The Dodgers and Tigers are in agreement on a trade sending right-hander Jack Flaherty to Los Angeles, reports Evan Petzold of the Detroit Free Press. The Tigers will receive catcher/first baseman Thayron Liranzo and shortstop Trey Sweeney, according to Robert Murray of FanSided. The Dodgers have now officially announced the trade.
After much speculation, the Dodgers add the best pitcher to be traded at the 2024 deadline. Flaherty, 29 in October, sports a 2.95 ERA in 18 starts this year. Among pitchers with at least 100 innings, his 32 K% ranks fifth in all of baseball. He’s also trimmed his walk rate to a career-best 4.6%.
A first-round pick by the Cardinals out of high school a decade ago, Flaherty earned a fifth-place Rookie of the Year finish in 2018. He followed that up by finishing fourth in the NL Cy Young voting in 2019, capped by a run of 16 starts in which he had a 0.93 ERA.
After stumbling in the shortened COVID season, Flaherty was limited to 78 1/3 innings in 2021 due to oblique and shoulder strains. The shoulder issues persisted into 2022, a season in which Flaherty pitched just 36 innings.
Flaherty avoided the IL last year, but was ineffective for the Cardinals and was shipped to the Orioles in a deadline trade. His struggles in Baltimore were enough that the club moved him to the bullpen before the end of the season.
Seeking to rebuild his value and re-enter free agency, Flaherty inked a one-year, $14MM deal with the Tigers last December. He missed a few starts due to back pain, but otherwise Flaherty has been an ace for the Tigers. At seven games out in the wild card, Tigers president of baseball operations Scott Harris opted for a pair of prospects from the Dodgers rather than a qualifying offer and draft pick compensation.
With Yoshinobu Yamamoto on the IL for a triceps injury, the Dodgers sought a front of the rotation arm to pair with Tyler Glasnow. They may have it in Flaherty, and the club also saw Clayton Kershaw make his season debut last week. Righty Gavin Stone, who opened the season as the Dodgers’ fifth starter, has been a mainstay all year. Yamamoto may yet return, while Walker Buehler is currently on a rehab assignment for hip inflammation. Dustin May, Tony Gonsolin, and Emmet Sheehan are all out for the season, pushing rookies Justin Wrobleski and River Ryan into the Dodgers’ rotation. Dodgers president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman shipped veteran starter James Paxton to the Red Sox last week.
The Dodgers, who also added Kevin Kiermaier, Amed Rosario, Tommy Edman, and Michael Kopech in recent trades, sought an impact arm this month and were also linked to Garrett Crochet of the White Sox. Crochet, who was not ultimately traded, would’ve fit better with the Dodgers’ hefty payroll, but his October availability was in question. Flaherty has about $4.67MM left on his contract this year, on which the Dodgers will pay a 110% tax.
The Dodgers had three prospects on Baseball America’s recent top 100 list, and none of them were required to rent Flaherty from the Tigers for the remainder of the season.
Liranzo, 21, has split his time between catcher and first base for the High-A Great Lakes Loons this year. He’s got a 106 wRC+ in 314 plate appearances this year after raking in A-ball last year. Liranzo represented the Dodgers at the Futures Game earlier this month. MLB.com assigned Liranzo a 50 grade, calling him “one of the best young catching prospects in baseball.” Prior to the season, Baseball America also assigned a 50 grade to the switch-hitting Liranzo, saying he “projects to be an average defender overall” with above-average power and a below-average hit tool.
Sweeney, 24, was drafted 20th overall by the Yankees back in 2021 and was sent to the Dodgers last December in a deal for reliever Victor Gonzalez. As Oklahoma City’s shortstop, Sweeney has an 87 wRC+ in the hitter-friendly Pacific Coast League this year. MLB.com gave him a 45 grade, noting that he has “stayed at shortstop longer than most scouts expected.” BA also put a 45 on Sweeney prior to the season, saying he “has the ceiling of a second-division shortstop.”
Projecting prospects is tricky business, which is why I defer to the experts. But compared to the returns for Trevor Rogers and Yusei Kikuchi, the Tigers’ side of this trade feels underwhelming. At any rate, the first-place Dodgers have significantly bolstered their rotation as they look to return to the World Series for the first time in four years.
The Tigers’ rotation now features little beyond Cy Young frontrunner Tarik Skubal, with Reese Olson on the IL with a shoulder injury. The Tigers seemingly never got close to trading Skubal, though they did move veterans Mark Canha, Andrew Chafin, and Carson Kelly along with Flaherty in the last two days.
TAKERDBACKS
wouldn’t be a deadline without them buying
BlueSkies_LA
A lot of teams on the periphery of competition were also buyers, so I guess it wouldn’t be a deadline without them too.
Mojo37
Royals bought, Padres bought, Snakes bought, Orioles bought, Yanks bought, Mets bought, Cubs bought, Mariners bought, ASStros bought. Giants bought the farm.
Brew’88
Bought isn’t the word. At TDL teams traded. FA’s are bought.
Mojo37
the currency is players but it’s still buying and selling. But if you want to discuss it further with your English teacher get back to us.
BlueSkies_LA
Good point, Brew. You don’t get very much at the deadline with bucks, you get it by trading from the farm. You have to give up prospect capital.
rondon
Doesn’t look like they gave up much except ‘potential’ to get Flaherty.
Rally Goose
@rondon Well they’re not gonna give up anyone “proven.” They’re trying to win a championship this year.
Brew’88
@Mojo, I’ll have to find out where my beloved HS English teacher is buried before I have that conversation wit her. Will be sure to get back to you though if find a map and then get a response. But until then I was just trying to distinguish that typically when teams are accused of “buying championships” etc,, it’s usually not via the trade route.
MattStairs
Pretty sure bought is the term the journalists covering baseball have been using far before most of us were even alive.
Buyers and sellers have a very different connotation vs “traders.” We all understand that pure cash isn’t making these deals happen, but often teams are making things happen with their cash who would be considered “buyers”, aka receiving better trades due to taking contracts that aren’t the most desirable in a vaccum.
Mojo37
I get it. But lots of people use the buy/sell vernacular for the hoopla that just ended.
Brew’88
Maybe the same word “buy” can be applied at TDL as FA purchases off season, but it can be used as a double-edged sword. When ridiculed (see original TAKERDBACKS post above and below) for “buying” a winning team (as opposed to earning a winner through multiple building strategies) I like to distinguish between trade buyers and FA buying. Didn’t mean to upset anyone, I won’t do it again.
Mojo37
Brew: I wasn’t upset. Still not. All good. LAD just used two farm hands to land a good rental hurler who should help them in October. Whether one sees the prospects land in the majors (eg .Andy Pages) or uses the prospects to bring in other major talent, or spend on free agents, its all to the same goal. Winning ball games. Some people seem to think there’s a right and a wrong way to do that.
Brew’88
@Mojo. All cool. Wasn’t really thinking I upset you in particular. No doubt you’ve developed a thick skin as a fan of the Dodgers and all envy/hate that comes at you. I appreciate that you handle it with class. I’ve tried to be civic with my Dodger friends and family despite my life-long painful relationship with your team.
Good luck in the stretch run. No more injuries would be nice. The Phils didn’t land Skubal and LA didn’t get Crochet so it gives everyone else at least a fighting chance. Look out for Cease tomorrow night, he’s on a historic roll.
Mojo37
Best of luck Brew
ManfredIsAJoke
Lol you joke “fans” who defend the team buying everyone in sight to chase their first real title since 1988. You have endless prospects and you’ll have your two Japanese ringers next year but sure buy another star and give up nothing. Spending $1B wasn’t enough? Oh no we only have 9 capable starters right now what will we do without a 10th?!?!?
Zzyzyxca
The Dodgers have only the 5th highest payroll, and only the 13th highest payroll among active players, but keep on talking about the billion-dollar thing. Newsflash: every franchise will be spending in the billions over the next ten years, not just the Dodgers.
TAKERDBACKS
Right but not all of us spent a billion already. Since they still arent that good they need more
Mojo37
If you had it you’d spend it. But you don’t do you?
ManfredIsAJoke
I’m sure you do personally. The league is broken anyway.
Mojo37
aww, so sad. May I introduce you to Mickey Solis?
ManfredIsAJoke
I’m sure we’re the only two people who feel this way. I forgot everyone else loves the Dodgers and what they stand for.
TAKERDBACKS
do I have a billon dollars to spend no MOJO I dont
Mojo37
and for sure there are more than two of you who make your days by pissing and moaning. It’s an endearing quality. misery does seem to love company.
Mojo37
what did I say above? We Agree on this. You don’t.
TAKERDBACKS
Lol is that why you joined in?
Brew’88
Liranzo and Sweeney is a steep price to pay for a 2 month rental. But that’s the trend at this TDL. Pitching is unbelievably pricey. A good year to be sellers for sure.
cmet02
Those aren’t even top 15 prospects. Sweeney we acquired for caleb ferguson. Liranzo might pan out. But it’s absolutely worth trading for a guy who’s putting up prime buehler numbers for a postseason run.
Cap & Crunch
Cmet- Mlb.com has Lizanzo #9 and Sweeney #22 currently
Seems a tad low as a haul but glad Det is trying to get some future hitters in
With C/1B locked up this was a trade the Dodgers had to make. Good job on them waiting till the final 30 mins to possibly get a better deal. Bit surprised this offer wasn’t topped in the AM today by another team
rondon
It’s important to not overate prospects. Flaherty gives them something real in exchange for maybes.
stymeedone
@C&C
Harris was being lambasted on Detroit Sports Radio right up until the trade finally happened. After he screwed up the E-Rod trade, and then didn’t have a backup plan last deadline, doing nothing was not an option. Fans wanted him fired if Flaherty was not traded and not extended. It was like watching musical chairs, as one by one, teams acquired a different starting arm. It really looked like Harris would be without a chair once again. Luckily, neither Crochet or Taillon were moved. Harris was able to take whatever last minute offer he could get. He had no where else to go.
frankiegxiii
Really? I thought that was a pretty light package for one of, if not the top, pitchers dealt this deadline.
tedtheodorelogan
Doesn’t matter to the Dodgers. They can pick close to last in the draft every year and still have a better farm system than 90% of the other teams somehow.
Brew’88
My comment was more about the trend we’re seeing with cost for TDL pitching across the board. I didn’t mean to insult Dodgers fans, and I’m truly sorry if I did. Congrats on getting Flaherty.
But a decade ago it seems like it wouldn’t have cost as much as today for a TDL rental mid- to upper-tier SP. I wonder if this notion bears out in the trend data though, maybe it’s just me.
SportsBum
What good is their farm system when they choke in the playoffs & still have to try to buy their way to a World Series with all the spending they do?
cobby100
Bitter about a team trying to get better? Go get some counseling.
fox471 Dave
Not totally sure but I think this is why they call this part of the baseball season the Trade deadline.
User 4204968895
Yankees lose again.
Joe says...
Yup
User 4204968895
This is the kind of deadline thing Cashman used to get done every year…
Suitcase Simpson
trey sweeney was put to good use
tuck 2
They have nothing to offer anyone.
Yankee Clipper
This is a colossal failure for Brian Cashman. It is his post-George tenure in a nutshell.
Always too late with too little while trying to walk the line between just enough.
solaris602
Do the Yankees not have a thriving minor league system to draw from? Aside from the few who they shuttle from AAA to the majors, I’m not aware of any highly coveted prospects coming up at any level.
Yankee Clipper
Not really. They have a few prospects that look really good, but I’d cap it at 3 or 4.
Spenser Jones is the most notable with Dominguez returning to the Big Leagues.
Ben Rice has shown promising offense, but is still adjusting.
They also have a couple pitchers that broke out. But, their other “good” prospects are still in their early development (Arias and Mayea).
SteveFinleyEnthusiast
My boss is a diehard Yankees fan. We often chat ball during our meetings. Curious/scared to see how he feels tomorrow. Hopefully Jazz works out for you guys, he’s fun to watch when he’s on.
SteveFinleyEnthusiast
Pain.
Saint Nick
Best front office in the biz.
Friarguy19
Much as I hate the Dodgers, I can’t argue with that. They do know the business. Not sure about Kiermaier, but even HE will probably hit .300 for them!
Saint Nick
Same! Hate them and Philly but damn they have good GMs. Your team had a great deadline too. That bullpen is elite!
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Kiermaier could be their next chase utley or David freese
User 401527550
Why would he hit .300 for them? Most of there players are drastically underperforming.
Mojo37
Friars did pretty well too.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
But now the padres only prospects are Salas and de vries
920falcon
Preller will find a way to re-stock the Madres farm. He always does.
SteveFinleyEnthusiast
Bullpen is much improved. Didn’t think Flaherty was realistic after they unloaded everyone besides Salas and De Vries.. Dodgers had a hell of a deadline.
Samuel
Move overrated FO in the business.
Van Lingle Mungo
Ah bitter fan is bitter. #Sad
Zombie Bukowski
Best regular season team a front office can buy and develop
frankiegxiii
Can’t argue with that.
Grantastic
Lame
Gmen777
They had to make this move. Rotation looks quite a bit more dangerous now
baseballpun
Of course.
Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee
Finally….
yogineely
Noice!
nickatl
Dude gets to go home.
Joemo
Man must be nice to be a Dodgers fan. Team is always spending and improving.
mrpadre19
When the Padres do it they are ridiculed.
Weird
cmanson
the additions the Padres make never seem to pan out.
Samuel
cmanson;
Like the Dodgers do?
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
And how many legitimate World Series have the Dodgers won?
Van Lingle Mungo
7 – Now do Padres
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I didn’t specify last 10 years, my bad
Van Lingle Mungo
1 – Now do Padres
Zombie Bukowski
Ouch
BlueSkies_LA
So you’re the guy who gets to decide which World Series are legitimate? I was wondering who had that authority.
619-858
0 Legit – Now do Padres
Zzyzyxca
Actually, 2. They are the legitimate championships of 2017; the Asstros are the illegitimate champions of 2017.
Zombie Bukowski
Ya he’s the only one that thinks that way.
LA, the city of smog and Covid Banners lmao
ElysianPark
A hell of a lot more than SD has.
All of the other teams played in 2020. Why did they bother if it meant nothing? As I recall, SD was pretty upset when they got bounced from the postseason in 2020.
Please don’t try to say they would have rejected the trophy.
highheat
@ElysianPark all of the other teams played in 2020 for money, just like the Dodgers; players wanted to get paid and teams wanted to make money.
That’s why they bothered playing in spite of ’20 being a glorified exhibition
User 4204968895
BlueSkies, just a head’s up that Chaim Breslow’s Purse doesn’t speak for all Red Sox fans.
johnrealtime
The players and teams play every year for money, that wasn’t just a 2020 thing
fox471 Dave
Chaim: seven. Why?
fox471 Dave
Yes, you are quite bad, Chaim.
Zombie Bukowski
Imagine basing the majority of your existence as a human being on the quality of a professional sports team you follow and being passive aggressive in the comments section on a website.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
It wasn’t a crack at the Padres, it’s just the fact that Dodgers win the deadline every year and don’t make it in the postseason. Who knows, this year could be different.
Padres wrecked their whole team from last year and change it every year… no wonder there’s no chemistry
BlueSkies_LA
Damn, Carmine, I was hoping I could ignore all the others!
User 4204968895
“it’s just the fact that Dodgers win the deadline every year and don’t make it in the postseason.”
Dodgers have appeared in the postseason every year since 2013. Look it up, troll.
karmabad
Padres like to unload ALL their elite farm system prospects, while LAD are typically a LOT more creative with the talent that’s swapped…they’re smarter.
619-858
How many of these Padres farm system prospects in the past 5 years or so are “elite” major league players? None. Preller drafts these guys, moves them up the system WAY too quickly and because he’s supposed to be an “expert talent evaluator” other teams bite.
The dude can spot excellent minor league players, but couldnt spot real major league talent if it landed on his face.
Brew’88
By ALL, do you also include Salas and de Vries?
Van Lingle Mungo
CJ Abrams was an All-Star and James Wood seems to be doing well. Gore is still young but there’s promise there.
cmet02
You’re just yapping with zero ball knowledge bro. Abrams has emerged as a future star this season, mckenzie gore is a solid rotation guy, and james wood has raked in the minors and shown promising signs in the bigs the past couple weeks. All that for an nlcs appearance with soto
kcmark
Prellernis still living off his Tampa reputation.
Blackpink in the area
The Padres sold the farm for a bunch of relievers.
619-858
Wrong. The “farm” is Ethan Salas and Leodalis De Vries and they are not sold.
Brew’88
@Blackpink. You mean they sold the farm “again” for a bunch of relievers. Next year they might sell the farm for some other types of position players. After many years of watching this process repeat itself over and over, I’m past the point of trying to figure out if it’s sustainable or not.
differentbears
It is, but those of us who’ve been fans for decades are well aware that this current run is unprecedented. I always felt like the Dodgers would be competitive, and we have had a history of Rookies of the Year and Cy Young winners.
But this is beyond anything I could have hoped for. Ownership is printing money and using it to improve the team every year during the season, and holding out for the right talent in free agency/offseason.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
You don’t remember 2017 when Kenley Jansen was the best pitcher on the planet and they didn’t think the Dodgers could lose?
Zzyzyxca
They didn’t lose.
ATinz
We get it, you’re a Dodger hater. Seek help.
fox471 Dave
And the Dodgers didn’t lose in 2017, as you know.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I’m not a Dodger hate if directed at me, I just get sick of hearing theyre the best when they haven’t won much in the postseason
Joemo
Yeah, the Dodgers seemed to realize that having a good team (in a good city, I have never been so ill just assume) helps them get more money, that the can then reinvest in the team, and it’s like printing money!
As a Sox fan, I can’t really complain. We have had a ton of recent success. But let that be a warning! The good times won’t last forever! Enjoy your 90+ win and playoffs spot every season
Zzyzyxca
We already learned that lesson in the FOX and Frank McCourt years. And, of course, getting screwed by Manfred and a bunch of cheaters has given Dodger fans perspective.
b00giem@n
Anyone else just sick of the dodgers?
Zombie Bukowski
Will be entertaining to watch them lose Pre-NLCS again lol
b00giem@n
Hahaha, that is true.
Zzyzyxca
We’ll see. One thing is certain: the Dodgers will be in the running for another championship come October. No front office can guarantee anything more than that.
Van Lingle Mungo
Nope
BlueSkies_LA
Anyone else just sick of these sour grapes comments?
Zombie Bukowski
#truthhurts
VegasMoved
I really don’t get where the vitriol comes from. People act like they’re the Yankees of the late ’90s, but they only have one title to show for it, and even THAT one people like to pretend doesn’t count. So what exactly is the issue?
BlueSkies_LA
A lot of people are really into hate these days.
Brew’88
it’s true and a lot of people have abandoned the process of reasoning..
User 4204968895
The Dodgers go for it every year. You can’t take that away from them.
Yoyoma123
Wait what? That’s all Dodgers gave up? Sheesh .. astros gave up wayyyy more for kikuchi lmao..
YankeesBleacherCreature
#SmallMarketEnvy
Zombie Bukowski
Good one!
At the end of the day I don’t hinge my whole existence on entertainment and pro sports. Life is really good. Good luck.
fox471 Dave
No, why, Boo?
nando390
Mid pitcher
chefly1
Mid comment
b00giem@n
Mid reply
sugoi51
Bare Midriff
TGriff
Poopy prospects
mnsports
So much has happened today, I completely forgot about Flaherty
kurizmuh
this is a nice pickup
abcrazy4dodgers
Woah yay!
differentbears
Let’s go!
Elon’sDOGEbag
The rest of his contract owed has been DEFERRED
Gyahaha
lesterdnightfly
How clever!
Now go do your homework. 5th grade won’t be easy for you.
Elon’sDOGEbag
How deliciously condescending!
Please continue to project your own intellectual deficiencies onto others- it will get you far in life.
Good-day!
lesterdnightfly
No more from me. Your own projections of such deficiencies leave the rest of us in the dust.
SteveFinleyEnthusiast
I am reading this in Heidegger’s voice, thank you
fox471 Dave
Heldegger, how deliciously inane.
PierceIn
If you’d actually read Heidegger, you’d know that every aspect of Dasein is infinitely deferred, because we are the beings-unto-death, with no unmediated access to the ontic.
Heidegger did not write about money, but it too is necessarily, by definition, ‘deferred.’ As money, it circulates endlessly, never alighting upon the Real. Even in an exchange for goods or labor, the recipient of money owns only a representation of a potential reality.
Yordaddy appreciator
They needed this badly. Whats the cost though?
Sadface
I think the Braves needed Flaherty more than the Dodgers, but didn’t make a move for a starting pitcher. Does not make sense.
Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee
Apparently not much….
Yordaddy appreciator
Friedman fleeces again
Butter Biscuits
My ninja!
Senor Smoke
Is Pee Wee sure Flaherty doesn’t have a no-trade clause?
mlbnyyfan
OMG Cashman has been asleep for the last hour.
Rob Schumann
Nah not a Cashman type deadline trade. He’ll overpay by sending some solid prospects for a #3 starter and a solid BP arm which will both flounder in NY before finishing the year on the IL. That way he can blame bad luck for falling short once again. Bringing back Jameson Taillon and getting Neris from the Cubs would be a Cashman move.
Yankee Clipper
Cashman is still “investigating the market” with his team of super nerds. They’ll be confident that they found a guy whose stats fit a bunch of check boxes.
And remember, the DFA line doesn’t have a deadline.
PierceIn
Damn — you Yankees fans are *pissed*. Living on the West Coast I hadn’t quite realized the depth of the dissatisfaction.
dkhits20
Unlike with E-Rod, he’s the one who signed Flaherty, so hopefully.
Mondesi’s Cannon
Yay!!!
AL B DAMNED
And the Braves trade Allan Winans to Gwinnett for Bryce Elder!!! WOW!! DIDN’T EXPECT THIS!!!
braveshomer
Exactly….AA shine is gonna wear off soon. Never signs FA of substance and never makes big moves at Trade deadline…and spare me the 2021 talk, that was dumb luck, great luck, but dumb luck
O'Manski's
Good luck to ya. Sure didn’t help the O’s for last years run. Guy was net negative in every way.
Van Lingle Mungo
LFG! Now what did AF have to give up? Outman should be gone or maybe Pages. Rushing?
Motown is My Town
The Tigers had better received a decent haul of prospects vs just doing a deal to do a deal. However I feel it’s the latter so Harris can save face while he peddles a complete line of BS defending the poor quality of prospects he got back. The more I see how he operates the more he reminds be of Bob Quinn and we all know in Detroit what that moron did to the Lions!
mlbnyyfan
Deadline over and Baltimore/Boston did nothing to scare me. Baltimore needed a Skubal
Dogs
No, Baltimore needs high ranked prospects. Ha, Ha, Ha
SportsFan0000
So they can get knocked out of the playoffs year after year without a World Series Flag and WS rings?!
If Orioles fans are happy with such low goals and outcomes, then that is welcome news to the rest of the AL East.
stymeedone
Year after year?! Pretty sure their run of consecutive playoff appearances is sitting on 1.
lesterdnightfly
There was no reason to keep Flaherty. Harris is doing the right thing at the right time.
Motown is My Town
Horrible return…Harris would have been better off keeping Flaherty and getting a CB pick in next year’s draft. Tigers will never be any good under Harris/Greenberg as both are in way over their heads
stymeedone
No one thinks Detroit should have kept Flaherty. They just think a more immediate return would have been nice. Fill a hole at 1B, SS or 3B. Prospects that may work out after Greene and Skubal have left in FA is not the desired result. Norby straight up would have been a better return.
gotigers68
This trade just goes down like all of the rest, we give up a MLB player and we get a prospect that may help us five years from now…..
Rally Goose
@gotigers68 Thayron Liranzo is probably a better prospect than whoever you would have drafted with that QO comp pick and you can bring Flaherty back in the offseason as a FA if you miss him so much.
84LeFlore
That’s good to know. I didn’t expect a king’s ransom for Flaherty, but wanted a fair return w/a possible contributor or two.
Some Tigers fans are unrealistic about how fast Harris should be turning the team around. This is only his 2nd year. I think he’s doing exactly what he should be doing: continuously trying to stockpile and upgrade talent.
kcmark
What pick? If Detroit gives him a QO he might accept.
Airo13
@84LeFlore and stockpiling prospects could come in handy if the tigers want to make trades in the future… The mass casual baseball fans are irritating.
Samuel
What sort of “haul” did you people expect?
The posts I read from Tigers fans as to what you/they expected for Flaherty, Skubal, and Canha were simply absurd…..even in a ridiculous sellers market.
Believing your own BS doesn’t make the people in charge
do silly things.
braveshomer
Way to sit on your hands AA…every trade season Braves dumpster dive. Yes that worked once in 2021 but not before or after smh
highflyballintorightfield
Just a note to those who are inclined to scream and cry about the Dodgers greedy and selfish spending: please keep doing it, it just makes us fans feel soooo good! 😀
Blackouts are racist
Weird post.
fox471 Dave
Why?
ManfredIsAJoke
This person is probably actually a Dodger hater like us cracking a joke. Anyone who supports that team is an actual piece of garbage. LA is the worst city on earth with the worst people and least knowledgable sports fan. Fine, buy Flaherty for his 15 minutes of fame because your other 8 starters aren’t good enough.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Larry David and his friends go to Dodgers games and they seem like knowledgeable fans.
ManfredIsAJoke
Larry David hates the Dodgers. He even said it on his show in an episode at a funeral. It’s a see-and-be-seen place. Food is okay — Mexican is your thing. Congrats on excelling at one dish and being the kings of smog, smug, bad traffic, and broken dreams.
PierceIn
Tell me you’ve never been to Cairo, Lagos, or New Delhi without etc.
Wherever you are, L.A. still has better food, weather, and sports fans than you do.
ManfredIsAJoke
Better sports fans? The biggest clowns on the planet. More into Hollywood and the beach and know nothing about sports yet entitled and thinks they deserve to see their teams buy every player they want to keep them happy.
PierceIn
More people have paid to watch the Los Angeles Dodgers than any team in any sport in the history of the world.
Let that sit for a second.
No team in the history of Earth has drawn more paying customers than the Dodgers.
Now go to bed; you have school in the morning and your mommy will get mad if she finds out you’re still up.
ManfredIsAJoke
You have to pay to watch games on TV even if you live in LA. You have to pay a higher ticket price than anywhere else in MLB after sitting in an hour of traffic to park up that dreadful hill. Most fans get there late and leave early — the LA way. You purchased two Japanese superstars to put butts in the seats and increase your global fanbase. Well done. You saw the Yankees do it for many years and want a piece of the action too. We get it. The roster is full of ringers as the endless funds needed to take on all sorts of contracts is laughable compared to other franchises whose owners supposedly have all the money in the world when you know that in reality the money to spend on players isn’t straight from the owners pocket (unless you’re the Guggenheim family apparently) and rather from TV and marketing revenue. Stop acting like this is some level playing field and the Dodgers are geniuses just because you attached yourselves to their success.
douglasb
that’s the spirit.
LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert
One of the most overated pitchers in the game. He benefited by being in the weakest hitting division in the game. Its not hard to have a low ERA when you are playing agaisnt teams with such low run production. Same reason why Skubal’s era is low. Competition matters
karmabad
whatever helps you sleep at night…coming from a Mets fan jesus christ complain away!
fred-3
They play an even schedule now. This was an argument under the old schedule.
Blackouts are racist
Except it’s a balanced schedule now.
Zzyzyxca
Well, we’ll find out if you are right, soon enough.
BleedingBlue162232
I thought the same thing about Dylan Cease going into the season, but he’s disproven that theory pretty well so far. Time will tell.
Diabetic Rockstar
Cleveland, Minnesota and Kansas City are all Top 11 in runs this year.
Also, the Tigers have played White Sox same # as every other team, their season series with CHI is backloaded. Instead DET just finished their season series with Cleveland, one of best offenses in league
So I’m not sure what the point of your post was…other than to highlight your inability to decipher basic team stats, your general ignorance on baseball … or was just a sad troll attempt for any type of attention because mommy ignored you as a child
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
All the W-L records are inflated in the AL Central because those teams get to play the ChiSox so much. There should be some penalty for that at some point.
weaselpuppy
Tigers have played the least games of any team vs the Whitesox this year
SportsFan0000
3-4 AL Central Teams are in the playoffs hunt.
Last time I checked, that was the most competitive Division in the AL and maybe all of baseball.
The Tigers are 7 games out of a playoffs spot and they are winning home and away series against many NL and AL playoffs teams.
ActionDan
I hope the Tigers resign him in the offseason. This trade had to be made even though he said he loves pitching for Detroit. He had too much value not to trade and LAD tends to overpay.
Senor Smoke
LA never overpays…..wakey wakey.
Zzyzyxca
Well, we lost one trade: Yordan Alvarez to the shameless cheaters. But, other than that, Friedman’s track record is supreme.
Niekro floater
Friedman also traded O’Neil Cruz for Tony Watson in ’17. Besides O’Neil n Alvarez he hasnt given up much during his acquisitions. @this point u have to trust Friedman n the process. Say what u want bout WS championships but Friedman’s a winner. Go Dodgers !
Doral Silverthorn
Watson was the Dodgers best pitcher in that playoffs. Not even mad about that trade. Dodgers have went through two superstar shortstops since.
fred-3
Jack was born in Burbank. It’s his dream to be a Dodger, but yeah, he’s gonna get Detroit a discount? Lol
Senor Smoke
“lol”? huh?
Dodgerfan74
Cool, I was raised in Burbank
BlueSkies_LA
People are raised in Burbank?
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
Niekro floater
Burbank High ’86 Go Bulldogs !
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Coming to you from the CBS sound studio in beautiful downtown Burbank it’s…..
Motor City Beach Bum
Did Jack tell you it was his dream to be a Dodger or did you just assume that? Guess he ticked that one off his bucket list and can head back to Detroit in the offseason where he’s had success and seemed to be comfortable.
fred-3
Google it. Jack grew up a Dodger fan, pitching in high school at Harvard Westlake in rotation of Max Fried and Lucas Giolito. He always had his best starts pitching at Dodger Stadium when he played for the Cardinals. I’m sure if these next 2 months go well, he’s gonna want to stay at home if the Dodgers offer him a contract.
sabres3277
Overpay!!! In a sellers market the Dodgers took my Tigers to the woodshed and we get two players whom we will probably never see in the lineup and they get the top expiring contract pitcher on the market. And if Flaherty keeps pitching great he will sign a big contract with a legitimate contender next year, like the Dodgers. Frustrated Tigers fan.
Rally Goose
@sabres3277 Thayron Liranzo is probably a better prospect than whoever you would have drafted with that QO comp pick and you can bring Flaherty back in the offseason as a FA if you miss him so much.
Motor City Beach Bum
Go read up on Liranzo. He actually sounds pretty good and looks like a keeper.
Sweeney will probably be in the lineup soon replacing Baez. He looks more like a future backup IF but could be more. Anything is better than Baez.
They didn’t get enough for Flaherty though.
I could see Flaheryy coming back to Setroit. He seemed comfortable there with Fetter and pitched well.
stymeedone
Not this time, action dan.
Zombie Bukowski
All this to lose in the NLDS again
SportsFan0000
You can set your watch to it!
James74 3
This is exactly why I’m a Dodgers fan. Nice
thickiedon
Shocking. Costed less than the Kikuchi haul lol
DrCox
No Scott, no Flaherty… Yankees 😀
SportsFan0000
What is up with Cashman?!
He could have offered more than that.
AJ Preller could have landed Flaherty if the bar was so low!
For Love of the Game
The Tigers got a better prospect (Montalvo) for Chafin than they got for Flaherty. Fire Scott Harris – he doesn’t know how to trade (see, Rodriguez, Eduardo).
dkhits20
That’s sure what it looks like.
Motor City Beach Bum
I will have to disagree on that. After being pissed off hen i first saw the return I read up on Liranzo and ge is a 50 FV prospect who looks like a keeper. I’ve always like Sweeney but he’s looking like a backup IF. Still a backup IF would hit mote than Baez so play him tomorrow!
I think they could have gotten a better return for Flahery. Look at the Rogers and Kikuchi returns. The problem with those returns vs what they did get is Sweeney and Liranzo help fill organizational needs at SS and C. The Tigers have OFers, so Loperfido and Stowers aren’t needed. Norby…they could have used him…shift Keith to 1B.
I wonder if Liranzo was the highest FV prospect they could get?
Brew’88
@ Motor. I was shocked by what the Astros gave up for Kikuchi, who is also a rental. I think the Pads (who were coveting Flaherty) would have offered SP Snelling and some other lower tier prospects, and maybe they did, but Snelling isn’t as polished nor highly ranked (anymore) as Liranzo.
Motor City Beach Bum
Liranzo and Snelling had great years last year but neither is doing as well this year. I like the looks of Liranzo more after reading up on him but I think the return the Tigers got was light. I do like Snelling though and I liked Lesko even more, despite his terrible season.
I think the Tigers waited too long hoping for a better deal and ended up taking the best prospect they could get, but not necessarily the best package.
THEY LIVE!!!
What did the Tigers get???
gotigers68
Zero.
SportsFan0000
They got HOSED!
SportsFan0000
Snelling is a younger version of Skubal.
He pitched much better in ’03 and earlier years.
He had one “off year”
Can’t believe Tigers passed on Snelling. What other players were in that proposed deal?!
stymeedone
Passed on Snelling? Where, other than speculation, was it said he was offered?
Senor Smoke
Pee Wee got fleeced again….the Dodgers never lose trades….not ever.
billw-2
looked up the 2 prospects……hmmm…one guy(Thayron Liranzo) is hitting .220 in A+ and is 20. Trey Sweeney is 24 and has 13 HR’s and hitting .255 is the super hitter friendly PCL league. No one could beat that?????
ElysianPark
Liranzo’s stock was rising. He was in the Futures All-Star game. Sweeney has power and speed as a SS. They got something for Flaherty.
warnbeeb
Sweeney looks like a slightly better version of Ryan Kreidler. Liranzo looks like a couple years away. LH’d hitting catcher. Maybe he can hit a little.
I’m not overwhelmed with this haul.
The Tigers will not catch the Royals. 4th place assured. And the ChiSox have cemented their hold on last place.
NerdPowahh
Tigers fans knew a month ago they were going to be in 4th place.
stymeedone
Not with 3 minutes to the deadline they couldn’t.
KhaluChris
I would have rather kept him and got the compensatory selection… the only way the Tigers make out ahead in this trade is if they sign Flaherty back in the offseason. One thing is absolutely clear though about Scott Harris – he is in way over his head.
warnbeeb
Harris has yet to show he can make a significant trade. He’s pretty good on the secondary, roster depth trades, and plucking decent dudes off the waiver wire, but as for bringing in a guy via a trade that will win you a pennant, not so much.
Diabetic Rockstar
You realize that comp selection would have been an even worse return, yeah?
I mean Sweeney was a #20 overall selection cpl years ago. The comp pick would be like pick #60-70.
Motor City Beach Bum
Comp pick is mote likely to be in the 30’s because Flaherty will get mote than $50 million in the offseason.
Thos deal beats the comp pick for sure. I just don’t think they got enough even though I like both players and they help address some organizational needs.
SportsFan0000
I am glad that Harris at least had the sense not to accept similar “low ball” offers for Skubal. That is they kind of blunder that can get you fired.
The league appears to be “testing” Harris like they “tested Avila”.
Most of the Tigers players on their next contender are going to have to come though AA Erie and AAA Toledo.
A Ball Lakeland Flying Tigers just won a championship so all is not lost for Tigers fans. The Tigers now have a “Top 10” farm system.
They just have to be careful not to get fleeced in trade deals.
benhen77
Dodgers gonna Dodger.
BZski
Harris is a joke. This return sucks!
Eisnor12
Astro’s screwed the tigers here by overpaying for Kikuchi. After that Harris wanted something similar or better but no team would budge. Now pulled off a last minute deal to get at least something rather then a comp pick
For Love of the Game
That’s the way it appears. I would have taken the Comp. pick and had a more energized fan base for the rest of 2024.
Motor City Beach Bum
I did som reading in him after the initial shock about the return and Liranzo looks like he’s worth more than the comp pick.
I still think they could have got more though.
stymeedone
I think they should have gotten more immediate help. Enough with rebuild trades, with prospects that may arrive in 2-4 years. How about adding to the current roster?
SportsFan0000
With such “low ball” offers, Harris should have held onto Flaherty and tried to extend him’and let him become the next Doug Fister for the Tigs.
Then, Harris and the Tigers would have had the last laugh.
boysofsummer
Giddyup. Dodgers needed an insurance arm and they got one.
Murray Rothbard
Liranzo has some of the highest exit velocities in the dodgers org and he’s a 20 year old switch hitting catcher. He’d be a top prospect on teams without Rushing and Cartaya ahead of him. I think he led his league in HR last year too. He could turn into something special with the right coaching.. Trey Sweeney is depth but at least he plays middle infield. This trade was done mostly to get a high risk/high reward catching prospects like Thayron into the system.
Motor City Beach Bum
The more i tead about him, the more I like the looks of Liranzo. I’ve also liked Sweeney since he got drafted. It addresses a couple of problem areas in the organization at SS and C. The Tigers just didn’t get enough in the deal though. After the Erod fiasco last year Harris/Greenberg needed a clear win. They were one prospect short of it.
norcalblue
Hope he performs well for you BCBB. The kid can mash!
warnbeeb
Remember, ERod hung Harris out to dry. He said he would waive the no trade clause to the Dodgers but when his agent asked for an extension the Dodgers said no. Then ERod said no.
I agree with those here who think other GMs are testing Harris. So far, it doesn’t look like deadline deals are his forte. If he’s going to make a splash in the trade market it’s going to have to be in the offseason.
We have enough prospect currency to pull off a Dombrowski like Cabrera deal. or a Scherzer from Arizona one. Does Harris dare?
Motor City Beach Bum
I agree that Harris/Greenberg need to show us something in the offseason. I’m all for building a sustainable system but they need to add this offseason to the current team like you and Stymedone said. Show us their Cabrera deal to get the fans excited again. Spend some if that prospect capital. GET A REAL SS WHO CAN HIT (Kim, Adames?). Then why not go get Yandy Diaz….TBs prices were reasonable at the deadline. That fills two holes and Jung can fill the other at 3B.
stymeedone
So why not Rushing or Cartaya in the trade? Always nice to get the 3rd best minor league C of an organization when giving up the Best SP on the market.
Motor City Beach Bum
Some sites list Liranzo ahead of Cartaya and they were close in the rankings. With Digler coming up and Rogers still theredid they need Cartaya? Rushing can play 1B too so I get that but it doesn’t sound like he was in play from LAs end.
Rally Goose
BTV says this was an overpay for LA but seems like every buyer had to overpay this year. I’d rather we have gotten this dude than Tanner Scott, Bryan Hoeing and Martin Perez for what we gave up.
YankeesBleacherCreature
BTV doesn’t account for context of the Dodger’s position and goals. A’s would never lose a BTV trade.
highflyballintorightfield
I think this shows the value of team control. Marlins got a much better return for a 4th starter with 2 more years of control than the Tigers did for the top rental.
Blackpink in the area
And to add to that salary matters. Rogers is cheap Flaherty makes a lot.
Mojo37
thanks Andrew. you made it interesting waiting until the last 5 minutes. worth the wait.
619-858
Is it? I think you should wait until October to make that determination.
Mojo37
619—
why don’t you set your level of daily enjoyment and I’ll set mine?
kingsfan1968
Great!
FanDan
Is this all it took? Most teams could have beaten that offer.
mlbnyyfan
Sweeny on the move again. Maybe there is less pressure in Detroit he can thrive.
jj954
I feel like the Dodgers- Padres are the new Redsox – Yankees. They make moves to block the other team from getting the guy. I love it
sabres3277
So the Tigers trade Flaherty for two low rung minor league players and Toronto gets three players for Kikuchi including two who were on Houston’s major league roster??? Kikuchi has an over 6.00 ERA since June and Flaherty ERA is close to 2.00. Harris and Greenberg wait to the end of the deadline and get nothing that can help the roster in the next few years. I am trying to give Harris the benefit of the doubt but we got nothing for Flaherty and Toronto gets three players for a struggling pitcher. I am sure Houston would have definitely traded those three players for a much better pitcher in Flaherty. The Dodgers were desperate for pitching in a sellers market and the Tigers get fleeced.
Murphy NFLD
I’m a jays fan and I was very pleasantly surprised at what the jays got for Kikuchi ,even just the starting pitcher Bloss was good enough IMO. I honestly thought that he would go to the dodgers considering the Japanese connection with not only players but market both local and international. The only thing I could think is not only did the jays get a better offer but maybe the players didn’t like him either. I can’t figure out why the astros would pay more for Kikuchi then they could get Jack for. Kikuchi has durability going for him aswell as being a lefty out of the pen in shorter playoff series which would fit the LAD better but maybe Huston liked that aswell. I really can’t figure this out? Isn’t the Tigers Manager a former Astro? Maybe there is some bad blood somewhere and the deals were different?
Motor City Beach Bum
Sweeney is in AAA. He’ll likely get called up to play SS soon and kick Baez to the bench. Liranzo looks like a keeper.
I liked the package Toronto got for Kikuchi though.
Luke Strong
Love this deal, Sweeney has gotta be making his MLB debut at SS Thursday, he seems like he could be a solid everyday player. And Liranzo looks like a solid catching prospect. Looks like he struggled a bit this season after hitting 24 homers the year before… but a catcher who hit 24 homers, that’s a strong starting point. Tigers did everything right with Flaherty.
Motor City Beach Bum
Not super happy with that return. I would have liked the return they got for Kikuchi better. Liranzo has a good review on him and looks interesting. Sweeney has looked more like a backup IF than a starter but hey call him up and start him at SS now! Anything is better than Baez.
Blackpink in the area
Yeah I thought the Tigers would do a little better but you never know with prospects.
Motor City Beach Bum
I would imagine Sweeney will get a chance to audition very soon. We’ll have to wait a few years to see if Liranzo was worth it. Cheers dude.
ManfredIsAJoke
This league is an actual joke. Hard to believe people listen to LA “fans” trying to peddle the narrative that “their favorite team does it too!” I wish the Dodgers had stayed healthy all year so their actual team could fall short of a title because you knew the second they had any adversity (winning your division every year and being up by 6.5 games isn’t enough) they’d buy, buy, and buy some more. Kershaw or Buehler may not even be in the postseason rotation, or maybe Gavin Stone, but who cares when you can just purchase a shiny new toy thanks to your daddies the Guggenheim family who have endless money and get help from the other garbage teams of the league providing you any extra talent you want.
bluesteele
They are the smartest team in baseball and play by the same rules that 30 owners created. Change the rules if you want, but don’t be mad that they are brilliant at raising homegrown talent, retooling players that others gave up on and not overspending on guys like Kikuchi or Adam Jones like others? Smart ass baseball minds! They never panic.
ManfredIsAJoke
Homegrown talent? When you can buy 70% of your roster how many “homegrown” guys do you actually need to hit on? Only Lux/Smith homegrown from the lineup (Pages/Outman not even playing every day). Rotation currently doesn’t include Buehler, and Kershaw has been signing back up as a FA forever. Treinen, Hudson, Kelly, Brasier all bought. Get that garbage out of here. Just admit that your team has an advantage. Go ahead, be a fan, but stop trying to justify it. It sure as hell isn’t fair, no one said it had to be, but at least acknowledge it.
bluesteele
I’d say Smith, Lux, Pages, Kersh, Buehler, Miller, Stone, May and Graterol are all pretty good “homegrown talent”. I’d say Seager and Bellinger were pretty good even though LAD let others pay more for them. I agree they have advantages, but you discount all of the intelligent stuff they do and you get caught up on money like a jealous B. They’re just smarter. It’s not like SF and TOR didn’t offer Ohtani the same offer. Others try and fail. Keep hating!!
Smelly_Cobb
traded for graterol
VegasMoved
“justify it”
Again, what are you talking about? What needs justifying, here?
The Saber-toothed Superfife
The K was McCord days….
Brew’88
Adam Jones. Haven’t heard that name in a few years. Great career and GG CF in Baltimore and well-worth his salary IMO. I trained with him when he was in HS in San Diego..
highflyballintorightfield
Your tears are delicious. They sustain me, and I thank you for them.
Willzsco
Cry harder.
VegasMoved
“their favorite team does it too!”
Does what exactly? What are you talking about?
YankeesBleacherCreature
Why complain here? Write to your team billionaire owner. Call your local sports radio stations and reporters. Every org plays by the same rules. Some play it safe and is only interested in collecting profits. They’re all worth at least a billion.
bluesteele
Anyone else questioning how long this trade has been a “Report” and not “Official”? Feels like there is a third player that needs to be notified. Maybe a guy on the roster? Is that crazy?
wileycoyote56
Once again we see how pitiful Harris is. 2 straight years he has one of the top pitchers and barely gets any value from this one. Typical of Harris, at least he didn’t trade for Maton again
Motor City Beach Bum
First he traded for Maton, Sands and VIERLING. The Vierling piece of that trade has turned out really well so who cares about the other two. They won that trade.
I was initially pissed at the return, and I still think he could have gotten a better return. But…he did get a SS who can likely play now and a catcher of the future who is 50 FV. Two areas that they needed to address got addressed. I have liked Sweeney since he got drafted but he looks the part of a backup IF. I didn’t know much about Liranzo (because I was hoping for Rushing or Cartaya) and did some reading and like what I read. He might end up better than Rushing or Cartaya.
Having said that, they needed to get more. This wasn’t a good enough return for Flaherty. Harris/Greenberg better have a good offseason.
wileycoyote56
If he re-signs Flaherty this winter because he did him a favor sending him to LA, then it’s a decent trade. He did send him to a team that should have a great chance of getting to the World Series. Maybe he remembers that and signs with Detroit this offseason, but getting Illitch to spend the money might be tough, I wish Jack the best. At least Harris didn’t give Skubal away for nothing!
tammelinb
Yet. Skubal will be traded away for some magic beans eventually
SportsFan0000
Flaherty just went to LA.
I would be surprised if, after playing in LA, that he goes back to Detroit.
That is why Harris blew it .
If the deal doesn’t work for your time, then hold him and try to extend him.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Dom just traded Soto after 2 years? And probably back more than he gave up originally. I like Vierling too….but he is up and down. Currently a .255 BA.
UncleVin
Good pickups for the Dodgers at a very reasonable price. As we all know, the stretch run will tell the story of whether or not the chemistry works or not. SD and AZ are right there, and have already had the pleasure of beating them the last 2 years.
Flanster
Dodgers swoop in at the last minute, to win the trade deadline!!!
Niekro floater
-Flanster
And kept all their top prospects. It’s good to be the king. Go Dodgers !
MPrck
Outstanding haul by Detroit today. With Madris putting a lock on first, they can bring back someone off the I.L with no problem for now. I’m surprised no one wanted Urschella, but he plays very well for Detroit. 2 big position players is a great pick up. Detroit has three O.F on the I.L, so I hope Carpenter or one of them can learn to play first as they are all left handed hitters.
James74 3
It will be interesting to see which starters get left off the playoff roster for the Dodgers
VegasMoved
Don’t worry, enough of them will be injured that it’ll sort itself out.
BlueSkies_LA
Maybe but it’s at least a little more interesting than you let on for a few reasons. For one, especially if Yamamoto returns as the Dodgers say they expect, and with a potentially healthy Kershaw and Buehler, the playoff roster could get really interesting.
surfdoc37
What a crap return for the Tigers on Flaherty.
BlueSkies_LA
It’s all gravy, really. They signed him as a rebound candidate for not a lot of dough and got back a couple of prospects for him. Obviously nobody offered anything more or they’d have taken that deal. I mean this is the pitcher the Dodgers should have signed instead of Paxton.
ElysianPark
Exactly…..I had hoped they would sign Flaherty, not Paxton. The lefty or righty issue didn’t matter, IMO. Flaherty was more likely a bounceback candidate at age 28 than Paxton was going to be a solid addition.
Niekro floater
Now go kick the dog. Alota unnecessary anger n it’s your own fault for letting the Dodgers in your head like you’ve done. Haters gonna hate. Maybe your a soccer fan n baseballs not for u ?
raef715
no brainer for the Dodgers. Maybe the Tigers held out for too much after the Kikuchi return last night and then just had to make a deal.
Flaherty did have some back issue at the start of the month though, right?
fox471 Dave
There’s Mickey Solis, the human clown shoe. Hey Mick!
larry48
Padres in 2023 couldn’t make payroll and had borrow millions from MLB. Will the padres have to do it again in 2024?
RBFSSolution
Jack Flaherty was average before he started throwing the Roger Beshens Football Slider in May 2018.
That was the FIRST YEAR in his PRO career he could avg over 1 K an IP.
Same for his school buddy Max Fried, Fried for the 1st time in his career found the RB Football Slider and averaged Over a K an IP.
Then Giolito another HS buddy started avg over a K an IP in 2019, He decided to shorten his arm path after learning the RB Football Slider.
SchnauzerFace
Do you work for the RB Football Slider Corporation or something?
RBFSSolution
I communicate with Strom a lot.
AAATIGERS2020
Time to cancel my Bally Sports Detroit subscription.
Rally Goose
Ummbyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
joefriday1948
Detroit’s Harris had nothing to trade. His time is at hand. Say goodbye to Hitch too. Ilitch should consider selling the team in hopes it can relocate so Detroit can get an expansion team someday. What a consistent embarrassment of leadership. The results are another year down the toilet.
joefriday1948
You were wrong
dkhits20
When I read that that the Yanks were expecting to acquire a top-tier available starter and trade Nestor, I was almost hoping we’d trade Flaherty to the Yankees so we could have gotten Nestor as part of the return. We have a pretty significant problem right now… we need innings! There’s no timetable on Olsen’s and Manning’s returns from the IL and Mize is out for at least another month. We can’t go another two months doing 4 bullpen games a week. Gonna be a loooong rest of the season.
For Love of the Game
How’s your fastball, dk?
– Scott H. (I’m serious, but the last name isn’t Harris)
dkhits20
No fastball, Mr. H, but at this point you’re gonna have to settle for my 50mph eephus which I can mix with a 30mph eephus if you like.
isolatedpower
Oh okay cool, I’ll just go **** myself now
But hey, at least the Yankees got ::checks notes:: jorbit vivas and Victor Gonzalez for Sweeney, neither of which are helping us win this year. Good stuff.
General Smokey Clay
Flaherty’s back has been an issue of late. While he’s been really good while on the mound, and hasn’t missed more than a couple starts, the fact that he’s been receiving shots for back pain must raise flags and diminish his value as a rental.
dkhits20
Yes, and it’s the same reason that the Tigers most likely WON’T re-sign him in the offseason.
SportsFan0000
You can have the best hand in the house and not know what to do with it and/or how to play it.
This Tigers deal is a big miss for the Tigers Front Office.
They had an All Star top of the rotation starter to deal.
They accepted a couple of “lottery ticket” players deep in the Dodgers farm system?!
They should have insisted on one of the Dodgers major league ready rotation arms in AAA and then another player/prospect with nice upside.
Great deal for the Dodgers.
Below average deal for the Tigers.
The Tigers would have been better off extending Flaherty like they did years ago did with Fister rather that accept such an low offer for Flaherty.
Motor City Beach Bum
Go read up on Liranzo. He actually sounds pretty good. He was rated as high as #3 in the Dodgers system according to one prospect evaluation, I think BA listed him at #74 in their top 100 and he has 50 FV. Not a lottery ticket. Still, I think they could have done better for the overall package.
Flaherty wanted to test free agency. At least that is what I read. Nothing saying the Tigers can’t sign him this offeseason.
Obviously no one ponied up the asking price for Skubal so why would they trade him? It just screws the starting staff for next year.
SportsFan0000
The Dodgers system has been reduced at the upper levels by promotions and many trades.
I had read a little on both the guys they received and they could be diamonds in the rough and/or future trade bait.
The best thing Al Avila did was when he hired Ryan Garko as Director of Player Development. Since then, the Tigers have been trading for and unlocking value in players that other teams did not see like Reese Olson, Gipson-Long Kerry Carpenter and others.
Apparently, the Yankees leaked their questions about Flaherty’s medicals that tanked his value, according to reports.
Flaherty has been traded and signed as a FA before and no other team thought his medicals posed any big problems?!
The Orioles made a huge mistake in not ponying up for Skubal.
Could be another “one and out” of the AL playoffs for them.
Harris was smart in not taking a “low ball” offer for Skubal.
placido my polanco
It looks to me like Harris panicked. They scratched him from his start like cowards, asked for too much from the wrong teams and settled on a lesser deal. Underwhelming is about right
SportsFan0000
From what I am reading, NYY had questions about his physicals. Flaherty has been traded and signed as FA and there have not been past questions about his medicals.
Is this Cashman’s NYY’s way of trying to drive Flaherty’s trade value down?!
Or are there real concerns about his medicals?!
The_Conductor
Just a horrible trade on Scott Harris’s behalf.
That pick at the end of the first round would have been so much better.
He and his staff are obsessed with on base percentage. At some point you need run producers.
Motor City Beach Bum
Liranzo is worth more than the pick. He had a wicked year last year and so-so this year. I think that BA had him in their top 100 around #74.
Sweeney should play SS now just so we don’t have to look at Baez strike out anymore.
But I think they could have gotten a better overall package.
GarryHarris
Although I feel like the Tigers didn’t get that one good prospect I was hoping for, I’m glad Jack Flaherty didn’t break down as he does every year. For all we know, Flaherty pitches a few games more then ends up on the Dodgers’ IL before seasons’ end.
I’m not a scout. Don’t get caught up with the sports talk radio people. They don’t know anything about anything and have ZERO accountability for sharing their mindlessness with the public. When it comes to trades, it’s still the ‘Rule of Seven’. It takes seven years to evaluate a trade.
surfdoc37
Pretty indefensible that there was also no pitching headed towards the Tigers in this deal. Feel like they should have gone for Ferris instead of the Ryan Kreidler clone.
SportsFan0000
One of their starters like Ryan, Hurt or Wrobleski
should have been the ask along with a lottery ticket player.
sergefunction
You appear to under appreciate the value of Ryan Kreidler to Tiger ownership.
He has been the subject of hardly any high-profile arrests, as few as none. He says the right things about ownership. He is a skilled puppet, doing what he is told, rattles no Tiger cages,
Most importantly, he will never demand outrageous salaries.
Motor City Beach Bum
Ferris would have been a good add along with Liranzo but it doesn’t seem LA was going to give up a player ranked that high along with Liranzo.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
A couple of pretty big dudes, physical presence. Surprising. Maybe he knows something. .220 BA, 33% SO, 30 RUN value….
Let’s hope so.
I have always had a preference for packing guys together for a higher end return….Harris doesn’t seem very aggressive or much of a sales person…. you know…who they could have hired?
The Saber-toothed Superfife
The fans would have been much happier…. (free bèer nights!)
YourDreamGM
A for LA. Got the best playoff arm available and for nothing they couldn’t afford to trade. Lots of ? with those 2 prospects.
C for Detroit. 2 upside prospects. Probably had higher hopes. Maybe played their hand too hard. Houston sent more to Toronto.
Senor Smoke
What the Tigers did for Flaherty was stand him up heading downhill in his delivery. He had the classic backward bend and the back will be okay with that until one bright afternoon when somebody didn’t take their stretching seriously. Everybody has heard of “muscle memory”…well, the muscles remember what was done to them too and won’t tolerate repeated insults. They will produce pain and stiffness and hitting them with cortisone only masks the problem. Flaherty’s tenure in Detroit was mostly successful as long as they kept an eye on him and let him know between innings if the was falling back into old habits trying to throw harder. We’ll see if the Dodgers spot it and how diligent they will be monitoring him. Given the result of the final few minutes, I doubt if Harris told them how to keep Jack healthy. He’s where he belongs, where he came from, and I hope it works out for him. And maybe Pee Wee found a sleeper who will bloom in Detroit down the road….we’ll see.
THEY LIVE!!!
The article should read,
“Dodgers acquire damaged goods and a head case for a canana boy & a gardener.”
THEY LIVE!!!
Hope I’m wrong about Flaherty, at least being damaged goods.
THEY LIVE!!!
At least the Tigers didn’t give up Skubal for a marginal infielder & a couple of rookie league prospects.
ElysianPark
The Dodgers were not going to give up a top young rotation arm for Flaherty. Who were you thinking, Stone or Miller? Please.
THEY LIVE!!!
Where did I suggest that?
ManfredIsAJoke
Ohtani. Yamamoto. Glasnow. Teoscar. Hudson. Kershaw (yes he was a FA). And all that wasn’t enough for the biggest scumbags on earth, all so they could finally buy their first legit ring since 1988. So now it’s Biggio, Kiermaier, Flaherty, Kopech, Edman, Rosario. Not only is it sick, but the fans who support it are even bigger pieces of garbage.
ManfredIsAJoke
At least Betts and Freeman and Heyward and Muncy and Taylor are all homegrown. Oh, wait…
The Saber-toothed Superfife
You know, the Tigers had their opportunity to hire someone…..and DIDN’T.
So….
Technically, this is NOT Harris’ fault….