The Phillies are moving right-hander Taijuan Walker to the bullpen. Manager Rob Thomson informed reporters today, including Matt Gelb of The Athletic, who suggests that Tyler Phillips is likely to take the open rotation slot.
Going into the 2023 season, the Phils signed Walker to a four-year, $72MM deal. His first season in Philadelphia was serviceable enough, as he posted a 4.38 earned run average while taking the ball 31 times. The team didn’t give him a postseason start, however, going with a rotation of Zack Wheeler, Aaron Nola and Ranger Suárez, while Cristopher Sánchez made one start as well.
2024 has been far more trying. Walker began the season on the injured list due to right shoulder inflammation. He was reinstated from the IL in late April but went back on the shelf just under two months later due to right index finger inflammation. That second trip to the shelf lasted from late June to the middle of August.
Around those IL stints, he has made 14 starts with a 6.50 ERA. His 16.8% strikeout rate is a career low, apart from 2018 when he made just three starts for the Diamondbacks prior to undergoing Tommy John surgery. His four-seam fastball is averaging 91.5 miles per hour this year, whereas he has been in the 93-95 range for much of his career. He has allowed six earned runs in each of his past two starts.
In the short term, Walker’s poor performance isn’t going to sink the club. Their 78-55 record is one of the best in the majors. They have a five-game lead over Atlanta in the East and would almost certainly have a Wild Card spot even if that club runs them down.
Each of Wheeler, Nola, Suárez and Sánchez are having good seasons, giving the club a strong front four that should carry them through the end of the season and into the playoffs, as long as everyone is healthy. The extra off-days in the postseason generally allow club to get by with three or four starters, rather than five or six in the regular season.
Rosters expand from 26 to 28 on September 1, with clubs able to go from 13 pitchers to 14 as the maximum allowed. Having Walker as an expensive long reliever in the bullpen shouldn’t be too cumbersome from a roster construction point of view.
The long-term question is a bit more complicated. Walker’s deal pays him even salaries of $18MM in each year of his deal, meaning there will still be two years and $36MM remaining as of this winter. As Gelb highlights, teams rarely give up on players with that much money still to be paid out, usually hoping that some kind of bounceback will come to pass. He does mention a few exceptions, listing Pablo Sandoval as the player released with the most money still owed: $48.3MM. A few other listed examples include Robinson Canó ($37.6MM), José Abreu ($35MM) and Madison Bumgarner ($34MM).
Walker will be in that range but Gelb also adds that the club still feels there’s a path for getting him on track next year, which will be his age-32 campaign. “The program that he was on to try and gain velocity, we didn’t have enough time,” Thomson said. “Like, that program’s a long program, and we sort of cut the program off early. I think if he has a full offseason of that program, we have a better chance of seeing some improvement.”
Gelb adds that the club had Walker on a weighted ball program while he was out with the aforementioned finger injury. As mentioned earlier, his velocity has been down this year. Perhaps he’s never been 100% healthy this year and has a path to get back on track in future seasons.
That could lead the Phillies to being patient to see how things play out next year, but it’s possible the rotation will get more crowded over time. Wheeler, Nola and Sánchez are all signed through at least 2027, while Suárez still has one more arbitration season left, so he should be around through 2025. Prospect Andrew Painter could be more an option by then. He almost cracked the club’s rotation in 2023 but injuries put a stop to that and he eventually underwent Tommy John surgery last summer.
Gelb relays that Painter recently had a setback in his recovery but the club characterizes it as normal soreness for this part of the rehab process. He was also slowed by an illness recently. He will likely have workload restrictions in 2025 since he only threw 103 2/3 innings in 2022, followed by two lost seasons. Nonetheless, he is still ranked as one of the top pitching prospects in the sport and could be pushing for a big league debut next year.
Ideally, Walker will simply return to form and make this a non-issue. After returning from his aforementioned Tommy John surgery, he posted a 3.80 ERA over the 2020-22 seasons, which is what prompted the Phils to bring him aboard. Even if Painter gets in good form next year, there’s no guarantees that the other four will be healthy, so Walker could certainly be needed. Suárez could also depart in free agency prior to 2026, the final year of Walker’s deal. Though if the struggles from Walker continue, the temptation to release him may grow, especially as the money still owed to him shrinks over time.
For now, the club will turn the ball over to Phillips. He has debuted this year and thrown 36 innings with a 5.50 ERA. Gelb also suggests that Kolby Allard could be a candidate to take a spot. However, the lefty was just optioned on August 26 and needs to wait 15 days from that date before being recalled, unless he’s replacing someone going on the injured list. Allard has a 3.50 ERA in his 18 innings this year. He has a 5.92 ERA in his big league career and a 5.45 ERA in Triple-A this year.
Gwynning
I’m making popcorn for these comments, who wants some?
Love the passion, Phils fans! Cheers
Suncloud
Blocked.
Gwynning
Fine? Lol
Suncloud
Blocked means your messages aren’t appearing, so you don’t have to say fine. Don’t even know what you just typed.
Gwynning
Sounds like you do! L8r
Suncloud
That’s enough, Gwynning.
I’m out of here.
Gwynning
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case
Excommunicated.
Bart Harley Jarvis
@Gwynning,
You sir, are on fire!
Gwynning
*hat tip*
Guard the Vogt
You can still like all his comments if he mutes you… Sorta defeats the purpose of muting if you’re announcing it
Gwynning
Kids nowadays!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
hiflew
Why do people think it is something worth caring about for someone to mute or block us? To me, I would prefer it if all annoying commenters would mute me. My comments are kind of insightful sometimes, but they are not profound enough to make any difference with those people. So enjoying the quiet seems to be the best route.
User 4245925809
My good man.. U have a past history as fact checking with GARM, or some other nefarious group? Gotta be something has urself bugged out so bad at seeing baddies under every post.
Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can
You need to touch some grass homie.
hiflew
Thank you.
Bill M
@ Marlins Fan: so… you’re NOT outta here?
Blocked
Guard the Vogt
Ok won’t bother me, just do it nerd
Guard the Vogt
You’re soft.
Black Ace57
@Geynning Marlins Fan here actually illustrates why Walker is so unlikeable for Phillies fans. The Phillies have had plenty of overpaid and disappointing players and pitchers before Walker and I’m sure they will have plenty after. It’s how he’s making so much yet whines and complains and acts like a victim repeatedly on social media that makes him unlikeable. He kind of acts like Marlins Fan here. At this point he’s the new Tonia Harris for Phillies fans in terms of the city’s most overpaid player fans just wished would go away.
Suncloud
They won the World Series just 16 years ago and they still have one of the most iconic stadiums in all of baseball but people completely forget about both of those thing. It’s like they never even happened
User 401527550
It’s not really iconic if people forget how good it is.
case
Booing Santa Claus was pretty iconic
Bart Harley Jarvis
Please tolerate my neurosis, but I always feel the need to tell a more nuanced version of the ‘Franklin Field-Santa Story’.
Franklin Field had several inches of snow in the stands, the scheduled Santa was a no-show, and a skinny guy in a dirty Santa suit was grabbed out of the stands to fill in.
Eagles fans booed (surprise), snowballs were thrown, and a legend is born. A bit of a quirky nothing burger (but great storytelling) considering the murder and mayhem that’s occurred at other sporting events.-
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case
However, Santa discounts the suit criticism, admitting that while the beard was pretty ratty, the suit itself was top quality.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Like I said, a legend is born.
libertybell444
Do you know the whole story behind that? He was a fill in Santa brought in from the street (drunk guy given a few bucks) because the Santa that was hired didn’t show. The guy was told to throw candy into the stands. Half way around the stadium he ran out. He then got belligerent and then came the boos followed by snowballs. So, that took place in the 1960s. I love it when people bring this up but don’t know the real story. Yes, my grandfather and uncle and mom were there with many of their cousins pelting this game Santa who was drunk with snowballs and that’s how the story goes. Thank you to anyone who posted something similar as me bc it is true.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Yes, I thought I just explained the whole situation excluding your grandfather, uncle, and mom.
case
Without much video evidence we are left with the proud oral tradition of storytelling.
The legend grows.
libertybell444
You forgot my cousins but that’s ok. They are my second cousins. I appreciate your accurate and historical account of the event. But seriously, nice job setting the record straight. Now as far as throwing snowballs at coaches, nothing was better than watching Jimmy Johnson get pelted in the hair do.
kje76
It would have been a nothing thing, but Howard Cosell saw the highlights, and whined about it loudly in a wrapup show, apparently. Blame Cosell.
Bart Harley Jarvis
That would be more ironic than iconic.
case
Ironically iconic or Iconically ironic?
Bart Harley Jarvis
Whatever works.
Blackpink in the area
What?
Suncloud
People have completely forgotten about their stadium and their World Series title.
Inside Out
Should bring up Seth Johnson not Tyler P.
htbnm57
When they are 12 runs behind maybe he should pitch again. Waste of a roster spot .
Heels On The Field
Let Garrett Stubbs rest his arm.
Very Barry
You guys looking for a left-handed bat? We got Andrew Benintendi here with the White Sox. We would be very interested in swapping those contracts. We would be willing to throw in one of our “major league ready” arms from down on the farm like Ky Bush. Let’s talk.
highflyballintorightfield
I was watching the LLWS a few days ago and realized this guy’s name should be Chinese Taipay Walker.
Bob Sacamano 310
His contract is one year short of being a good 1-for-1 bad contract swap with Benintendi.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Deal!
Bob Sacamano 310
As a White Sox fan, I agree lol
Heels On The Field
Baez on the Tigers.
Bob Sacamano 310
That’s an even worse deal lol
Blackpink in the area
It’s 14 bad starts I don’t think it warrants a release. I think the contract was an overpay at the time the injury makes it look worse. Perhaps a swap of bad contracts would make sense.
Bart Harley Jarvis
I thought it would be an out of the blue injury, and the rest of the season on the IL. I feel for the guy, but he’s toast. He doesn’t walk back and forth to the mound, he hobbles.
Comet
Bring up Seth Johnson! I want to see that Soto trade look even better
whosehighpitch
Hopefully at extended spring training
longines64
Not sure what Dombrowski saw there. The Phillies as composed killed him. It’s like giving up 9 wins when you count the 3x they beat him plus the 9 he’s lost on his own merit.
Not related but Turnbull is a waste. They maybe got 45 days from him.
kje76
Turnbull was a lottery ticket. They cashed on him for a couple of months, made a bad decision to send him to the pen for Walker, and the magic faded. Anything they got from Turnbull was a plus, so they came out ahead there.
Mikenmn
Walker has had six seasons where’s he’s thrown at least 134 IP,, ust two of which would qualify for ERA crown. He’s never had even a 3 WAR season. I realize the price of pitching is high but even his “contract year” was just 2.7. Rich deal?
Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can
So much hype as a Mariners prospect, I remember when he first came up in 2013, and talking heads were comparing him to King Felix. At the time, I thought “hell yeah, Seattle finally has a dominant 1-2 punch in that rotation!” Just got trapped by too many injuries and inconsistency. When he was on, he was damn near unhittable, but those games got rarer and rarer. He’s had a decent career, made his millions, but it’s far cry from what many thought he was gonna do all those years ago.
The McNasty1
Walker, as an MLB pitcher, is garbage.
Kruk it
Should be cleaning toilets!!!!!
Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can
Who knows, maybe Walker will become a dominant reliever in the playoffs. Some pitchers who are mediocre as starters go on to have elite seasons out of the bullpen. Remember Andrew Miller? He was a starter for a few years early on, and then became one of the best setup men in baseball.
DakotaJoe
There is zero chance of that happening. They have some great relievers and Walker doesn’t have a single swing and miss pitch. .
libertybell444
Walker is done! And the Phillies need to be done with him this season. Total liability at this point in the season unless you make him a 15 runner. Only go in when up or down by 15 runs. If the Phillies in the next few days can sign a guy off waivers maybe that is the answer. But sign Trevor Bauer and see what he can do. Probably no worse than Walker.
DakotaJoe
I think he’s done too but who knows. I’ve seen too many guys who looked washed up make a come back. I think he’ll get a chance because they still have two more years on his contract. Unless they trade him for another bad contract.
cpdpoet
Surprised no one has posted how he sulked after not getting that playoff start and subsequently showed up “clearly out of shape” for Spring Training.
He was signed to be the #4 and eat those innings, which he did. Maybe those 15 w’s went to his head and not his very questionable peripheral stats?
If they move him in the off season, I wonder how much of the $18 they’ll have to eat? $5? $8? There will be takers for him….again.
ayeah
This signing reminds me of the Freddy Garcia trade. A total waste and loss.
Joe S
He should be a solid mop up guy for the next 2.5 years. Perfect guy to throw out there to save the arms of good pitchers.
bumpy93
he should have been moved to the bullpen of Lehigh valley!!
609Collectibles
Bad contract swap this winter. George Springer, Kris Bryant or dare I say.. Mike Trout anyone?
They can’t DFA him with two years and over 36 mil remaining on that deal. But they could flip him for an OF’er potentially.