Dodgers manager Dave Roberts delivered some tough news to reporters this afternoon, as he indicated to the team’s beat (including Juan Toribio of MLB.com) that right-hander Tyler Glasnow has been diagnosed with a sprained elbow and will be shut down indefinitely, leaving him “highly unlikely” to pitch again in 2024. Glasnow suffered a setback in his throwing program yesterday and underwent testing that ultimately revealed the sprain.
The update is a devastating blow to a Dodgers rotation that has been in flux for much of the year due to injuries despite the extreme depth they came into the season with on paper. The 30-year-old Glasnow was an All-Star for the first time in his career during his debut season with L.A. and posted a 3.49 ERA with a 2.90 FIP and a 32.2% strikeout rate this year, but he was unfortunately limited to just 22 starts and 134 innings this season. While that volume falls short of a full season of work, both totals actually constitute career-bests for the righty, whose previous career-highs were set last year at 21 starts and 120 innings of work respectively.
Glasnow’s lack of durability throughout his big league career didn’t deter the Dodgers from dealing outfielder Jonny DeLuca and right-hander Ryan Pepiot to the Rays to acquire him alongside outfielder Manuel Margot this offseason, nor did it get in the way of the club finalizing an extension that guaranteed the right-hander just over $111.5MM in new money from 2025 to 2028. Pepiot, who has posted a 3.76 ERA in 23 starts with the Rays this year, has dealt with injury issues of his own this season, and given Glasnow’s success with the club when healthy the Dodgers surely don’t regret adding his top-of-the-rotation caliber arm to their starting mix.
That doesn’t make the news regarding Glasnow’s likely absence from their postseason run any less frustrating, however. The Dodgers laid out well over a billion dollars in guaranteed contracts this winter in pursuit of their first World Series championship in a full season since 1988 and in doing so added Glasnow, Shohei Ohtani, Yoshinobu Yamamoto, and Teoscar Hernandez to a core of players that already included stars such as Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts. While the additions of Hernandez and Ohtani have taken the club’s offense to new levels even in spite of absences from Betts and Freeman throughout the year, the rotation once again figures to be a significant question mark for the club this October without Glasnow to help stabilize things.
Yamamoto returned from the 60-day injured list earlier this month and figures to start Game 1 for the Dodgers this winter, with deadline acquisition Jack Flaherty standing out as their most likely contender to start Game 2. Who will follow those two in the club’s postseason rotation is not yet clear, however. Walker Buehler and Bobby Miller have both struggled badly in the majors this year with ERAs of 5.95 and 8.17 respectively, making them lackluster options to start potentially pivotal playoff games. Rookie Landon Knack has pitched fairly well in ten starts for the club this year, but the Dodgers surely would prefer a more experienced arm to follow Yamamoto and Flaherty.
Of course, the returns of other injured pitchers could help to bolster the club’s rotation ahead of October. Rookie Gavin Stone would be a tantalizing option given his 3.53 ERA in 25 starts this year, but the righty is currently on the shelf due to elbow inflammation with no clear timetable for return. Veteran southpaw Clayton Kershaw is also on the injured list, but has expressed hope that he’ll be able to return this year and would help to fortify the club’s rotation mix even as he’s posted a pedestrian 4.50 ERA in seven starts this year. Roberts also suggested earlier this week that there was a “very slim” possibility that Ohtani could be made available to pitch during the postseason, but it’s impossible to imagine the Dodgers changing their plans for the superstar based on today’s news regarding Glasnow.
He set career high for GS and IP this season. Never played a full season so this is no surprise to me that his season is now done.
He always gets injured, won’t be surprised if he gets another injury next year
Is the extension worth it if he pitches say 300 innings of 3.00 ERA ball in 5 seasons?
Depends if any of those innings are in the playoffs
Sadtormented- glasnow actually kind of makes Paxton look like an ironman by comparison for starts. Pax did have a like 3y period where he was relatively healthy and made high 20’s starts each season, something glasnow has yet to come close to doing 1 time.
He exceeded the average amount of starts per season that I had expected. I’m sure it’s no surprise to anyone and definitely not the Dodgers.
They came into the season with nearly a dozen possibilities for starters this season. The Dodgers plan it. That’s how you can have the best record in baseball and the most injuries, as well.
They don’t have the best record, the Phillies do. You need three solid starters to win in October, not “a dozen possibilities”. Its how they “can have the best record in baseball” and be out of the playoffs in 4 games…
Rsox
“You need three solid starters to win in October”
Citation requested
DodgerTroll – 2001 Arizona Diamondbacks won with two. Now, imagine having 3 solid starters. If you can grasp that concept, of course.
I’m sure you know something about baseball, maybe, and decided to troll Rsox as you could have solved this with one swift google search. That’s when you type in something you look up in a search engine.
Here to help as it is clear you need lots of it.
i_h
“2001 Arizona Diamondbacks won with two. Now, imagine having 3 solid starters. If you can grasp that concept, of course.”
The 2001 Yankees had Roger Clemens, Andy Pettitte, and Mike Mussina
Let me do some quick analytics here
Clemens, that’s one solid starter
Pettitte that’s two solid starters
Mussina that’s one…no, that’s not right. Mussina makes 3 solid starters
So what happened to the 3 solid starters theory?
“You need three solid starters to win in October”
Citation requested
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Does a statement like that really need a citation? You don’t carry a 5th, and seldom need a 4th.
JB
“Does a statement like that really need a citation? ”
Yes
The better your players are, the more likely you are to win. Of course.
But as pointed out, the 2001 Yankees had 3 solid starters – and lost
The 2001 DBacks really just had 2 and won
The 2015 Royals might not have had any
It’s just not true that you need 3 solid starters to win
dbacks had the best 2 starters in the entire sport so not the best example
Citation requested is code for ‘I am an airhead’.
SaS
“Citation requested is code for ‘I am an airhead”
Yes. Wanting people to support their assertions is airheaded
Brilliant take
Maybe if you requested more citations you wouldn’t believe so much false information
To be fair (to be fair) 3 solid starters versus 2 stud starters, what do you choose? Clemens and Pedro would also like a word.
Recall many teams of the past winning with 3 solid starters. This does not seem controversial unless we review the person that stoked this conversation with a rather farcical response.
DB – Unlike you, I understand what is being said. I do not need to ask.
SaS
“To be fair (to be fair) 3 solid starters versus 2 stud starters, what do you choose? Clemens and Pedro would also like a word.”
So, you agree that 3 solid starters isn’t a hard and fast rule?
“Unlike you, I understand what is being said. I do not need to ask”
I agree that you understand a false things that I do not understand
Dodgersbro,
I’m a Yankee fan, but I will assure you, I would’ve rather had the two Arizona pitchers than the three Yankee pitchers. Clemens, Pettitte, and Mussina were all good pitchers, but Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling were absolutely dominant flamethrowers, perfect for a short series. Even so, the Yankees should’ve won it, though, had Rivera not thrown the ball into center field on an easy double play ball, in the bottom of the ninth, or if the Yankees would’ve had home field advantage like they should have, being that they had the better record. The home teams won every game of that series, and that alternating league BS, for home field, bit the Yankees in 2001. Yeah, I’m still salty about that, 23 years later!
Well said Keena. No citation requested. I understand you perfectly.
I’m so happy he exceeded your expectations. Means a lot
If they planned for this and extended him accordingly they would be the dumbest team in MLB. It’s pretty evident that with Yamamoto, Glasnow and Stone, and other SPs coming back from injuries they went on a 5 days rest and pseudo 90-100 pitch limit with the hopes that this would cut down on injuries. It didn’t. They gambled with Glasnow and they lost. They weren’t aiming to have the best record in baseball. They were trying to preserve SPs for postseason and it didn’t work.
He’s 31. It’s not like he’s in his mid to early 20’s or something
Yeah. A whopping 134 innings. Wow.
Pyrrhic victory for the Dodgers; they kept him healthy for one more start than the Rays ever could…
When asked about the uptick in arm injuries, Glasnow was quoted as saying something to the tune of, if given the choice, guys will max out every pitch in order to get paid.
So, if nothing else, at least we know he’s a man of his word.
In all seriousness, his build and violent delivery made this sort of result predictable. Hopefully he can return without undergoing the knife.
There’s a difference between getting shut down because you exceeded last years innings, and being shutdown due to injury for exceeding last years innings
The guy is insanely talented, his body just can’t contain his talent
Shocked
Who saw THAT coming??
Teehee at the Dodgers
Just got to wish him luck and hope he’s not looking at TJ Surgery. Too many pitchers are going through this
134 innings. What a workhorse.
Some people aren’t meant to be starters, at least full time
This is terrible news. Very sad for the Dodgers and Tyler. He is someone that is NEEDED in the rotation. Just… damn. Swift recovery.
Next man up. Dodger still in first place. Yamamoto is back. Kershaw just needs a tow truck. Landan has a Knack for pitching.
when you have a flat tire call a man with a Jack (Flaherty).
Yup, Flaherty is probably pitching game 1.
Definitely NOT Miller time.
Walker is getting the post-season off.
Sadly, Gavin looks out Stone cold. (Hope I’m wrong.)
Flaherty, Yamamoto, Kershaw, Knack.
Agree not Miller. Probably not Buehler.
Doubt Kersh will be ready.
If no Stone, big problem.
Kershaw may not pitch in September, but he will be ready in October.
even though LAD is shorthanded, Kersh: I hope not. It may be Shotime.
What if Yamamoto isn’t fully recovered or has a setback and what if Flaherty’s back acts up on him again? Actually the Dodgers thought they had depth but you cannot rely on so many guys who had recent injuries or are prone to injury. Miller, Grove, and Yamamoto were probably their only guys without a history of injuries. That’s not ideal planning.
WS Game 7, final out, Ohtani strikes out Judge. Even David Fletcher wouldn’t bet on that happening.
So in other words our offense has to score 7 runs a game to win a playoff series?
where do i sign?
Advice for 2025 to the Dodgers: Start Glasnow in mid- June if you want him late in the season.
That does not always work. See Jordan Montgomery.
Maybe just pitch Glasnow three or four innings a start until September?
Yeah, piggybacking him with Miller or something to try to get both right might be a good approach early on.
That’s really tough to have 2 roster spots for 7 innings every 5 games
It doesn’t need to be–and shouldn’t be–a long-term approach. Just carry 7 relievers to start, try to get Miller right and try to tamper down Glasnow’s IP early.
Dusty
“That’s really tough to have 2 roster spots for 7 innings every 5 games”
If a pitcher goes twice through the order, 18 batters faced, they could pitch as many as 6 innings. More likely between 4 and 5.
Most games the “starter” could go 4 innings. The piggybacker could go another 4. And use one other reliever.
If you did that for 30 starts, you’d get 240 innings out of the duo. That’s equivalent to an 180 IP starter and 60 IP reliever.
That is in no way realistic to have them go 4 innings consistently. Cmon
Or maybe make him pitch differently. Like all the pitchers should be doing already. These “high velocity” camps and other variants are ruining pitching. It’s way past time to change the formula.
Teams should do that with players when they are younger. The problem is that everyone is desperate to get their first big contract.
The thing they don’t understand is if they take a little off and locate better they are more likely to last long enough to get that contract and actually may pitch better. The problem is when they are young that’s when the velo makes them stand out most to scouts and gms. So you can’t teach them that young because their main goal is to get noticed and make it to MLB. Take Fried. He has been having elbow problems but he can throw 97 but chooses not to and tries to get early outs by getting weak contact. He is able to do that because not being max effort allows him to locate better. If he were trying to throw 97 every pitch he’d almost certainly have been hurt worse by now. And now he’s lined up for a big deal.
Sprained elbow is Dave Robert’s speak for needing TJ surgery. He said that about May and Goslin.
“Sprain” means some degree of tear, right?
A sprain can be a stretched ligament or a tear in the ligament.
Considering he had UCL surgery recently, that sounds ominous.
Feels like momentum building for LAD’s offer to Fried, ignoring his recent arm troubles.
Another injury prone pitcher — right up dummy Friedman’s alley…
To RDMC & Neon Cop; you both hit the nail on the head! I hope the front office, pitching coaches & training staff look long & hard at this issue this offseason & come up with something to help their pitchers. Then it has to be sold to the pitchers! This cannot continue as it has! For the Dodgers pitchers, this has been getting worse each year.
FWIW, the arm issues (and Fried being from OC) could be a devil in disguise, getting him to take either less money and/or deferred money. LAD has the upper hand as I doubt ATL will have a competitive bid, most likely bidding against TEX and/or someone else (NYM?).
The Dodgers have the deepest pockets and Glasnow pitching a half of a season as one of the best arms in the game clearly provides real value.
That said it is still wild that he secured a 120m deal that will pay him 32.5m each of the next three years and then with another 20m player option tacked on after that.
He made 21 starts last year (pre signing deal) and never even made 15 starts in any other season. Has another arm managed to land that kind of guarantee with a similar track record?
I looked at his career numbers and then Degrom’s and it’s easy to forget that Degrom made almost every start over a 6 year period. The past 3-4 years have obviously been rough. Without a refresher I would have thought their situations were more similar. Probably silly since one is a CY Young winner, ROY, multi time all-star while the other just made his first all-star team.
All that said and I doubt the Dodgers were all of a sudden expecting 30 starts from him each year and they’ll probably win 70% of the games he does start. Just a unique situation and player.
Pitching half the season at half the price might might provide real value, but even then it depends on who has to pitch the other half season. At least Pepiot would have allowed more resources to go to a healthier starter.
Yeah and people say Friedman is a good GM.
I am result oriented. I would say Friedman is a very good POBO. Just not a great one.
Couldn’t have a more fitting last name for baseball! Doomed from the word “GO!”
Soooo…back in 2026?
No surprise. Guy should convert into a closer. He doesn’t have the ability to remain on the field for a full season and throw starter innings. Focus on being a 1 or 2 inning closer and he’ll be more valuable to the team.
Not everyone can close, and paying $30MM to someone who has never done it is kind of foolish. Of course, they paid Price to pitch out of the pen, so it would show they don’t learn from mistakes. That’s why I don’t see it happening.
Well least this years inevitable dodger collapse will be due to injuries instead of under performance. Guys being injured will help dodger fans cope better I suppose. Tough break though. Well wishes for Glasnow. Maybe a name change is in order.
Solidnow
Sturdynow
Isn’t not playing the full season a type of under performance?
Nick, it’s Stone’s shoulder: not the elbow.
SHOCKER…not. Guy is Glass Joe. Glad the Dodgers are stuck with paying him another $120M
Well, they’ve got Jordan Lyles available to pitch (sarcasm)
Gavin Stone is 79th in the entire league in number of pitches thrown with 2152. He leads the Dodgers and is 79th highest in Major League Baseball. No one in the Dodgers is out there much and it shows you how bad the injuries to the starting staff have been. For them to still be among the best records in the league is amazing and they haven’t gotten contributions from Buehler or Miller other than being warm bodies because they’ve mostly been brutal. Just a testament to their depth and ability to win despite injuries.
Bring back spider tack.
Would rather have all the injuries and this record than have a bunch of mediocre pitching who are out there for 250ip per season and be around .500.
Speak for yourself. I’d rather not watch fastballs all day. I prefer location and movement. And for the best pitchers to actually play!
It’s a comment section. Everyone speaks for themselves. That’s a given.
A pitcher who handles 250 innings in today’s game is an Ace. They would have to pitch 7+ innings for 35 starts while keeping around 100 pitches per start. No team will get 250 from a single starter this year. It may be possible with a long playoff run, but if he only played .500, the team didn’t make the playoffs.
Friedman will have to own this one. There really is no hiding in trading for him and then extending him. Did they seriously think that he’d be available for postseason? I think it’s evident that load management and extra days off will not prevent Glasnow from getting hurt. You wonder if Ohtani is in the same boat when he starts pitching again. Dodgers not the best at avoiding injuries to SPs. And they seem dismissive about spotty injury track records.
I wonder what Roki Sasaki is thinking regarding the Dodgers today. With his own health issues and their track record of lots of SP injuries, I would be surprised if they are his top choice today since it’s not going to come down to money.
Hope they do back off of Sasaki. You can’t have all your pitchers have checkered injury histories. It will be a repeat of this season. It’s great to throw hard but if there’s a good chance they’re not going to be available in postseason what’s the point? I wonder if at some point instead of training pitchers to throw as hard as possible they’ll focus on pitchers preserving their bodies and avoiding injuries. Or if there is a happy medium in the middle.
@mlbdf; I would rather see Ohtani give up pitching. He really upped his offensive game this year, need him, his bat & running in the game every day. Would like to see him in RF, Edman in center & Teoscar in left. That puts Betts back at 2nd. Also allows Rushing to break in slower. Sign Adames to play ss.
They may have to go that route at some point if he gets hurt pitching again. But given the money given out and trying to extract as much value from Ohtani he’ll definitely pitch for the foreseeable future.
Who didn’t see this coming? Gave a 5 year extension to an injury prone pitcher who has only made 20 plus starts and pitched 100 plus innings once in his career.
Overrated Friedman strikes again.
His contract is market value. It’s still a fine deal
He never hit the market, so we won’t ever know, but unless you were using deGrom’s contract on how much to pay a pitcher not to pitch as comparison, I doubt you would find another team who would have paid that much.
RE Sam
“but you paid “market value” for it – a price set by the sale price of similar cars with that year, make, model, and components.
1/2 of the first year the car doesn’t run. You leased it for 5 years so there’s a reasonable question about the remaking 4.
You call that a “fine deal”?”
Yes.
You should factor in the likelihood of the car needing repairs into the price. That’s why, you know, a used car costs more than a new car.
*That’s why, you know, a used car costs more than a new car.
Less. Of course. That’s why a used car costs LESS than a new car
And that’s why Glasnow got less AAV than, say Justin Verlander or Max Scherzer.
LOL
Not if he can’t pitch.
Lets say you lease a used car that’s had a record of constantly breaking down, but you paid “market value” for it – a price set by the sale price of similar cars with that year, make, model, and components.
1/2 of the first year the car doesn’t run. You leased it for 5 years so there’s a reasonable question about the remaking 4.
You call that a “fine deal”?
amk1920, I have a used car that ran great 2-3 years ago. I got it washed, waxed, and tuned up. You want to buy it for “market value”? Am sure it’ll be a “fine deal” for you.
Market value? Fine deal? I want to do business with you.
DSC
“who has only made 20 plus starts and pitched 100 plus innings once in his career.”
This is misleading. Either through ignorance or purposefully.
2014 23 GS 124 IP
2015 22 GS 109 IP
2016 26 GS 140 IP
2017 28 GS 155 IP
2023 25 GS 133 IP
Plus another 11 starts and 112 innings in 2018
If you’re talking about his availability/durability there’s no reason to exclude his minor league time.
Topped 150 in his professional career once. 1x!!!!! And where’s 2019, 2021 and 2022? Why keep 2018 in text form. Very spotty record. He’s never had a season where he’s made all 32-33 starts. NEVER!! And many seasons he hasn’t come close to that.
Also, as you can’t time injuries there’s always a good chance he won’t be available to pitch in postseason. That’s the guy you want to roll with as a frontline SP? Some serious risk management issues with Friedman and company. As much as he’s a talented GM he’s too dismissive about injury track records.
Mlbdf
“And where’s 2019, 2021 and 2022?”
Obviously he didn’t make 20 starts and 100 innings
“Why keep 2018 in text form. ”
He pitched over 100 innings but because he was used in relief only had 11 starts.
”
He’s never had a season where he’s made all 32-33 starts. NEVER!! And many seasons he hasn’t come close to that.”
But he has frequently made 20 starts and 100 innings. The claim was he had only done so once.
“Some serious risk management issues with Friedman and company”
Who is to say
Perhaps most people are too risk averse
Friedman is so clueless, as usual. Who could’ve anticipated Glasnow would get injured? LOL
Dude is made of glass and knew he would break again eventually.
Don’t worry. Snell and/or Sasaki will be Dodgers next season. Maybe both.
Help is on the way because the Dodgers will be in contention next season, too.
Tyler Glasnow is to pitching what Byron Buxton is to position players.
To be fair, few took dates in September in Glasgow’s injury pool
rays were sweating he might make it to the playoffs
Why would they care?
Seems like he should try out high leverage relief? I get the desire to start and pitch til the ole ball coach comes out, but wouldn’t you rather not be hurt all the time?
I guess other than stating the obvious, would his stuff even play out of the pen?
Dodgers are having problems with their Droids??
Death, taxes, and the dodgers pitching staff being decimated by injuries in time for the playoffs
He got his money, he’s good. Good luck in the playoffs. He’ll be watching on TV.
Dodgers have made a ton of smart moves over the years. They have been consistently successful under Friedman for a reason. However, the Glasnow contract got me scratching my head big time. All you have to do is look at his extensive track record showing that he has an extremely hard time stating healthy. He’s like the Byron Buxton of pitchers, and they’re paying him 30 mil a year for it.
They have been consistently successful due to $$$$$$$$$$$.
Another expert in knowing the future after it happens.
Lol, you’re saying you didn’t see it coming? Doesn’t exactly take a lot of foresight. The dude is 30 and has never pitched more than 120 innings or so until now. Look at his war totals per year. The contract they gave him was perplexing.
I never understood what the big deal about Glasnow was. Sure he’s had three seasons with a sub 2.70 era but in those three seasons he pitched 12, 14 and 2 starts.
He was part of the Tampa Rays hype machine in which the press lifted to “pitching whisperer/guru” heights…..
Irony alert.
BlueSkies_LA8 hours ago
Another expert in knowing the future after it happens.
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This is not like predicting an injury to a pitcher that regularly throws 175 innings. I’m not in the injury-predicting business, but this is hardly 20/20 hindsight.
Sure it is. Teams have access to a player’s complete medical history, but from reading comments here you’d have to assume the real sports medicine experts are the wild guessers on the internet who look at some numbers and think they know more than the people do and are actually spending the money. So this is the irony alert.
Guess what man? He got injured prematurely, once again, on the very first year of the contract. So what’s your argument about?
Wildly guessing? You are showing your intelligence level. This isn’t some guy that been in the bigs for a couple years. He’s been here for almost a decade. There was likely some kind of emotional attachment involved, because there was not much sound logic involved with that contract. And to think they also traded two young players for him, and immediately signed him to that contract. No front office is perfect, and for you to defend them like they can do no wrong is almost cult-like.
Emotional attachment? This is your best argument? And you think you can question someone else’s intelligence?
I can’t see the LAD getting past the 1st round of the playoffs. I definitely think they get knocked off and don’t make the World Series, Just a judgement
Somewhat related point I don’t know why the SF felt the need to give a 6 year extension to Chapman. I can see an extension of 3-4 maybe 5 years but 6 years. He’s had right labrum and femur.surgery in 2020.
2 of the years overlap his existing 3 year deal .
His prior injuries may not age well – e.g. effect his offense (esp. power th) and his defense flexibility/bending down to field ground balls
I mean good for him. I realize SF needs upgraded offense. They have been wanting to sign a major player for years but fell short for various reasons. (Judge, Correa)
SF have focused more on their pitching which is a good strategy. Hard to compete in the division the last 5 years or so with LAD, AZ, SDP etc.
SF will definitely sign or trade for 1 A- or maybe (2) players to upgrade their offense. Good for them.
POBO Farhan Zaidi just got an extension and Manager Bob Melvin is in his first year have their plan I guess. If I was a SF I would be generally optimistic.
Does MadBum have a son the SF can draft in the near future?
Robbie Ray should really help (just stay healthy, right?)
RIP to Willie Mays and Roberto Clemente
Congratulations to all the nominees and winners of the Robert Clemente Awards
Melvin came down on his players hard and publicly after yesterday’s game and two that didn’t want to be quoted said maybe he should have been more involved all year. Gibes with what Padres fans on here said about him last year.
One could make any argument but then one would have to back it up with facts one cited. What factual argument would one make that a team suffering this extent of injuries still posting the second-best record in baseball is underachieving and abysmal? One waits for one’s argument. One expects to hear crickets.
team will need to score 8 runs a game from here on in. unfortunately the offense has stagnated. sure davey robots will have them inspired and ready to compete come playoffs. doesn’t really matter if he does he’s going to be the forever DEI manager w built in excuses for another decade.
Yes he must be managing the team totally in opposition to the FO game plan, especially to have caused so many injuries.
yeah because that’s exactly what my point was davey fanboi
What? Your comment better make dollars because it sure doesn’t make sense.
Shocking
The scene is set for an early exit from the playoffs. The Doyers M.O.
Roberts delivers bad news dodgers rotation fell apart and enlightened the crowd by announcing he won’t back next year.
Pitch in winter? Japan series? It’s fall classic
No problem because according to this article Game 1 won’t be played until this winter.
So I guess his elbow is Glas Now ?
At what point does Friedman need to be held accountable for constantly signing or in this case trading for injury risks. It’s almost laughable how bad it’s gotten under his watch.
To be honest, these days, any signing or trade involving a pitcher, is a risk.
Glasnow, with his history, was an extreme risk. One that was almost certain to come back and bite them…and now it has.
100% the right take, it’s not just Glasnow, however he is symbolic of every staff put together by Friedman. At the beginning of the year you looked at that staff and thought how are they going to manage everyone’s workloads given no one was stretch out and that was just the regular season, let alone the post season. Then at the deadline when there were issues they got, drum-roll….. 1 starter.
LADFO build regular season rosters instead of October rosters. 2020* is a complete outlier, rosters built by this FO aren’t built to win a full regular season AND October, they never ever had/have the requisite pitching unless the season is reduced to 60 games.
Pitching and defense win in October, the ability to grind runs wins in October, deep high leverage bullpens win in October. Good pitching beats good hitting in October. This formula for roster building is not a secret yet is NOT followed by this LAD front office EVER and they have the World Series parades to show for it.
Can’t fire Friedman without triggering Ohtani’s opt out yet the LAD front office is a literally Einstein’s definition of insanity their whole tenure. Freidman wasted Kershaw’s prime, now he’s doing the same to Betts and Freeman, this is Ohtani’s age 30 season
sfjack
“Pitching and defense win in October”
Not really
“Good pitching has nice chances against good hitting, but not so good that the game’s outcome is anywhere close to inevitable just because an ace is on the mound.
The phrase is useful, but not controlling or predictive of a short series; it’s more a silver nugget of baseball truth than it is a gold one. Good pitching beats good hitting … except when it doesn’t.”
tht.fangraphs.com/does-good-pitching-beat-good-hit…
2008. Stats don’t back that up over the last 16 years.
Take a look who has had WS parades the past 10-15 years and how those teams were constructed and even how the teams who lost were constructed. “Good” was a poor choice of words, top of the rotation is the correct word(s). The end of 2010’s was a juiced ball, we all know that now but even then it’s all about arms; front of the rotation and high leverage bullpen.
You all think the LAD are constructed for a deep run, or just think playoffs are SSS and you’re happy with the 90’s Braves “run” more power to you, then again at least they got a parade
afj
All I’m asking is for anyone to present some evidence
You know why no one does? Because their belief isn’t based on evidence.
I mean, the only person who tried to present any evidence…
[PigWhoPoopedOnTheirTesticles.jpg]
“Teams need three solid starters to win! Here, look at the 2001 DBacks who won with 3 minus 1 starters”
I mean, come on
LOL
Where’s the evidence the LAD front office is doing it right? The evidence for all the other teams are World Series parades. They are AWESOME, I’ve been to 3,
Either you believe October baseball is different or you don’t, I do. LADFO believes it’s SSS and their rosters’ construction and every trade deadline are proof of what they believe. Where there isn’t proof is that their roster construction can win in October.
You don’t get parades for winning the NL West or for having a top 10 farm system. Personally if i was a LAD fan I’d be pissed, This team has gotten old(er), top heavy, and expensive. Next year will be age 32, 34, 35 for Betts, Muncy, Freeman, remember when this team was young?
They should be concerned it was Yamamoto’s shoulder, they should be concerned about Buehler’s performance post his 2nd TJ as Ohtahi will be attempting the same in 2025, that Kershaw is turning into Rich Hill, and no one is stretched out for a full season workload in 2025 with the exception of maybe Stone.
Rural
“At what point does Friedman need to be held accountable for constantly signing or in this case trading for injury risks”
Why would he need to be accountable for that?
He’s accountable for making the team money, which they are doing hand over fist.
Likely, he’s accountantable for winning, which the team has done more of than any other team in baseball since he took over.
That’s the dodgers way. Make as many free agent signings see what sticks. Remember the dodgers went through a period of signing every top international free agent even though some were years away from reaching the majors. Only a few did.
Glasnow has earned more while doing less than 99% of the pitchers in the league…..7 years of “active” pitching and take a look at the results….he and “the big maple” should have a special place in the record books……
Rocky
“Glasnow has earned more while doing less than 99% of the pitchers in the league….”
130 pitchers have 650+ innings since 2016 when Glasnow debuted (Glasnow has 663 innings). He is 66th in fWAR during that time. Right in the middle of the pack.
He certainly has not done less than 99% of the pitchers in the league.
What planet are you on homophobe?
Flaherty was the prime starter acquisition at the deadline. On our planet at least. What was it on yours?
Both sides did well… si.com/mlb/tigers/news/re-grading-the-jack-flahert…
awful news but if you told a dodger fan back in march that glasnow would make 22 starts they’d have been ecstatic
dasit
“if you told a dodger fan back in march that glasnow would make 22 starts they’d have been ecstatic”
No. His median projection was for around 22 starts. I wouldn’t have been ecstatic
Dodgers theme song this year should be “Another Bites the Dust”