The Giants already extended one potential free agent by when they inked third baseman Matt Chapman to a six-year, $151MM contract that overrode the remaining two years and $34MM on his previous pact and negated the opt-out clause he was sure to exercise. Now, the recruiting pitch for another likely opt-out candidate is on. Giants righty Logan Webb appeared on Chris Rose’s podcast this week and suggested he’s doing everything he can to convince Blake Snell to re-sign on a longer-term deal and plant roots in the Bay Area (YouTube link, with Snell talk beginning at the 18:15 mark). Asked by Rose how he can help make sure Snell is back with the Giants in 2025, Webb replied:
I’m going to do everything [I can]. I don’t know how that’s all going to work out. I kind of hope they do what they did with Chappy — start conversations now, so we’re not bidding against other teams. I’m sure there’s teams in our division that are going to try hard to get him. Teams need good starting pitching, and he’s been the best in baseball since the beginning of July. It’s been awesome to watch, and he’s one of my favorite teammates. Hopefully we do everything we can to get him back.
He didn’t have a spring training, right? … He was kind of scuffling. I think he was doubting himself a little bit. And then, all of a sudden, look what happens when he gains some confidence. He’s back to Blake Snell. He’s a two-time Cy Young Award winner. Not many guys are two-time Cy Young Award winners, and you can see it when he throws. He’s throwing pellets. It’s unbelievable, as a lefty. I don’t know how anybody hits this. We’ve got to do everything we can to get him back. I do think he should be a big part of our future going forward.
Webb noted to Rose that he doesn’t plan to campaign to the front office in unprompted manner — though public-facing comments of this nature are in a way indirectly doing so — but would offer his opinions and any feedback if asked. It’s clear that Webb, a perennial Cy Young candidate himself, values Snell’s on-field contributions as well as the left-hander’s presence in the clubhouse.
The assertion that Snell has been baseball’s best arm dating back to early July is hard to argue, too. Snell’s no-hitter gained plenty of attention, but as I explored in a piece for Trade Rumors Front Office subscribers a couple weeks ago, Snell has picked up his annual second-half momentum and looks to be back in Cy Young form. He obviously won’t win the award this season after a dismal start to the season that included him twice landing on the injured list, but since returning from his latest IL stint on July 9, Snell has a 1.45 ERA in 68 1/3 innings. He’s punched out a gaudy 36.5% of his opponents, offsetting a higher-than-average 10.5% walk rate, and allowed two or fewer runs in 11 of his 12 starts (the exception being a three-run, six-inning quality start on Aug. 7).
That run of dominance makes Snell’s opt-out an easy call — the alternative would be a $30MM player option for the 2025 season — but it’s not clear whether the front office has engaged with agent Scott Boras (who also reps Chapman). The Giants have been reluctant to make weighty long-term offers to free agent pitchers under the current front office regime. Webb’s five-year, $90MM extension is the largest contract the Giants have given to a pitcher under president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi in both years and dollars. They haven’t signed a free agent for more than three years (Anthony DeSclafani’s $36MM deal) or for more than a total of $44MM (Carlos Rodon’s two-year deal). Snell should breeze past both marks.
Snell isn’t the only Giant whose future is uncertain, of course. The Giants have a wide slate of potential free agents but also some borderline arbitration calls. Outfielder Mike Yastrzemski spoke with Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle about his own status. The 34-year-old is owed a raise on his $7.9MM salary this offseason and has turned in a fairly typical season by his standards, slashing .237/.310/.441 with 15 home runs and quality defense in right field.
Yastrzemski has been a fine value at his current salary, but an arb raise could push him north of $10MM. For a player in his mid-30s who’s unlikely to return to his standout 2019-20 form, that could be present a difficult decision as the non-tender deadline approaches in November — particularly since the Giants have a number of younger outfield options. Heliot Ramos has solidified himself in the 2025 outfield, and center fielder Jung Hoo Lee will be back next year after undergoing shoulder surgery that ended his season back in May. Grant McCray, 23, has looked a bit over his head in 85 plate appearances so far (.247 OBP, 41% strikeout rate), but he had a decent showing in Triple-A this year. He and/or Luis Matos could push into the picture next season.
Perhaps there’s a scenario where Yastrzemski is more of a part-time player, but his salary could be steep for that role. He made clear to Slusser he hopes to be back, however, even mentioning a willingness to sign a two-year deal that’d lower his contract’s average annual value. We don’t typically see players heading into their final arbitration season voice willingness to sign for only two years, but Yastrzemski is older than most players with five-plus years of service and also spoke of how he’s “grown so in love with” the organization, the stadium, the clubhouse and the city itself.
Slusser also adds that outfielder Michael Conforto, a free agent at season’s end, is hoping to return to San Francisco. It’s difficult to envision a scenario where both Yastrzemski and Conforto are back next year, however, as the Giants will want to earmark playing time for Ramos and Lee and surely want to leave the door open for at-bats for younger outfielders like McCray and Matos. One of Conforto or Yastrzemski, at most, seems feasible.
The 31-year-old Conforto has never regained his star-level form after undergoing shoulder surgery two years ago, but he’s popped 16 homers for the Giants this season while batting .229/.307/.430. He’s been about 7% better than average after weighting for his home park, by measure of wRC+, but he’s also sitting on the lowest full-season walk rate of his career (9.3%) and his highest strikeout rate (25%) since 2017.
Conforto likely won’t come close to the two-year, $36MM contract he received from the Giants two offseasons ago this time around. Familiarity with the player could prompt some interest in a reunion from the San Francisco front office, but he hasn’t been a handily above-average bat since 2020 at this point. A modest one- or two-year deal could be the outcome this offseason, and a Giants club hoping to establish more of an offensive identity moving forward might prefer to shuffle the lineup rather than largely maintain the status quo.
UWPSUPERFAN77
Both YAZ and Conforto should prepare for pay cuts to stay in SF. If not, time to move on. You are in a great division. If you do not improve significantly, by getting younger, you are doomed for 4th place next year. You guys are great fans, who deserve the best, but your current team is only average.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Conforto is gone, they do not want him even if he took one year at 7-8 million.
Yaz is likely back on a one year deal.
goob
Yep, the bats are roughly equivalent but Yaz comes with more D and a little more speed.
Butter Biscuits
Non tender Yaz and trade for Belli, cubs would be happy to shed some salary for bigger fish
mlb fan
“Why would they take pay cuts”..Because there are dozens of minimum salary players outperforming(or matching) guys like Michael Conforto for starters.
camdenyards46
Their contracts are up why would the Giants give them more money when they haven’t been that good
deweybelongsinthehall
No one is paying Confirti $18m next year so if he wants to play, a cut is the only option,. I’d offer Yaz the two years he wants but only at $m per. I’d want Yaz back only. Just my take
vtadave
I guess a 2 WAR guy like Yaz is worth his $7.9 million, but he’s also 34, and a guy like Zaidi may feel he can fill that slot for a lot less.
padam
I wouldn’t pay Conforto $18M for two years, nonetheless one year.
FemboySportsFan!
average? Yaz has been a well above average player in his time in San Fran, even this year…2.0 WAR, 113 OPS+ .750 OPS, to be fair he doesn’t walk alot, but he hits a lot of XBH…and he’s just been above average in his career in general.
superunclea
actually 0.0 is average. 2 is above that.
JRamHOF
Average =/= replacement level
camdenyards46
0 is the average AAAA player you can get on the waiver wire… 2 is average for MLB
Pads Fans
2.0 WAR is the definition of average.
Ezpkns34
2+ WAR batters vs total batters with 300+PAs by year:
2023 – 129/293
2022 – 118/277
2021 – 128/262
2+WAR batters vs total qualified batters by year:
2023 – 86/134
2022 – 85/130
2021 – 95/132
For the record, Yaz’s fWAR hasn’t been above 2 since 2021
Jean Matrac
For the record Yaz’s bWAR has been 2.0 or over every year of his career, totaling 14.2 for 6 years. That’s an average of 2.37 per season.
mab51357
Thanks Jean. Yaz is very good on defense. Especially plays a lot in right field with all the crazy surfaces the ball can bounce off. Very good arm and holds his own with the bat. His defense is greatly under appreciated, hits 15-20 hr and is a very good baserunner, good locker room guy. So there is a decent amount of value in all those attributes. I see him back in 2025. I doubt they’ll bring Conforto back though.
Deke
An average WAR (Wins Above Replacement) in baseball is generally considered to be around **2.0** for a full-time player in a season. Here’s a quick breakdown:
– **0-1 WAR**: Below-average or bench-level player.
– **2 WAR**: An average regular starter.
– **3-4 WAR**: Above-average starter.
– **5+ WAR**: All-Star level.
– **6+ WAR**: MVP-level season.
A WAR of around 2.0 means a player contributes two additional wins compared to a replacement-level player, who could easily be called up from the minor leagues.
User 576253516
It would be funnier if Blake Snell was named Blake Snail!
L O L
deweybelongsinthehall
Glad somebody laughed…
MLB Top 100 Commenter
It would be funnier if Blake Snell was named Baked Snail!
There, fixed it for you!
User 576253516
you’re not funny
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Carlos Gonzalez thinks it’s funny.
Maybe because it’s s-Cargo humor.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Willians Astudio is also laughing. It’s a shell thing.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Q. What happens when two snails get in a fight?
A. They slug it out.
User 576253516
Give it a rest old man
Slider_withcheese
@ UWP
Just an FYI, both the Dodgers and Padres have an older average age (both position and pitching) than SF.
halloffamernobodycares
young =/= good
Jury is still out on most of them.
spliffTONE
@Thefrogsaregey: Because no team in their right mind would offer Conforto $18MM/year going in to the ’25 season. Any other goofy questions you’d like to ask?
spliffTONE
@Thefrogsaregey: Thank you for confirming to us all that you are an unserious person who knows nothing about MLB free agency
sfjackcoke
the MUTE function here is so phenomenal BUH-BYE
deweybelongsinthehall
Troll it appears.
mlb fan
“Did you read the article..casuals on this site”…Being arrogant and condescending doesn’t hide that your point is silly. What team wants to pay full, premium price for average quality players(Yaz may be slightly above average) they can acquire elsewhere for much less?
foppert2
Why does baseball breed so many arrogant fwits that think they own this site and that they own baseball opinion and discussion ? That’s the big question. Casuals might simply want to learn more about the game. Casuals might want to hear fellow fans opinions. Casuals might even be brave enough to express one or two of their own and feel they don’t have to be scared of wankers like you.
foppert2
Nope. I’m good white knighting the brainless clowns that are here.
Off you go to your full length mirror, you intellectually superior baseball champion. It won’t take long.
foppert2
I’m not defending a brainless culture. I’m attacking an elitist self absorbed fwit.
Hilarious you are so intellectually superior but missed the very obvious sarcasm.
Ok. I’m the problem.
foppert2
No. You are elitist self absorbed fwit because of the implication that “casuals” shouldn’t be here. “Why are there so many casuals here ???” is a total wanker comment. Indisputable.
This is how my society tends to roll. When someone is being an arrogant fwit, people stand up and tell them they are being an arrogant fwit. The theory being that if we all participate and the arrogant fwit hears it enough, they might be encouraged to consider a change or two and stop being an arrogant fwit. The end result being, we all get to live with less arrogant fwits. It’s a sound theory. I like it a lot. You might have noticed.
foppert2
Sorry. I like my horse.
Not buying it. Wanker comment.
foppert2
I’m not buying your defence of being an elitist arrogant fwit. Is that clear ?
Now go back to your high horse that has you looking down on all us dumb folk that are farking up your MLB trade rumours experience. You see, everybody has their horse. Yours is dumb people. Mine is arrogant fwits that think they are smarter than they really are.
foppert2
Again. I’m not defending morons. I’m attacking your elitist attitude to other people.
You really aren’t that smart champion. You missed some blatantly obvious sarcasm. Now you can’t perceive a very obvious distinction. If you going to rally to the cause of the intellectually superior, at least demonstrate some of it.
its_happening
Floppert- stop posting. You’re showing your incompetence and immaturity. Try muting those you disagree with and return to your echo chamber of fake intellectuals.
its_happening
Travis, he’s special. Let him be.
Pete'sView
Thefrogsaregey — Because—if you read the post above—neither player adds much, except Yaz with his glove. He’d be a fine 4th or 5th OF if he’s not too expensive and SF doesn’t go beyond 2 years, though I think the second year will be a complete bust. Conforto is already a bust.
Jean Matrac
Thefrogsaregey, It’s not that simplistic. It’s not just going to the player and asking him to take less. Every season players get non-tendered because the arb raise pushes that salary above what the team is comfortable with, or even beyond what the team thinks he’s worth. Like the Dodgers did with Bellinger.
Teams have no choice but to non-tender in that case making the player a FA. The whole salary issue is now reset. Free-agency is more of a true guide to what a player is worth than his projected arb raise was.
Yaz will probably be non-tendered, and it’s doubtful he’ll get a raise equal to his projected arb raise. Conforto’s deal is done, and he’s a FA. Again, it’s not only doubtful, but virtually guaranteed, that no team pays him as much, let alone more, than what he was paid this season.
longoverdue1977
Snell and Conforto, you boys need to come back and help your childhood hometown team. M’s need you.
goob
After poor results with a declining Haniger, I doubt they’d want to roll the dice on a declining Conforto.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
After they squeezed juice out of Robles, seems like they can do anything …. Except dispatch the Asterisks.
goob
Hmmm…this reminds me of The Lemon Song.
draker
The Giants need to move on from both Yaz and Conforto as well as Farhan Zahidi. League average doesn’t cut it.
Baseball77
I would agree on Conforto and FZ but not Yaz. Who do you replace him with? Don’t say Juan Soto because a ton of teams will be in the running on him and the Giants aren’t likely to sign him. Who on the free agent market is going to hit better than him and not lose that edge but poor defense?
SkenesandSlopes
Don Soto?
Sign Kim to play 2B and grab an OF bat not named Soto?
Baseball77
Goes back to my original question. Which outfielder on the market would be better than Yaz? Remember right field is a tricky spot to play in Oracle. The fact that Yaz can play well defensively there brings a lot to the team. Lose that and you’ll need to replace him with a hitter that puts up much better numbers.
its_happening
Giants can re-sign Yaz if they can land a game changer on top of Yaz. The question is can they truly overtake 3 teams ahead of them the next year or two? Regardless of the answer, keeping Yaz doesn’t hurt them.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
They may only have to overtake one of three West teams to be a wild card in 2025 or 2026.
its_happening
Healthy Braves should contend for a division and San Fran is nowhere near the caliber of Atlanta or Philly. The soft NL Central should also be better next year, including your Cubs. Frisco is hovering around the middle with limited minor league options, unlike the Cubbies.
Pete'sView
Kim does zero for the offense and the GIANTS need offense.
its_happening
That’s why they’d need an OF bat. Really hard to see this team sustaining a run of being near the top in their division and leaping other WC teams around them. Thanks to this Chapman extension they are not rebuilding or retooling. They need to go all in.
case
Farhan is well below league average, I think his WAR is -20
its_happening
Watch out Case! You’ll have the Giant fans who think he’s Cooperstown-bound all over you.
Pete'sView
I don’t think many of us Giant fans think Farhan is anything but an accountant above his head.
Pickle_Britches
Has any seen how the Giants have vs .500 teams? Lol Giants are competing for last next year
letitbelowenstein
Is Bangor, Maine.
Lets Go DBacks
We have knocked Snell around the first time and knocked him out early the second time. Good times.
azcrook
Snell much more important than Soto
davemlaw
SFG has Meckler and Encarnacion too.
Giants are better off throwing money at Wily Adames or Kim, move Fitzgerald to 2nd or vice versa and move on from Yaz and Conforto.
If Yaz is willing to do 2 years at $14M, OK. He’s been a good Giant but SFG needs to spend more wisely this offseason. They got lucky to unload Soler; DONT make the same mistake twice.
Pete'sView
Yes, but stay away from Kim. He adds nothing to the offense.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Which Kim? Hye Seong Kim from KBO will be available and he has a better bat than Ha Seong Kim. He profiles as a 2B though, not a shortstop.
DanielDannyDano
Yaz re-signing will happen. The excellent defense in the most difficult RF in the Majors separates him from Conforto if the bats are a wash.. The Giants are sure to let Conforto walk and let Heliot Ramos settle into left. Conforto probably will end up signing in Toronto or Cleveland or somewhere else desperate for OF production.
sfjackcoke
Unless the Free Agent market develops REALLY quickly, the deadline to tender a contract to Yaz is likely too soon for the SF front office to make that call.. On a good team Yaz is a quality 4th OF option, in particular if the starting OF bends right handed. I believe SF will look for someone else for the vacant corner position and circle back to Yaz when the roster picture is more in focus.
This is a “for example” what if SF decides to make a run at Willie Adames turning Fitzgerald into super utility guy, think Tony Philips on the A’s. I don’t think it benefits either Matos or McCray to be bench players in 2025 and if SF truly considers themselves a playoff team are not starters, not yet. That said i don’t know what their 40 man looks like and how everyone fits. This is more reason that Yaz likely gets non-tendered.
Skute23
I agree I have always really enjoyed myself in this city.
halloffamernobodycares
because you don’t live here
whyhayzee
Hopefully YAZ finds a home. Will never stop rooting for him.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I hink SF can just tender a contract to Yaz. Better that the salary is slightly higher then to increase the commitment to more than a single year. If Encarnacion or Matos take the next step, then SF has a slightly overpaid 4th outfielder in Yaz for one year. Encarnacion is hitting for a better average against left-handers, but has his power against right-handers.
Humm bumms
Sign Teoscar for 3 years, sign Adames, sign Snell. McCray can be the 4th outfielder. Tibbs isn’t too far off and can be the regular outfielder when Teoscar’s contract expires. Fitzgerald can move to 2nd. Keep Wade at first for the time being until Eldridge is ready. Good team!
John Bird
My guess is Yaz stays and Conforto is gone. Snell is a maybe. Neither Matos or McCray have proven they can perform at a sustainable level and beyond Soto, who’s not going to sign here, the free agent market is weak. Yaz plays gold glove level defense in the toughest right field in baseball and is an asset on the base paths and in the clubhouse. Conforto doesn’t offer much value beyond the occasional hot streak. Snell has been great the second half but was brutal in the first half and the Giants have a lot of young pitching. But they don’t have much money tied up going forward and he seems to like pitching here. That would free up some of the young pitching to trade for a hitter.
foppert2
I worry about Webb. From memory, it was only the start of 2021 that he was just the number 6 guy vying for a rotation spot ? 12 months later Posey retires and he pretty much becomes the Giants guy. I feel for him. Get the man some help before he implodes. Chapman was a good start. I’ve got a senior partner in crime in leading the rotation as a high priority.
cooperhill
And to think, dumpster diving Dan Duquette chose to keep Joey Rickard?!?! over Yaz!
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Saying San Francisco is the best city is like saying Los Angeles doesn’t have traffic…
Jean Matrac
I’d like to see Yaz come back on a 2-year deal negating the arb-raise. But I’m not sure, despite his wish to stay in SF, that the Giants wouldn’t be doing him a favor by non-tendering him. I think he would hit much better in a different park. With his D, speed, and strong accurate arm, any team with WS aspirations would benefit with him as their 4th OFer.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I’d like to see Yaz for just one year and let him have the arb raise. Room for Ramos, Lee, Yaz and Encarnacion.
Hoping Matos will be ready by 2026. And if not, at least Eldridge and Tibbs.
foppert2
Yaz is a yes for me. I hope to be wishing Conforto all the best at his new club. If Webb is that keen for Snell, I’d be happy if they ponied up the cash.
i believe we can lose
I’m sensing some differences of opinions on this article.
goob
I just wanna say This about That.
Nap Lajoie
As a long time G fan, I have to say, turn on the game right now. The Giants are gunning for their third shut out in a row. offense is a must. Hell, bring the kid Eldridge up!
Pickle_Britches
Giants shouldn’t count on their farm system. Let’s see how Fitzgerald and Ramos do next year. If they do better than Yaz or Wade I’ll be impressed.
Pickle_Britches
Joc would of been their best hitter but they let him go lol
Pickle_Britches
Giants have nothing but high K % prospects with sauce upside. Let’s not forget about their SP. Lol Swiney, Bednar, Corry, McDonald, Teng, Whisenhunt = Future bums
Pickle_Britches
Martin has the highest K% I’ve seen and he’s 20. Scouting department needs help
Mauiawake
Since they have no giant player to hit over 30 home runs since bonds in 2004 with 45 home runs, they have won championships with good starting pitching, 4 good relief pitchers and good defense.
Also u need at least one hall of famer type player.
Recommend
Trade Doval, immature and unprofessional
Put Luciano in the outfield or first base or trade him for the above types. Don’t just give him up for free. He doesn’t look like a star player based on his fielding and hitting stats
Be careful though because we now should have kept Joey Bart and we got really nothing for him.
Get at least one player who can hit home runs
Now u know why Buster posey was so good for the giants. But we also had good starting pitching , four good relievers, and good defense(Crawford, belt, posey)
rb305
I love Yaz and hope he stays. I’d rather keep Yaz and try on big name FAs, then let Yaz walk and miss on big name FAs (as we’ll no doubt do). It’s a role of the dice on Matos and McCray being starter ready next year. I actually thought Matos was about to step up the way Ramos did this year and still think he is closer than McCray, despite McCray getting the roster spot in September. Thankfully Ramos is the guy in Confortos spot for years to come and Lee will be an addition once again next Spring.
I would be thrilled if Snell returns, but that seems unlikely. Yankees, Dodgers, Padres step in and overpay is my prediction. Giants finish 2nd.
MLBTR needs to hire editors
Come on, Adams. There should be no comma before “too.” It’s not the sixties anymore.