he still hasn’t won a championship in Philly.