As noted in the Tigers’ Offseason Outlook piece, the club has a lot of payroll flexibility, even with continued uncertainty about its future broadcasting contracts. Javier Baez and Colt Keith are the only Tigers players guaranteed money beyond the 2025 season, and that duo combines for $28MM in both 2026 and 2027.
Tarik Skubal will continue to get expensive through his two remaining seasons of arbitration control, but at a projected $8MM in 2025, even another big jump up to $16MM in 2026 is still a discount for a superstar pitcher. Jason Foley’s arb number will keep rising if he keeps posting saves, but Foley is only arbitration-eligible for the first time this winter. Kerry Carpenter and Spencer Torkelson won’t hit arb-eligibility until 2026, and the likes of Parker Meadows and Reese Olson will still be in their pre-arb years.
In short, there should be plenty of payroll space for Detroit to seek out some star talent this winter as the team looks to build on its surprise run to the ALDS. Beyond just external additions, the Tigers may well also look to lock up some of its young cornerstones, such as All-Star outfielder Riley Greene.
Selected fifth overall in the 2019 draft, Greene has long been viewed as a key piece of Detroit’s rebuilding efforts. He was a consensus top-six prospect in all of baseball heading into the 2022 season, when Greene made his Major League debut and hit .253/.321/.362 in his first 418 plate appearances in the Show. The development continued with 11 homers and a .288/.349/.447 slash line in 416 PA in 2023, though Greene’s playing time was limited by some notable injuries. He suffered a stress reaction in his left fibula that cost him over a month of action, and he didn’t play after September 1 due to a right elbow problem that eventually required a Tommy John surgery.
2024 wasn’t an entirely healthy season either for Greene, as he missed just shy of four weeks due to a hamstring strain. However, he still achieved his best season yet, hitting .262/.348/.479 with 25 home runs over 584 PA, translating into a 135 wRC+. Most importantly, Greene’s return from the injured list on August 18 helped the Tigers spark their already-legendary late-season surge. Detroit went 31-13 over its last 44 games, going from also-rans to a wild card berth in a manner of weeks.
Greene’s production after his IL stint (.786 OPS) wasn’t as strong as his .842 OPS pre-injury, and he hit only .231/.355/.269 over 31 PA in the postseason. Still, Greene’s importance to Detroit’s lineup can’t be overstated, as he was easily the Tigers’ most consistent overall hitter. Keith and Meadows didn’t start to contribute much at the plate until later in the season, and Carpenter was limited by both injury (about 2.5 months missed due to a lumbar spine stress fracture) and a lack of production against left-handed pitching.
Beyond the bottom-line numbers, Greene made some big gains on the advanced-metric front. He went from 30 barrels and an 11.3% barrel rate in 2023 to 48 barrels and a 13.4% barrel rate this season, putting him in the 87th and 90th percentile of all hitters in each respective category. Greene’s walk rate made a seismic leap up to 11%, far beyond his 8.4BB% in 2023 that was slightly below the league average. While Greene still strikes out a lot, he at least did a better job of laying off pitches outside the zone, with a very impressive 23.1% chase rate. Greene’s .329 BABIP indicated that he still received a good deal of batted-ball luck, but that number was well beneath the .369 BABIP he posted in 2022-23.
Defensively, Greene’ struggles in center field and Meadows’ excellent glovework up the middle necessitated a position change near the end of Greene’s 2023 campaign. Greene was installed as the everyday left fielder this season and became a big defensive asset, with +14 Defensive Runs Saved, +4 Outs Above Average, and a +11.7 UZR/150 over 700 2/3 innings in left. Between Meadows’ presence and top prospect Max Clark also viewed as a center field-capable outfielder, it looks like Greene will be staying in left field for the foreseeable future, which isn’t an issue since his bat plays at the position. Comerica Park’s spacious outfield demands more from Tigers outfielders regardless of position, so Greene’s ability to deliver plus glovework in left field is no small feat.
There’s a whole lot to like about Greene’s early-career results, and he only just turned 24 years old in late September. Barring a very low Super Two cutoff point, Greene won’t be eligible for arbitration until the 2025-26 offseason, and thus he’ll remain an immense bargain on a pre-arb minimal salary next season.
With four full years of team control over Greene, the Tigers might not feel too much pressure to work out an extension just yet. Greene’s injury history might stand out to the team as a bit of a red flag, between the hamstring and tibula problems, the TJ surgery, and the broken foot Greene suffered in Spring Training 2022. That said, those injuries might also lower Greene’s price point to some limited extent, and the outfielder could be more open to locking in some guaranteed money if he has any lingering concerns about his durability.
A pretty wide variance exists amidst the recent extensions signed by players within two and three years of MLB service time, with the highest end of those extensions represented by the mega-deals signed by Bobby Witt Jr. and Fernando Tatis Jr. Greene’s representatives at Apex Baseball certainly might argue that their client is closer to those two in terms of meriting face-of-the-franchise types of salaries, but some pretty key differences exist. Tatis was 22 at the time of his extension, while Witt (who is a little over three months older than Greene) plays the more premium position of shortstop.
Greene is currently slated to hit free agency entering his age-28 season, right in the midst of his prime years and on pace to land a huge contract if he keeps up his current form. A big extension lasting a decade or more would hold obvious appeal to him, but conversely, an extension that covers only Detroit’s four remaining years of control might also be of interest — Greene could pick up a guaranteed payday that doesn’t change his free agent timeline. The Tigers would get some cost certainty through Greene’s arbitration years, but such a “bridge contract” scenario might be seen as a placeholder for the team, since the Tigers would certainly want at least a couple of free agent years covered if they’re making such a longer-term commitment.
Yordan Alvarez’s six-year, $115MM extension with the Astros probably represents the floor of what Greene figures to land in an extension. Alvarez signed that deal just a few weeks shy of his 25th birthday, and with three-plus seasons of hitting at level above even what Greene delivered in 2024. Alvarez also had injury concerns (he missed almost all of the 2020 season due to surgeries on both knees) of a more significant nature than Greene, and Alvarez was already viewed at the time as more of a DH than a left fielder. Greene’s much higher defensive ceiling offsets Alvarez’s better hitting, and it should be noted that the length of Alvarez’s contract hit the unofficial six-year limit that Astros owner Jim Crane is known to enforce on his organization’s contracts.
The Tigers have no such known limit on contracts, so a Greene extension could certainly (and likely would) exceed six years. It’s still something of a mystery as to how president of baseball operations Scott Harris or owner Chris Ilitch would approach such a longer-term deal, as Greene’s extension would represent a new frontier for the organization as it comes out of its rebuild. Keith’s six-year, $28.6425MM deal from last January is the only extension signed in Harris’ two years as Detroit’s PBO, and that contract is wholly different from Greene’s situation since Keith had yet to even make his Major League debut.
That being said, extending a player before his debut is an aggressive move in its own right, which could hint that Harris will be proactive in trying to retain players he views as central to the Tigers’ long-term plans. Skubal’s two years of control makes him a more immediate concern than Greene, yet since Skubal is represented by Scott Boras, the Tigers might view Greene as the likelier of the two young stars to be open to a multi-year pact.
As noted earlier, an extension doesn’t need to happen in the near future. Waiting at least another season might help both parties anyway, since another big season only raises Greene’s price tag, but by the same logic would also make the Tigers a little more comfortable about splurging on something like a decade-long extension worth well north of $200MM. With a pretty clean set of financial books right now, however, the Tigers might feel the time is right to officially confirm Greene as a pivotal figure in this new era of Detroit baseball.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Anyone read this as trade candidate: Riley Greene
For Love of the Game
With four more years until free agency, a team on the rise, and the most consistent hitter on a team needing more offense? No way!
Jm207* 2
Nope, just you
Lindor's Bodyguard
Not me.
User 2770661946
.231 in the playoffs with zero home runs when it counted. No need for an extension yet.
funkytime
Please. Small sample size and he just had his age 23 season. Lock him up ASAP.
RobM
“…already-legendary late-season surge.”
Legendary? : -)
Greene is not viewed in the same impact class as Witt, or then-SS Tatis Jr. (pre-shoulder surgery and PEDS), but he’s certainly worth exploring an extension. Maybe a five year deal with two club options. Greene can then still hit free agency by 31, or the two sides can negotiate a longer extension before the club options.
funkytime
I mean … 3 teams EVER have come back to make the playoffs from as far back as the Tigers were that late in the season. So I’d say that comeback was indeed pretty legendary.
Less so because they didn’t go further in the playoffs though.
User 2770661946
Disgraceful not one mention of Cher getting inducted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame tonight.
84LeFlore
I’ll mention it: It’s disgraceful that Cher is getting inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame tonight.
Melchez17
“Cher” and “Rock and Roll” do not belong in the same sentence. Cher should be inducted into the “Karaoke” Hall of Fame.
Motor City Beach Bum
Sign him now Harris! Skubal and Carp too.
Then add a big bat, a pitcher, a big bullpen arm and fill in around the fringes. Maybe Bregman for 3B (unless they really feel Jung is the answer) or a right handed OFer (unless they feel Malloy is the guy), Verlander, Buehler or Flaherty to start, Devin Williams in trade and Kim to split time at SS and cover everywhere else in McKinistry’s old role.
GarryHarris
Tarek Skubal is represented by the Boras Corporation. Extension not happening.
Motor City Beach Bum
Unless he wants the extension to happen.
Melchez17
I was a big fan of Kim before this year, but now… I’m afraid he will be Baez part 2. I’m content with Sweeney for now. He’s a solid defender with some clutch hitting. Baez can be the super utility guy for now. If he doesn’t produce soon, he’s DFA material.
I like Bregman. Excellent glove at 3B… some power. Great command of the plate. Jung can be an excellent backup at 2B/3B/1B and a lefty bat off the bench. Jung can replace McKinstry.
Resign Flaherty. He was an excellent number 2 behind Skubal.
I would try and make a deal with the D’Backs for LHP Jordan Montgomery. He had a terrible season, but he has had some great seasons in the past. The D’Backs owner made some disparaging comments about Montgomery ($22.5M) and he may not be too hard to acquire. Maeda (to offset salary – $10 mil) and a decent prospect/ major leaguer like Montero might get it done. ..
I would also make a deal with the Dodgers for Feduccia. A lefty hitting catcher who is excellent behind the plate and doesn’t strike out. He would make an excellent combo with Rogers. Dingler to AAA for depth. Manning might get you Feduccia.
I would try and convince Verlander to be the closer. I think 1 inning outings might be better for him at his age.
I would seriously consider Rizzo at 1B. He is pretty old and injury prone, but Tork needs to spend some time at AAA to figure things out. Rizzo is a very short term fix just to see if Tork can turn it around. If he doesn’t… Liranzo is knocking on the door… or Vlad Jr is a free agent next winter.
Outfield Greene, Meadows, Perez, Vierling, Carpenter
Infield Rizzo, Keith, Sweeney, Bregman, Baez, Jung
C Rogers, Feduccia
Starters Skubal, Flaherty, Montgomery, Olson, Mize
Bullpen Verlander, Vest, Foley, Holton, Guenther, Hanifee, Brieske, Hurter
Motor City Beach Bum
I like the idea of acquiring Montgomery. I think Christian Walker has more to offer than Rizzo if they decide to park Tork at AAA. If they get Bregman I think Jung might be trade bait, unless they shift some others around and move him to OF, 2B or 1B. You forgot Ibanez. I can’t see Verlander saying yes to the BP.
iwojimausmc
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vincent k. mcmahon
I always think of another Riley when Mr.Greene’s name pops up, but I do think that maybe year wise close to what Colt Keith got and money wise I’d think it’d definitely be roughly double what CK got. So maybe a 5yr/50 or 5/45 deal.
84LeFlore
Riley Greene is the Tigers’ Franchise, IMO, and the Tigers would do well to lock him up. Health is his only potential obstacle. I’d like to see them easing him and/or Carp into 1B reps to see about handling that position at least on a platoon basis with Tork. Riley’s health worries me.
I don’t mind Carp’s defense in RF, but Max Clark is on the fast track, and the Tigers OF of Max (LF), Meadows (CF) and Riley (RF) would be world-class defense. Being allowed to move around from RF, DH & 1B would get Carp more ABs.
KhaluChris
I don’t think it is imperative to sign Greene to an extension right now. He’s still under team control for 3-4 more years and at a discounted rate. I’ve never been a fan of locking up players into super long deals when they’re young unless they truly are superstar caliber like the aforementioned in this article.
I think the smarter decision would be to invest money into the pitching rotation on short term deal players like Bieber, Buehler & maybe try and swing a deal for Alcantara and have possibly the best pitching staff in baseball for the next season or two while only adding around $45m in annual payroll.
Also, while Kerry Carpenter is far and away the Tigers best hitter; he’s also the absolute worst fielding outfielder I have ever seen. I wouldn’t want him anywhere on the field outside of him running on the base paths. Kerry Bonds is strictly a DH.
84LeFlore
When Harris talks about getting more R-L balance in the lineup, he means we need another RH (or switch-hitting) bat.
That likely means a LH is on his way out. That probably means Z-Mac, since he is lowest on totem pole.
For Love of the Game
Kinda weird and violent 10kBees.
MPrck
I hope they don’t chase after free agents this year. I like this set up they have. They have some exciting young players at every position. First base may need to be a platoon set up, but the rest looks great. Having Carp learn first to platoon would be my first choice, but I was happy with Madriss except there is no space for him.
If Geene learns first then Malloy can play left. He looked pretty serviceable out there. I like this platoon system. If I was still a season ticket holder I would love this team as is. The struggles some hitters are having I attribute to whatever they’ve done to the baseballs. They are all hitting the ball extremely hard, and it’s going nowhere.
The legalized gambling in the sport now is shocking. Fanduel really ? With baseball able to mechanic the baseball it’s insane to bet on it. How do you gauge pay with the ball being hand made, and this type of changes made to it ? Verlander is the only player who I remember mentioning it, so strange.
The Tiger owe Baez and Maeda 85 million yet, that’s insane. The fans in the stands just have to moan when you see those two on the field. I like the excitement this team brings everyday. I like the long term deals given to guys like Keith, or any young guy the Tigers have as they know them.
Findley’s Oakland run still stands out in Detroit’s fans minds. Oakland and Tampa being in the playoffs every year always stood out in the season ticket holders minds. Good grief, the 5 years with Zimmerman was hell, until Javy, then we knew what hell was. No more, no mas.
This team looks good. Sign as many early extensions as possible. Detroit’s a first class team, and city with a fantastic owner and fans. They don;t have to twist anyone’s arms to stay here. 225,000 fans the last 5 home games says a lot about how th3ey feel about the team. I’m sure the players themselves will make it known to management how they feel about staying in Detroit. Go Tigers, Go Trump !
stymeedone
Just for equal opportunity, and because it’s just as irrelevant in a baseball chat: Go Tigers, Go Harris!
Motor City Beach Bum
You finally came around to Scott Harris Styme? 😉 Cheers dude
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Tricked him! Ha!
tigerdoc616
I love and hate this time of year. Hate it when it isn’t my team still playing. I love all the articles that come out about who to sign, who to extend, etc. Entertaining for sure even if some of it is fantasy/fiction. The notion of extending Greene isn’t fiction though it might be fantasy. Takes two to tango and hard to say if the Tigers are even looking at extending him or anyone else. Tigers have Greene under control for 4 more seasons and he’ll hit the market at 28 which a prime time for a guy to hit free agency. That is when the best players get the longest term and most lucrative deals. Hitting free agency even 2 years later can really diminish a player’s earnings. So the Tigers will have to pony up some serious money if they home to extend him even one additional year. 5 yr/$120M might start the conversation.
For Love of the Game
I think Greene would run to get a pen with that kind of offer. He isn’t even arb eligible for another year.
thickiedon
6 years max, why hand out a 10 year deal?
For Love of the Game
What is like about the Keith deal are the three option years. If he turns out to be a stud, you keep him but at a high salary that’s worth it.
funkytime
He’s young enough that 10 years could make sense. Especially if some of those are option years.
Karensjer
Part of me wants Detroit to extend him. Part of me sees him like a combination of Kevin Kiermaier and Bryan Buxton; gold glove fielder with .300 AVG, 30 SB, and 20 HR potential, but loves to play hard and ends up getting injured. I guess it’s worth the gamble. He can’t be worse than Baez. Extend Skubal as well.
stymeedone
Send Carpenter home for the winter set up with three different LHs to throw batting practice to him. Then let’s see if our best power hitter can play every day.
Melchez17
I didn’t realize he was so bad against lefties… He hit .101 against them last year. WOW!
.300 against righties though. He is definitely worth keeping at least against righty pitching.
Motor City Beach Bum
Platoon him and Malloy. Malloy hits lefties well.
LABeachguy
I agree. I followed Greene since he was drafted. I think Parker Meadows was more important to the Tigers great run the last two months. Greene didn’t seem like a carry the team on his back type.
84LeFlore
You’re probably right about Parker being more impactful in the great Tigers run (loved it!!!!!) than Greenie. Riley didn’t carry the team on his back those 2 months. BUT… he hAS carried the Tigers at times. He was the barometer for a good part of the season. We need BOTH of those guys.
I’ve been around a while and watched a lot of baseball. One thing I remember about the Big Red Machine. They were the best lineup I ever saw. BUT, rarely were they ALL in a groove. At any one time, Bench, or Morgan or Foster could be in a horrific slump. But because they were such a strong lineup, the others were good enough to overcome slumpers.
We need more Parkers & Rileys in our lineup.
raz427
I think honestly they should resign Greene, and trade Carpenter. He’s a good player but the injuries really worry me. Trade him for another pitcher. I would try and extend Skubal but also not coming with a cheap offer.
Foundation of the team is being built, and Skubal is the land thats being built on top of it. No need to overact and spend bad money on guys like Bregman or others. I think they should make a honest run at Evoladi or possibly Wacha. They need more out of those starters next year if they want to remain a contender.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
Rendon for Baez change of scenery trade.
Desperate Times calls for Desperate Measures.
Tigers future looks bright but obviously want some productive return for their investment in Javy. Maybe hold onto Javy and hope he rededicates himself in offseason and has at least a semi productive first half of 2025. If ONLY he could limit his strikeouts
He can’t be as bad as his 2024 statistics.
Is a .220 12 HR 45 RBI .305 OBP 350 AB 2025 season being too optimistic?
GarryHarris
I would prefer Javier Baez over Anthony Rendon. Perhaps Baez can go for another dead weight contract or maybe hope Baez has a comeback year and they trade him to a desperate team. I doubt Detroit replicates this years late season run.
warnbeeb
He’s not getting traded.
He’s not getting extended.
Give it 3 more years.
cwsOverhaul
No need to extend oft injured players. Playing well for 150gms next 2yrs is when it might be worth exploring.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
They should just hire the Superfife…..