5:25pm: Cora confirmed the news after today’s game, per Bob Nightengale of USA Today on X. The deal is now official, per Julian McWilliams of the Boston Globe on X.
2:25pm: Per Jon Heyman of The New York Post on X, Cora and the Sox have agreed to a three-year deal of more than $7MM annually, which aligns with the figure from Olney. Heyman says the deal is being finalized now.
1:50pm: The Red Sox and manager Alex Cora have recently engaged in talks about a contract extension, per Jeff Passan and Buster Olney of ESPN, as relayed by Passan on X. Passan says there is momentum towards a deal with a multi-year deal possible. In a subsequent tweet, he adds that the sides have talked about a three-year pact. Olney tweets that the discussed deals would pay Cora in the range of $21.75MM over those three years.
Cora, 48, has been the subject of speculation for a while since he is in the final year of his current contract. The club finished last in the American League East in both 2022 and 2023, which led the franchise to fire chief baseball officer Chaim Bloom. Cora stayed on with Craig Breslow replacing Bloom, but it wasn’t clear if Cora would stay beyond the current season.
Some had speculated that Cora might look to pivot to a front office role, something he has openly expressed an interest in. Others wondered if he might follow the path of Craig Counsell, who surprised many by becoming a free agent and signing with the Cubs for $40MM over five years, changing the landscape of salary expectations for high-profile managers.
After those aforementioned last-place finishes, the Sox went on to have a fairly modest offseason. Their most notable deal in the winter was signing Lucas Giolito to a two-year deal, but they also traded away Chris Sale and then Giolito required season-ending surgery, seemingly leaving the club worse than where they were before.
Expectations were therefore fairly low but the Sox have easily surpassed them. Thanks largely to breakouts from incumbent players like Tanner Houck, Jarren Duran, Wilyer Abreu, Kutter Crawford and others, the Sox are 54-46, putting them just one game back of a playoff spot.
As recently as last month, Cora told reporters that he and the club had no plans to discuss a midseason extension, but it appears that has now changed. Perhaps that’s due to the club performing better than expected or simply because Cora and Breslow have now had a few months to work together and become comfortable with one another.
The franchise has shown loyalty to Cora before. He managed the club in 2018 and 2019, winning the World Series in the first of those years, but he missed the 2020 season after being suspended by Major League Baseball. Cora was the bench coach for the Astros in 2017 and received that punishment for his role in their infamous sign-stealing operation. Ron Roenicke served as the bench boss in Boston that year but Cora was re-hired after his suspension was served, a two-year deal with club options for 2023 and 2024.
The Sox then went on a surprise playoff run 2021, despite finishing in last in the East the year prior. On the heels of that strong season, the Sox preemptively exercised both of their club options, keeping Cora in the dugout through 2024. That contract is now nearing its completion but it sounds as though there’s a good chance of a new deal getting done to keep him in Boston.
Why not.
Chris – There’s a long list of why not. Last year was one of his worst as manager, and he admitted it.
Now that he’s in a contract year he’s supposedly changed? I don’t buy it.
NESN announcers today have been talking a lot about the advantage Cora has with being bilingual and being able to relate to the Latin players. That’s great, but it doesn’t condone all his faults and weaknesses …. especially his handling of the pitching staff.
His handling of the pitching staff is beyond atrocious.
Every year it’s the same thing with the staff and the pen is now showing signs. He misses and burns out the staff by August. Will not be happy if the biggest deadline move is extending Cora.
dewey – History gives us hope.
“There is momentum towards a deal ” – Jeff Passan 07/24/24
“Momentum between the Red Sox and Xander Bogaerts” – Pete Abraham 12/07/22
Dewey – look at the pitching staffs he has had to manage. They have been god awful. What else is he supposed to do? The bullpen gets burned out because the SP suck or are hurt or just plain suck and the team refuses to adequately address it.
If they adequately addressed the pitching in the off-season, then the bullpen wouldn’t get burnt out.
Can’t blame Cora for Bloom putting together horrible rosters.
Joe – Bloom didn’t put together the 2019 defending champion roster, which was comprised almost entirely of players from the 108-win championship team.
Coop – The Red Sox players are so excited about the extension they have already committed two errors and are losing 5-1 to the lowly Rockies. Duran even hit into a doubleplay, how often has that happened?
Hopefully the Sox have a comeback in them, otherwise they will be coming off a 1-5 road trip against one team that is awful and another team that had been playing awful the prior 15 games.
Bailey has a lot of input into handling the pitching staff. Cora has a whole coaching staff giving input to him about everything.
The pitching staff is hitting a wall. I don’t love Cora, but he is limited by the quality of staff he has. Houck has been dreadful lately and Pivetta is pitching like he used to when he was so inconsistent. Since nobody expected them to be anywhere near contention, I think they are doing the best they can with what they have. Criswell has had starts that made him look like he could be a solid #3 starter and he was not expected to amount to anything. I just don’t see that Cora is nearly as bad as some make him out to be considering what he has to work with. That is not to say I was not ready for a change from Cora.
Lol
I blame Henry for not giving Bloom fresh dollars. Bloom looked towards the future and brought in players such as Pivetta. Abreu and Hamilton. Many laughed when he brought back JBJ but he did so to get the youngsters. I’m ok with Breslow but I wanted Bloom to be able to lead the team when the youngsters he brought in matured. That said, his not bringing in pitching is what hurt. Benny should have been traded long before he was and others like Bogie could have been dealt for pitching. Not sure if that was on him or Henry.
You mean that awful playing team that just swept the Red Sux this past weekend with half its roster in the DL. All their players hurt and they still have the 2nd best record in the NL LOL.
Yet you take time to comment on them LOL.
I have been on this site for years. I don’t agree with everyone’s opinions, but would not call any of the regulars trolls. I have moved a few times and changed emails and user names. Grew up in New England and been a Red Sox fan since the 70s. Not new to this. My preference would have been for Cora to move on and Tek to get his chance, but never been a hater of Cora.
Yes. You can. It is the job of the manager to get the most out of his players
TF – Uh oh, is one of the haters that I’ve muted again talking crap about us?
Gotta love the pathetic “I hate them so much I can’t stop talking about them” losers! LOL!!!
So TF what are your thoughts on the extension? Seems odd he didn’t at least wait until after the season when he would have been a free agent and therefore gotten a lot more money.
Like I said earlier, the nice thing about the length is they shouldn’t have any issue with firing him before the extension is done. After all, they are so used to paying millions for players to NOT play for them …. I’m sure they wouldn’t mind paying a manager to NOT manage the team! LOL!!
Kittens – Cora has made a lot of bad decisions.
For example, last Friday intentionally walking Smith to face Freeman with the bases loaded …. the Fox announcers roasted Cora on that one throughout Saturday’s game.
So many more, but I can’t keep taking the time to repeat many of them over and over. He is wayyyyy too fixated on L/L matchups.
He can only pitch the guys he is given. He hasn’t been given the depth needed because their pitching development was atrocious. That has never been his fault.
How clever! How meaningful! Did you make that up all by yourself?
I wasn’t convinced of any legitimate insight in your multiple comments until I saw that you used that hilarious, profound “LOL” thing.
Now I know exactly how much to value your input.
How did Bogaerts work out?
Lester – You’re boring. All those posts and not one mention of baseball in any of them. What are you, an attention seeking prepubescent who thinks you’re clever?
Prove you’re not an alt by bringing something to the table that involves baseball, otherwise you know what happens next.
Thank you.
@Fever Pitch Guy And this is where you get to bullying mode, Fever Pitch Guy. You just have to attack other posters, don’t you? You didn’t mention baseball in your post either, so you’re just as bad as he is.
What pitching staff?? This is the first time in 3 years that they had reliable starters.
Right on Fever. Pen useage, from when used, to who is actively on the 26 man roster. his choices pitching wise are bad at best, tho Boston fans in general seem to love him.
Wa really hoping a Varitek would swoop in and take the helm after he walked away after the season and ruined game after game late with poor pitcher choices for some other team.
“tek might not want the job and headaches which accompany the job being the negative, especially in such an always negative media market like Boston.
Agree that it was Tek’s turn and I don’t disagree that Cora has made some questionable moves with who he keeps on the roster and how the pen is used. On the other hand he has limited talent to work with.
Pedro, Right now? There is -0- healthy and viable options at AAA with Isaiah Campbell back on the 7 day list yet again.
My issues have been with his flipping the consistent Cam Booser back to AAA, solid or not. Keeping the poor the last 2 months (example) Weissert on the 26 man, options tho he has. Continuing to use guys in late situations, tho they were having issues game after game (Weissert) and even Bernandino with both dating back to Late June.
Have posted this before, but roster decisions entirely, like just why Joelly Rodriquez was on the 26 man on opening day and pitched no better than he did regular season than he did during ST.
Now, that the Slaten’s Martin’s, Isaiah Cambell and even out of options Bryan Mata’s are all on the DL? There isn’t a guy at AAA I see who could help this team’s BP that is in dire need of help, despit having 3 relievers there wasting 40 man spots who I’d trust less than Chase Anderson.
Agree 100% about Booser. He has played well enough to earn his spot and not be treated like a bouncy ball. Looks like Smith might have earned a spot in the bullpen, said only half jokingly. You can’t give up 20 runs to a bad team and expect to stay in the hunt for a wild card spot. They need to do something or just raise the white flag and start the sale.
john – I don’t think Tek would have been fazed managing in Boston, he doesn’t enjoy talking to any media but he knows what the Boston environment is like and he has a pretty good relationship with everyone.
I think his playing career would benefit him as manager, everyone would cut him some slack because he’s already earned everyone’s respect and appreciation.
Why is it Cora’s fault he doesn’t have depth at AAA? Some of the reason for sending guys like Booser down is to limit their innings. If you want your best pitchers late in the year, you need to limit their usage early. You are arguing against yourself.
Why not? Can’t handle a pitching staff and favors certain players over others. He’s no manager.
Why not
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Cora and his coaching staff seem to have gotten everything possible out of the team given to them this year and Cora and Breslow apparently think they can work together. So, I don’t see why not.
Yuck
Further proof that lying, cheating, and stealing is the best way to get ahead in this world.
Cora fits in perfectly in Boston.
This is the city that celebrates David Ortiz, Bill Bellicheat, Tom Brady, and Manny Ramirez.
Not Benedict Arnold ….
Halos, stop the crap. Every city has icons many of which have warts that get ignored. That said, I don’t know anyone who idolizes Manny today.
Nope, it is a proven fact that every Angel player is dedicated to “Truth, Justice and the American Way”
olm – How bad a guy could Arnold have been?
After all, they named a dish with eggs after him.
dewey – I think he’s embracing the LA/Boston rivalry a little too much.
Plus he’s probably not happy the Red Sox have steamrolled LA teams in 4 of the last 5 Red Sox WS runs.
Surprised he didn’t mention any Celtics.
I suppose that it’s hard to have a winning record when baseball is a side-gig to fighting crime in Metropolis.
Point a finger at Ortiz, who was never proven to cheat and yet your generation glorifies Barry Bonds.
Yeah, the guy who failed a test and led the league in slugging at age 40 isn’t comparable to Bonds at all.
Yes, the Roid Sox put out the Angels a ton. When your 3-4 hitters are juiced to the gills that happens.
The Celtics, at least to my knowledge, don’t have any controversies surrounding their titles. Nor the Bruins outside of racist fan behavior.
The Sox and Pats, however, had an unprecedented, parallel run of cheating there for a bit. That can’t be denied.
I look at 2016, possibly the greatest hitting season by a player 40 years old. Why isn’t that season celebrated like it should have been? Also, ownership changed the retired numbers rules that had only allowed HOF players to be so honored and I believe that is because they thought Papi could have been exposed for PED use and they could not then have honored him. why don’t they honor Evans and Tiant who also deserve the honor? Pedie is another.
There were many false positive tests in 2003 when Ortiz supposedly failed a test. Ortiz also asked to know details and they would not tell him.
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Incorrect Halos. You must mean the early 2k NYY were the infamous roid teams with 1/3 fully injected.
Lemme think also.. Certain huge 1b angels had was also wasn’t he? Far as Ortiz? Don’t recall him being ever officially busted, just nonsense never officially releasd, just from overhyped posters.
Biggest disgrace was giving GG, semi HOF Dewey’s number to Manny in 2000 and yeah.. Dewey deserves to be in HOF as much as few others enshrined of late. That guy could do everything and what an RF he was..
El Tiante.. The twist, twirl and would walk out of the clubhouse in Winter Haven dressed to the “9’s” in the fancy, usually white sports suits way back, smoking a huge cigar, always chattering away (always could barely hear) and nice a guy as could believe.
Win something onetime shut up
Halos – Is it fair to say Ortiz used as much as former Angel Pujols? Neither one ever failed a drug test after PED rules were implemented, but it’s reasonable to say they both could have used along with many, many other players. And we all know many Angels including Glaus, Donnelly, and Schoeneweis definitely used …. so are you cool with forfeiting the 2002 championship?
None of those players played for Cora though, so it’s really not relevant to this article.
And a pig on Green Acres.
Ortiz used his entire career which was supposedly “clean.”
The wild, wild, west days pre testing were an even playing field. Not an honorable one but even.
Guys who juiced 2003 on had a big advantage over their competition. Hence Manny and Papi being so dominant
And given Papi’s production increased as he aged while Pujols fell apart I highly doubt they are comparable.
Once again Halos.. 2003 nyy never win the ALCS without 1/3 team juiced up. Several here already pointed this out.
It was fairly common knowledge juice was wild, then names. Boston lost in 7g ’03 alcs, so let’s not play the go back for selective series when best players NY had.. Sheffield, Arod, giambi, petite, posada were juicers.
In short? Find another hand to play.
Roidtiz is the only one given the “false positive” bs on that entire list. He was using the same doctor as A Rod and nobody gives him a pass.
And, per Big Roidy, he was mailed his test results several times per year after that.
Cool. You only get notifications when you fail a test.
Rampant speculation pre testing. Yes, that Yanks team and others were certainly juiced.
Post testing was supposed to be a clean, level playing field. It clearly wasn’t.
Unless you have a positive test result for a particular substance, you have nothing but speculation. A reasonable, fair-minded person does not condemn another based solely on speculation.
Dwight Evans deserves his own day at Fenway while he’s still alive. I’m amazed that hasn’t happened in all these years.
halos – Maybe you missed it because he was back on the Cards at the time, but Albert’s Age 42 season he put up a .895 OPS which was his best since his Age 31 season. and far better than his his prior seasons with the Angels.
Ortiz, Ramirez, Pujols, Bautista, Encarnacion, Cano, Tatis Jr …. the list goes on and on. All close friends, all sluggers, all from the same country notorious for PED usage. If you want to deny there’s a reasonable chance they all used at some point, that’s your choice. I will remain firmly in reality.
I still love Manny….I’m in the minority but I want the players back on steroids
bum – Manny was the most entertaining Red Sox player in my lifetime, no question about it. I remember those glorious days like it was yesterday.
It still kills me how 2008 ended, if Manny had stayed the Sox surely would have won another championship. That’s no knock on Bay, it’s just Manny was phenomenal with the Dodgers that year.
Sox fans punching air right now
Sweet – Glad you mentioned punching!!
Exactly 20 years ago today, Tek & ARod sparked one of the greatest brawls in Yankees/Sox history.
Tanyon Sturtze walked away from it a bloody mess, after getting beaten by Kapler and almost getting choked to death by Trot Nixon. LOL
Awho? Oh that glove smacking, PED using cheater.
Funny Dewey. It’ll take years, maybe decades worth of polishing to put the shine back on that….
Rose has a better chance of eventually making the HOF than him.
UGH!!!! He sucks, rather have Varitek
Cleveland – Agreed, and if Cora does stay then Tek will likely walk after this season.
Red Sox Nation is hoping these negotiations end up the same way as nearly every Red Sox free agent player negotiation goes …. with nothing coming to fruition.
Let’s see what’s wrong with the picture: Reward a manager for finishing last three out of the last four years yet getting rid of the last two GMs one because he didn’t agree with your budgets and the other who followed your budgets. He pays the price but the manager gets an expensive extension? Henry will now count this extension in their overall payroll and not let CB II upgrade the roster without again first subtracting elsewhere.
Time to end the Alex Cora era.
… a Varitek & David Ross as manager & bench coach long shot slips away. I don’t get the Sox obsession with Cora.
Quite a few Red Sox fans here are not going to be happy with this news. This going to start a lot of conversation lol
And quite a few others will be. That’s the thing about Sox fans, there are strong and differing opinions across the board.
@KingKen, while I am one of the ones who are NOT happy, you are correct about the other side. Most replying on the Globe’s article are happy. By most, I mean almost all.
But then again, that group thinks Henry is doing well lol
Does someone really think Henry is doing well? I can see some feeling positive of Cora since they are playing above expectations, but can’t imagine any fan being happy with Henry. Even a headless roach would know we needed to add starting pitching (not just the one starter that nobody wanted and was out for the season before the daffodils started blooming). Granted all the hottest pitchers that were on the market are not exactly earning the ridiculous salaries they received.
@Dbh…John Henry owns the Globe, so…
You ever thought that maybe Henry knew the talent on the farm and he also knew that starting rotations were going to be ravaged by injuries? John Henry is usually the smartest man in any room he walks in and is the first to see things others don’t. That’s what made him a billionaire and given him the 3rd biggest sports empire on the planet. I think he actually deserves credit, the team made one blunder and that was trading Sale for Grissom.
bum – So much wrong with your post I don’t even know where to begin.
Henry made his fortune as a commodities trader.
Being an intelligent businessman doesn’t make you an intelligent MLB team owner (plenty of examples throughout MLB to prove it).
The extent of Henry’s involvement in player ops is establishing a budget and bringing in great BASEBALL minds such as Lucky, Dombrowski, and Bill James to name a few.
That “empire” was mostly the doing of Lucky, who was chiefly responsible for saving and improving Fenway and getting Henry to open his wallet.
Henry’s Marlins were an epic failure.
Henry has made many epic blunders with the Red Sox, notably forcing Dombrowski out and thinking Bloom would be an adequate replacement and forcing Mookie out and allowing Lester to be lowballed.
Henry foolishly thought in 2002 that the latest craze in MLB (Moneyball) was the way to go. He quickly realized how wrong he was, thanks to Lucky, which led to him approving the Red Sox rising to the top of MLB payrolls.
It’s disappointing that despite the many people here who have repeatedly provided great information about Red Sox history under Henry, you seem to have not learned anything from it.
acoss – Grain of salt until a contract extension is actually announced.
We can only hope it’s hype. As I recently posted, let Cora walk, mend fences if he’s recovered for just two years and bring back Tito to undo the bad things Tek has learned from Cora. If he can do the job, give that money to Tito.
It’s announced
as a Sox fan, please no!
Interesting, when so many felt he already had one foot out the door. Might not be my first choice, but for some reason Henry forgot to ask me.
tff – This quote from John Henry says it all:
“One of the great things about money is that it buys a lot of things. One of which is the luxury to disregard what baseball likes, doesn’t like. What baseball thinks, doesn’t think.”
When he says “baseball” he is referring to everyone, including fans and media.
You Red Sox fans are hot stuff lol… Cora is a top 3 manager in baseball
Get me some of whatever this clown is smoking! LOL
bucsfan0004…Thanks for telling us you know nothing about baseball.
Red Sox “Fans” at MLBTR want you to believe that Front Office Personnel from around the country, that would be glad to get Cora, are all wrong.
Best GMs in the world are at MLBTR/Red Sox. They call for Red Sox to sign Montgomery and Snell in January, but by midseason they are sure they wouldve signed Lugo and Imanaga. Too bad the rest of the baseball world doesn’t see their genius.
Yup, I was one of those in favor of Monty & Snell.
But I am also one of the few to admit it.
I was in favor of the Sale trade lol….Boy I admit that one hurts because honestly keeping everything the same and just adding Sale…I think we would have 6 more wins right now
KyleT – Just curious, You believe Cora is good? Is there any amount of money we could pay you to take him forever?
Also, why take a cheap shot about two players and their general sentiments. They aren’t supposed to be GMs, they are fans with opinions whether they are right or wrong. Are you being condescending because you think you know more than they do or are you just condescending as a personality trait?
Most people think the problem is with specific skills on the roster but they constantly look at the wrong ones. The two key areas that are broken are 3B and Manager. They are broken not from a talent standpoint they are broken because ownership has deemed them more important than winning. 3 more years of losing is on the table now that Cora has signed making whether the right pitcher gets signed meaningless. The boat has no rudder, no direction except to allow two people to destroy the franchise. One has no values or integrity and the other is completely myopic in his belief in what is important. He’s not a bright player and he certainly can NOT spell TEAM. If he did understand it, he would go back and apologize to all the pitchers who have failed because he can’t play defense.
So taking cheap shots because some of the writers on this website chose the wrong free agent is really insignificant. This team’s fate is sealed for the next 3 years and their payroll is destroyed for the next 9 years. That should be what matters to all Red Sox fans but many don’t have the same perspective. They prefer to play the what if game and argue about whose right. It’s like arguing about the design of a boat that can’t sail.
Kyle – Snell and Monty would have had fine seasons if they had a spring training.
But I agree about the Sox fans. As one myself, I know that we can be annoying, loud, and at times dumb. But some of the takes that I see polluting the comments sections in recent memory are insane. The people who think Cora is a bad manager (different than those that dislike him for the 2017 Houston stuff), for Devers to be traded, and the worst take im currently seeing is “let’s trade everything for Crochet!”
I know I want Sale back….He’s proving it just was dumb luck he kept getting hurt…now Grissom probably isn’t going to subplant Hamilton once back from injury.
kingbum
1) Arent all injuries dumb luck? Unless the person willfully did something to cause an injury, like punch a television.
2) Couldnt Grissom be having the same “dumb luck”? He still has 5 years to prove what he’s got. Any verdict on this trade right now is ridiculous.
You misspelled “Bottom 3”….
At the start of 2024 he was only here because of 2018 and 2021 (and the horrible 2020 season without him)
Now with the Red Sox over performing he’s getting rewarded
He only gives 1 good season then 2 mediocre seasons follow
He is the same he has always been, both good and bad. More talent in those seasons.
tff – Cora has repeatedly stated he was mentally and physically not in a good place last year.
And we all remember 2019 when he insisted on having a virtually non-existent ST and acknowledged not caring about winning in the early months of the regular season.
He has been very different this year. He’s not resting position players excessively. He’s allowing starters to pitch deeper in games. There’s other differences too.
Takes 3-5 years to really rebuild the farm system. I know Bloom sucked getting big league players but it looks like his farm system is bearing fruit
Duran….All-Star
Casas….Will be an All-star first healthy year
Hamilton….Fastest player on team, decent 2B
Abreu…Nice arm in right field, might get ROY
Raffela…+ value in CF and adequate SS, could get ROY
Crawford….career high in innings
There’s more that I’m not listing but Chaim really might have been just a few more years from turning Boston into Tampa or Baltimore
Some GMs have a knack for farm system success, bloom Mike Elias aj preller come to mind
Jed hoyer is kind of like bloom where he sucks at the big league talent but is good at getting that farm system up there
kingbum
Takes 3-5 years to really rebuild the farm system. I know Bloom sucked getting big league players but it looks like his farm system is bearing fruit
Duran….All-Star
Casas….Will be an All-star first healthy year
Hamilton….Fastest player on team, decent 2B
Abreu…Nice arm in right field, might get ROY
Raffela…+ value in CF and adequate SS, could get ROY
Crawford….career high in innings
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I don’t think Duran (2018), Rafaela (2017), Casas (2018) and Crawford (2017) are all down to Bloom since they were drafted and signed under Dombrowski.
Abreu and Hamilton came in a trade under Bloom in 2022.
Bloom’s only merit is that he did not trade such building blocks as Duran, Casas, Rafaela, Crawford, Bello, Houck.
But he cheats…
Marcel Ozuna from the Braves represented MLB in the home run derby.
AJ Hinch manages the Tigers.
Alex Cora is in discussions about being hired by the Red Sox a third time.
Trevor Bauer is excommunicated.
Make it make sense, please.
As long as you don’t express criticism about the league they don’t care if you beat or cheat. Their league is filled with those afraid to say their real opinions.
It’s sickening watching you Bauer fanbois.
Here let me explain it to you simply. (If I had sock puppets, I’d use them to help you understand.)
Major league Baseball absolutely HATES having to discipline players. Yet, in Bauer’s case, they took a look at the evidence and levied the LONGEST SUSPENSION EVER under the domestic policy. Longer even than convicted abusers.
What does that tell you?
Also, let’s not forget for even one second that Bauer offered zero contradictory evidence while under oath. So we have uncontroverted testimony, under oath, from the accuser and Bauer’s defense was NOTHING. When he had the chance to defend himself in a legal setting, they offered nothing.
What does that tell you?
Oh sure, he’ll rant on X, or YouTube, or FauxNews. And he went around filing baseless lawsuits which were all thrown out. But when he had his chance under oath he hid like the coward criminal he is. The fact that one of his accusers is also a liar has no bearing on the judgement of Bauer himself.
But sure–keep stumping for him. I’m sure he loves to watch you suckle.
Just mute the fanbois. Makes your life infinitely better and since we will never see Bauer in MLB again, problem solved.
Most defendants don’t take the stand in criminal proceedings. That’s not “telling” of anything at all.
He might be an idiot, certainly distracting, and possible not even well-liked, but he clearly won this case. There can be no doubt about it.
@JoeBrady, he might have clearly won that case, but he’s still an idiot, certainly distracting, and not even well-liked. There can be no doubt about it.
I have no issue with that. I’m not sure I’d want to be around him.
Just as long as he isn’t being blackballed for something he didn’t do.
Bauer is already 33. Nature will end his baseball career soon enough.
He’s never pitching in MLB again, no matter what the incels here say about him.
IMO, that is an immature response. There are certainly plenty of reasons to believe Bauer. But one simple questions.
There is a hypothetical $1,000,000 on the table, and you either get all of it, or none of it if you guess wrong.
1-Is she lying?
2-Is she telling the truth?
No room for partials, or rationales, or anything else. Which answer would you choose?
Bauer is never pitching in MLB again, Joe. It’s fact.
I know that consensual sex is hard to achieve, but get out there and do your best. Trevor Bauer couldn’t care less about you and you will never meet him. Get a life.
Bauer’s situation is about politics.
Bauer’s situation is about him being a reprehensible human.
You’re wasting your time talking to Bauer fools. You might as well find the nearest tree and talk to it. You would get farther.
So you’ll turn a blind eye to the biggest cheating scandal in a century?
You’re joking right? Cheating has been going on in baseball ever since the first baseball was thrown out. In the 60’s teams used to just hire guys FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE of stealing the other teams signs. Teams with CF scoreboards have been accused of stealing C’s signs for over a hundred years. Guys have been popping speed-60’s, Steroids-last 30 years and God knows what else to boost performance. And that one you think is the scandal of forever? You need to get a grip on yourself but I suspect you already do. LOL
Like it or not, Cora was on the 2007 WS winning Sox team, managed arguably the greatest Sox team ever in 2018, and has this version playing better than most people expected.
Yes, he’s cheated. we all know that. the Sox still re-hired him. There’s obviously something in the water that the upper brass likes, or Cora has something on them. whatever the case, the fact that talks are happening should come as little surprise.
smkelly – This could very well be another Red Sox ploy, expressing interest in someone but making an offer to them that will definitely be refused.
Let’s wait and see what happens.
BTW – No credit to the B’s for the impact they’ve had on the pitching staff?
Yes, he’s cheated. we all know that.
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Meh, we live in a world of holier-than-thou’s. He cheated, he got caught, he got punished, and now he is back.
I never think twice about any athlete that cheated and paid the price.
He took his punishment, one figures that should be enough. What do people want, for him to be permanently ineligible like Pete Rose?
There is likely not a single person in here that would want themselves permanently banned from something based on their previous transgressions.
Troy – YES. I want him deported but that’s because what he did hits former players harder than normal fans.
Joe – Cora got a slap on the wrist for the largest cheating scandal in baseball history. It completely invalidated the 2017 results since up to 90 games may have been impacted. That’s a heinous crime not similar to other sign stealing issues like when a coach looked in at the catcher’s signal or a base runner on 2nd base doing the same.
Lifetime ban with no second chances should have been the penalty based on the precedent set in 1919. That was 5 games of changing results not 90.
Cora is now on his third chance that we know of. Not having appropriate penalties for actions taken by a Manager or any person associated with the MLB is inappropriate.
Cherry picking which rules to enforce and not to enforce is politics in it’s ugliest form. The game is an embarrassment to years past. Allowing gambling after crucifying Rose for it is a joke.
Joe, to suggest Cora is an athlete is also a joke. He’s a scumbag cheater, that’s all.
They’re one out of a wildcard with the trade deadline days away. They shouldn’t have time to discuss anything anything but getting the team the pieces it needs for a push down the stretch. Cora can wait.
sneaky good team. if casas didn’t get hurt they’d be fighting for the division right now
LOL, Okay.
Yes, Casas is the reason they aren’t 20 games over .500 and in first place.
Casas is the reason they aren’t 20 games over .500
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1-dasit didn’t say they’d be in 1st, only that they’d be fighting for the division.
2-The RS are 6 games out, and obviously they’d be closer with Casas instead of Smith.
dasit – In that alternate universe where Casas doesn’t get hurt, safe to assume Cole & Stanton don’t get hurt either?
Bradish, Means and Bautista don’t get hurt either?
McClanahan, Rasmussen and Springs don’t get hurt either?
See how that works?
He cheated, and wasn’t punished beyond a one year dismissal.
Why is he still feted?
FO – Not even a year, it was a 60-game punishment. Absolutely ridiculous, especially considering Cora was the ringleader.
Please tell me I didn’t just read this! Cora is a big part of the dumpster fire that is the Red Sox. Should’ve kept Lovullo.
John Henry is one of the most woke owners in MLB. Had he not retained Cora, it wouldn’t have surprised me if he went after Gabe Kapler.
let – That is very true, John Henry is infatuated with Kapler.
In fact, the Red Sox had Kapler interview for Bloom’s job.
Can you believe it?
amazing how far unearned confidence can take a person
dasit – Well said. I’ve known my share of BS artists who have faked and lied their way to opportunities, unfortunately it’s the way of the world.
As long as the right person likes you, performance doesn’t matter.
I love this…troll free is gonna hate this when he pops in
I like Cora well enough, but not crazy about him.
But just the fact it’ll make KD’s head spin off into the cosmo is enough to make an extension worthwhile.
And just to make it more fun, if the RS make the playoffs, do you know who else lands a job this winter? Bloom. The RS will become the poster boy for a big-market rebuild.
Totally agree
So cheaters do prosper!
larkraxm
So cheaters do prosper!
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Cheaters get second chances. Do you have an issue with that?
Depends on the cheater and what they did, I suppose. I would not give a significant other a second chance to cheat on me. I would not have had a problem with Cora not getting a second chance to diminish the integrity of baseball if that answers your question.
Rosé cheated. He got a life time
Sox67;
He did not cheat, he broke a cardinal rule that had been on the books since the Black Sox sandal – no betting on baseball, no association with known gamblers. (i.e. giving them inside information)
He was the teams manager. Initially he lied about his actions.
No one else in that entire organization was involved.
Learn to evaluate situations based on the evidence. In short, grow up and develop a sense of perspective.
Samuel – That was a bit harsh considering the topics are different. Rose is guilty of doing what is now happening all the time without anyone tracking it. He gambled on baseball like millions are allowed to do with no structured policing of the activity.
How many games were impacted by Rose? Any? Was it proven like the Astros cheating or the Red Sox cheating? We all know Cora was guilty in both circumstances because of the recanting that was forced by the MLBPA and their actions. Cora deserved TWO lifetime bans for his actions. The Astros players deserved 50 game suspensions, The Astros and Red Sox deserved far greater fines and draft pick penalties but the Astros impacted up to 90 games and the Red Sox might have impact 1/10th of that many so the crimes do not have similar consequences when it comes to the standings..
Cora is an embarrassment to the game along with Beltran and Hinch. Rose was an embarrassment to the game despite all his records. Thus he belongs in the Hall of Fame but banned for specific events for life. Not recognizing his achievements is ridiculous. It should be all about how much he altered history like the 90 games in question with the Astros. Instead, someone created a cardinal rule that no longer exists or is policed and Rose paid a steep price. Was it deserved? Yes. Was the price comparable to the crime? No if Cora got a 60 games suspension wrapped in words that suggested a one season suspension, Rose impacted the game far less than Cora. It’s just that simple. The commissioner and the MLBPA distorted the significance of the Houston Astros actions and downplayed it. Houston has no rights to the 2017 title due to the level of distortion in the game results that year.
Cheating should be measured on an impact scale to results of the game. Some cheating is so severe no second chance should be provided. Five games in 1919 supported that idea. Nearly 100 years late 90 games was deemed insignificant. That’s a change in values that should not go unnoticed.
Every instance of cheating comes with some very key elements that should define the penalty and leniency.
1 – What scale of cheating happened? How many games impacted by the action?
2 – Was it premeditated or did it happen spontaneously in the moment?
3 – Is the person a first time offender or a habitual offender defined by more than one occurrence of the event.
4 – Did the person direct the activity, participate in the activity, have knowledge of the activity or were they forced to participate in the activity.
Take the parameters and you can see how absurd the MLB has behaved over the last 50 years.
1 – Spit balls, substance on the baseball and other advantages by players in games? What penalty is appropriate? What penalty was actually applied?
2 – Use of cocaine and other non-PED drugs that were against the law. What penalty was actually applied?
3 – Use of steroids during the high volume years of 1975 to 2004. Was the penalty necessary since there was no proof of impact on the stats based on HR trends during the nearly 30 years of rampant use?
4 – The juicing in the baseball by Selig in 1994 and the huge impact on HRs by the commissioner to grow the game after the 1994 strike? He got the HOF rather than being fired.
5 – Sign stealing in Houston where spotters were used to relay signals to inform hitters of the next pitch in up to 90 home games?
How did the guidelines for fair play get so screwed up after 1919 and the ban on players that cheated in 5 games? Players took steroids for 30 years but only got credit for it’s impact after the baseball got juiced! The use of illegal drugs and the second, third, fourth and even fifth or more chances that were given to players like Strawberry for habitual illegal drug use, was that fair? This a fine example of second chances not being justified because there was NO follow-up activity that prevented additional offenses which is exactly why Cora deserved no second chance let alone third chance!!
The MLB no longer stands for integrity. It no longer stands for fair evaluations of improper activities in the game. It now associates with Gambling the very thing Rose got punished for and lowlife managers can do pretty much whatever they want and fall on their swords beg forgiveness and get exonerated with insincere public apologies. They aren’t apologizing for cheating and embarrassing the game they are apologizing for getting caught. That’s the nature of a liar and cheat like Cora.
Who do you think will invest time in reading all that?
The SO is a little different since that it personal, and a fulltime job requiring trust. If you or one of your kids gets a DWI, are they banned from driving forever?
How do you keep all the passwords straight, Joe?
Maybe they should be. I wouldn’t have a problem if they were, if that answers your question. I don’t think Cora had too much to drink and had a momentary lapse of judgement. It was a premeditated, planned out and executed plan to break the rules in order to win. That is different to me than a 21-year-old making a bad decision one night after drinking.
I think the that the time served does not mean it never happened. But idiots like me haven’t forgotten that he was suspended for cheating (being one of the cheaters on a team of cheaters, if that makes you feel better). Should it be never mentioned again that he cheated and was suspended for cheating because he served a suspension for cheating?
Sooooo does this mean we’re buyers???
olm – Sox already down 3-0 right now.
Usually Pivetta is either excellent or awful, so not a good early sign.
Against the putrid Rockies. Sox season is over. Thus, reward Cora. smh
let – This is one of the most embarrassing performances of the season for the Red Sox. I said earlier Pivetta is usually fantastic or awful, but the defense today is inexcusable. Four errors already (the Rafaela play should have been one too).
Red Sox are very lucky Seattle suffered some key injuries just now, which likely means one less WC competitor.
20-5 in the 8th. The Rockies should go for the two-point conversion.
Fever Pitch Guy
Cora needs to stop experimenting with Rafaelа at shortstop.
Сedanne is the best defender at the club and his position is in the center.
If he had played the entire season at one position in center, he would already be a candidate for the Gold Glove.
News Cora is staying and the players are totally demoralized and give it up in Denver. 5-1 Rockies through 3.
8-1 now. Sox lost 4 of last 5 games prior to today and with today’s loss it will be 5 of last 6.
So when do you think the players started hearing rumors of a potential Cora extension? Over the All Star break?
How the Sox are doing against the Rockies today, or even in the series is irrelevant. This is baseball. It isn’t unusual for the best team in MLB to lose to the worst. Every team has peaks and valleys. If the best team is in a valley, while the worst team is at a peak, bad things happen to the better team. Plus the Rockies are a much better team at home than they are on the road.
The Rockies took 2 of 3 against the Guardians, swept the Rangers in 3, they’re 5 and 2 against the Padres. and went 2 – 1 against the Royals. Yet they were 1 – 2 against an even worse team in the WSox, and got swept by another bad team, the Marlins. You can’t read anything into the Sox performance against the Rockies.
Losing 5 of 6 since the ASB is relevant. Especially if that is when rumors of extending Cora hit the clubhouse. That is my point, not that they got crushed by the Rockies.
It’s not relevant. You’re ascribing causation to correlation. Every team has losing streaks. The Dodgers and Orioles each have had a 5 game losing streak. Had they made a move of some sort the day before, would that move have been the cause?
The Giants lost 4 of 5 following the AS break. What made them so unhappy that they dropped games to the lowly Jays? Maybe, like every other team in MLB, they just didn’t play well over a span of 5-6 days.
We don’t KNOW when they found out that RS were in talks with Cora over extension or if it is part of the cause of their profound slump.
YOU are ascribing negative causation.
Giants were already 3 games below .500 going into the break and have gone 2-5 since the break.
So beeeotch please.
Again, when they found out is completely irrelevant. Losing 5 of 6 games is so common through out baseball, that to try and connect it to the Cora extension is just plain silly.
Negative causation is much more probable than the outlier situation of the extension being the cause.
Also irrelevant is the Giants being 3 under below the break. That they were 3 games under shouldn’t mean they’d automatically lose 2 of 3 to a bad Rockies team.
It’s not too obvious why you totally ignored the losing streaks of the Orioles and Dodgers. And there’s more than those 2. The Padres lost 6 of 7. The Braves lost 6 of 7. And the Guardians lost 7 of 9. These are teams with the best records in MLB. I could go on but got tired of looking. So it’s completely moronic to ascribe the extension as the cause for a similar losing streak by better teams.
Hard for the Cubs to justify paying Craig Counsell what they are
FGH- Even harder for Hoyer to justify giving Counsell that money and then giving him no Closer and the worst bench in the history of baseball.
He should have been banned from baseball.
Hilarious to read all of the negative responses to this news. Have Red Sox fans EVER liked a manager??? Now the call is for Tek to become the next manager…..imagine it will take less than half a season before he will be the worst manager in Sox history within this comments section!
Tito!
Everyone loved Tito (but generally not so much after he was hired, but winning cures everything) last manager i can remember fans being somewhat happy about when he was hired was Kevin Kennedy, so it’s been a while…
Have Red Sox fans EVER liked a manager???
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RS fans are among the stupidest fans in sports. Not all of them, but some of them shouldn’t be allowed out of their basement without guidance.
Some of them hated both Theo & Tito, despite winning 95 every year. Some of the actually preferred Valentine over Tito.
I remember the WTF? Moment when it was announced the Sox had hired Bobby V. And all i could think of is “this is going to be bad” and it was. Then they fired him and Bought Farrell from Toronto and won the World Series again
I remember when the preliminary RS lineup was posted in a game against Hendricks. It started every one of our righties. I remember posting that I thought Valentine had confused Hendriks (R) with Hendrickson (L). Sure enough, he changed it later that afternoon.
And still, some RS fans defended him.
azc – We liked Tito until he had his personal issues.
We liked Farrell a lot.
We liked Kennedy.
We liked Morgan.
wasn’t he a coach on a certain staff that fans boo? why the double standard?
I love this extension. Go ahead Sox, sign him for another ten years! Give him as much money as you can stuff in a trashcan. Love it.
You are a Yankees fan I take it.
I would hope not. At least Cora sports a ring, which is more than can be said for Boone. And Boone would have been fired several times already if George was still alive
Boonie is the new Billy
I feel so sorry for Red Sox fans. My condolences.
Why..aside from the several dozen people commenting here you can easily find plenty of people in baseball who think hes one of the best managers in the game
I can find more that think he is to blame for the team finishing in last place 3 of the last 4 years.
I lost track of all the rings the Pads have won.
Maybe he should start kicking the trash can to help the team win more games.
But you have to appreciate the sympathy from a SDP fan. Maybe “condolences” has a meaning I am unfamiliar with.
I’m happy. Sorry that’s not how everyone else feels.
I think it is a good move too.
Not everyone — just the usual TROLLS who make many overly long winded posts in an attempt to end any intelligent discussion.
Kyredsox17 – No need to apologize for being happy. If you like cheaters you are entitled to say so!! Just don’t expect many to agree with you.
I’m not sure how i feel about this. Championship in year one, last place the following year, the 2020 suspension, ALCS in his comeback year, back-to-back last place finishes and playing above expectations in what was a contract year. The pattern here is when his job is dependent on results the team wins and when the heat is off they do very poorly. I guess good for Alex, and maybe good for the Sox?
Rsox – Playing above expectations? It’s hard for me to believe that when you consider they are now 54-47 despite one of the easiest schedules in MLB. Let’s see how they do during the difficult 28-game stretch that begins tomorrow.
Remember, a year ago they were also 54-47 and they finished the season with just 78 wins.
Gotta factor in the schedule,and whether they are buyers or sellers.
Baseball America had the Sox ranked 23rd in their preseason Power rankings. Fangraphs projected them to finish the season only 8 games over .500. MLB.com ranked them at 22nd in their power rankings. Yes, the Red Sox have played above expectations this season.
Jean – It’s July and the season is nowhere near over and the tough part of the schedule is ahead. To suggest they will finish with a a winning percentage over .500 is absurd considering their strength of schedule remaining.
Typical of recent seasons, they usually have a better than expected first half and worse than expected second half. I see not reason to expect anything different, especially since they retained the worst manager in baseball.
Trollfree, They do have a fairly tough schedule. Their SOS is rated the 9th toughest in MLB, and 4th toughest in the AL.
They have 20 games against the WSox, Jays, Tigers, and Rangers. So far they’re 8-5 against those teams.
They have 29 games against the O’s, Yankees, Twins, Royals, Mets, and Astros. So far they’re 8 and 10 against those teams.
Considering their performance so far against their remaining opponents, and currently at 7 games over .500, I think it’s a huge assumption that they’ll play 8 games under .500 for the rest of the season.
My point though was that they have exceeded expectations. Their preseason playoff odds were 17%. Currently Fangraphs has their playoff odds at 36.7%. By all accounts they have exceeded expectations.
Jean – I understand your point that if things go like they have in the first half against some of these teams they should be fine. Looking at 2020 to 2023 the tail of the two halves don’t match up. An example is the Rangers. They have strong second halves and had 5 of their SPs injured earlier in the season. They have gotten some back and guys like deGrom returning soon. They are on a recent winning streak so the previous results might not predict the future results with them.
In the preseason I rate each opponent as bad, average or good. They are 17-20 vs good, 15-18 vs average and 22-9 vs bad. In Aug and Sep they play good teams 39 of their 80 games, they play average teams 9 of their 48 times and they play bad teams 6 of their 34 times. That’s a very very disproportionate total. If they have a losing record in the last two months against good and average teams like they did so far the would lose at least 27 games if they maintained their current numbers. Against the bad teams they would lose just 1 or 2 games. So lets say 28 more losses if they do as well as their upcoming opponents as they did up to now. That would have them at 87-75. That probably doesn’t make the playoffs. So best case scenario 87 wins. The model predicts 10 less wins (77) based on strength of schedule of remaining games. I think it’s safe to say they will fall somewhere between those two numbers 77 and 87.
Based on the weighted model I built, they are currently 11 games above expectations at this point as they entered the tough part of their schedule. Clearly they have exceeded expectations and I credit most of it to the new pitching and hitting coaches and the Dombrowski draft picks finally being validated for their high level of talent. Duran, Houck, Crawford, Rafaela, Abreu, Bello and others have all started coming into their own as potential all-stars.
Boston can build on that despite Cora making his daily line-up mistakes. The most obvious one is that you don’t bat the guy with the 4th most HRs, 2nd Most RBIs, 2nd most triples, 4th most doubles, 4th most runs scored and 3rd most SBs in the 9th spot in the batting order or sometimes the 8th. They belong in the top 4 because he is a top 4 hitter on the team who could so much more if he hit in the heart of the order not the bottom of the order. Just one daily example of why Cora hurts the team daily and now for the next 3 years.
If Boston under Bloom didn’t have annual Aug/Sep swoons I think I could be optimistic and agree with you. But the new scheduled devastated Boston in 2023 during Aug and Sep and it looks like more of the same unless something changes at the deadline or people get back from injuries earlier than expect. They just got beat up by LAD and COL on the road. They have been very fortunate the last two years to catch the Yankees when they are swooning so the home series coming up is a good leading indicator of which future is in store for Boston in Aug and Sep.
Based on Texas, Houston, KC and ARI all being hot right now, they need them to cool off while they get hot. Seattle, NYY, BAL and DET are somewhat floundering right now so they do have a shot of improving their record if they get hot. The NYM have been very hot so they went from a beatable team to a team they should hope not to be swept by.
Remember 27 of their 52 AL East games still remain. Beating up TOR seems likely. TB is hot now unlike when they faced them earlier. NY is cold now so they could play above .500 against them. BAL has hit a short slump due to playing very good opponents. Since TOR and BOS and possibly the NYY are weak right now, BAL should coast to the division title and continue beating up on BOS.
The one thing about the 2024 team is that they are unpredictable. They win games they shouldn’t and they lose games they shouldn’t. Winning 17 of 37 against good team is very unexpected as is winning just 15 of 33 against average teams. They are great vs bad teams unlike last year. Their 22 of 31 is excellent. Too bad only 6 games are schedules vs bad teams the remainder of the year and KC was one of the bad teams based on the pre-season evaluations. They are hot and Bobby Witt could win a MVP if he stays hot like he is now so there are many good and average teams that I think aren’t as good as KC.
Just a FYI…. the fan graphs numbers aren’t based on anything more knowledgeable than your own opinion. With BAL and CLE locked in to Division Titles and HOU or TEX likely to win the West and the other making a WC spot, there are really only two WC spots available with MIN, NYY, KC, SEA, TB and BOS vying for the two spots while holding one of the most difficult schedules. The 37% by FanGraphs is generous.
Also, the playing of the remainder of the schedule under .500 by 8 games is not influenced by historical events. It’s set by the strength of schedule and more closely represents the skills of the teams than the luck accumulated during the first half of the season. If you want to use historical data go back since Bloom showed up and count the collapses in the second half. Signing Cora helps confirm that pattern will continue.
Trollfree,
“playing of the remainder of the schedule under .500 by 8 games is…set by the strength of schedule and more closely represents the skills of the teams than…luck”
Which is why I posted how well the Sox have performed against those teams on their schedule. Plus you’re assuming other teams will not slump, and that the Red Sox have been lucky. Boston has a + 29 run differential. That suggests their record isn’t just luck.
“TB is hot now unlike when they faced them earlier.”
TB has a -67 run differential. With their .500 record that suggests they’re the ones who have been lucky. Plus, it’s likely they’ll be sellers, and the team that Boston faces maybe reduced
I also think that the Rangers are going to have a difficult time making the PS. They currently sit 5 1/2 games out of a WC berth with 4 teams between them and the last spot. They have a +8 run differential, but they beat a horrible WSox team last night by 8 runs. That doesn’t inspire confidence. They have guys coming back from the IL, but most guys need a little time to get back to game speed. It may not be enough.
I think the Royals might nab that last WC spot leaving the Red Sox shy of the playoffs, But I still believe they have exceeded expectations and will not finish below .500.
Trollfree
The model predicts 10 less wins (77) based on strength of schedule of remaining games. I think it’s safe to say they will fall somewhere between those two numbers 77 and 87.
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At the beginning of the season, you predicted 67 wins for the Red Sox.
Abreu and Valdez came in exchange for Vazquez during the Bloom period in 2022.
Abreu isn’t from Dombrowski’s draft.
Red Sox started the year with a 79.5 win O/U. Right now that is an 84.5 win O/U. They are playing about 5 games above what was expected at the beginning of the season.
Jean – The Red Sox run differential doesn’t mean squat because there’s so many factors impacting it, especially strength of schedule. If they have a negative run differential by the end of August, your theory goes up in smoke.
BTW – The Reds have a +39 run differential, does that mean at 49-53 they are a much better team than the Red Sox? Sure seems like that is what you are implying.
Fever Pitch,
“If they have a negative run differential by the end of August, your theory goes up in smoke.”
I don’t have a crystal ball, and I’ll be the first to admit I could be wrong. This is baseball after all.
In general I agree that run differential can be misleading. But I don’t believe that it’s totally useless. You’re right that it’s influenced by several factors, but despite outliers, like the Reds, it does correspond to the quality of the team and where they are in the standings.
The teams with the best run differential in each division also lead every division except one, the ALE.
The top 3 teams in every division, except one all have positive run differentials. The NLC is the only exception. The Reds and Cards play in that division, and both are clear outliers. Both, playing more intra-division games probably have had an odd impact on that division.
Run differentials can’t be completely ignored simply because one second place team has a better run differential than the first place team. Or, because two outlier teams out of 30, have reverse run differentials compared to their record, or position in the standings
I can’t quit you!
Brokesox Mountain.
Am I the only Red Sox fan pleased with this news?
Not at all. I’m not one of the fans that think he is a great manager, but I think he’s done okay.
Otto – You’re probably among the 20% of Red Sox Nation that is pleased.
If the contract is finalized, at least it’s only for 3 years.
Well below Counsell’s 5-year $40M contract which many “experts” had predicted Cora would match or beat.
I’m happy with the news. The chaos of trusting this ownership group to hire a replacement for Cora would be infinitely worse. He at least might keep them (sort of) honest.
Carmina – Seriously, who is keeping anyone honest with Cora around. His specialty is cheating and lying.
Kind of expected a negative feedback on this news. Not sure I understand it but OK. The whole cheating thing has been overblown for years now. Breslow is a new GM so I get why he wants an experienced manager. It makes sense.
So we resign the manager, the plan had better be to get him some players.
Yikes!!! Took nap only down 3-0 !! Wake up 19-3!!! Kindergarten teacher was right… anytime is a good time for a nap!!!!
I hate missing sleep for bad games. Like staying up until 12:30 only to see them blow it in the 9th.
I have my issues with Cora but he’s one of the better managers in baseball right now. He’s
Cora gives the Red Sox legitimacy. He’s a top tier MLB manager right now – if they let him walk, they’re basically saying to their fans that they don’t care. They’ve said that a million other ways recently, but they know if they let Cora walk that would be a really bad look.
They also have a great pitching coach, but without Cora this team would have no stability going forward. Keeping Cora at least gives them that.
I have no idea what other supposed Red Sox fans on this site are talking about when they’re so critical of Cora. Look at the garbage he’s had to work with this season. Breslow did nothing last offseason and Cora has this mess on the doorstep of the playoffs. He’s a good manager and it’s silly to argue otherwise after this season.
He’s an embarrassment to all former players!!!! He dishonored the game that made him all his money. He’s a scumbag.
@Carmina I don’t think it’s Cora that got them to where they’re at this season, I think it’s due more to the performances of Duran, O’Neill, Devers, Houck and the expertise of the new pitching coach.
It’s the players and Cora and his coaches. That’s why they are where they are, for better or worse. It’s all of them.
Giving players and only one coach all the credit is childish. Grow up.
How this dude was the ringleader of the Astros sign stealing scheme and didnt get a lifetime ban is nuts. Why any team would be willing to sign this guy makes no sense. Coras only regret is that he got caught.
Cry harder.
100% true, him and Beltran should have a lifetime ban for coming up with that whole thing.
Rocker49 – Deportation should have been part of his sentence. Sports were supposed to be a sacred component of society, ignoring the greatest baseball cheating event of all time is sacrilegious. The commissioner is a figurehead since there was a precedent for this type of crime. All former commissioners all rolled over in their graves over this travesty of justice. Then they rolled again when it was announced baseball would partner with the gambling world so the industry can have more money and redirect huge profits to the gambling industry. The entire industry is trending down faster than the White Sox. .
Considering that Alex Cora is an American citizen, calling for his deportation seems a bit racist.
“Sacred, the power, being, or realm understood by religious persons to be at the core of existence and to have a transformative effect on their lives”. Who told you sports were supposed to be a sacred part of society? Baseball is a game. A few people play it. Many watch it. Thats pretty much it. If you’ve ever been to Cooperstown you’ll see that the hall of fame is more about the history of the marketing of the game than anything else. Its a wonderful game but there is nothing sacred about it
On the day Cora signs his extension the Broncos beat the Patriots 20-7
Banging those trashcans and cheating really paid off for Cora!
so all the bull about his next move to be Yankee manager was just pandering to getting a new deal from the Sox…….really!
He’s not the one who spread the Yankee talk
Dissappointed?
Red Sox Nation must now face the fact that the owner’s psychotic break in 2019 has not been repaired.
Does he still have photos that he holds over Henry’s head? Apparently so.
The fan base just got a 3 year sentence to losing, bad managing and lies from the manager to the press and fan base. There is no excuse for this happening. The value of the franchise just dropped 50%!!! Why? Because it didn’t resolve it’s integrity issues. They are pathetic for doing this.
TF. ..fwiw according to Forbes the red sox were valued at 2.8 Billion in 2018 when they initially brought Cora on board in 2023 and 2024 that value is 4.5 Billion dollars i think John Henry and other investors are just fine with all the moves that have taken plave since 2018..that an incedible ROI ..what you call pathetic has them laughing all the way to the bank..so..yea the franchise value is safe.
Missing the playoffs 4 of the last 5 yrs
Is the collapse coming this year? Just lost 2 of 3 and gave up 20 runs in the last game to a terrible Rockies team. Starters and relievers have looked terrible. A couple of relievers look like DFA material.
Currently 1.5 games behind in the wild card race.
If they stand pat they will collapse, they need a starter that goes 6+ every start. He doesn’t need to be perfect we can score, he just has to keep us in the game.
OK
They need to officially sell and build for 2025. They’ve been in this position the past two years and folded. I say sell, get back prospects, and prepare for 2025. 2024 is no given.
I think that sends the wrong message to this very young core..they need to throw this group a bone..not push all in but at least make an effort it will benefit them alot in the minds of these young men as well as let any possible free agents know this team is playing to win and perhaps avoid some embarrassment similar to the montgomery situation last winter
This pitching staff is regressing to the mean hard. Given injuries though I can’t blame this on Cora. Breslow needs to find some innings eaters and fast….
Not a Cora fan and I wish they would have used the time spent on this on an acquisition. My biggest fear is that nothing has changed in Boston except for the name on the “Chief Baseball Officer” office door and the deadline is going to leave little to like for the team and the fans. Again…….
dajuba – So true. The scary part is that people said Breslow was not allowed to fire Cora but that he didn’t want him. The new signing by the GM seems to contradict that idea. Breslow apparently just had a few good coaches he could bring to the organization but no managers. That’s both sad and pathetic.
Breslow now sucks and he completely offset all the goodwill of bringing some excellent coaches to Boston.
Not at all. If only we knew what goes on behind doors in the front office eh
No way shape or form should he be coaching any major sport. Let alone the Sox.
There is something amiss that he’s still being paid all while Rose isn’t the Hall
Say what you want,he’s beyond what Rose done by cheating for a ring.
Further to that. He showed no respect for the game what so ever. So why should I show any for him. He’s a disgrace to the game
Good. Alternatives are not convincing. Not sure Varitek speaks.
Outstanding news!!
I’m a Cora supporter, but even I thought it was time to move and and hand the reigns to Varitek.
It’s possible they think Varitek is 3 years away.
Not when SF Giants interviewed him last year
A three-year extension for Alex Cora? Sound the trash cans.
As a Cora fan, I’m really kind of disappointed by this move. I like Alex Cora but I don’t like the results of last year and this year feels exactly the same. We need to apply accountability.
Cora would be a great asset on any team but I feel his time is done here and Varitek is in the wings. I think it’s time to give him a chance to see if we can make more out of talent we have.
I think Cora is the best manager if we get to the postseason, hands down. But the problem is he hasn’t gotten us there in 3 years and we are following almost an identical path this year as in 22 and 23.
Dude, his time isn’t done with the Red Sox. They just re-upped him for 3 years. Cora’s not going anywhere.
Varitek can get a job somewhere else if he doesn’t like it. And I would wish him well if he chooses to do that.
I know he’s still here. My post was in response to that. I’m on the fence.
Well, the Red Sox have the building blocks for 2025 – Devers, Duran, Rafaela, Houck, Crawford, add an ace to the starting rotation, 2 lefty/righty relievers instead of Martin and Jansen, move Whitlock to the bullpen, re-sign O’Neill, make Abreu the headliner in a deal for another starting pitcher while his value is high, with Anthony, Teel, Mayer, Yorke on the way, this team could compete with Baltimore and the Yankees to win the division in 2025.
SP 2025
1 – FA
2 – Houck
3 – Crawford
4 – change
5 – Bello
6 – Giolito
7 – Criswell
8 – Fitts
2025
1.Duran LF
2.O’Neill / Anthony RF mid 2025
3.Devers 3B
4.Casas 1B
5. Yorke/Grissom 2B
6. Yoshida DH
7. Story / Mayer SS mid 2025
8. Wong / Teel C mid 2025
9. Rafaela CF
very sexual lineup
I forgot to note that Yorkе and Lugo purposefully play in the outfield so that there is no congestion at second base.
And they’re right-handed, which is important for the left-skewed Red Sox lineup considering their top prospects are left-handed (Anthony, Mayer, Teel).
I might get crushed for this one but I don’t understand how tying how much cheating he did to his punishment. He cheated. Whether one game or 90 he cheated. Because no one caught them for 89 games means he deserves more punishment? I don’t agree with that he knew he was cheating day one getting away with it 89 more times doesn’t worsen it. That was the idea was to get away with it just like every other post of every other cheating scandal I’ve read. If they caught him after a week did he “cheat less”? No he cheated the same for a shorter time.
Alex Rodriguez cheated too, a lot. He’s worked for TV since for many years. He’s frequently mentioned as trying to be involved with ownership groups of teams. He’s involved with the Miami Boys & Girls Club. My point? I don’t like ARod, but his life went on, he’s doing something with it.
A lot of people here just want players and managers banned for life. It’s an idiotic, simplistic viewpoint. It’s something dolts parrot when others dolts say it. Life doesn’t work that way. It goes on. It’s complicated. Try to keep up.