Since half the league has reportedly shown interest in White Sox left-hander Garrett Crochet, it isn’t surprising that a contender like the Yankees are on that list, as the New York Post’s Jon Heyman writes that the Bombers “very much like Crochet.” However, the Yankees still aren’t keen to part with top prospect Spencer Jones, who was known to be a chief White Sox target when Chicago and New York discussed a possible Dylan Cease trade last offseason before Cease was dealt to the Padres.
While Heyman isn’t sure if Jones is necessarily still a priority get for the White Sox, the 2022 first-rounder’s stock is likely still quite high despite only okay numbers at Double-A Somerset. After a very slow start to the season, Jones’ bat has started to cook over the last six weeks, bringing his season slash line to .241/.322/.408 over 320 plate appearances. Baseball America (73rd) and MLB Pipeline (74th) still have Jones within their top-75 prospect lists, and both outlets rank him behind only Jasson Dominguez as the top minor leaguer in the New York farm system.
More from around the AL Central…
- The Guardians optioned left-hander Logan Allen to Triple-A today to create a roster spot for the newly-acquired Spencer Howard. Manager Stephen Vogt told MLB.com’s Mandy Bell and other reporters that the demotion is “an opportunity for Logan to go down and get some consistency back….And so he’s been working really hard on some delivery, some different things that are going to help him with that consistency.” Allen had an impressive 2023 rookie season but has run into a sophomore slump this year, posting a 5.67 ERA and a wealth of subpar secondary metrics over 18 starts and 87 1/3 innings.
- Tigers center fielder Parker Meadows suffered a right hamstring injury while trying to steal second base in the eighth inning of today’s 5-1 win over the Reds. More will be known after Meadows undergoes testing, but manager A.J. Hinch admitted to media (including Bally Sports Detroit) that “I don’t love what I heard from the get-go” after initial talks with Meadows and the team’s training staff. Meadows was only just called back up to the Tigers’ roster after a two-month stint in Triple-A, as the defensive standout was trying to get his bat going after an ice-cold performance at the plate in April.
- In other Tigers injury news, Jack Flaherty is tentatively scheduled to start against the Guardians on Thursday. Flaherty’s last turn through the rotation was skipped after he received an injection to help treat a recurring back issue, and Evan Petzold of the Detroit Free Press writes that Flaherty also received another injection earlier in June. Even after a shaky performance in his last start, Flaherty still has a 3.24 ERA in 89 innings during what has been a nice comeback season for the right-hander. Since Flaherty is considered a prime trade candidate heading into the deadline, a few more healthy and effective starts would go a long way to ease the doubts of any potential suitors, and help the Tigers land a bigger return in a deal.
That stinks for Meadows as he had worked really hard in Toledo to improve his swing and plate approach and showed improvement after being recalled.
What stinks is Meadows
A little early to say that as he’s made adjustments to his swing. He had a fantastic weekend, but obviously you don’t watch Tiger baseball else you would have known that.
I watch Tigers baseball and I also have watched some Mud Hen games on the internet. I am not sure why you decided that my comment needed to be slammed. But if you look at his swing from April and saw some of his at bats in Toledo and this weekend he has changed some things and showed improvement. I was just commenting that getting hurt stinks for him after his recall.
I wasn’t responding to you but to Dumpster Diving Theo. Sorry for the confusion. I have no issue with your post sabres.
Sorry. Go Tigers.
Yes, go Tigers! I haven’t heard an update on Parker but hope he’s not out too long. I’m hoping it was simply a hamstring cramp as it was hot in Cincinnati and he may have been dehydrated but I fear it might be something more. I was thoroughly impressed with his swing in the small sample size they got from him after the recall.
Meadows to the IL, Baddoo back up. Shouldn’t be very long as it’s a minor strain to the hamstring for Parker.
I liked Badoo earlier in his career but I think this his last chance to show he can contribute to this team. I just hope Parker recovers quickly and continues to progress as I really like his speed and improving defense in CF.
I agree regarding Baddoo. By rights he was lightning in a bottle, especially having not played above class A before the Rule 5 draft. Too bad he has regressed since.
I see no Baez update
Baez is playing his rehab games in Toledo. He’s hitting very well in the first 4 games. Hope he keeps it up.
I think Baez is back tomorrow. I didn’t think I’d ever say it, but he’s better than Kreidler and McKinstry. The bar is set very low and I’m extremely disappointed in Kreidler.
IMO, Baez is gone during the offseason and so is McKinstry. I’m thinking Harris and Ilitch have seen enough ineptitude at shortstop.
It is time to trade off Skubal to Baltimore for Holliday +1` and get that SS of the future!
Baltimore won’t trade Holliday and Detroit won’t trade Skubal. Whose is your plus one in that scenario?
Kreidler has shown he can’t hit At All. How is it possible to be disappointed?
I was hoping he’d at least outhit Baez. That’s the disappointment.
It makes sense, it would put the O’s on a path to the WS and help the Tigers with a prospect for the future.
Dylan Beavers as the +1 a big lefty bat the Tigers need
$1 maybe?
No news is good news?
How ’bout no Baez is good Baez???
No news is no news. 🙂
Well, ah say, well, cain’t argue with dat!!!
Hopefully Flaherty bounces right back like last time he missed a start. He will bring in a nice return at the deadline as long as he keeps pitching well.
Crappy about Meadows.
And Baez…needs to go. Hopefully the Tigers can get a decent young SS at the deadline to replace him.
Why not give Navigato a chance? DFA McKinstry and bring him up and see what he has, if they can’t snag someone in a trade.
Yankees would be foolish not to include Jones in a package for Crochet.
No worries on the spin Heyman. WSox will aim higher than hyped Spencer Jones to deal a TOR starter in Crochet. They would push for Dominguez as headliner or pivot to any number of other teams.
Yes, we get your act and your spam, Stuperfife. I thought you said you weren’t going to post here anymore, but you lied and made a new account. Now we have to tolerate this BS? Geez, get a life you toothless weirdo.
Unless I’m missing something TF4ever, Trevor isn’t Stuporfife. At least Trevor bought a membership. I can’t see Stuporfife ever ponying up!
Study their posting style. They’re exactly the same.
Also, read Stuperfife’s comment on the Wingenter post. Apparently he was paying for a membership….according to him. Being I don’t pay, I don’t know if multiple account names is a perk or not, or if he actually canceled his account and paid for a new one.
He will be waiting a loooooong time.
Nice edit Stuperfife, we’re already on to you.
A Dominguez for Crochet 1 for 1 deal seems fair to me.
That would be a terrible deal.
For who? You are a White Sox fan. Don’t you think your team would be better off with Dominguez?
I’m a Wsox fan. Wsox will mostly likely get more than just Dominguez.
He’s the number 25 prospect in all of baseball. Crochet has 2.5 years of control left and will be on an innings limit in 2024.
Dominguez has stud potential. I think that would be a great get for the White Sox for a guy the White Sox simply dont need in Crochet.
So the Yankees do need Crochet? Why don’t Yankees just buy whatever they need like they usually do instead of playing hardball with White Sox, Personally I’d rather have Crochet bc lately nearly e ery on of Yankees prospects are just that …a prospect. Sox have a known commodity with Crochet, Yankees just prospects that they gloat over every year.
Dominguez alone won’t get Crochet, but it would get about half way there.
In this market, with so few viable SPs available…and even fewer with cheap control….Crochet will get a lot more than he’s probably worth.
Crochet is a flawed player because he’s really not gonna help much for a playoff run in 2024.
That’s the number 25 prospect in baseball who is big league ready right now with 6 and a half years of control left, 3 of which at league minimum. That’s a good offer. If the White Sox want multiple players fine but they aren’t getting him and more it’s just not happening.
Have you seen what happens to the price of gas when there is any threat of a shortage?
I agree that Crochet is a flawed trade candidate, IF you are looking at him as a front end candidate this year.
But he will ba packaged as an elite multi inning back end reliever this year and two years of CY level starter….all for a total of about $15 mil in salary….with first crack at extending him.
Lets follow this up a bit.
In 2016 Andrew Miller was a multi inning back end reliever for NYY. He had two plus years of control for a total of about $21 mil. He was traded at the deadline for four prospects..one top 30,one top 100, and two others.
In 2018 Brad Hand was a very good closer with two plus years of control at about $17 mil. The return for him was a concensus top 10 catching prospect.
Both of those packages were worth a lot more than Dominguez…and neither of those guys were starters.
Have you seen what’s happened to the price of gas since they started making electric cars more frequently?
Turning him into a reliever in 2024 is a huge risk. Why don’t the Sox do that now?
Dominguez looks like a stud. Clint Frazier was the big piece in that Miller deal but he had taken a step back at the time of the deal he wasn’t playing well at AAA.
No they weren’t starters but Miller was the best reliever in baseball perhaps at the time.
We will see what happens.
Not turning him into a reliever is a much bigger risk…lol.
I dont know where you are getting your info about Frazier.
Pre 2016, BA ranked him 44th. Pre 2017, just after the trade, BA ranked him 39th.
Pre 2016, MLB ranked him 27th, after 24th.
Pre 2016, BP ranked him 53rd, after 16th.
No way was Frazier trending down.
It will take more than Dominguez to acquire Crochet.
Dominguez is a good opening offer, but not good enough.
Frazier was not having a good year at AAA at the time of the trade look it up. Dominguez has been hurt but he’s played great in a small sample size since getting healthy.
We will see what happens. I think Crochet gets dealt by the end of the month and I think it’s gonna be for less than you think it is.
Good offer but not enough for Crochet
Just wait and see. I think everyone, not just White Sox fans but everyone, is a bit delusional as to what Crochet is worth.
Or, they are delusional as to what Dominguez is worth…lol.
If Dominguez does get dealt it’s going to be for something really really good.
We both agree with that.
But it won’t be for a pitcher with two years of control at below market costs like Crochet, unless he’s part of a much bigger package.
The White Sox would be fools to pass on him for Crochet. Fools.
Hmmm
2.5 years of a SP who has put up 5.2 fWAR in 178 IP…with 12.66 K rate…both ERA and F1P below 3.00.
You must be Jasson’s Mom, Dad, or sister.
The problem is he’s only pitched 178 innings in his career and this is his 4th full season in the bigs.
“Crochet is a flawed player because he’s really not gonna help much for a playoff run in 2024.”
Then why are teams falling over each other to get him?
The Sox are going to get a haul or resign him.
I don’t think teams are falling over each other to get him.
Why would the White Sox sign him long term, which I assume is what you meant?
Linked to the wrong Logan Allen
Hahaha imagine the wrong Logan Allen reading this
ironically he was also in cleveland and is also a left handed pitcher lol. and also sucks just as much.
I don’t remember the Sox ever getting anyone great from the Yankees over-hyped prospects.
Drew Thorpe a NYY prospect off to a nice start. SD flipped him for Cease last offseason after getting him from Yanks same offseason in the Soto trade.
If Crochet is gone, my bet is it’s either b/c super aggressive SD/Preller deals them the really young defensive stud C Salas…..or Balt deals Mayo as headliner. Getz will keep him if they don’t land at least 1 big time player it perceives as a stud.
2.5yrs of a young confident dirt cheap TOR starter (w/TJS out of the way) leaves almost no target untouchable. Let’s be honest he’d also likely be open to an extension if he believes in the FO of acquiring team.
I could see the Wsox extending Crochet. It seems like Getz wants to keep Crochet if not traded by 7/30. He must reveal the Wsox plans for 2025 sooner rather than later.
They tried and he declined
Recent report says they tried and aren’t optimistic bc of timing. There was no evidence Crochet declining it, we don’t know what the offer was tbh.
They’ve come out and said they are shopping Crochet b/c they couldn’t extend him. That pretty much says Crochet declined. I am sure any offer they made was a joke, Reinsdorf is too cheap to pony up for good players.
The issue is that it’s more like 2 years of control because most teams think he will need to be shutdown soon or put in the pen.
Teams are will to pay the extra cost if they could count on him being a starter the rest of the year. Between that and a limited track record to go with a poor injury history. It will be interesting to see if any team pays a steep
Price for him.
Wsox are willing to pay team friendly salaries to top/former prospects. Maybe they tried like 5-6 year 60-70m? We don’t know what the offer was at the end of the day.
Its ‘the Chairman’, he probably offered that Crochet pay the Sox for the ‘honor’ of pitching on the southside.
Crochet is going to cost:
– Top pitching prospect
– Top infield prospect
and
– Top outfield prospect
Let the whining commence…
Yankees are not trading Jones until Soto is guaranteed to come back.
Makes sense.
Soto is gone. The Yankees are a joke and he’s gonna get more $$ elsewhere.
You can keep this guy, while he’s a good pitcher, any smart GM would not trade Jasson!
Not sure what your meaning of a top prospect is. If you are suggesting they will get 3 top 100 guys I doubt that happens. Not a lot of contenders even have 3 top 100 guys to spare.
People might say the O’s but they aren’t trading 3 top guys for anyone, not their style.
Boy I love your style Walt. “BELTIN’ Melton fan here.
With so many teams eyeing Garret Crochet, it looks like the Yankees will have to knit together a pretty impressive offer to get him!
Not happening. I will take Tanner Rogers as Crochet will cost too much!
Agreed. If Cashman trades Spencer Jones OR Jasson Dominguez, he should be canned. I give Soto signing with the Yankees, about a 5% chance. He’ll predictably wind up with the Dodgers. The Yankees, despite being 18 games over .500, have played like garbage for a month now, and aren’t winning anything in the playoffs. Let Soto go to LA for a billion dollars, until he’s 40. The Yanks should go with an outfield of Judge, Dominguez, and Spencer Jones, and spend the money that Soto would demand, on some REAL starting pitching, for a change.
@Keena
Not that I don’t agree with you but this year’s FA SP class isn’t that great. Sure, you have Cole at the top, but beyond that, it’s a bunch of aging guys who haven’t’ really done much or have been injured. I guess the ones that stand out are Freddy Peralta (if the club option isn’t taken), Walker Buehler & Max Fried. Doesn’t really scream buy right now.
As a guy with back issues I’d be weary with any player with them. Injections help short term but seems like you always end up in surgery and not only that but multiple surgeries. Your back is something that once it’s not right it may never be again
You can be weary of back issues, I’ve been there too; but I’d be wary as well.
BTW, why do the newspaper and magazine publishers hire chiropractors?
–To deal with the back issues.
Step 4: Go away, Stuperfife. Your new act as Trevor Bauer is already old and stale.
I can’t see how the Yankees could land Crochet without Dominguez as the starting point, and he’s been hurt most of this year. Jones isn’t good enough to be the headline prospect the Sox get in return, he reminds of Blake Rutherford, who never panned out. If the implication is that the Yankees are not willing to deal either one of their top 2 prospects and expect to land Crochet, that is fantasy land stuff for Yankees fans. Both for Crochet seems like a decent deal, ballpark. Hopefully the Sox target better and healthier prospects from other teams, I don’t see NYY as a good fit.
Keep Crochet, he’s not even close to being worth Dominguez or Spencer Jones.
Perfect take jhomeslice
Javy Baez, come on up ! The Tigers won’t skip a beat, and his absence showed he belongs as much as anyone here. I think his hitting is better than the subs that have been filling in, so hopefully a better feeling back will get him on a better trajectory at the plate.
He is up, Kreidler down. It was the worst kept secret in Tigerland.
I still think the Sox would be silly to trade Crochet or Robert.
I hear the ‘but you need to rebuild’. The simple fact is all the Sox will be doing then is continuously kicking the can down the road until that ‘perfect time’ to start trying to win. Also, if Im not mistaken, the Sox have no pick in the top ten of the draft, due to the new anti tanking rules, despite being the worst team in all of baseball (which makes me question why either Getz or Reinsdorf are good with the team being this bad).
No, the bigger issue is the jackass fossil that has mismanaged the team over the past 40+ years and spends his days with a nickel in a vice trying to squeeze as much as he can out of it.
The Sox need to keep both players.
Hope ‘The Chairman’ goes away, one way or another (which should be sooner than later).. Why he does not just sell the team, take his money and run, other than to spite the Sox fans he supposedly loves. I guess he plans to have his profits from the sale buried with him.
Get an owner into town who wants to make a splash right away and would have two good pieces (likely a few more at least pitching wise) to do it with.
I agree with you bro. I’m not sure if we should blame Getz for the terrible season. I think he gets very little to some blame, but that’s just my opinion. The team will most likely be sold sooner rather than later. JR is 88 btw. They already have a good/fine farm system(which is deeper than 2017 despite lower ranking).
Well Getz is what he is: a convenient hire. He has made some trades, and they appear OK now, but the returns are off a ways , and as for Grifol , if Im in the GM seat, he would have been gone last offseason. Its clear he has no idea how to manage a club, talented or not. How many games have this team lost due to making moves to the bullpen when the starter could go another inning, or at least 2/3s? Seeing a starter dominate the opposition only for the BP to come in and ‘royally’ screw it up? Then there are his inane comments after a game, or day before yesterday, reporting Kopech would not be available and then seeing him in the game later.
He (Grifol) has no clue how to manage a team, he wants to be everyone’s friend, like most bench coaches, the problem is, he is the manager. Every time I see him and hear him talk I am constantly reminded of Robin Ventura’s mismanagement of this team, or even Jerry Manual. But At least Jerry Manuel got his team to the playoffs once.
Rick Renteria too, but he’s nowhere near as bad as Pedro.
Renteria took a garbage team and many of these prima donnas who spend a lot of time hurt now, and made it into a playoff team. He had FAR more clout in that locker room than Grifol will ever have in any locker room. Renteria getting stabbed in the back is also what I think was a major factor in the locker room giving up on a guy like Larussa, who was completely out of touch being a manager and should have stay retired, and wrecking their window to actually do something before having to blow it up again. .
Yankees already have a pitcher, also 25, who like Garrett has thrown way more innings this year than any year prior. Know he is lefty and young, but will have to be shut down soon. Limits his value.