The Dodgers’ focus on Juan Soto is currently directed towards figuring how to get the slugger out during the remainder of the World Series, but once the offseason begins, the club could be looking to add Soto to its own lineup. The New York Post’s Jon Heyman reports that the Dodgers are interested in Soto and will start more of a full-fledged pursuit “if he’s interested” if coming to Los Angeles.
As Heyman notes, the Dodgers’ deep pockets have allowed them to at least check in on virtually every major free agent in recent years, so if anything, it would be unusual if L.A. didn’t have Soto on its offseason wish list. The Dodgers are also one of the few teams that can reasonably meet Soto’s asking price, which is widely expected to be the most upfront guaranteed money ever given to a baseball player. The “upfront” caveat is necessary since Shohei Ohtani’s $700MM deal is so heavily deferred that the contract is worth around $437.8MM in present value, and Soto’s next deal is expected to surpass the $500MM mark.
According to RosterResource, the Dodgers already have roughly $257.2MM committed to their 2025 payroll, as well as a $253.1MM estimate on their luxury tax number. The latter again puts the Dodgers over the tax threshold ($241MM) for next season, and naturally adding Soto for a minimum of a $50MM average annual value would put the club over the highest tax penalty tier of $301MM. Since Los Angeles has already been a tax-paying team for the last four seasons, crossing the $301MM threshold would more than double the size of the team’s tax on any overages beyond the $241MM mark.
Of course, the luxury tax has clearly not been a major concern for the Dodgers in their pursuit of top-tier talent. With Ohtani, Mookie Betts, Yoshinobu Yamamoto, and Will Smith signed through the rest of the decade and Freddie Freeman and Tyler Glasnow both signed through at least 2027, the Dodgers won’t be ducking under the tax line any time soon, and the financial penalty is offset by the simple fact that the team is a revenue-generating juggernaut.
There are plenty of obvious reasons why Soto would have his own interest in joining a perennial contender like the Dodgers, though geography continues to be the lingering question surrounding Soto’s impending free agency. While Soto and Padres owner Peter Seidler made some headway in extension talks prior to Seidler’s passing a year ago, Heyman repeats the long-held belief that Soto would prefer to play on an East Coast team, all things being equal. This could make the Yankees or Mets the favorites to sign him this winter, as the two New York teams can better fit Soto’s preferences of both location and contract.
While the Yankees and Mets alone could generate a nice bidding war, Soto and agent Scott Boras would certainly have a vested interest in keeping other teams in the hunt, be it the Dodgers or other potential suitors like the Giants, Blue Jays, or Nationals. If the Dodgers perceive that Soto’s interest in coming to L.A. is fairly limited, the team could easily move onto any number of other options on the free agent market.
For instance, re-signing Teoscar Hernandez would be much less expensive than signing Soto, and Hernandez is already a known quantity in Los Angeles and a big offensive force in his own right. Heyman also figures the Dodgers will look to add another big pitcher to its injury-ravaged rotation, even though Ohtani, Glasnow, Clayton Kershaw, and others are expected to be healthy by Opening day.
Might as well…..
Anyone surprised by that has not been paying attention for the past decade. The Dodgers spent more in free agency last year than the rest of the league COMBINED. It is not a level playing field. They are good at being the rich guys, but you’ll never convince me that it is fair.
Doyers need to park it. They’re coming off like the old man Steinbrenner Yankees.
Your jealousy is pretty obvious. Incidentally Ohtani offered to defer. Is he the problem or is it that your team was not attractive to him?
stingray23: You say that as if it’s a bad thing.
Sometimes I have to wonder if the agents are paying for these articles.
if you can’t beat him, pay him
They are about to beat them then pay him lol
Umm The Dodgers are up 2-0
not because of soto
1.413 OPS so far
they might beat the yankees but they’re not beating him
Sounds like more Dodger salaries being deferred…already $1 billion deferred…pffft
Cry!
I’m a small market fan that likes the MLB model. And spending gobs of money to try to buy a pennant is a great strategy if you can afford it … especially year in and out. But, it’s not the only way. Always a chance that small market team can win it all. Love that.
My gut says there’s no turning back, either. A new league entity/corporation launched to compete against MLB is an option. Publicly traded. Each team and all it’s on field and off field personnel are employees of the corporation. And make it a World League. Everybody gets a base pay plus bonus pay based on previous years performance determined by performance review.
Baltimore is hardly a “small market”. That’s just an excuse for cheap owners
Ere – Baltimore is the 7th-smallest market in MLB, thanks in large part to Peter Angelos allowing the Nationals to take over a huge chunk of the Orioles territory in 2005.
Now the Orioles market is about the same size as Cincy, which is the 6th-smallest.
All true, but…Angelos hardly allowed the Nationals to take a big chunk of the territory. They own 67-70% of MASN, which is to say they own the Nationals TV rights. The Orioles and Nationals have equal penetration in every area MASN is carried.
Okay so they are the 7th smallest market in mlb. What’s your point? The owner is still a billionaire who has the funds to try to acquire the same amount of talent the dodger do. Like I said blame it on cheap owners not small market teams.
David Rubinstein has a net worth of 4.6 billion dollars. Oh but let’s hear the small market argument again
falcon – Good point. I should have used the word “share” instead of “take over”, my bad.
Erebus – I never understand when someone asks me my point after I simply point out something they said was inaccurate. They are a small market team, that’s my point! LOL!!
If the market is too small to sustain a large payroll, expecting ownership to cover any potential financial losses is ridiculous. So you want Dave to use millions of his own money just to sign big name players? Really?
Fans need to face the facts, the ten smallest markets in MLB simply cannot compete with the payrolls of teams like the Dodgers and Yankees. When I say compete I mean have a similarly large payroll, I don’t mean compete on the field.
Doesn’t really matter what we think. The fact is MLB recognizes the playing field is not even for some teams including Baltimore by compensating them via revenue sharing.
4.6 billion if Baltimore wanted they could compete with any team when it comes to free agents.
Old enough to remember when Cohen was the boogeyman
Well it won’t matter to them since they aren’t paying Ohtani a fair salary. Might as well and hopefully it truly ruins baseball
CCooper8920: Manfred already has a head start when it comes to ruining baseball.
It is because Manfred had a great teacher name Selig. He was not all that good of a commissioner either.
They will be paying $44M to fund Ohtani’s deferred money for the season next year, on top of the $2M in salary. They ll be charged a total of $46M against their cap.
It is called accrued interest and the time value of money. That $700M is fictious and Ohtani’s contract was strutted in a way to sensationalize him. This is the player who has brought in the most by far in marketing revenue for the past few seasons and will continue to see at least the next few. That is the reason his agent was pushing this type of contract. One that would continue to be talked about .
CCooper8920: The Dodgers offered and Ohtani accepted. That makes it a fair contract and salary by definition.
He’s obviously going to Japan after this season. His family is there, he’s fluent in Japanese, and insists his teammates refer to him as ‘The Samurai’.
Their bullpen is a bunch of reclamation products that are all hot at the same time. It’s like the Braves in ‘21, just playoff baseball.
You haven’t watched the Dodgers over the Friedman years, have you?
Don’t believe this
Thanks but no thanks! Not even close to being worth the amount of money that he’s going to want. I rather resign Teoscar and sign a starting pitcher.
Yep, just re-sign Teoscar, sign Tomoyuki Sugano and Roki Sasaki. Sugano said itself that money wasnt his prime target, but the chance to compete in the Majors and winning the rings would interest him. And Sasaki? Dude made it clear he wants join the Dodgers
No chance unless he agrees to defer.
LOL, How much Boras pay Heyman? Because the Dodgers doesnt not more DH imho
i give respect to the mans offensive skill but watching the series his defense is certainly not elite level. he’s doing fine in NY after behind slightly above averages in SD. rather see LA resign Teo.
Wren: I agree with Soto’s poor defense. Then again, Ohtani doesn’t even play defense and is making more than any player in the history of the game. I also agree that the Dodgers should re-sign Teoscar. What more does he have to do to prove his worth to them?
Why don’t the Dodgers just buy the leage???
* League.
What’s a leage?
They did. League (first name Brandon) played for the Dodgers from 2012-2014. He was so-so.
Dodgers tampering with Soto also?
The Dodgers haven’t said a word. It’s much more likely Boras is whispering in Heyman’s ear.
Yankees don’t win the division and wouldn’t be in the WS with out him.
Youre not getting Burnes, Snell, another for that 50 mil or anything close to that.
Bingo well said and I’ve posted this numerous times. Yankees will easily be a better team with 3-4 top free agents over Soto and lets not forget Dominguez and Jones in the future going to be a juggernaut for a decade
Dusty
If the Yankees don’t have Soto, then maybe they have King, Cease and Brito instead
Personally, I thought the Yankees and Padres both made a good deal at the time. I still think that. I also would not re-sign Soto at $400 million-plus that he will surely get because I see him as a DH in 3-4 years.
You are saying the Yankees would be better spending $90+ million AAV on 3 top FA than spending $40 million AAv on Soto? I would agree with that. Every team would be better if they were able to do that.
Of course they are.
Cmon Manfred, sort this out. Let one team buy all the players!!!! Not good
Where have you been when the Padres have done exactly this over the last five years? Machado, Hader, Soto, Bogaerts, Darvish, not to mention rifled through their minors to get players like Cease and extended Tatis as well. Literally everything you’re pissed at the Dodgers for doing, the Padres have been doing for the last few seasons as well.
Plus they get the good relievers, not reclamation projects.
You’re laser focused on the wrong team if you’re using that argument.
I’m a Dodger fan and I think the Marlins have a better chance to sign Soto.
Dodgers won’t pursue Soto, they going let Teoscar walk, sign Adames and add another top of the rotation starter! They need a shortstop, Rojas is way past his prime, he’s a backup bench guy. Good shortstops are hard to come by, outfielders are a dime a dozen and Adames is still young, Dodgers have been connected to him for a couple years now! Teoscar will get his bag elsewhere at age 32
So you don’t think Edman can play short even though he’s done quite well?
@Cards
Edman is not good, he’s not a long term option.
Time will tell. He’s been above average at short this year according to defensive runs saved.
Edmans does the intangibles and is an excellent ss option. Without him the Dodgers aren’t on the precipice of a championship.
Put alot on the Yankees winning it with a bookie based on someone’s advice (doesn’t seem like the type who would be interested in negotiating if the Yankees lose). Please say it was still the right move.
Nice knowing ya, Hendu!
Just tell them it was actually your interpreter who placed the bet….
They’ll do what they did with Harper, offer him a short-term very high annual value contract, which he will turn down because, like Harper, he wants to chase the largest total contract.
As most people would.
Even Harper has expressed regrets on that contract. They floated a renegotiation of the contract which was not well received by the Phillies.
DH is kind of reserved for the next 10 years or so. Dodgers going to hide Soto in LF for 10 years?
That’s what the Giants did with Bonds.
It is what it is (the rich teams are rich and there is no salary cap), but at what point does the disparity start leading to the crippling of the league and lessening even further of the total MLB fanbase? It seems like very shortsightedness of the owners.
Anyone know why Soto prefers to play in the east?
I heard it was proximity to the Dominican Republic and family… but it’s not like I heard him say that.
I have no idea of why you think he prefers to play in the east. I think he prefers to play wherever they pay him the most. Proximity to family in the DR? Get real; he flies there first class when he goes home.
Oh OK, then carry on having no idea.
I just found something that makes more sense. The vast majority of Dominicans in the US are in the northeast. Most of them in the NYC/New Jersey area. I can see him preferring to be somewhere with a large Dominican population.
Soto has said that he will sign with a team that can cement his legacy by winning a World Series. He has never said he prefers to play on the east coast.
A lot of people complain whether teams spend or don’t spend. Is it any wonder many teams just tune out the fans and spend as little or as much money as they want?
This is no surprise at all. I bet the Dodgers sign him too.
MLB needs a salary cap to put an end to this disparity where the richest markets can buy up all the best players, it narrows the league to 4-6 teams who have a legit shot and every other city is a wild long shot.
All these owners are rich, most of them just prefer to pocket the money instead of investing it in their team…Seriously! Don’t blame owners who are willing to spend!
Just because the owners are rich does not mean THE BUSINESS generates enough to cover these outrageous salaries. These guys didn’t become billionaires by spending more than the income their business generates.
Personal wealth is a whole lot different than what the business beings in. Not sure why a lot of people can’t grasp that.
No salary cap, increase revenue sharing.
Of course the Dodgers will be in on every free agent they can be…while they can offer the money, is there a significant Dominican population in LA that we weren’t aware of which is supposedly one of his lesser known wants in addition to being paid…..who knows…but assuming the Dodgers are courting him while playing against him is silly.
Will remember Soto coming to Dodgers playoff games cheering for Trea Turner, ex Nats teammate. I was convinced Soto was going to the Dodgers then.
Probably not but if that happens the league should really be in trouble. No one outside the dodgers fans are impressed if they win. When you buy everyone your suppose to win. The ironic thing is one of the best moves and why they are winning is Edman.Hes been incredible.
Blows that whole, “buy everybody and win” statement right out of the water, doesn’t it?
How about “get the right people” and win? You think anyone wanted Michael Kopech or Evan Phillips or an Alex Vesia?
Two minor leaguers and Miguel Vargas for Edman and Kopech has turned out pretty well, I’d say.
There needs to be a salary cap in baseball, period!
Dodgers are no good at making players. So gotta buy players
Seriously dude, Dodgers have one the best farm systems in all of baseball, some of their best stars have come from their system, you obviously don’t follow the game much do you?
Don’t forget Karros, Mondesi, Piazza, Lopes, Russell, Fernando, Beltre, I’m just getting started, the list goes on and on and on!
No players listed from World Series roster. World Series roster bought with gambling money
Don’t quest ton my expert tees
Roll tide laundry detergent
Kershaw, Buehler, Smith, May, Gosselin, Seager, Bellinger, except for them right.
List includes players not listed on World Series roster. Des per rat
Ryan”s goal post moving service.
Why include names who aren’t playing for you lmao
Hello? 2020 called. They said Corey Seager doesn’t play for the dodgers in the future.
If they were not on the WS roster, how come Walker Buehler pitched 5 shoutout innings to catcher Will Smith tonight?
Are bellinger and seagee on the roster? No?
Then the list includes players not on the World Series roster. What’s confusing about that?
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
I swear to god if mookie ohtani Freddie and Soto are on the same team I will quit baseball
I don’t want the equivalent of Steph curry klay Thompson Kevin Durant and draymond green
“The “upfront” caveat is necessary since Shohei Ohtani‘s $700MM deal is so heavily deferred that the contract is worth around $437.8MM in present value”
The “present value” of the Ohtani contract is $471M, not $438M.
blogs.fangraphs.com/ohtanigraphs-spreadsheet-editi…
“Actually, they’re legally obligated to set aside $46 million, based on the rules of the CBA, which is another confusing part of this discussion. The formulaic competitive balance tax number ($460 million) is often referred to as present value, and it’s certainly a present value, but it’s not exactly the same as the way I’d think about it. Instead of using market rates, it uses a contractually defined rate, the federal mid-term rate reported by the IRS each year. That’s a different thing than the present value you’d get by discounting at risk-free rates ($470 million).”
That MLBPA’s number is just ridiculous.
$438M, $461M, $471M… everyone is guessing at the future, so the NPV is nothing but an estimate.
NPV is always an estimate because it’s predicting future returns on investment.
gbs42
$438M, $461M, $471M… everyone is guessing at the future, so the NPV is nothing but an estimate.
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I thought the discount rate was based on a government number at the time of the signing?
According to the 2 articles linked in the article that svetlana linked to, the NPV amount is set at the time that the contract is signed.
“Deferred to when I wonder?”
-MLB Gandalf
Mets happen to have a hole now at DH that they could happily plug Soto into for the next decade.
Make it happen Uncle Steve.
What would you do in his place this offseason?
Would they spend more money to bring in a T Hernandez or a C Walker on top of that? If I do that, then I can sit back and say I’ve done a good job of replacing Soto.
Who cares about whether or not it’s “fair”. Problem is it’s fu$&ing boring. The dodgers are fu$&ing boring. It’s not intersting to see a team continually buy its success. Teams like Tampa (and I’m not a Rays fan) find a way. Thats interesting.
A lot more interesting and impressive
Fussing?
cry
Budget? What budget?
I can guarantee that Juan Soto will not sign with:
Houston Astros
Chicago White Sox
Miami Marlins
Arizona Diamondbacks
Texas Rangers
Minnesota Twins
Cleveland Guardians
St. Louis Cardinals
Colorado Rockies
Los Angeles Angels
the Athletics
Tampa Bay Rays
did I miss anyone?
You missed the Pirates and Royals.
The Brewers, as well.
Cubs, Reds, Royals, Tigers
Orioles.
The Giants & Mariners.
Denver Broncos
The RS.
The Bears
Da Bears.
This is the first Dodgers/Yankees World series in 43 years. So, spending a lot of money doesn’t guarantee anything.
You are totally correct we’ve had a good run of unexpected teams making playoffs pushes. Even with the Dodgers roster being a good notch above teams can overcome that with better teams being cold and lesser rosters being hot. But the more and more they spend on the cream of the crop like this past offseason the less and less likely that is to happen. Yamamoto was like what 25-26 and Ohtani is perhaps the best pure hitter I’ve seen and oh by the way not too bad of a pitcher which he’ll be next year. If they did something like sign Soto and perhaps bring back Flaherty on a much bigger deal plus other signings not as big but substantial they’ll either have crossed a barrier where they have so many stars they can sustain the injury and luck factor. If half their lineup went cold in a series they may reach a point their opponent can’t outscore them regardless. I think and hope Soto remains a NYY I hate to say but if LA signs him in my opinion the scales will be tipped near or at breaking point. That won’t be good for baseball especially the NL. The NL West next year is basically assured and the WS isn’t over yet in 24. It’s becoming a problem for a lot of small market teams that don’t have any certainty in tv revenue. How do they keep payroll where it is or expand it when they can’t predict what’s coming in. NYY vs the Dodgers is great for ratings until the scale is tipped too long and many markets turn to many other sports option then we have 4-6 markets spending anywhere near that amount. I’ll admit they may have paid a hefty price but they signed a lot of can’t miss guys. Can’t get mad at them but if it stays the same or expands baseball will suffer until there’s real deterrents for teams like the Dodgers. Big markets will surely have an advantage. Its just to what degree and I personally think we are hitting a point that degree is too high
Yes, the WNBA will take over and be more popular than MLB because of superteams.
Oh,for Chrissakes, baseball needs a salary cap!
Get Trout too
Ohtani determines the Dodgers’ offseason plans for the next decade. Part of the conditions of him signing was the team making a real commitment to winning every year, so he suggested deferring his salary so the Dodgers HAVE TO spend money on players.
Ohtani is great friends with Teoscar who’s become a fan favorite (he’s the sunflower seed tosser) and is a positive clubhouse presence whereas Juan Soto is a hot dog and a defensive liability. Yes, he’s a great talent but LA already has talent. Forgive me for being corny but LA has never lacked for talent. They have lacked heart.
My guess is Teoscar returns, a A or B level starter is signed and LA makes a run at some more Japanese players, and this will all make Shohei happy.
This is all fluff. No way this happens. And they aren’t resigning Teoscar either. They hope that Andy Pages will replace him. With that, they still have James Outman and their #1 prospect, Daulton Rushing, has been taking reps in left since they oddly signed Smith to a big deal.
What WILL happen though is the signing of top Japanese pitcher, Roki Sasaki. Like Ohtani, he doesn’t have enough experience in the NPB, so he will be cheap and has to go through the arbitration process. As you see with them now, you see that you can never have enough pitching. Next year they’ll have Yamamoto, Ohtani, Sasaki, Glasnow, Kershaw, Bobby Miller, Tony Gonsolin, Dustin May… And the IL they have River Ryan and Gavin Stone. There’s also the dude they got from the Blue Jays for Lolz Mitch White!
I love everyone freaking out, to me this seems like a way of one team who would be ok with or without him simply playing poker or bidding at an auction simply getting the price to rise higher.
The Dodgers are NOT signing Soto. I’d put it at 0% chance but they could drive the price up and benefit on other FA signings like Burnes and Adames if others back out due to Soto escalation. Their presence could had an extra 100 million to the adventure.
Whatever team ends up with Soto, they will have over-paid a huge amount in terms of AAV and also in length of contract for an at-best, average OF that will become a full-time DH in the very near future.. As to Heyman, all he does is talk and most often it means little to nothing.
The Yankees desperately need to try everything to keep Soto. On the other hand, the Dodgers outfield is atrocious outside of Betts and Teo. And since Betts can play the infield, signing Soto should be the top priority for LA. Yankees and Dodgers are fighting for the World Series title now-will soon be fighting for Soto. Let’s start the bidding at 14 years $500 million?
He has said that he would love to play with Ohtani.
Soto’s next deal is expected to be over $600 million. That is over $500 million, but misses the point of just how much it will be. 14/600 to 15/650. something in that range.
If the Dodgers give Soto $40 million AAV, it will cost them nearly $90 million in 2025 including CBT fines.
Who cares
Can’t you wait till the world series is over before you starting writing about free agency
Baseball is such a level playing field
People complain that cheap owners don’t spend enough money and in some cases that’s true.
At the same time there is a huge revenue gap between teams.
Teams like the dodgers have local tv deals that pay them well over 200m a year. While others barely make a fraction of that. Until something changes with that gap there will always be a major difference in team spending. It’s not the dodgers fault it’s the system.
For those of you who say every owner is rich and can spend like the dodgers you are forgetting this is still a business. Nobody is going to run a team at a loss continuously. The Dodgers can spend all this money and still make a profit because of their revenue.
That’s good insight for when I do the Free Agent prediction game.
Soto to Dodgers – Freebie
It’s interesting with Soto … “were I him” I would just research/id the team and place I wanted to play and then sign with them, even if it wasn’t the biggest $ amount because it’s more than enough money for the rest of your life, regardless. Factoring in weather, I’d be looking at San Diego.
In fact, I wouldn’t even want the burden of getting the giant 600 million (why not a billion) contract, because of the pressure that brings. In the end, if it’s just the $$$ as the main criteria, then it mainly seems like an ego thing.
Lol..yeah, right.lol
“I wouldn’t even want the burden of getting the giant 600 million”
Ive.never heard anything so idiotic in my.life.
Really? In this country, I see/hear more idiotic things in the “paper” every day. Where have you been?
I’m serious, I’ll take 300-400 million and play exactly where I want, with a bit less pressure and more money available to make my team better. Of course if I really was Soto, I’d do exactly what he does.
I don’t think the Dodgers are going on another 1B spending spree this offseason. The optics of doing that would be awful. They’re going to spend for sure but not set the market again.
We’re at that near time in the off season where “fill in the blank team _____” articles arrive. When does the White Sox’s article on them being in on Soto drop?
Doesn’t seem right that just a couple teams can use projected earnings from next decade to get players now! I hope something happens to those earnings and they start to miss payments in the future.
Doesn’t seem right that just a couple teams can use projected earnings from next decade to get players now!
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Every team can do that. It doesn’t matter whether your payroll is $300M or $150M. You can still sign players willing to defer.
That’s basically what SS, pensions, and 401k’s are. You defer a portion of your current year salary in exchange for larger future payments.
If O’s owner Rubenstein meant what he said “next year” Soto would be a great get for the O’s and its young core.
Only 5 of the Top 20 2024 Teams WAR Leaders were acquired through Free agency. 6 were acquired in Trades and 9 came through their organizations and never reached free agency.
Spend on scouting and development, better chance at elite players than spending on free agency.
2024 too 20 WAR
Aaron Judge NYY FA
Bobby Witt Jr
Shohei Ohtani FA
Juan Soto Trade
Gunnar Henderson
Francisco Lindor Trade
Jarren Duran
José Ramírez
Elly De La Cruz
Chris Sale Trade
Ketel Marte Trade
Tarik Skubal
Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
Matt Chapman FA
William Contreras Trade
Zack Wheeler FA
Cal Raleigh
Jackson Merrill
Yordan Alvarez Trade
Bryce Harper FA
That’s what I have said
Management and scouting talent is critical
But most teams have neither
Like the white sox
That is a specious argument since so many of those were traded for then signed long term, high dollar deals with the team that traded for them. Betts and Lindor and the poster boys for that. Most of the rest have not reached FA yet.
Maybe they can drop another billion, that’d be cool
Of course! These scumbags will never stop. The greediest pigs on the planet. They “need” Soto to feed their animal fans. Just keeping buying superstars just like they’re buying their first legitimate title since 1988.
Also, is Kershaw coming back to d*ddy again next year? Can they stuff yet another purchased superstar into the rotation or eventually do they run out of roster spots?
Juan Soto is a bad character type of guy. In certain cases I would be apprehensive in signing him to a big contract
Anything to keep him off the Yanks
We need a salary cap along with a salary floor. This is just ridiculous. It’s good that the Dodgers are willing to dole out so much money to players but just having every free agent superstar go to one team is not good for the game.
Good,
Let the dodgers give him $600 million
I hope the yanks tell borass to go jump in a lake
I see Soto going to the Dodgers to win a World Series title or a few of them.Just defer his contract just like the others.What baseball needs though is fans to combine their money to buy their favorite teams.Spend said money to produce winning teams.Nobody likes theowners or management of their team.If they became the owners or management,Who could they criticize?Themselves for not doing enough?
The cities build the stadiums.
Maybe cities or non profits like a hospital system. Buy a team?
Why not START THIER OWN LEAGUE?
THAT WOULD.BE AWESOME.
why not?
Mlb would probably sue…..the govt.
I think it a.good.idea.
MLB teams pretend.to.be civic minded.
A.Civic league.
Go.to a baseball game, support.your community like all good Americans should…..
They ( mlb owners) take advantage of that concept….
Take it back!
If the Dodgers outbid everybody else and sign Soto on the heels of a WS victory, I don’t know what other sign fans and owners need to realize the present system needs to be scrapped. Whether it’s a salary cap, a salary floor, a revenue sharing model or something else we haven’t conceived of things cannot go on if this is the next result.
But the damage has already been done. The Dodgers have signed these guys for years and years. They will continue to dominate the sport. The league did not prevent this type of cycle from occurring and here we are. Forced to watch the Dodgers in probably every NLDS over the next 8 years.
Soto is really a 3 Tool player.
The 3 Tools are excellent but defensively he doesn’t get good reads on many balls that are catchable. His arm is slightly above average I guess, not super accurate. He is a below average baserunner, doesn’t steal bases. He was a key contributor when WASH won a World Series but they won because of superior pitching and timely hitting.
Why wasn’t Soto able to help the SDP more in about 1.5 years.?
Was there some personality/ego issues, managerial communication issues Tatis did have a PED suspension. Curious? I realize it is a team game and one player can only do so much BUT that is why I would try to build a team which creates the same offense over 3 or 4 players (with better defense and about the same salary) in event of injuries and slumps. Contracts in the length of 10-15 are asking for trouble
Commenter Gwynning probably has some good thoughts on the matter.
Mookie Betts is a player I’d rather have or of course Willie Mays, Roberto Clemente – many others like Ken Griffey Jr., Barry Bonds (before he used) IMHO
I mean, why in the world should they (Dodgers) have to compete on an even playing field?
MLB is an even playing field
Amateurs are drafted instead of open market
Draft Bonus pool money rules are the same for all teams
Player Development opportunity is the same for all teams
Service time and Contract rules including deferred monies are the same for all teams
Free Agent rules are the same for all teams
The Dodgers make just as many under the radar moves like buying Banda from the Guardians AAA team as they do major splashes like Ohtani. They also draft well, scout well, and use analytics well too.
It’s not like they have won 5 WS titles in a row and the game is broken.
I appreciate this. It’s still not even, but it is better than some make it out to be. It is more pronounced this year because it is the NYY v LAD. But last year, it was TX/AZ, and smaller market teams sneak into the WS.
And the draft doesn’t make up for a $300M payroll, but better draft picks for weaker teams creates a virtuous cycle.
Yes and no. Some of the things you list off are accurate in describing a level playing field. But then you do have to ask yourself how many teams can afford a deferred salary of $68 million per season for a 10-year period to a single player. There are only a few teams in the game who can afford such an acquisition unless you turn that deferred money into a much longer period such as 20 or 30 years.
The only teams that can defer salaries are the Dodgers, Mets, and Yankees. TX/ARI made it last year because both pushed their salaries to the brink and splurged before likely having a teardown sooner than later. Small market teams have to busy their bank accounts if they want a chance against the overpowered Dodgers.
The only interest Dodgers have in Soto is to make sure the price goes up, just like teams push Ohtani`s and Yamamoto`s contract way up.
Soto´s contract has two mayor problems:
His age (seeking 13-15 years)
His agent (he is going to dance till he gets everything)
I can see Dodgers interested in very short term deal High AAV like 110MM/2. No opt outs no trade clause.
Don’t count Padres out in Soto sweepstakes.
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Now its up to Sheel Seidler and Eric Kutsenda to decide if they are truly going to honor Peter’s legacy.
Ohtani structured his deal specifically for this reason. In fact he bet the dodgers would take this strategy
Just a snapshot of what will happen with salary caps…. Guys collectively agreeing to go to a team and dominate the sport. It’s why football and the NBA has such little parity.
This season Ohtani cost the Dodgers $96.81 million. That is his the $46.1 million AAV for CBT purposes and the CBT fines.
I think that would ruin baseball for a.lot of.people.
Signing Soto would stunt Pages’ career so I’d pass. They should fake interest in Soto to drive his contract up and use their resources to re-sign Buehler and Teoscar and put themselves in a position to make a run at Roki Sasaki when he’s posted.
Soto is getting paid whether or not the Dodgers are involved in the bidding.
They say this every year about every big name free agent, but the Dodgers are actually selective with how they give out big contracts and I sincerely doubt Soto fits that bill.
LAD isn’t signing Soto. They do not sign high-priced Boras guys to long-term deals. Doesn’t happen because they are smart.
They will save their money and buy Roki Sasaki instead.
I agree. I think he’s a priority target for them.
If Sasaki is allowed to come to MLB this offseason, he will be an international free agent and the most he can get is around $5-6 million no matter who he signs with. Technically a team can trade for up to 50% more than their current international free agent pool and even then the Dodgers would be limited to about $6 million.
Probably won’t happen but it would be pretty eye-widening for the league. I have to watch a Rays team that make, collectively, less money than a single player on the Dodgers. And the talent level is reflected in that.
If it happens the league should just separate the league based on big markets and small markets. California teams, Chicago Teams, and New England teams are in one league. The rest are in another league. Then the winners of each league can face off in the World Series.
The Dodgers will continue to set the market for star players. No other team can keep up.
No on Soto. No no no. Sign buehler, sign teo if he’s willing to stay at fair value and maybe go after max Freid. We need arms. Not bats.