Aug. 8: Luzardo tells Daniel Alvarez Montes of El Extra Base that he is indeed done for the 2024 season and has already set his sights on rehabbing and preparing for a full season in 2025.
Luzardo acknowledged some frustration and disappointment with how the 2024 season has progressed for him. He’s still riding a bike and performing various exercises to keep in shape, but there’s simply not enough time left on the calendar for him to get back on the mound this year.
Aug. 6: Marlins lefty Jesus Luzardo hasn’t pitched since June 16 due to a stress reaction in his lower back. The team never announced a formal timeline for his return, but Luzardo was moved to the 60-day injured list just a week after his initial IL placement, suggesting he’d be down for at least two months. It now seems his absence will extend even further, as the Marlins revealed yesterday that Luzardo’s no-throw period is expected to last another six weeks (X link via Isaac Azout of Fish On First).
Miami hasn’t said as much officially, but a six-week timeline simply to resume throwing all but eliminates the possibility of Luzardo making it back to the mound before the end of the season. Six weeks from yesterday would put Luzardo on about Sept. 16 before he even picks up a ball. The regular season ends just 13 days later, on Sept. 29.
If the back injury indeed proves season-ending, it’ll close the book on a frustrating year for the talented but inconsistent Luzardo. The 26-year-old southpaw pitched to a flat 5.00 ERA in a dozen starts spanning 66 2/3 innings. He missed time early with elbow tightness that led to concerns of another major arm injury — Luzardo had Tommy John surgery in high school — but he returned strong, posting a 3.98 ERA in 40 2/3 innings between IL stints. Half the damage against him (nine of his 18 earned runs in this stretch) came in one brutal June 4 outing against the Rays. His other six starts ranged from good to excellent.
The injury complicates the outlook of a pitcher who earlier this year looked like a surefire trade candidate. Even if Luzardo had been able to come back healthy for four to five starts late in the season, that might’ve been enough to showcase his health to potential offseason suitors. It’d hardly have been an ideal platform year, but other clubs could’ve felt reasonably confident they’d be getting a healthy version of the pitcher who from 2022-23 pitched 279 innings of 3.48 ERA ball while punching out nearly 29% of his opponents with a walk rate that sat a bit better than average.
Instead, teams eyeing Luzardo will have to factor in not only the early elbow issue but also the back injury that torpedoed his season. That previously referenced 2022-23 production is still alluring, as are the remaining two years of club control over Luzardo, but the health risk will be just as great a focus (if not greater).
Marlins president of baseball ops Peter Bendix and his staff will need to weigh offers this winter against what they think they could theoretically receive in a midseason deal. It’s possible, if not likely, that a healthy version of Luzardo in June/July could command more than the offseason version with significant health concerns — even though in the offseason Miami would be peddling two full seasons of club control as opposed to 1.5 seasons next summer. The Tigers went down a similar path with fellow lefty Matthew Boyd several years ago, fielding offers at multiple deadlines and through multiple offseasons while injuries continued to impact his stock. They ultimately wound up non-tendering Boyd in 2021 and losing the left-hander for nothing.
Holding Luzardo into the 2025 season could carry similar risk, but the front office also surely wants to avoid taking what’s perceived as a light package — only to see Luzardo bounce back with a healthy first half in 2025. It’s a fine line to walk and will be one of the most complex decisions for the Miami baseball operations staff this winter.
GarryHarris
You don’t know what the Tigers were offered or what other teams were willing to offer for Matthew Boyd. For all we know, the Tigers were most likely offered waiver wire trash.
JoeBrady
In a free market, prices usually hover around fair market value. I’d consider it borderline impossible that all 29 other teams simultaneously undervalued Boyd or anyone else.
GarryHarris
So you do or don’t know?
danumd87 2
That’s such a disingenuous question. You know the answer. He gave an extremely reasonable reply aptly predicated on simple logic and a conclusion following from that logical inference. Do we know with certainty? No. Is it reasonable to conclude that the Tigers brutally screwed up? Absolutely. That’s indisputable.
JoeBrady
So you do or don’t know?
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Silly response. Only mathematical equation are truly known.
I’m going to go for a run through the park later. I’m pretty sure I won’t get hit by a meteor but I don’t know for 100% certainty
So do I know for certain that all 29 owners undervalued Boyd? No.
But based on the entire history of baseball, I’d make a very serious wager that Boyd elicited at least a few serious offers.
But here is how I get people to realistic assessments. If there was $1M on the table, and you get either 100% or you get nothing, depending on your guess. Would you guess that the Tigers got some serious offers that they rejected? Or did they get no real offers?
GarryHarris
It’s supposition and not logic.
pohle
sound logic can lead to supposition. for those of us enough good common sense, that is
GarryHarris
Just keep telling yourself that.
MickeyTheMod
Teams will rightfully pivot to Trevor Bauer. We should expect him to get multiple offers and he will sign with the team of his choice. He’s been waiting, and the wait is coming to an end.
This one belongs to the Reds
He will keep waiting despite what him, his agent, and his mama post here.
MickeyTheMod
Muted for claiming to be a Reds fan while disparaging and turning your back on one of Cincinnati’s time greats.
BannedMarlinsFanBase
Cincinnati’s time greats? I thought this was about Trevor Bauer.
NYCityRiddler
I’m changing your name to MickyTheMaroon b4 banishing you to the enchanted kingdom. Ahahaha!
mlb1225
The White Sox might hit 100 losses well before the end of August and will be lucky to win even 40 games this year, and are on the verge of setting the all-time losing streak record. The Athletics have no good will left between them and the fans and won’t even be playing in a Major League stadium next season, and neither even have a chance of landing the first overall pick in the lottery regardless of how good/bad they are. Both are in the bottom 3 in attendance, with the Marins sandwiched in-between them.
Regardless of your opinion on Bauer, we have two teams with literally zero to lose in terms of standings, draft odds, and fanbase trust/happiness, possibly even clubhouse chemistry or trust between players and the front office (see Esteury Ruiz and Brent Rooker wearing “Last Dive Bar” merch), and neither have brought Bauer in. At what point it is what it is and we accept it’s very likely never going to happen?
MickeyTheMod
Currently on probation with a stern warning of mute for writing too much. Please be advised.
mlb1225
Well, I’m sorry you don’t want to hear the truth. If there are two teams with quite literally zero to lose this year haven’t signed Bauer yet, chances are no team will.
This one belongs to the Reds
Some folks can’t handle the truth. Applies to many facets of life.
JoeBrady
But it does bring up the point of having two teams with nothing to lose and everything to gain, and they haven’t signed him.
So why wouldn’t they?
mlb1225
Do they really have anything to gain? If the White Sox sign Bauer, then maybe they avoid 120 losses. If the A’s sign him, then maybe they finish 10 games out of the division instead of 12+. Is that really worth any of the potential issues Bauer could bring?
Rally Goose
There are no issues Bauer brings
BannedMarlinsFanBase
WalMart is happy they have studs like Bauer, Avi Garcia, Yasiel Puig and other guys that no longer have a place in MLB.
At least Trevor can get one of those yellow smiley face trophies when WalMart beats KFC in the Minimum Wage League World Series this year.
YankeesBleacherCreature
You should make that into bumper sticker and Xmas stockings stuffer.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Here come the shut down for the season articles
Still waiting for crochet and Robert to go down…
Citizen1
Marlins saying he will return around lent in spring training
Citizen1
The prophecy has come true
JoeBrady
This is why teams shouldn’t hesitate too long in tanking, especially with pitchers.
BannedMarlinsFanBase
I think in this case, they’ll be ok. This year is a crazy situation where they’re dealing with injuries to their SPs, and at the same time trying to keep an extra year of control on other SPs in the organization.
I’m trying to remember when I’ve seen a team do that. Usually teams tank because they have absolutely nothing in place – not because they’re caught in between injuries on one side and holding MLB-ready guys back to get that extra year of control.
And they’ll get a high pick next year. And their trades were layered in age targets.
I tell you, if Bendix fails at this, we all have to give him credit for trying something unorthodox. If he succeeds, I could see more teams tanking like this until someone steps in to stop it.
And I personally feel that this is a strategic symptom of that extra playoff spot. That 6th spot changed organizational strategy a great deal – even in how teams tank now. You have the way the Marlins are doing it as mentioned above. And you have the 10000000% ‘scorched earth’ and ‘salted fields’ approach that the White Sox are doing, where you make sure you’re team is historically bad to assure that you can’t bounce back the next season to play well enough to sneak into striking distance of that 6th spot.
stretch123
Marlins rotation could be very good if all these guys come back healthy next year… Alcantara, Perez, Luzardo, Meyer, Garrett, Weathers… with Cabrera on the outside looking in.
Then another wave like Noble Meyer, Snelling, White, Mazur & Milbrant, Fulton…
Happy with the job Bendix is doing so far but, still need another 2-3 impact bats in the system. Will have to trade Alcantara and Luzardo once they are healthy & effective but would not surprised to see the Fish as a wild card team as early as 2026.
BannedMarlinsFanBase
We might not have to wait until 2026 to be in striking distance. If all of our guys are healthy and performing, do you think they would not be within striking distance of that 6th spot at the deadline? I think Bendix has even considered that with the way, he’s already started Spring Training with claiming every guy that is 28 and younger off the waiver, in the hunt for the diamonds in the rough to go with the MLB-ready guys he got in the trades and already had in the organation…and the pitchers who will be back next year.
solaris602
Any idea who Bendix might have on tap to replace Schumacher? I saw an article today where the author considered him the favorite to ultimately replace Grifol.
formerlyz
Hopefully Gabe Kapler, who should have been hired instead of Mike Redmond like 11 years ago
stretch123
I like Kapler. I do think he gets it if he wants it.
BannedMarlinsFanBase
I’m pretty sure it’ll be Kapler. It’s an easy transition to a guy already in the organzation, who has managerial experience.
formerlyz
If they hired him back then, not only could we be talking about a totally different organization, this is going to sound messed up, but there’s an outside chance Jose is still around…not that it would have been here, but the losses Redmond and Mattingly cost us by their inability to understand modern baseball/situations/decision making wasted rosters that could have made the old format of the playoffs, which actually meant something…
rockofloveusa
i feel it be someone young in the 40’s age rang like Rodney Linares Current Position: Tampa Bay Rays Bench Coach.
unless the marlins spend a littlle
reports Gabe Kapler wants more of a front office role. his record on teams that spent money not all that good . i choice Mel Stottlemyre Jr. over Gabe Kapler for a team like marlins. plus Mel Stottlemyre Jr. look more mad about the lose ump blown in reds and marlins game. then skip did. jump out of the dugout ( in extra inngs looks at skip like are you going take pitcher out) before vesting pitcher.
just think Bendix had a role with Kevin Cash. being on rays also
Squeeze32
Still waiting for the guy who is definitely not Roger Beshens to come in here talking about Roger Beshens football slider and it being the reason every pitcher has gotten hurt in the past 2 years.
formerlyz
Again, all these dudes should have been moved back in November at the latest, but having listened to Bendix a couple of times, I get the sense he knew that, but couldn’t just come in and get rid of everyone at that point, without really “angering” the “fanbase, ” especially with so many people, that don’t pay attention anyway, driving narratives in the city
That being said, they still should have done it at the time. Now, you need to hold off until early May, hoping the arms start the season healthy and strong, then trade them
BannedMarlinsFanBase
Here’s an interesting question.
With us knowing what these pitchers can do when healthy, what do you do if their health and performance has them within striking distance of the 6th playoff spot (or even in it) at the trade deadline?
Do we still trade them or no?
I say trade a couple of them, but for MLB guys that fill voids – such as pitcher-for-hitter deals…guys that are the same age range or younger, with similar or more years of control.
Obviously if they’re way out of it by the deadline, we trade like we did this year.
formerlyz
I’m trading them in early-mid may regardless, if they’re healthy and going strong
Nobody should care about possibly winning fhe 17th wildcard to lose in the new 1st round. We’re trying to win a world series and win multiple world series, and be in contention for multiple world series, and compete consistently for many years, and build a destination, and more of a real generational fanbase…
Nothing short of that matters
BannedMarlinsFanBase
Also, I feel you’re right about Bendix knowing the fan base would be angry. Can’t blame him or the fan base because we did make the playoffs. It’s hard to blow up a team into a rebuild after making the postseason, especially after a long rebuild and the mess Loria and his team created prior to selling. And our fan base has never forgiven and should never forgive the 1997-98 fire sale…no matter who ownership is.
One of the big things that I’m happy about with Bendix this year is that, when we fell out of the race, he did this year what Ng failed to do in 2022. Blow it up! And especially blow up that garbage bullpen!
Blackpink in the area
They trade a TON of guys at the deadline. Stop with the captain hindsight nonsense.
chemfinancing
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chemfinancing
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Niekro floater
Man it seems like Ps in Marlins organization have more attrition through injuries than most. Might be something askew w/their throwing program. Ray’s too, can develop some young pitching but man they break down alot.
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