The Tigers had interest in right-hander Will Warren during their trade talks with the Yankees this past summer, the New York Post’s Jon Heyman reports. The two clubs reportedly had a provisional agreement involving Jack Flaherty relatively close to being completed before New York backed out due to concerns over Flaherty’s medical records, though it should be noted that Heyman didn’t directly say that Warren was part of whatever trade package the Yankees were prepared to send to Detroit. Flaherty instead was dealt to the Dodgers for two position players, one of whom (Trey Sweeney) ended up playing an important role in the Tigers’ surprising late-season surge to a wild card berth.
Ironically, Warren ended up making his MLB debut on the trade deadline day of July 30, and he posted a 10.32 ERA over his first 22 2/3 innings in the big leagues. He also had a 5.91 ERA over 109 2/3 innings at Triple-A, though his minor league numbers were a little skewed by a nightmarish four-start stretch in May. Scouts and evaluators generally view Warren as a back-end starter or perhaps a long reliever at the MLB level, and while the Yankees naturally want to keep pitching depth on hand, Warren could be a relatively expendable prospect in terms of future trade possibilities (with Detroit or any other teams).
More from around the AL Central…
- Jerry Reinsdorf’s apparent willingness to discuss selling the White Sox has led to increased speculation that the team could be moved to a new city, though MLB commissioner Rob Manfred downplayed that idea in a recent appearance on FS1’s “Breakfast Ball” show. (Hat tip to Daryl Van Schouwen of the Chicago Sun-Times.) “Chicago is an anchor city for us. I think that the White Sox are in a difficult situation. I think the location of the stadium is tough, but I have confidence that things are going to work out in Chicago and that we’re going to continue to have two teams in Chicago,” Manfred said. This allusion to Reinsdorf’s desire to get a new ballpark built is another factor in the situation, and Van Schouwen hears that Reinsdorf “has grown increasingly skeptical” about the chances of civic and state officials signing off on a deal to built a new stadium for the White Sox within Chicago’s South Loop area. Of course, some gamesmanship could be at play here, Reinsdorf’s past threats to move the Sox to St. Petersburg in the late 1980’s helped get Guaranteed Rate Field built in the first place.
- Jac Caglianone’s power bat as a first baseman at the University of Florida helped make him the sixth overall pick of the 2024 draft, but the Royals prospect hasn’t given up on the idea of being a two-way player. “I’m the type of person where I get super driven and I get fixated on things,” Caglianone told The Athletic’s Noah Furtado. “So if I have the opportunity to do it, I’m going to jump on it. I won’t really accept failure. I’ll keep pushing at it until it clicks.” A Tommy John surgery in 2021 got Caglianone more focused on hitting and perhaps directed him towards Florida instead of entering the 2021 draft as a high schooler, and while Caglianone still showed premium velocity as a college pitcher, control is the big concern. The Royals have thus far used him only as a first baseman and DH during his brief pro career (in high-A ball and in the Arizona Fall League), but the club hasn’t entirely closed the door on Caglianone as a pitcher. As K.C. director of player development Mitch Maier put it, Caglianone’s potential is “a rare opportunity that has to be thought through.”
warnbeeb
Yankees did the Tigers a favor by backing out of that deal. Dodgers gave up more for Flaherty. Scott Harris did just fine on that trade.
Blackpink in the area
Tigers didn’t do just fine. Of course it’s with hindsight but they would have been better off keeping Flaherty. I understand why they didn’t but having made the postseason they kinda messed up by trading him.
Motor City Beach Bum
No they didn’tmess up Blackpink. They were effectively out of it and got back two very interesting pieces for the future. A number of recent reports predict Flaherty will resign with the Tigers in the offseason and he is a great fit there to slot back into the #2 spot. Harris was right to make the trade. I’m glad they didn’t trade with the Yankees as well.
Blackpink in the area
Dude your team made it to the playoffs and even won a playoff series. Having Flaherty could have meant a championship. It’s hindsight but with hindsight they should have kept him. Flags fly forever.
warnbeeb
Wrong. Trading Flaherty changed the entire makeup of the team that WENT TO THE PLAYOFFS. The Tigers won because they had a completely different lineup and mind set after Flaherty, Cana, Urshela, Chafin and Kelly were shipped out.
Tigers made out like bandits on those trades.
Harris and Hinch did an outstanding job.
Chicken In Philly?
You’re ignoring the contributions of Trey Sweeney. He solidified a position that was unstable for most of the year. The tigers were a better team after the trade.
Blackpink in the area
Couldn’t they have went and got a shortstop and still kept Flaherty?
Lloyd Emerson
Tigers probably wouldn’t have made the postseason if it weren’t for Sweeney, one of the guys they picked up in the deal from the Dodgers for Flaherty.
Motor City Beach Bum
“Pitching Chaos” worked though and got them there. Without the Flaherty trade maybe they never would have even tried it. Who’s to say. I hope they sign him back this offseason. Cheers dude.
kcmark
And Baez to the DL.
stymeedone
Like who? What SS was available after the Orioles refused to move Holliday? And supposedly that involved Skubal.
Blackpink in the area
Tommy Edman got traded. He can play shortstop. Thats an easy one because my team traded him. Another guy who is helping the Dodgers win a championship.
How can anyone say that the decision makers in the Tigers organization aren’t sitting around wondering what could have been had they kept Flaherty.
Chicken In Philly?
What shortstop of value was traded at the deadline, and who should they have given up? They were clearly in a position to cash in on Flaherty, and they did. It reaped immediate rewards
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Then they let Baez back in the clubhouse.
They IMMEDIATELY lost.
Jinx
Wouldn’t have happened with the Superfife on board!
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Actually….. it was the schedule.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Didn’t you look.at.the schedule?
Who.had they already played?
It was THE SCHEDULE!
Blackpink in the area
If it’s the schedule then the Tigers should have known better then to trade him away.
How often do you see a team trade away their number 2 starter and then that team makes the playoffs and the guy who was traded is starting game 1 of the world series? I can’t remember that ever happening before.
Stat_head
Tigers didn’t lose because they didn’t have a starter, they lost because they couldn’t generate enough offense against Cleveland. In game 4 Cleveland pulled ahead in the 7th & 9th inning. Flaherty would have pitched 6 innings max. The 7th game was Skubal and there is no universe in which Flaherty starts over Skubal. Sweeney made many key plays in the field and had some timely hitting. Lastly, pitching chaos got them to the playoffs. They don’t trade Flaherty, they don’t need to deploy that strategy so they don’t go on that winning streak.
Melchez17
The Flaherty deal was decent… I like Sweeney. I liked him when he was a Yankee. Liranzo I’m a little leery of. Not sure if he’s a catcher in the majors. I’m really curious what Harris wanted from the Yankees. The Yankees always over value their prospects. Maybe the next Greg Bird or Manny Banuelos?
The Tigers had to trade Flaherty though. That was the plan from the day they signed him. They needed to move him.
Motor City Beach Bum
I read they asked for Jorbit Vivas as part of the Erod deal last year and he is with the Yankees now (traded for Sweeney) so maybe that was part of it? I like him…on base machine with little power. I didn’t want to see Yankees prospects coming back to Detroit for prospects either though. Too many “can’t miss” flameouts.
Blackpink in the area
That was not the plan when they signed him. The plan was trade him IF the team wasn’t a contender. But the team ended up being a contender.
Motor City Beach Bum
They were under .500 when they traded him so they were NOT a contender at the time. The lengthy hot streak they went on to get back into contention couldn’t be predicted. It’s only been done 3 times in baseball history. By the time they got back into contention Flaherty was already gone. You’ll notice no one agrees with you.
Blackpink in the area
I understand they weren’t a contender at the time and i totally understand why they traded Flaherty. But considering they ended up being a contender trading him was a mistake. Skubal and Flaherty as a 1 2 punch could have led the team to a championship.
Don’t ever use others opinions to validate your own it’s lame as can be. Just don’t do it.
stymeedone
When the odds of making the playoffs is less than 3%, holding onto players with value, in their option year, is foolish, and can get a POBO, or GM fired. Harris took enough heat last year for the botched
E-Rod trade. Failing to move Flaherty was not an option.
Blackpink in the area
I will say it again. I completely understand why the Tigers traded away Flaherty.
WITH HINDSIGHT I think they would do things differently.
Motor City Beach Bum
Fair enough. Cheers dude.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
I looked at the schedule and said Holy* , they might make.the playoffs.
I posted it.
I don’t understand why anyone innthe FO can’t see.the things I see.
In any case, Harris had to make.the trade. Can you imagine.the flak if.he didn’t?
Lloyd Emerson
Reinsdorf would doubtlessly be the worst owner in Major League baseball if it weren’t for John Fisher. That putz has a lot of nerve expecting this city to give him money for a new stadium when he’s too stinking cheap to put together a decent roster.
ueckerlele
Couldn’t agree more. I don’t even care if they leave at this point. Talk about a depressing franchise. At least he was nice enough to create a new network no one can access. That way even in my weakest moments I won’t watch this sad excuse for a major league team. Don’t let the door hit ya’ where the good lord split ya’, Jerry. Bye!
NWI ChiBears
Easy buddy. Anyone can access it in the Chicagoland area. It’s available on DIRECTV and over air broadcast. Pick up an antenna for $20 and presto. You got CHGO.
ueckerlele
You’re right. I should have rephrased. No one with modern technology can access. I got rid of DirecTV in 2014 because it was a nightmare. Antennas? What year is this?
Paul Sullivan also wrote an article where he jumped through all the hoops, only to find out he needed another $50 part because his TV was TOO NEW for this stupid channel.
84LeFlore
Antennas? Yes. What year is this? 2024.
Have antennae been around for a while? Yeah. So has toilet paper. Anybody eager to bury that in the dustbin of history?
I bought an antenna for $50-60 and now have free TV. No more of Directv’s $79 packages turning into $127/month charges for 300 channels of crap.
ueckerlele
Yes, I bury all my toilet paper. Don’t you?
slidingintobase
Manfred doing Reinsdorf’s bidding. Location of stadium is fine. Just put a winning team on the field and it draws well. Develop the parking lots and it would do even better.
sjwil1
Manfred works for Jerry, didn’t forget that
avenger65
Manfred’s word is as good as Jerry’s. Sure, Chicago will always be a two team city. Except the one on the South side won’t be the one I’ve been a fan of since I was a kid, the one that is an original member if the AL when there used to be two leagues. It’ll be an expansion team. I have no desire to be a fan of a new team even if they still call it the White Sox, and I certainly would have no interest in the Nashville White Sox, or the Nashville Stewart34s.
seamaholic 2
Rockies and Angels fans would like a word.
A'sfaninLondonUK
@Lloyd Emerson
Even Reinsdorf enjoys competition. John Fisher provides it. I can only think 28 other owners breathe more easily with those two clowns on the block
stubby66
I think the city of Boston could put in an argument of the owner that sold Babe to the Yankees over a hundred years ago as one of the worst owners. I will be honest don’t know how anyone can live in the state of Illinois.
FartPocket
Mike Ilitch paid Rosa Parks’ rent for years without any fanfare.
John Fisher and Jerry Reinsdorf would have beaten her with a sock full of pennies if you offered them a Little Caesar’s coupon.
Dumpster Divin Theo
We’re all fans here! Love the woe is us camaraderie! A’s, White Sox, Red Sox, Angels, Pirate, Ray, Cub fans unite! Who else wants to pile on against their collective miserable ownership predicaments?
AHH-Rox
Don’t forget the Rockies in that conversation!
Something something Kris Bryant Ian Desmond Wade Davis something else.
Oldguy58
Dumpster, When fans see the owners going through the motions and doing more pretending than contending that’s what disgust the fans and gives us such feelings of hate towards the owners of the teams you listed. Reinsdorf and Fisher have taken it a step further and are giving the fans the extended middle finger
avenger65
Oldguy58: Couldn’t have put it better.
Serubian
not pitching Rodon against Houston in the 2021 playoff series. (smh)
Dumpster Divin Theo
Yeah was there. Didn’t help that Cease couldn’t get out of the 2nd inning that series…oh wait. That happened again !
Mikenmn
What’s the all-time record for one owner getting the taxpayer to stadiums for him? I think Reinsdorf is hoping to be a complier.
zacharydmanprin
Force both owners to sell. Move the White Sox to Las Vegas. The A’s are never going to get a ballpark built there. Let the A’s stay in Oakland.
avenger65
Or the Sox could stay in Chicago where they’ve been since 1903 and the A’s could move back to Philadelphia.
Dumpster Divin Theo
So feeling better after talking to some sources. The Manfred statement on 2 teams in Chicago is a hard message. Exercise leverage if you’d like, but if you sell, you’re going to be coerced to stay in town to another local owner.
nrd1138
Reinsdorf is a clown, sure the Sox could move to a better location in Chicago, just pay for it, Jerry… Why expect taxpayers to give you a sweet deal… AGAIN?
Jerry’s political buddies are all dead or long retired (and have no influence) in the Illinois legislature, and I hope Pritzker reminded him of that fact when ‘The Chairman’ went down recently to try to extort another deal out of Illinois.
His buddies are gone..
However, Id almost be willing to see a taxpayer assistance for a new stadium on three conditions:
Its a loan that the team pays back
That Jerry and his bunch sell the team first.
Jerry and his cronies cannot buy any real estate around the new stadium for at least 20 years.
cbrookhouzen
If Reinsdorf would sell or stop meddling in the hiring of key baseball people, the Sox would be much better off. Their location isn’t the problem. They draw when they win but he is the biggest reason they don’t and he has alienated their fan base.
Dumpster Divin Theo
They draw when they win and there are generations of fans who turn out in the summer as a rite of passage, combined with younger and city fans who find Sox games much more affordable than Wrigley.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Chicagoans here, talked to some baseball sources who confirmed that Manfreds message is a strong sign that the Stewart group- Nashville move is a bluff, and that if Jerry doesn’t get the stadium deal, which many people here agree is not likely, he’ll be encouraged to sell to other ownership consortia intent on keeping the team in Chicago, and there are other viable candidates stronger than the Stewart group. Sounds like a bluff combined with an effort by Stewart to draw attention to a Nashville bid. Expansion there is much more lucrative to the other 29 owners than a sale-transfer-move.