The starting lineups for the 94th All-Star Game were revealed earlier this week, and the league now announced the rest of the National League and American League rosters for the upcoming Midsummer Classic on July 16 in Arlington. Each roster is comprised of 32 players — the nine starting position players determined by fan voting, and then 23 pitchers and backup position players selected by both a player ballot and input from the Commissioner’s office.
Specifically, the league’s share of the reserve picks will help adhere to the stipulation that every team must have at least one All-Star rep. This rule could also be observed via substitutions that will inevitably be named to the rosters in the coming days, as some players won’t participate in the All-Star Game due to injury or personal choice. The starting pitchers for the ASG won’t be announced until July 15, with those decisions made by each team’s manager (Diamondbacks skipper Torey Lovullo for the National League, and the Rangers’ Bruce Bochy for the American League).
The Phillies own baseball’s best record, so it isn’t surprising that they led the field with seven players named to the NL team. The Dodgers had six players named to the NL squad, while the Guardians and Padres each had five players receive All-Star nods. Thirty-two of the players selected are first-time All-Stars, and four are rookies to MLB altogether — Shota Imanaga, Mason Miller, Jackson Merrill, and Paul Skenes.
National League
- Catcher: William Contreras, Brewers
- First base: Bryce Harper, Phillies
- Second base: Ketel Marte, Diamondbacks
- Third base: Alec Bohm, Phillies
- Shortstop: Trea Turner, Phillies
- Outfield: Christian Yelich, Brewers
- Outfield: Jurickson Profar, Padres
- Outfield: Fernando Tatis Jr., Padres
- Designated hitter: Shohei Ohtani, Dodgers
- Pitchers: Tyler Glasnow/Dodgers, Ryan Helsley/Cardinals, Jeff Hoffman/Phillies, Shota Imanaga/Cubs, Reynaldo Lopez/Braves, Chris Sale/Braves, Tanner Scott/Marlins, Paul Skenes/Pirates, Matt Strahm/Phillies, Ranger Suarez/Phillies, Robert Suarez/Padres, Logan Webb/Giants, Zack Wheeler/Phillies
- Backup position players: CJ Abrams/Nationals, Pete Alonso/Mets, Luis Arraez/Padres, Mookie Betts/Dodgers, Elly De La Cruz/Reds, Freddie Freeman/Dodgers, Teoscar Hernandez/Dodgers, Ryan McMahon/Rockies, Jackson Merrill/Padres, Marcell Ozuna/Braves, Heliot Ramos/Giants, Bryan Reynolds/Pirates, Will Smith/Dodgers
American League
- Catcher: Adley Rutschman, Orioles
- First base: Vladimir Guerrero Jr., Blue Jays
- Second base: Jose Altuve, Astros
- Third base: José Ramírez, Guardians
- Shortstop: Gunnar Henderson, Orioles
- Outfield: Aaron Judge, Yankees
- Outfield: Juan Soto, Yankees
- Outfield: Steven Kwan, Guardians
- Designated hitter: Yordan Alvarez, Astros
- Pitchers: Tyler Anderson/Angels, Corbin Burnes/Orioles, Emmanuel Clase/Guardians, Garrett Crochet/White Sox, Logan Gilbert/Mariners, Clay Holmes/Yankees, Tanner Houck/Red Sox, Seth Lugo/Royals, Mason Miller/Athletics, Cole Ragans/Royals, Tarik Skubal/Tigers, Kirby Yates/Rangers
- Backup position players: Carlos Correa/Twins, Rafael Devers/Red Sox, Jarren Duran/Red Sox, David Fry/Guardians, Riley Greene/Tigers, Josh Naylor/Guardians, Isaac Paredes/Rays, Salvador Perez/Royals, Marcus Semien/Rangers, Kyle Tucker/Astros, Bobby Witt Jr./Royals
Pete over Lindor and Nimmois criminal all about the derby.
You dont need to be on the all star rostor to compete in the home run derby..so thats not it
He said he’d only be in the derby if he was an all-star
Brutal choice of Alonso.
“Brutal choice of Alonso”…It doesn’t hurt when your insider sports agent literally runs the labor side(MLBPA) of MLB.
@MLB FAN Yeah Boras literally has zero position with MLBPA.
I know most of your comments are politically motivated as you clearly are a political zealots that has an enormous void of anything pleasurable in your life. I have to think there is more, you must ve hit on Boras and he turned down your overtures. That’s the only thing that could explain this freak obsession you have towards him….
Yikes, the deflection here is hilarious, he was clearly spot on with his profile of you man.
Tigers3232;
Ahhh……
So your ID showed up here to straighten out everyone you disagree with on this board – as you contradict yourself constantly.
Feel better?
Gads. Guess I now have upwards of 100 ID’s (many people take out multiple ones) of trolls on my Mute List. Your latest one quickly become one of the most deserving. Didn’t even notice the Tigers3232 handle 3 days ago.
Whew!
Looks like you’re had lots of practice.
Are you running for office? Do you hold one? You surely know very little about baseball. Your posts are hilarious.
Am looking forward to Muting your next handle.
Everyone should.
“politically motivated”
Just curious, what is the political angle in this dispute?
6th in baseball in extra base hits. How is that brutal?
I’m not sure you know what the word criminal means. There is a lot less competition at 1b then SS and Of is why Alonso chosen. None of them are actually deserving
No, Christian Walker deserved the spot way more than Alonso or Freeman or Arrez
No one pays money to see walker other than d back fans
Mookie is clearly not playing i think Lindor is his replacement!
De La Cruz was his replacement
Winn, is a better player and is having a better year.
Lindor stopped being an all star years ago. Still a nice player but clearly no longer a star.
What a ridiculous statement. Lindor is still playing at a hall of fame level, let alone an all star level.
Lindor is hitting .244 with a .310 OBP. Was at .195 end of May. How is that Hall of Fame???
@Doug: He’s 7th in the NL in fWAR. “Was at .195 end of May”, well get a calendar, buddy, because it’s JULY right now. He’s been on fire for a month plus, and even got the game-winning hit today. Get a clue!
3.5 WAR through 88 games, that’s a 6.4 average over 162 games and that is Hall of Fame worthy.
“Was at .195 end of May”. First off, who cares. Second, he had a .198 BAbip in May which is 100 points below league average.
Lindor is still a top 20 player in all of baseball. Only 2 better SS in the NL
Mookie Betts, Trea Turner, Jeremy Pena, Elly DeLaCruz, CJ Abrams, Masyn Wynn, Brice Turang and probably more beg to differ.
Winn is better
lol, Pena? Wynn, Turang?
Randy wynn?
Pena is in the AL. Turang isnt playing SS since adames is playing at an all star level. Neither wynn nor Abrams are in the same realm offensively as lindor. At least not yet. Betts will be at 2b or RF next year, so turner and de la Cruz are the only real arguments for better than lindor.
They can beg to differ all they want but the fact is the only shortstop in the NL with a higher WAR is De La Cruz.
Trespada
What position Betts will play next year has no bearing on if he’s a better SS this year.
Agree that Lindor is being underrated here
Your right. In all honesty I forgot trea turner existed when I first responded haha.
Mookie Betts is a horrible shortstop.
Mets
Was leading all MLB SS’s in WAR when he was injured
He still can’t field the position worth a crap. Could care less what numbers say. He’s not a shortstop.
@In nurse follars: “Lindor stopped being an all star years ago”
He had 6.0 WAR last year and 5.6 the year before. You don’t have any idea what you’re talking about.
Yes putting up a 6 war almost every year is not all star caliber. He should be ashamed.
Mets fan here. I love Pete, but he has been rather pedestrian this year. Nimmo or Lindor are each much more deserving.
David – Players do NOT need to be named to the All-Star team in order to participate in the Homerun Derby.
Luis Gil got fleeced
Looking at his stats he was amazing in May..he had average 4 era in april and was lit up in june/july ..one great month vs looking like demotion candidate doesnt look fleeced
He’s giving up 57 hits in 96 IP. I don’t think he’s a demotion candidate.
Jack Flaherty has an argument too.
Yeah but Riley Greene made it! I’m happy with that!
Definitely, but he is an ex-Card, so no chance. No Sonny Gray, and especially no Masyn Winn is disgrace. But that is okay, once Nootbar, Edman, and Herrera return the Cards will soar. Many trade pieces to bolster their pitching. Be careful the Redbirds are real!!!
Do the Cardinals trade Carlson and Herrera and a prospect , for Bassit or Scherzer?
Yeah, Max can come home, but he needs to prove he is healthy.
What? Gil did not get fleeced. He doesn’t deserve to be an all star with how he has pitched lately.
It’s best to look at the whole picture. He had a rough last few starts, but Gil was astounding earlier in the season. They were talking Cy Young then (of course it was early). Coming from a Sox fan, he was easily snubbed, as he’s been more effective than not and his stats are still great.
If you actually look at the whole picture you may realize he wasnt snubbed at all..and isnt all star worthy
How so?
Gil has a 1.9 WAR, 3.86 FIP, strikeout per 9 at 10, which is phenomenal.
Maybe compared to others he isn’t as good, but he was solid overall. I would give him the nod based on his stats. The only thing holding him is competition of the other players.
Tyler Anderson made it with a 4.53 FIP, though he surprisingly has over 4 WAR. Case in point.
Yea but Anderson is the lone angels rep
Again, I said Gil was worthy of All Star. Other factors can impact that but certainly he got snubbed if a “lone rep” takes his spot. He’s still deserving of having a chance there.
After looking at the stats, I’d argue most of the pitchers (arguably aside from Anderson) have performed better than Gil, but that’s not to say that Gil hasn’t made a valiant effort and could’ve been considered to get in based on his pitching.
I could easily argue Grayson Rodriguez is equally worthy, if not more. While Gil got off to a hot start Rodriguez has logged more quality starts than Gil in fewer chances (9 QS in 16 GS vs. 8 QS in 18 GS). Their ERAs were extremely close going into today’s action when selections were already completed (Gil 3.41 vs. Rodriguez 3.45). It should also be noted that Rodriguez’ team has a better record overall and head-to-head against Gil’s team.
@Chaim Anderson made it because he is the lone representative of the Angels. If you have to point at him to make a case for Gil that only further solidifies why Gil is not on All Star roster.
Fair enough. Looking at the stats, I see why everyone has performed better than Gil and deservedly so should have made it.
That being said, Gil has been amazing this season and if it weren’t for those doing better stats-wise, I’d say Gil has good enough stats to get in.
He really had two bad starts that derailed his numbers. I wouldnt be surprised if Gil does better than them by the end of the season. There’s always next year.
@Chaim, if Gil fills a spot for someone whose injured I’d say he’s deserving. Just a lot of good pitching in MLB this season so there are some out there deserving who currently are left out.
Agree.
Said like a Kansas City fan (okay, that’s just a cruel joke on my part, I’m sure you’re a knowledgeable fan)
Gil did bad for two or three starts and has been fantastic the rest.
The teams he struggled against are the Orioles, Mets, Brewers…
By season’s end, I think Gil could be better than Cole Ragans.
Im not sure what you’re watching or where you get your stats.. but Gil in literally the last 28 days.
5 games started. 1-4(yeah yeah I know wins n losses don’t matter but it’s semi relevant) 21 innings pitched and a SEVEN.5 era 14 walks to 21ks..
Line2line
If you know win loss doesn’t matter how can you say it’s semirelevant? It’s not.
All that matters is how well he’s pitching
ERA is a poor measure of that.
Walks and strike outs are the only relevant thing you’ve mentioned.
He pitched pretty well last night. His losses were against mostly good teams
ERA is very relevant. I don’t know what sabermetric world you think we live in but ERA still very much matters to everyone. It’s a pitchers job to prevent runs.
Mets
No. It doesn’t
You’re like a decade behind
Teams prevent runs, not pitchers
LOL, so a decade ago teams started preventing runs and not pitchers? So the pitcher doesn’t matter any more? Just good defenders behind him? No matter the line drives coming off the bats at 110 mph or landing 450 from home plate? I think the pitcher has a drastically more impact in that equation than any defense no matter what you started saying ten years ago. Granted bad luck happens but you are being a bit over dramatic when you think pitchers don’t prevent runs. That’s their job and your crazy if you don’t think organizations still don’t look at ERAs.
Mets
“LOL, so a decade ago teams started preventing runs and not pitchers? ”
No. Wut? It was always that way.
“So the pitcher doesn’t matter any more? ”
No. Wut? No one said that. The pitcher is, you know, part of the team.
” I think the pitcher has a drastically more impact in that equation than any defense”
They do. Of course. But, the defense also matters. And ERA doesn’t account for that except in the most ham-fisted way possible.
ERA says that the result of all batted balls is 100% on the pitcher – that’s wrong
FIP, xFIP, etc say that the pitcher isn’t responsible for the result of any batted balls – that’s also wrong.
The truth is somewhere in the middle.
But, there’s not reason to look at ERA. Look at K’s, BB’s and batted balls. ERA tells nothing.
Mets
Here’s an article from not quite a decade ago
You might find it useful
library.fangraphs.com/era-fip-and-answering-the-ri…
ERA does tell something. It tells him many earn runs per nine innings a pitcher gives up. I didn’t say it was the only stat but teams most certainly still look at it. I think sometimes people like you get overly caught up in sabermatrics and try to overlook simple stuff. So you would consider a pitcher to have a good inning that gets roped for three doubles at 110 mph, two singles at 105 mph, a triple at 115 mph and all runners scored but he struck out all three batters to get out of the inning? It was the fielders fault so we don’t calculate that in FIP. He struck out three and didn’t walk anyone.
Mets
“It tells him many earn runs per nine innings a pitcher gives up. ”
But that doesn’t matter.
“So you would consider a pitcher to have a good inning that gets roped for three doubles at 110 mph, two singles at 105 mph, a triple at 115 mph and all runners scored but he struck out all three batters to get out of the inning? It was the fielders fault so we don’t calculate that in FIP. He struck out three and didn’t walk anyone.”
No.
And FIP wouldn’t say he had as good of an inning as a pitcher who pitched 1 inning and got 3 K’s and didn’t allow any batted balls.
Now, use your own logic.
Would you say Pitcher A who gave up 3 walks, got 2 K’s and then gave up a 400 ft fly ball to CF had a much better inning than pitcher B who gave up 3 walks, then got two K’s and gave up a 400 foot fly ball to CF just because Pitcher A’s CFer was 3 inches taller than Pitcher B’s CFer and managed to catch the ball before it went over the wall and Pitcher B’s couldn’t?
For the record:
Pitcher A ERA: 0.00
Pitcher B ERA: 54.00
Do you think that’s an accurate assessment of their pitching performance?
Mets
I’m guessing you didn’t read, or understand, the article.
I dont think you know what that word means.
Naawww… he’s been tossing clunkers lately. The guy has an innings watch on his arm. Selfishly, I’d rather him rest up and pitch in games that matter. He’s still having a great season. Always another shot next year.
Looking pretty darn good against the Sox right now. Only thing holding Gil back is two bad starts. Phenomenal the rest, looks All Star worthy to me
To be fair, Gil had bad starts against the Orioles, Brewers, Mets and Reds.
And Gil has been seriously great against EVERYONE else. His k rate is also fantastic.
At the end of the season, I bet he will be better than some of these other All-Stars.
Alonso? Gtfo with that, lindor or nimmo! Alonso is so insanely overrated
Alonso has said he would only do the homerun derby if he was an all-star. So, they want him in the derby, and they give him the nod over the more deserving mets. BOO.
My list of snubs? In the AL it’s Smith, O’Hoppe, and Rooker for position players, Kirby, Flaherty, Kimbrell, Estevez and Jansen for pitchers. In the NL it’s Nimmo and Walker, and Fried, Gray, Finnegan and Iglesias.
Bruce Hooper at NL 1B! Super stoked for Jurickson, El Suarezes, Strahm and Jackson Barrel! All well deserved roster spots everywhere, but I agree that Gil got hosed.
Lots of puffed up, know it alls on this site were adamant that AJ Preller was ruining Jackson Merrill out of desperation. Stoked for the kid!
It’s absurd the Pads got five reps and the Orioles got only three. Shows how weak the NL is.
Or how good those individual players were.
Stupid comment.
Troll
Teoscar has been a steal for the Dodgers.
I never understood why Toronto didn’t hang onto him. I also never understood why the Giants signed Soler over him.
Teoscar wanted to go to LAD … not SFG. Even chose to sign for less money to make that happen.
No Miranda in AL wtf??!
His streak was too late sadly
How did Ramos get in!?!? How did the giants have 2 all stars!?!?!?
I know there will be multiple fans posting multiple opinions about x player not making it, and most will have good cases. But, man I wish Josh smith and his 3.2 war had made it. Could be a career year for an underrated player.
It’s strange they put Semien in there. If they wanted a Rangers position player, Smith was the obvious choice. Semien’s bat has been sub par this year while Josh has been doing his best to carry the offense.
One could argue Semien is having one of his worst full seasons as a MLB player. The defense is solid but the batting looks like he’s back in his first couple years with Oakland.
Yeah, Semien headlines the “doesn’t deserve it” list. Pretty unreal they have him over Smith.
There is literally not a single valid argument for Semien to make it. None.
His past performance creates a valid argument. It doesn’t convince me, but it makes sense.
Abolish the “must have” from each team. What a farce.
It’s an exhibition game for the fans, fer crying out loud. Each fan base should have a representative. Trust me, as a lifelong Padres fan, that can be the one bright spot in a long, losing summer! I remember those 1970s Padres seasons. Seeing Winfield do some damage in the ASG made it all sooooo much better.
Yeah I actually agree with having one from every team. It might mean a deserving player or two doesn’t make it, but you can make a real case for guys who got snubbed every year. There are only so many spots.
And if you have teams without a representative then I’d imagine viewership numbers in those teams’ markets would be a lot lower. (This is probably the real reason that the rule is in place lol)
Michael – Correct, it’s important for ratings to have every team represented.
Why do some people here think the goal is to win the game? There is literally NOTHING at stake, it’s purely an exhibition of players that have performed well this year and/or in prior years.
If fans voted in 70s Winfield would have been a shoo in. Your point is ridiculous.
@lugnut Fans did vote in the 70s
@lugnut They did and he was. My point is that for a fan of a team that perennially struggles to get to 70 wins, a player succeeding in the all star game is a great thing, a bright spot. There’s 30 teams and 20 starting spots. Someone’s gonna lose out. It would be a shame to deny fans of a struggling team the opportunity to cheer one of their own on the “big stage.”
Thanks yo I was heavily stoned in 1970. I do remember Winfield and ugly uniforms.
Joe – The hometown team’s lone representative doesn’t even have to perform well in the ASG. Just being able to watch him play is a treat to his team’s fans. As a kid when I watched the ASG I was always focused on my team’s player(s) and excited to see him play, even if it was just one trip to the plate or a couple hitters faced.
I think people who are incapable of grasping the reason for the all-teams-represented rule are kinda showing they are self centered. Every fan of every team should have the opportunity to be proud of their team being represented. In fact I wish they would go back to wearing the player’s team uniform instead of the ASG uniforms.
I prefer abolishing fan voting and instead players are chosen by their current stats
The AS game is nothing but a popularity contest
I’ve always felt the starters should be based on performance, and the reserves can be voted in by the fans. That way the fans still get their picks but the starters are all truly deserving.
Players are the same ones who gave jeter (and others) GG’s for years undeservingly.
Writers perhaps, but players themselves vote little better than do ballot stuffing fans at certain stadiums.
@johnsilver Players don’t vote and never have for the GG awards, opposing managers and coaches do.
Cheers for that Bleacher. for years though was players (and coaches/managers) who did voting for GG’s.
Jeter, ’99 Rafael Palmeiro, etc. It’s always been a popularity contest before analytics.
“Nothing but a popularity contest”…Where have you been? The MLB All Star game is an exhibition game that is for the fans and it’s long been a “popularity contest”. By the way, what is wrong about an exhibition game that is geared around the most popular(and usually
best) players in MLB?
did I say it wasn’t an exhibition game?
We’re talking about how the players are selected
pay attention
The game is played FOR the fans. Why shouldn’t the fans see who they want to see play?
Novel and never before articulated like that idea . Why watch a all-star game with players nobody wants to see. Great idea. You definitely are not the Man.
I prefer 100% fan voting and recognizing the game for what it is: a marketing and business event.
There would be an uncivilized argument as to what stats to use/things to factor in. There is no absolute consensus as to what stats are the best and what all factors into the outcome whether one thinks there should be or not. If you propose any stat as the best a person with any imagination could pick potential holes in your underlying assumptions. I know people will say that’s not true but it really is.
I agree with you buddy…. always thought they should be picked by the players,coaches and managers.
Skenes was a great pick, but why leave keller off???
@theman3 Why shouldn’t it be? It’s an exhibition game designed for the fans. Why shouldn’t they see who they want? It’s an all “star” team, not an all “top performer” team. Fortunately, those categories frequently overlap. But I don’t care if I wind up watching some rookie on the hottest 80-game tear he’s ever been on and will wind up hitting .237 for the rest of his career. It’s a good story. It’s fun! And fun, really, is the whole point!
Stop with the players are chosen by a popularity contest—the fans votes for the starters in two stages and did well. Eight pitchers and the one back up at each position are CHOSEN BY A PLAYER VOTE! THE PLAYERS (and managers and coaches) VOTE FOR THE PLAYERS FILLING OUT ALMOST THE ENTIRE ROSTER.
The PLAYERS vote for more representatives that the fans–who did just fine.
How many years did it take you to finally figure that out? Fans get to watch their favorite players. That’s exactly what an All Star game should be.
There are 32 roster spots for each league (20 position players and 12 pitchers). The player ballots account for 17 players in both the AL and NL — eight pitchers (five starters and three relievers), as well as one backup for each position, including DH. The Commissioner’s Office is responsible for selecting six additional players in each league (four pitchers and two position players). At this stage, MLB must ensure that every club is represented by at least one All-Star selection.
The Twins having 1 all star while the Royals get 4 and The Tigers get 2 is ridiculous.
Why? None of these teams lead their division.
Who on the Twins should be there over Skubal and Greene? Which pitcher and outfielder?
It’s easy to argue the Tigers should have three all stars and Jack Flaherty should the there.
Same argument applies for KC. Who at those positions on tbe Twins should be there over the KC players.
Twins should have Royce Lewis because if the giants can have Ramos and the pirates can have skenes and the Phillies have turner then that means playing a full season doesn’t matter anymore
Who should Lewis replace?
The fans voted Turner in didn’t they? The other two have played very well.
No no no. Detroit should have one. Skubal. KC no more than three. They don’t need both Lugo AND Ragans. The simple math is that there should be more Orioles on this list instead. I haven’t kept up with the Twins but Royce has been fire when he’s been active. Detroit getting more than Minnesota is absurd. Once upon a time, sub .500 teams got one and one only.
You are making no sense. A teams record has no bearing on individual performances being rewarded with an all star nod.
Incorrect. Bad teams don’t usually get multiple reps unless their players are ELITE. See Ohtani & Trout. As usual, you’re full of it. Greene & Skubal aren’t Ohtani &; Trout. Detroit is a bad team. They should not have two reps. There are numerous better players on elite teams that deserve one of those spots.
There are 32 roster spots for each league (20 position players and 12 pitchers). The player ballots account for 17 players in both the AL and NL — eight pitchers (five starters and three relievers), as well as one backup for each position, including DH. The Commissioner’s Office is responsible for selecting six additional players in each league (four pitchers and two position players). At this stage, MLB must ensure that every club is represented by at least one All-Star selection.
As I said you are not making any sense. Skubal 100% deserves it and should likely be the AL starter. Greene has the #5 OPS amongst OF and is right up there for most other stats…and he is a top defensive player. He also deserves it.
You are talking in generalities and not making an argument supported by any facts, just a statement with no facts to back it up.
You said Orioles so who is your Orioles OF with better stats? No one because they do not have one. Pick a different team or position to argue about. You are off base with your comment dude.
Santander has been having a sneaky good season
“You said Orioles so who is your Orioles OF with better stats?”
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Motor City Beach Bum;
They pick players for the ASG by their stats? Really? Didn’t know that.
Which ones?
Motor City continues to be a clown.
Santander over Greene all day.
Greene has been doing it all by himself. Santander is in a lineup with Henderson, Rutschman, Westburg et al. He has protection in the lineup, people who get on base ahead of him and he is not in the same class defensively as Greene.
I don’t begrudge you your opinion. All I’m saying is show me the basis for your argument he should be there over Greene.
It’s a discussion. You don’t need to be insulting.
See response to SewaldSwansonSwoon below. Greene didn’t get voted in by the fans. That part of the process sometimes produces head scratchers and players who have no business being there. Greene has the stats to back up his selection.
I agree Santander is having a good season. See response below to SewaldSwansonSwoon.
Flaherty also has an argument to be there based on his performance and Carpenter likely would have as well if he hadn’t gotten hurt.
Santander has done similar for years, and only continues to get better. If you ask a pitcher who they’re spending the most time preparing for out of Greene, Santander, or Fry, they’re going to say Santander. 11-12 pitch ABs and power from both sides of the plate, year over year. Hard to K. Hits in the clutch. And mashed 13 dingers in June. It’s just obvious.
Santander was a thumper in the middle of the Orioles line up well before the likes of Rutschman and Henderson and the other baby Birds showed up. Honestly, I don’t think he cares all that much who’s around him in the line up. Hits baseballs with joyous passion. Fun to watch. POBO Elias. Extend that Tony Taters fellow, stat!
How many pitchers have you talked to to come up with that? Its obvious to you because you like him and want it to be so. Doesn’t mean it is. Santander is a good player; so is Greene. Greene got picked and has a very deserving case for being picked so it is what it is.
lp717, tell the twins to play better if they want more all stars….
I thought Jax deserved it this year. Maybe Jeffers/Castro
O’Hoppe > Perez
“O’Hoppe > Perez”..I’m assuming you’re suggesting that O’Hoppe should have made it over Salvador Perez?…I haven’t read the story, but Salvador is a legitimate HOF candidate and that will always buy you an extra All Star game entry or two. The Angels fans seem to love O’Hoppe and if he’s as good as they seem to think, with his young age, there’s plenty of of All Star games in his future
Ohoppes numbers aren’t closer to salvys ..crazy take
Skenes with 10 starts… Wack
Skenes is a great all star pick imo, and it didn’t take even 10 starts to prove it.
Exactly the point. Takes MORE than 10 starts to prove it.
Not really although you sound like a upset Phillies fan
Never been to Philly. Is it nice?
10 starts in his major league. What a joke. Where is Jesse Chavez with his mid 1 ERA with 18 more games played. A great all-star pick, 10 games, overall. What a joke. 10 career games and he gets an all star nod. How sad the Pirates suck so much that he is the only one they can send almost.
They could’ve sent Reynolds. Just the MLB trying to prop up the new golden boy. Small sample size. Make him prove it over time.
“Prop up the new golden boy”…it’s called “sports marketing”; you may have heard of it. If not, look it up in an online dictionary.
Like you said in another reply you made… If he’s as good as they say he is he’ll get his shot. Maybe we could find another “future HOF” pitcher tantamount to Salvador Perez to replace Skenes with. Don’t try to play both sides homie.
I’m a Tigers fan and of all the players on both rosters Skenes is one of the players I’m most interested in seeing during the All Star game. His call up has been one of biggest stories in first half of the season. He absolutely deserves to be there.
As someone who has watched almost all of those starts, two of them in person at the game, Skenes is absolutely an All Star. I wouldn’t be surprised if the manager picks him to start the game and he’s probably going to be top 3 in Cy Young voting at the end of the year. Stop hating, he’s the real deal.
I would have put Skenes in with only 1 start. Goal is to make $. Fans would complain but the fact they are interested in the all star games means they have nothing better to do and will still watch. Skenes will bring in viewers who wouldn’t have watched otherwise. They will show Livvy half a dozen times. It will be like the Bob Nutting version of Taylor Swift.
But his 10 starts have been incredible and he is worthy of his spot. I think majority of fans want to see Skenes more than whoever would have taken his spot.
Did you complain the same when Fernando Valenzuela started the ’81 all-star game on the strength of 14 starts?
No surprise on the Reds representative.
Sad but true. If the team had not been so injured or drug-suspended, the Reds probably would have a much better record with how good the pitching has been. If McLain had played, he may have been another All=Star for the team. Heck, if they were in first place or top in the wild card, they probably would have gotten a starter, too. But, nope. Welcome to the underperformin, David Bell led Reds of 2024.
The front office never addressed the right handed hitting corner outfield needs (if not a full time guy, period) or beefing up the back end of the bullpen leading to Diaz either.
I honestly thought Hunter Greene had a shot, but they apparently picked a short season rookie in Skenes over him.
Having seen Skenes pitch, I cannot blame them, but usually players need somewhat of a track record to be an All-Star.
Greene doesn’t move the excitement needle. Skenes really moves it. Skenes is the better business decision.
Hunter Greene literally throws as hard as skenes it’s just that the reds are cautious with him so he isn’t firing it at 100 every pitch like Paul
Does it get old just repeating the same ignorant bs over and over? Stfu already clown
What
How is Rooker not an all-star?!
Rooker isn’t an all star because there is no way Oakland is getting 2 this year and mason miller is more deserving of the two.
Which OFer would you leave off for him? Every AL OFer has been significantly more valuable (counting defense) than Rooker so far this season.
To replace an outfielder, I would replace Riley Greene with Rooker. I don’t know about his defense, but Rooker has a better stat line.
Defense is very critical in this respect: Greene is miles better than Rooker in the outfield (more than the difference in the players’ offensive skill sets)
Rooker should bot even own a glove, that’s how bad his defense is. Dude could be Schwarber’s mentor for bad defense.
I also don’t think Fry is quite deserving with under 200 AB’s
Rooker was listed as a DH, not OF.
Rooker? The weather man from the today show? That’s why. Casual fans don’t pay any attention to Oakland and don’t know who he is. Oakland fans don’t have enough viewers to bribe them to watch. He would have to be special or leave Miller off. Miller, i know who that is. Kid that throws hard.
No Jesse Chavez 🙁
Do they have a fan vote for final players on teams anymore?
Was a time when fans got to vote on a so called “26th man” believe it was called to fill out AS rosters. Think that ended several years back.
Yeah that ended quietly when the pandemic struck. Along with Player’s Weekend jerseys and several other things.
There are 32 roster spots for each league (20 position players and 12 pitchers). The player ballots account for 17 players in both the AL and NL — eight pitchers (five starters and three relievers), as well as one backup for each position, including DH. The Commissioner’s Office is responsible for selecting six additional players in each league (four pitchers and two position players). At this stage, MLB must ensure that every club is represented by at least one All-Star selection.
How many times are you going to copy/paste this comment?!?
He thinks he’s being scholarly
Holmes???
LOL.
That is seriously the worst pick of all. More so than Semien even!
Heliot am All-Star!
No. Winn.
Semien? Elly? SMH. Seems weak picks in here.
Okay, I guess Elly is fine. But Semien is such a joke.
He’s ‘fine’??? My sir, he is 2nd in the NL in war and 6th in the MLB. What else must a 22 year old kid do to make the team? Hell, you could argue he should be the starting shortstop in the NL. Turner has missed so much time in the first half in comparison.
WAR? We’re citing WAR?
WAR is a decent way to look at all around game. I wonder which WAR as they vary .
DS
Yes
WAR is, by far, the best measure of player performance
Is it? Please tell me exactly how it’s calculated and the differences in the calculations? Who gets to determine how it’s calculated?
Mets
Yes.
Name another one that’s better. Tell me exactly how it’s calculated and how you’ve determined that it’s better
So you couldn’t tell me how it’s calculated?
Mets
Tell me a better measure
And, since it’s apparently of utmost importance to you, how it’s calculated
Not a clue. That’s my point. It’s a random algorithm put together by someone that I have no idea who is or what their knowledge is but I’m supposed to trust it. I kindve can trust the offensive metrics but no way trust the defensive metrics they randomly put in. It no way accounts for moving runners over or other key baseball elements that are needed for winning baseball and over emphasis’s walks. I’m not saying it’s invaluable but it’s also just a tool.
Mets6969
You don’t have a clue how your favorite measure is calculated? Weird
Are you saying that WAR is a random algorithm? It’s not. It’s not an algorithm. It’s a formula.
That you don’t trust things without evidence is good. Here’s some evidence of why you should trust WAR
“For 2009, the correlation between a team’s projected record based on their WAR total and their actual record was .83. This is a robust number, especially considering that WAR is almost completely context independent and currently includes some notable omissions”
blogs.fangraphs.com/war-it-works/
“Like with team wins and WAR wins, the correlation between Pythagorean wins and WAR wins was strong in 2018. In fact, with an R-squared value of 0.95. This means that our model (or line of best fit) is able to explain about 95 percent of the variability in our data set”
beyondtheboxscore.com/2018/12/26/18155292/correlat…
You can do this for any year and get similar results. WAR does an excellent job of measuring player performance.
If you want to know how it’s calculated, there’s plenty of info on that too
library.fangraphs.com/war/calculating-war-pitchers…
library.fangraphs.com/war/war-position-players/
library.fangraphs.com/calculating-position-player-…
“over emphasis’s walks”
I’ve given you plenty of evidence in favor of WAR. Give a shred of ACTUAL DATA showing that it “over emphasis’s [sic] walks”.
The floor is yours.
He’s a three-time third place MVP candidate. He’s still playing elite defense, and he’s known to have stronger second halves.
So it’s a predictive all-star selection? Semien goes because they expect him to come on strong after the summer classic? Be honest — he’s having what amounts to his weakest offensive season since his rookie year with Oakland.
1 player at least from every team.
Yes, which is why I’m fine with Elly. TEX has Yates.
Clay Holmes? Really? What a joke.
Ezequiel Tovar deserved the spot over Elly de la Cruz. I don’t care what anyone says. I’ll die on that hill.
I think Elly got in on popularity more than anything else.
Elly is 6th in the majors in fWAR (since their model likes his defence and speed along with a solidly above-average bat). He undeniably has a strong statistical case.
Tovar is the best defensive shortstop in the league and is among the league leaders in both hits and extra base hits. You know…those things you can actually see and count instead an algorithm that would never even be attempted without a computer.
1 player from every team, guess that hiflew over your head. So kick someone off other than Cruz.
This isn’t the player with the best defense at shortstop selection. Elly has the second highest WAR in the NL and 6th overall in both leagues at 3.9. Tovar is at 2.3
You may not like all the press Elly gets, but that isn’t a reason to say he doesn’t deserve to be int he game. I think Tovar should be in the game, too. He is slick at short.
The only reason Tovar gets knocked on WAR is because he doesn’t get many walks. But he is among the league leaders in hits and extra base hits. So I don’t really care what some algorithm that overrates walks compared to hits says.
Love me some Tovar! He’s young so he’ll get his.
And nobody cares what some random guy who lacks objectivity and knowledge about baseball analysis (and who doesn’t know the difference between a metric and an algorithm) thinks. It’s your right to debate baseball in a manner that would fly in 1955, but the rest of the sport moved on from that a long time ago.
Paul Skenes over Jesse Chavez. What a joke this mid summer classic has become.
Your comment is more the joke. Chavez has not been a higher quality per batter/inning pitcher than Skenes this year, and Skenes has thrown 22 more IP already despite not being allowed to pitch in the Majors until May 11th.
“Paul Skenes over Jesse Chavez..what a joke”…First off, I’m a big Jesse Chavez fan. But if you’re making this commentary, you clearly don’t understand sports marketing or the purpose of an All Star game. Paul Skenes is a 1st overall draft pick who’s been electric, sensational and compared to the great Nolan Ryan by at least 1 Hofer. Jesse Chavez is a 39th round draft pick who’s best known as a nostalgic vagabond who’s always on the move and who seems to always pitch well for the Atlanta Braves. Basically one guy is a marketing opportunity and a chance to attract casual fans(and make $$)and one guy is not. It’s no knock on Jesse Chavez, who’s had a nice career, but MLB is a for-profit business that uses popular, well known players to recruit new fans. And lastly, have you seen Paul Skenes’ girlfriend?…As a celebrity it never hurts to have an ultra hot girlfriend.
The Pirates don’t deserve 2 All-Stars IMO but Skenes is definitely more deserving than a reliever with 37 IP and a 4.02 FIP.
People are interested in seeing Skenes pitch. They couldn’t care less about Chavez. Needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. And they make more $ for the owners.
Who cares about Jesse Chavez? Let him go pitch the 6th inning of some old timers game.
Those of you complaining that the ASG is a popularity contest seem to not understand the fact that it is EXACTLY that because it is a meaningless exhibition game FOR the fans. So fans pick the starters and each team is represented. Stop bellyaching.
I came for the fan outrage.
I’m going to boycott the game on their behalf bc they’ll still watch.
Did anyone really count the #’s.
There are 32 AL reps
There are 35 NL reps
yeah, I was confused about this as well.
It’s listed that way on all platforms. The NL got 1 extra pitcher and 2 extra position players. Those extra choices may be because certain one are hurt or choosing not to play, not sure!!
Came here to ask that exact question. I thought it was pre-emptive injury replacements, but I believe Betts is the only NL player who’s hurt right now. Plus Tucker is there for the AL and they have 32.
Maybe Polishuk can clue us in.
Tatis is hurt.
Oh right, forgot about him. But what about a third guy?
Too advanced analytics for me.
Tatis, Betts hurt
Wheeler pitches Sunday and was replaced by Skenes.
So 35 on the NL roster.
What a joke. Reminds me of homecoming court selections when much prettier girls were overlooked because of popularity.
“Much prettier girls were overlooked”…What school did you attend?…In the one I went to, the prettiest girls never got “overlooked “.
Yes boogie.. Yes. All you ever hear about is people being discriminated because of age race gender etc. As a extremely good looking person thank you from the bottom of my gorgeous heart. About time people started standing up for people like me.
Congratulations to Heliot Ramos! We wouldn’t have even seen him in the big leagues this year if not for all the injuries. No credit given to Farhan. Ramos was drafted by Bobby Evans
No Brice Turang (MIL 2B) – Total Snub
When you have to list their team and position then they ain’t no all star.
Merrill over Nimmo doesn’t make sense. Alonso over Nimmo is even more crazy. Both Lindor and Nimmo are more deserving than Pete.
4 Phillies pitchers?? B please 2 was enough
And one of them should have been Sanchez. Having two setup guys on an All-Star roster is weird. Wheeler, Suarez, Sanchez should be the only Phillies on the pitching staff.
Apparently, both Strahm and Hoffman did really well on the Player’s Vote, so they both made it in. I thought Strahm was possible, didn’t expect Hoffman.
And the 4 Phils pitchers is more technical than actual. Wheeler is pitching on Sunday, so he can’t play in the actual game. He was selected, then immediately replaced with a non-Phillie.
Seven Phils is overkill. Meanwhile, best team in the AL gets…
Three.
Wtf.
There are 32 roster spots for each league (20 position players and 12 pitchers). The player ballots account for 17 players in both the AL and NL — eight pitchers (five starters and three relievers), as well as one backup for each position, including DH. The Commissioner’s Office is responsible for selecting six additional players in each league (four pitchers and two position players). At this stage, MLB must ensure that every club is represented by at least one All-Star selection.
At least 1 more time I see
Shoto at a 3.16 ERA over Jesse Chavez with a 1.67 ERA. Again like the Pirates, if the Cubs didn’t suck so bad then decent spots wouldn’t go purely to Participation Trophies like Shoto getting in. He is the only Cub, and he isn’t good.
1 player from every team. And an entire country wants to see Shoto. No on cares about a reliever.
Imanaga might not be available, he’s on schedule to start Tuesday and Sunday, and since the Cubs have a DH this week they may not be able to push him back.
Chavez is also a middle reliever (whereas Shota is a starter) and has worse underlying statistics
What is up with you all complaining about your middle reliever? Is this what your season has come down too?
Can you explain how Shota is not “good”?
Bryan Hudson missing is beyond sad
He’s been terrible in July so that killed his chances
Who dat? Majority of fans watching all star game don’t have a clue so they won’t miss him.
To be fair, the majority of fans don’t have any clue who Jeff Hoffman and Matt Strahm are either. Having more than one setup/middle relief pitcher in the All-Star Game is kinda dumb.
Some Pitchers will be replaced who started on Sunday.
Kimbrel, Westburg, GrayRod snubbed. Semien hitting .220 something and Kirby Yates and Holmes get in.
Just dumb.
What beef do you have with Yates? I’d argue he’s having a superior season compared to Kimbrel
I agree. A sub 1.00 era he’s had a terrific year
2B is really slim pickins in the AL this year and Westburg, who should have made it, was listed as a 3B on ballots. AL 3B is loaded with Ramirez, Devers, and Paredes all deserving. Plus the Rays needed one All-Star and he’s the only one deserving.
If it HAD to be by the positions on the ballots, I would have picked IKF as the backup behind Altuve.
Game is in Texas. What would be dumb would be not putting many Rangers on the team that you could.
Then the Rangers should play better.
No, it wouldn’t. It will be sold out either way.
There have been several All Star Games where the host team was bad and only got one selection.
Same reactions every year
It is ok. The NL central and the AL Central will always get dissed. Wait and see!
How did the AL Central get dissed? The Royals have more All Stars than both the Yankees and Orioles. The Tigers have 2 (probably 3 once the pitching replacements are announced), Cleveland got 2 starters and another 2 reserves.
Congratulations to those selected. Condolences to those who feel slighted. There will be injury replacements to follow.
I have no issues with the selections. I also don’t take it all that seriously.
Jackson Merrill is the best Jackson on the league
@MrQ
“Jackson Merrill is the best Jackson on the league”
I dunno, Reggie was pretty good at Rickwood about getting ON the League. I think his time there truthing was likely more valuable than anything Merrill has done all year.
Sorry let me fix it then.
Jackson Merrill is the best currently active Jackson on the league.
Sorry Ms Jackson
MacGrom,
Reggie endured racial slurs and mistreatment at restaurants and hotels in society. It had absolutely nothing to do with Major League Baseball in the 60’s.
Shawn W;
Oh, please.
No. He didn’t.
Why does the NL have 35 All-Stars when the roster is supposed to be 32 players?
Probably has to do with those selected while being injured and unable to play.
That’s what I thought, but the AL didn’t name a 33rd player to replace Tucker.
Have you seen the AL dominance? Trying to even things up!
I’m hoping Jesse Chavez gets in as a replacement pick. There may be players having slightly better years, but Jesse is a class act.
So now we’re selecting All-Stars based on likeable they are?
Remove Merrill and Alonso, add Walker and Nimmo. You get a more deserving 1B, a Met, and an equal replacement in the OF.
Nimmo is having a great year, equal to Merrill in terms of WAR, but Merrill is best CF in NL and defense counts too, no? Nimmo probably deserves AS over LA’s Teoscar Hernandez
Congrats David Fry! Well deserved
Quit looking at me Kwan!
Shampoo is better!
Congrats to Rafael Devers, Jarren Duran and Tanner Houck
To many Dodger players. 6 is to many from one team. How does Skenes get in over Hunter Greene? What horse crap!!
The only Dodger player I feel you could even argue shouldn’t have made it is Hernandez and he leads all NL outfielders in HR and RBIs. I was very surprised however to see his OPS is barely over .800 and his WAR has him outside the top 10 but far from a reach to put him in
People want to see Skenes. Greene is just another guy.
Im going to say the quiet part outloud. Alvarez and Vientos deserved to be the Mets rep over Alonso. You can make cases for Nimmo and Lindor (Lindor is not an allstar in my opinion), but those 2 are the heart and soul of this team
“say the quiet part out loud”? What do you think you’re doing, spilling state secrets?
Brady Singer should be on
I think Singer should have gotten the nod over Ragans but not complaining since Royals never have deserving starting pitchers in the All Star Game. Two starting pitchers from the Royals is a first for them.
Royals shouldn’t have four guys period. Not when the Orioles only get three.
Lindor is better than Abram’s and not having Nimmo there is a shame.
If Lindor was a National and Abrams was a Met he would have made it. As is Abrams is the obvious choice.
Abrams should have made it
Lindor should be an All Star every year. He has bad Aprils and everyone gets carried away and acts like other shortstops are as good or better than him. When the season is over every year he destroys them all in WAR every year. The only shortstop in the national league that is close to Lindor is Turner year in and year out.
Brent Rooker should be there . I voted for him . I’ll gladly except the extra draft pick . For the A’s , and finally nothing to do with Oakland . I’m not watching anymore home games . They the people in the stands just ruin the game . Dorks clapping in unison. Saying the same old lame chants that some hack of an organ player makes . I’ll be so glad to be fully rid of that amateur crowd . You stay behind and make dumb noises at Baller’s games .
Brice Turang was robbed. He better get in if Marte has to drop out.
Absolutely. Turang has been one of the top 15 most valuable players in the national league.
I understand the numbers challenges but Parades over Westburg is unfortunate. 2.9 WAR vs 1.9 – stats are similar but defense isn’t close
Devers! Nice game tonight.
No Mike Trout.
Good.
Destined to be the Ernie Banks of this generation.
Good for Heliot. I thought he’d get snubbed, well deserved
Altuve should be ineligible
You should consult a therapist.
Where is Bibee?! Tough to see the ACE of the AL’s best team not on the ASG roster. He should be first in line for replacement
Not really. Everybody would rather have Flaherty on the mound over him
Look like a fun game. I’ll take the NL to win late.
Munoz being denied over kirby Yates is freaking WILD AS FU##. go home mlb.com. u drunk
Jackson Merrill first homegrown Padres All Star since Jake Peavy in 2007 and first homegrown Padres position player All Star since Tony Gwynn in 2001.
Best CF in NL, already
yep, the Chris sale trade has been awesome for us Sox fans, they get an all star pitcher, we can’t keep grissom on the field, I knew this was gonna happen
This guy should be in, that guy got snubbed, blah blah blah. I’d argue with you guys but the truth is I haven’t watched an All Star game in over twenty years.
Rogue
“I haven’t watched an All Star game in over twenty years.”
OK
I haven’t gone to a movie in 2024
:shrug:
I don’t think this his recent success in the Mexican league qualifies him as one of the best pitchers in the world
As always
A Meaningless exhibition game
Is there even 64 All-Stars in the game? How watered down has this game become with all the teams in the post season, 64 all stars, 4 2/3 innings is a quality start.Sheesh.
There will be even more playoffs teams once expansion happens. Love it, hate it… the fans and their pockets have spoken.
Not a legitimate all star game without Jake Irvin & Jordan Westburg
Clay Holmes over Andres Munoz…. Highway robbery. Stats don’t compare even a little!!