Roki Sasaki would be one of the most talented players in the upcoming free agent class if he were available. The 6’2″ right-hander has been a star in Japan for the past four seasons. He is widely regarded as one of the best, if not the best, pitchers currently in NPB. Sasaki won’t turn 23 until November and would be a top target for any number of major league clubs.
His availability is by no means guaranteed. While MLB teams have kept a close eye on Sasaki’s status for years, he doesn’t have the ability to force his way to the majors anytime soon. As with all NPB players, he’d need nine years of service time in Japan before he qualifies for international free agency. The only way for Sasaki to make the jump to the majors earlier than that is with the cooperation of the Chiba Lotte Marines, his NPB club.
The Marines could agree to make Sasaki available to MLB teams via the posting system. The star pitcher asked them to do just that last offseason; the team declined the request, leaving Sasaki without much of a choice but to return for his fourth full season there. It seems the way that process unfolded left the pitcher displeased.
Jeff Passan of ESPN writes that Sasaki’s relationship with the Marines is damaged by the team’s denial of his posting request. According to Passan, Sasaki is likely to renew his request for the Marines to post him during the upcoming offseason. Yet it’s entirely possible — perhaps likely — that the team will decline to make him available yet again.
There isn’t much of an incentive for the Marines to let Sasaki walk this winter. Their only potential benefit would be a reputational boost of accommodating the wish of their star player to test himself against MLB hitters. The details of the posting system and MLB’s international bonus pool rules make it far more advantageous for the Marines to hold Sasaki past his 25th birthday.
International players who are under the age of 25 are considered amateurs and are subject to bonus pool restrictions. They are technically only allowed to sign minor league contracts (although an MLB team would surely select Sasaki onto the major league roster by the start of the season).
The far bigger drawback is that teams have a hard cap on spending on international amateurs. While the precise amount varies by team, Baseball America’s Ben Badler reported in April that next year’s bonus pool allotments top out at roughly $7.56MM. Teams can tack on another few million dollars via trade, but it’s a marginal difference. Even if a team maxed out its bonus pool and offered the highest amount to Sasaki (punting the chance to sign any other amateurs of significance for the year), his signing bonus would land somewhere in the $11MM range.
That’s obviously nowhere near the open market value for arguably the best pitcher in Japan. The cases of Shohei Ohtani and Yoshinobu Yamamoto are illustrative. Ohtani made the jump to MLB at age 23 and was subject to the bonus pool limitations. He signed with the Angels in 2017 for $2.3MM. Yamamoto, who waited until he was 25 to come over, signed a $325MM contract last offseason that represented the largest deal ever for a free agent pitcher. The bonus pool restrictions very likely made a difference of hundreds of millions of dollars.
Sasaki seems willing to live with those constraints to get to the majors as quickly as possible. That doesn’t mean the Marines are willing to do the same. The posting agreement between MLB and Nippon Professional Baseball ties the NPB team’s compensation to the value of the free agent contract. An MLB team signing a posted player pays a fee to the Japanese team on top of what goes to the player. The fee is a fixed amount calculated as 20% of a deal’s first $25MM, 17.5% of the next $25MM, and 15% of further spending.
Yamamoto’s $325MM deal came with a windfall for his former team, the Orix Buffaloes. The Dodgers paid the Buffaloes $50.625MM to release him from his contract. If the Marines were to let Sasaki walk this winter, they’d get a small fraction of that amount because of the bonus restrictions. A $10MM bonus for Sasaki would come with a $2MM posting fee for the Marines. That’s meager compensation for parting ways with their 23-year-old ace.
That could all point to the Marines holding Sasaki for two more years. If the team waits to make him available until the 2026-27 offseason, there’d be no limit on his signing bonus — and therefore no indirect cap on the posting fee that the team could receive. That’d presumably only further irritate Sasaki, but it doesn’t seem the pitcher has any leverage to force the team’s hand.
Ohtani making the jump to the majors in 2017-18 shows that it isn’t impossible for a top Japanese free agent to leave early in his posting window. Yet there are a few distinctions between Ohtani’s case and the situation in which Sasaki finds himself.
Jorge Castillo and Jack Harris wrote in the Los Angeles Times last winter that Ohtani had a stipulation in his contract with his NPB team, the Nippon-Ham Fighters, that allowed him to enter the posting system at any time. While Castillo and Harris wrote at the time that “Sasaki is thought to also have that clause in his deal” with the Marines, that doesn’t appear to be the case. Passan stated this morning that “Lotte controls the entire process and can keep Sasaki through the 2026 season if it so desires.” That the Marines were able to prevent Sasaki from being posted last winter — ostensibly against his wishes and in a manner that strained his relationship with the team — points to the club indeed having the final say.
The posting system was also different at the time in which Ohtani came over. While the posting fee is now strictly tied to the signing bonus amount, that was not the case in 2017. The previous posting system allowed an NPB team to name a price up to $20MM, independent of the bonus amount, which they’d require to grant the player permission to move to MLB. The Fighters established the maximum $20MM price, which the Angels happily paid to get Ohtani for a modest bonus. The Marines don’t have that option, so the Fighters collected a posting fee that is 10 times (or more) what Chiba Lotte would receive for Sasaki next winter.
That presents a significant impediment to Sasaki joining a major league team before 2027. USA Today’s Bob Nightengale wrote a couple weeks ago that some MLB executives felt the pitcher might prefer to stay in Japan for another season, though it seems the Marines are the far bigger obstacle.
Lotte does not appear to be under any contractual pressure to let him leave within the next two years. Sasaki is nowhere close to the nine-year threshold for international free agency, nor the eight-year threshold that would permit him to sign with another NPB club. The NPB Players Association has begun an effort to reduce the free agency cutoffs, but that’s an ambitious collective bargaining effort that isn’t likely to be achieved in the next few months.
Sasaki has a 2.01 earned run average in 380 2/3 career innings at Japan’s top level. This hasn’t been his best season, as he carries a personal-worst 2.45 ERA through 77 frames and missed some time with arm discomfort. He nevertheless remains an incredible talent. He has struck out nearly a third of opponents in his career and has fanned 28.7% of batters faced this season. Scouts credit him with a triple-digit fastball and a potential 70-grade (plus-plus) splitter.
He’s perhaps most famous for his stretch of dominance in April 2022, when he followed up a 19-strikeout perfect game with another eight perfect innings before finally giving up a single to start the ninth. He struck out 11 over 7 2/3 innings of four-run ball for Japan’s championship team in the 2023 World Baseball Classic.
This one belongs to the Reds
Another guy for the large markets. This posting system is a bad joke for the majority of MLB.
Inside Out
What are you whining about? Pathetic. Every team could afford him if he is posted in next two years since limited and worst teams have more money. If he waits two years the only constraint is the cheap ass billionaires you apparently actually believe are barely making it. Just so sad how easily people are fooled by rich white guys.
TurnOffTheTV
“White guys”
Piss off.
Thefrogsaregey
Lol. The Communist guy is back
myaccount2
@Thefrogsaregey- We as a society really need to start using the terms “Communist” and “Socialist” correctly.
JoeBrady
ffbbb5 hours ago
Just so sad how easily people are fooled by rich white guys.
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Oh, these people have so much money, and they won’t share it with poor fffbbb. So sad!
Blackpink in the area
This would be more interesting if he wasn’t going to sign with the Dodgers.
tedtheodorelogan
Beat me to it.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
If he gets posted early he is absolutely going to be a dodger
But….. if he can demand a $300 million contract the Mets might want to call
Digdugler
Congrats Dodgers! Hopefully a different team bids the price up a bit and not the Jays. Atkins cant multi-task.
dclivejazz
The Blue Jays, Rangers and Angels also are willing to spend this kind of money.
dclivejazz
I meant to post this under GangGreen23 below.
Wadz
When a country is basically a farm for 2-3 teams.. Barely anyone cares
GangGreen23
Future Yankee, Mets, Dodger, Phillies, Cub or Red Sox player.
As if the other teams have a chance at Signing him.
Flawed posting system.
rrrrr
You think Fischer will open his check book to sign this guy?
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
I’m sure sasaki wants to be a future Sacramento athletic! Wait, or Las Vegas… whatever
User 4245925809
—Flawed posting system—
Can bet your bottom dollar 25% of the teams which barely spend on payroll were heavilly involved in the language equating NPB bonuses for mostly established stars with flat out amateurs from other parts of the world, which doesn’t even have to be named.
Keithyim
What’s your proposal to make the system better? Bonus points for not financially punishing the player getting posted.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
How about the Japanese players can leave the NPB whenever they want and sign for the biggest contract that’s offered to them
As compensation to the NPB maybe increase the money bonus to the former team from the contract
Unless someone tells me a big problem that I overlooked I don’t see what’s wrong with giving Japanese players more freedom
YankeesBleacherCreature
I gave a non-Americentric response below. It’s not always about the money.
JoeBrady
sad tormented neglected mariners fan4 hours ago
How about the Japanese players can leave the NPB whenever they want …Unless someone tells me a big problem that I overlooked
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I think what you are overlooking is that the owners probably want to keep their best players.
myaccount2
@sad tormented- “How about the Japanese players can leave the NPB whenever they want and sign for the biggest contract that’s offered to them”
Why would the NPB owners agree to that? That essentially means there is no binding contract.
Stlhomers
Cardinals have been in rumors
BMDOC
I would add San Fran to the list
MR. Q
Whenever he make the move to sign with any MLB team, he need to make sure that his translator doesn’t gamble behind his back.
tigerdoc616
Interesting, but not relevant to 27 of the 30 teams in MLB and their fans.
Atlanta Jack
Hopefully the chairman will sign Sosakii. He will be the first of many free agents signed baby the White Sox this year. We will call this the NEW White Sox way!!t
vtadave
They can have him. Dodgers will take Sasaki.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Sasaki willing to go to the white Sox is unlikelier than a 2nd trump assasination
Reinsdorf forking out a massive contract is as unlikely as my chances of making it on an mlb team
Samuel
This article had 18 paragraphs.
It would have been too much information if it had 9.
Lot’s of that going on here the past few months. Gotten out of hand.
whyhayzee
If they showed 36 bar charts then there’d be 18 pair of graphs. You’re welcome.
Mech986TRtt
Work on increasing your attention span. When it comes to trade and signing rumors, it’s helpful to get details on how the process works. Should be easy for you to skip over if you’re not interested.
ateam043
What stops him from going the Nomo route about retiring and then un-retiring to sign for an MLB team?
whyhayzee
You can’t do that Nomo?
YankeesBleacherCreature
MLB has a half-century long working relationship with NPB. Are they really going to attempt to sabatoge that relationship by accepting a single player who may be trying to skirt rules long-honored by both sides?
User 3222006999
Nope.
VermonsterSD
Padres……
RoastGobot
Can’t wait for the giants to almost nab this guy!
This one belongs to the Reds
They’ll sign Rosy Sasaki according to Jon Heyman.
Non Roster Invitee
So he thought he had the same clause as Ohtani so he could post whenever he wanted. Who’s fault is that? Him or his agent?
No posting until 2027 IMO. Too much $ on the table.
Moneyballer
There would be no “reputational boost” when they denied his first request. I don’t think there is any motivation at all to post their star player. I can’t see it happening. 9 seasons to hold a player seems way too long – (especially for a pitcher)….this could very well cover his most productive prime years.
Os1995
They usually leave after 6 years of service time since after 6 years they are eligible for a free agent salary from MLB instead of a pre-arb minimum salary that they would get by coming over early. The teams usually agree to post them at that point because the MLB that signs him will pay the japanese team about 20% of what the player signed for.
LordD99
There’s simply no reason for the Marines to allow him to posted for another two years.
Wire to wire 2024
I mean it would go a long way with future players signing with them imo
YankeesBleacherCreature
NPB needs to protect their own money-making national product. If they grant every player’s request to leave, then NPB simply becomes a glorified overseas minor league training site for MLB. One can argue that it already is but not every Japanese player wants to leave NPB.
Oldguy58
In 2017 Shohei signed with the Angels for $2.3 million but with some “shrewd investments” his “interpreter” was able to get that number to $2.1 million
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
I wish Manfred had the balls to reject anything the Dodgers throw at him. There’s only a handful of teams I could see Roki going to. Yankees, Mariners,Dodgers, Cubs and Maybe the Mets.
JoeBrady
I wish Manfred had the balls to reject anything the Dodgers throw at him.
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This is why contracts exist.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
I know but he can reject any trade at the deadline. So if the Dodgers want to pay him 350mil. Manfred should have the right to veto that deal. They’d be way over the tax threshold. It’s shocking they’re not way over it now.
avenger65
If Manfred any balls he would give Reinsdorf an ultimatum: Either field a competitive team or give up control of it. But the owners pay Manfred and his salary is much more important than protecting the integrity of the game.
Acoss1331
There’s only like 4 or 5 teams that will be able to afford him so, it’s not going to be a big surprise when he either signs with the Dodgers or the Mets.
Troy Percival's iPad
What is stopping him from obtaining U.S. Citizenship and just leaving Japan? The 30 owners colluding to not sign him?
KamKid
A player can just use citizenship to void their contractual obligations? The Jays are screwed.
Wire to wire 2024
I wish as a reds fan I could get excited about things like this
Thefrogsaregey
Lol at the dumb communists on this board. Over 10 teams could sign this Guy.maybe 15
Brew’88
mutin putin?
Thefrogsaregey
Didn’t you cry for the tenth anniversary of Michael Brown and the police brutality? Haha.
User 3222006999
I also thought I read where Sasaki had that ” Ohtani Clause” written into his contract as well.. Well there’s no way that Japanese team is letting him go for International money anyway. Too bad the Kid is stuck there for awhile. If the kid gets hurt that Japanese team is going to look extremely stupid and potentially lose 50 million Dollars for not granting Sasaki’s wishes. Wel, he’s not coming here anytime soon I guess. Time to move on.
Russell Branyan
The Marines can’t get 50 million this off-season, that’s why they arent posting him. Until Sasaki turns 25, he’d have to go through the IFA portal, where he’d get around 10 million tops. The Marines would get a couple million maybe.
That’s why I don’t see any way they post him before he is 25, and not subject to IFA bonus restrictions.
ArianaGrandSlam
If it’s not happening any time soon and if the relationship is already falling apart between him and the team he might as well have a precautionary TJ surgery to be fully ready for MLB debut in two to three years.
Bob1084
Correction.
After Sasaki pitched a perfect game in April 2022, he followed up with 8 perfect innings in his next game. However, Lotte’s manager, Tadahito Iguchi (who played for the 2005 WS-winning White Sox), chose to replace him in the 9th inning due to Sasaki’s pitch count. This decision caused a huge controversy, but that was what happened. In any case, Sasaki left the game with his perfect innings intact. He allowed a hit in the first inning of his next start, and his consecutive perfect inning streak ended at 17.