The Mariners’ lack of offseason spending drew the ire of the fanbase, as Seattle’s offseason dealings appeared to be as much about managing payroll as they were reshaping the team. Seattle traded away Eugenio Suarez, used Jarred Kelenic to dump the contracts of Evan White and Marco Gonzales on the Braves, made financially motivated swaps involving Robbie Ray and Mitch Haniger, and only signed three free agents to major league contracts (Mitch Garver, Ryne Stanek and Austin Voth). The series of fiscally influenced moves came amid uncertainty surrounding the future of their television contract with ROOT Sports, and while the M’s certainly weren’t alone in their hand-wringing over their broadcast rights, they were arguably impacted as heavily or more heavily than many clubs around the game.
While those uncertainties still exist, Mariners managing partner John Stanton made clear in an interview with Adam Jude and Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times that he’ll provide president of baseball operation Jerry Dipoto, general manager Justin Hollander and the rest of the front office with some financial latitude as the current AL West division leaders look to bolster their club.
“[W]e will look at the [July 30] deadline,” Stanton said. “I’ll spend time with Jerry and Justin as we approach the deadline, and we’ll talk about where we are. Jerry and Justin are 10 times smarter about what it takes to have a successful baseball team. My job is to make sure they have the resources available to get there.”
MLBTR readers are encouraged to read the interview in full, which is rife with quotes from Stanton about the Mariners’ offseason, the future of the television contract and his hope to eventually sign other young players to extensions as the club did with Julio Rodriguez. Broadly speaking, Stanton touted “substantial” financial losses amid the television situation, suggested that ROOT Sports will continue to operate independently through the 2025 season, and claimed that loss of television revenue “isn’t the reason we’ve made any decisions over the past couple years.”
Such comments will undoubtedly raise some skepticism among the fanbase, but the forward-looking takeaway is that Dipoto, Hollander & Co. will be afforded some flexibility to build upon this year’s roughly $140MM payroll. Presumably, augmenting the lineup will be the front office’s prime focus. The Seattle pitching staff is sixth in the majors in ERA and FIP. They’re fourth in SIERA. Only three teams have a better collective strikeout rate than the Mariners 23.8%, and they’re tied with the Twins for MLB’s best walk rate at 6.6%. The starting rotation appears largely set with Luis Castillo, George Kirby, Logan Gilbert, Bryce Miller and Bryan Woo — health permitting, of course. Any contending club can always deepen its bullpen, but that’s likelier to be a secondary objective.
For as excellent as Seattle’s pitching staff is, the offense has been another story entirely. The Mariners’ 230 runs scored are the fourth-fewest in baseball. That comes despite sitting ninth in the majors with 66 home runs — a testament to the general lack of baserunners their lineup has produced. The M’s rank 29th in baseball with a .222 average, 27th with a .298 OBP and 25th with a .365 slugging percentage. Seattle’s .252/.329/.401 slash with men in scoring position is actually ninth-best in baseball by measure of their 113 wRC+ … but the Mariners’ 504 plate appearances with runners in scoring position is the second-fewest in MLB, leading only the tanking White Sox (476 plate appearances with RISP).
The majority of the regulars in Seattle’s lineup have underwhelmed this season. Rodriguez, Ty France, Luke Raley and Dylan Moore have all been productive over the past month, following poor starts to the season, but that’s only boosted Rodriguez to slightly below-average production overall. France has been a bit better than average but nowhere near the offensive force he was from 2020-22. Catcher Cal Raleigh has popped a team-leading 11 homers but is hitting just .209 with a .278 on-base percentage.
What’s particularly problematic for the Mariners is that several of the weakest spots in the lineup are the ones they sought to address in the offseason. Switch-hitting second baseman Jorge Polanco was one of the American League’s steadiest hitters from 2018-23 in Minnesota, batting a combined .270/.338/.455 in nearly 2700 plate appearances. He’s hitting .195/.293/.302 for the Mariners. Haniger got out to a blistering .300/.382/.500 start through his first 68 plate appearances but has faceplanted with a .185/.234/.281 line over his past 145 trips to the plate. Garver hit .250/.346/.508 in his final 1242 plate appearances before signing a two-year deal in Seattle. He’s hitting .170/.276/.309 as the team’s primary DH.
Between Rodriguez, France, Raleigh, Polanco, Garver, Haniger, injured shortstop J.P. Crawford and others, the Mariners have the makings of a productive lineup. Almost the entire unit has underwhelmed, however, leading to far more one- and two-run victories than the club would prefer. Those offensive weaknesses could be particularly exposed in a short postseason series, when teams can more aggressively lean on their top few pitchers to cover the bulk of their innings.
An upgrade in the outfield corners, in particular, seems like a worthwhile pursuit for the Mariners — and some help at the hot corner or second base could prove sensible as well, depending on whether Polanco can turn things around. (Adding at third base could allow hot-hitting Josh Rojas to slide over to second more regularly.) But while ownership can pledge to provide sufficient resources to the baseball operations staff, at least some of the improvement is going to need to come internally.
The Mariners have too many underperforming veterans with strong track records to upgrade over on the fly this summer — many of whom (e.g. Garver, Polanco, Haniger, France) are commanding salaries of note and are signed/controlled beyond the current season. That collection of veterans has exactly eight weeks until July 30 to get back on track. It’s unlikely they all manage to do so, but the front office’s strategy will come into focus as those who are able to bounce back begin to show signs of life.
SODOMOJO
I’ll believe it when I see it. Last time we made a “splash” trade mid year to get a veteran bat it was Carlos Santana. Before that, it was Yonder Alonso. Before THAT? Never?
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
The Mariners will trade for Brent Rooker, Taylor Ward, and Bo Bichette. At least that’s my wishlist lol.
SODOMOJO
I’ll take any of the 3
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
HALF A SEASON OF PETE ALONSO HERE WE COME
mlb fan
“Any of the 3″…Bichette is the only one of those 3 I’d like to see on the M’s. I’m nor that familiar with A’s players(I think Rooker is with Oakland)and I’m just not sold on Taylor Ward and his “breakout”.
C Us Sink
Wouldn’t mind Polar Bear either. More pop with this team, usually equals wins…
mlb fan
The “Polar Bear” would be a nice “get”, if a reasonable price can be negotiated with the Mets.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
@mlb Brent Rooker is hammering the ball this season, 8th in the league in OPS.
.279/.368/.553. Ward has cooled off but figured he would cost a bit less than the other two.
C Us Sink
Bichette please. Dude can hit.
Stevil
He’s not having a great year. .238 with a .633 OPS.
I know we’re going to hear a lot of speculation over Blue Jays, especially after Passan’s recent piece, but it’s hard for me to believe Seattle will trade elite talent for the right to pay some of these guys big bucks and for just an additional year of control.
mlb fan
“He’s not having a great year”..True that, but if Dante is having his normal year he wouldn’t be available orvtge price would be ridiculous. Sometimes(if you truly believe in the player)the best time to acquire players is when they’re scuffling. I’ve seen enough of Bichette to think he’ll soon revert to his normal form.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Dante isn’t the best comp to Bo right now, actually he is in a similar situation as the polar bear
I would like bo to be on the mariners, I think he would be an above average second baseman, but at the same time I wouldn’t want to trade our top 4 prospects for him, only pull the trigger if the jays buy low
Stevil
If he’s even available, and I have doubts that he even is, Seattle would be asking BB to play a position he hasn’t played in years while coughing up an elite prospect or two to acquire him for the right to pay him 17.583m next year. If he turns things around quickly, the price will go up even further. And if he doesn’t…
I don’t think Toronto is going to sell low and Seattle hasn’t made deals like that. They take fliers, but much cheaper fliers.
Seattle already has two infielders that they’re paying well whom haven’t panned out. One is now in AAA and off the roster. Does it really make sense to take an expensive chance on another struggling infielder? I don’t think it does and I think Seattle sees it similarly.
I would guess that Seattle is still hopeful that Polanco can get it together whenever he starts his rehab assignment and be the player they were expecting. If that doesn’t happen, maybe they’ll try to shift money around (again) to find a better option, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we simply see a lot of Rojas and Moore manning 2B and 3B respectively.
I hope we see Seattle push in some chips and splurge. I think we’ll likely see something creative with contracts swapped, relievers sold, and a prospect or two moved. But I also think they will focus on long-term help as much as the short-term.
deepseamonster32
You forgot Al Martin
SODOMOJO
Getting Vince Coleman mid year was a big move a little before that
deepseamonster32
Don’t forget Dave Hollins, acquired for David Arias, who was never heard of again after he changed his last name to Ortiz….
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Please don’t remind us. Now I have to go hit the bottle. (At least M’s don’t need starting pitching, so I don’t have nitemares about Mike Leake and Erik Bedard.) Remember when the M’s traded for Kevin Mitchell ??
C Us Sink
Lol
C Us Sink
Paul Sorrento I believe was a deadline acquisition in 94 or 95 from Cleveland. Sorrento was decent if memory serves.
hoof hearted
No ire from this long time M’s fan. I get what JD is doing by not spending big $. Strategic spending.
Go Go Power Rangers
Yeah but his strategic spending could cost them the division. Again. No team is doing particularly well at the moment. The Mariners need to actually go for it while they have the advantage.
Reynaldo's
Let him cook; deadline isn’t even here yet. They will make moves like in years past.
mlb fan
“While they have the advantage”…I tend to agree. The Mariners should strike while their division opponents are scuffling or injured.
myaccount2
Power Rangers- We’re two months away from the deadline. I’d say the strategic spending is paying off now. 10th best record in baseball (30-19 since a 4-8 start, too) with room to make moves. The M’s have the pitching staff–when healthy– to compete with anyone and the depth to still hang around, cause difficulty for opponents, and potentially get lucky when its top guys are hurt, as has been the case this year with Brash and Santos appearing in a collective zero games.
deepseamonster32
DiPoto and Hollander don’t set the budget; Stanton does.
Blackpink in the area
Last year they sold at the deadline then watched the Rangers go on to win the division by 1 game and win a championship. Probably don’t want to do that again.
bobby clementhay
Technically, the Astros won the division…
Blackpink in the area
Ok might have that mixed up. I know they were only a game behind yeah all 3 teams were in it until the last few days of the season.
pd14athletics
2 out of the last 3 trade deadlines, the Mariners sold. The year they were buyers, they broke their tragically long playoff drought.
2021 – trade away bullpen force Kendall Graveman to division rival
2022 – trade for Luis Castillo, make playoffs!
2023 – trade away closer who ends up in WS, barely miss playoffs
Can’t imagine how brutal it must feel in clubhouse to be battling for a playoff spot and see a key teammate traded away for a prospect.
I hope to see Mariners go for it this year. It’s a bit early, but I’m going to guess a Pete Alonso trade.
deepseamonster32
They sold, but the upgrade at 2nd with Rojas arguably made up for losing Sewald. They may have improved.
pd14athletics
I respect the buy low on Rojas. He had a poor start to 2023 with AZ and rebounded to be above average with Mariners. And that’s not touching on being a nice piece this year. Still though, the point sticks for 2023. A slightly above average Rojas was offset by losing a critical bullpen piece late in the season for 2023. We will never know what Mariners would have done had they done just staying pat with roster, much less upgrading. But we do know they had some brutal late losses because of the bullpen. We won’t know what they would have done with him, but we do know what Rangers did in a similar boat.
letsplaytwo
You trade Sewald for Rojas, Canzone, and Bliss EVERY TIME!
Sewald choked in Game 1 of the playoffs against the Astros by hitting the #9 batter with Altuve, Pena, and Yordan due up. He allowed six earned runs in three innings in that series!
Zissou
I’m still happy with that trade.
Kassiedog
Thank you H H, finally a Mariner’s fan who thinks with a brain and not a heart! J&J have done a marvelous job with the resources afforded them and have built the best young rotation in baseball as well as a farm very deep in talented young position players.
CBeisbol
“Seattle’s .252/.329/.401 slash with men in scoring position is actually ninth-best in baseball by measure of their 113 wRC+”
LOL
It’s the dream team of all the guys who think that hitting with runners in scoring position is a thing and a thing that teams should try to seek out.
Well, you gotta get some hits without runners in scoring position too
timmygee
I laugh when I hear about the financial situation the Mariners are in. The organization is mismanaged. My ’23 season ticket price increased followed by an additional 25% increase for 2024! Talk about inflation! There is plenty of money floating around despite all the bs coming outta the front office The food costs at T-Mobile are off the charts and people cannot afford to buy anything other than the crappy things they pass off as a hot dog. Buy dinner and some average seats and it costs a family of four $400!! Put an awesome product on the field and watch the advertising dollars take care of a lot of financial issues. That $400 evening becomes a little more tolerable.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
I can’t sit in the 200 level and go to 13 coins across the street anymore thanks to inflation
Part of it is the inflation but I feel like there has to be some greed to use inflation or tv rights as an excuse, just look at McDonald’s
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Mariners are top 15 in revenue made so they should be top 15 in payroll
30 Parks
Pete Alonso.
Yankee Clipper
Anyone else miss the Yankees-Mariners brawls of the 90s? They were epic…
Olericat
Trader Jerry gets to deal….
solaris602
If they land Alonso, who goes the other way?
theknuckler
Pitching , Pitching and more Pitching
YaGottaBelieveAgain
NYM would probably ask for Bryan Woo or Bryce Miller SEA would decline
If NYM offered Alonso and Marte or JD Martinez I’d ask for Woo and 1 other top 100 prospect. (OF or P)
CUB, HOU, CLE, MIN, MIL, DET SF, StL, CIN maybe TB might be interested in Alonso or Marte or JD Mart individually at the right price of course
C Us Sink
I’d almost be certain NYM would ask for Bryce Miller. I’m sure Ms say no, and agree with YaGotta, Woo would definitely be involved in a deal for sure. Woo, maybe Clase, and Bliss, and other pitching??
MartialArtisan
I’m hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst. I just don’t think there is any reason to trust anything John Stanton says at this point. Does anyone really believe him when he says “claimed that loss of television revenue “isn’t the reason we’ve made any decisions over the past couple years.”?
I haven’t seen too many reasons to have much faith in this ownership group.
Old York
Good news for my prediction that the M’s will be in the 2024 World Series.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
We are 3 bats shy and need our bullpen to get healthier
I think we go through one more mini rebuild and then contend
solaris602
If I’m in the FO job one right now is figuring out a way to get Haniger off the roster. His contract is what it is, but it wouldn’t be too difficult to put someone in his roster spot who is more productive.
ballgawd
Sell the team $tanton!!
AlienBob
The opponents are just going to pitch around one good bat. The guys they have need to produce. The affordable help is in the farm system and mostly in the low minors. It would be a shame to trade the future for a rental bat. If Julio doesn’t hit, “Forget about it.”
C Us Sink
They’d better pursue upgrades at this time of year. They’re usually 500 or below this time of year after Memorial Day, so if ownership had any decent mush between their ears with their historic starting pitching staff, they’d better do something.
Stevil
This is exactly what we’ve come to expect to hear from Stanton. The problem is that he hasn’t honored his promises, and a question I have–if they’re given the financial resources to really go for it–is how added salary would affect future budgets.
Worth noting, since the rebuild, we’ve seen Seattle sell high from areas of strength mid-season (catcher, and especially the bullpen). What we haven’t see are trades for star rental bats, or anyone with significant salaries the following year. We haven’t seen any truly elite prospects traded, either.
It’s too early to know much regarding available players because only a handful of teams are likely out of contention, but I would imagine there will be an effort to move salary, perhaps in a contract swap, along with prospects.
For the record, I’m not opposed to trading prospects. I’d only have a few off-limits. That reminds me, Logan Evans was moved to the bullpen today. He is on the fast-track to Seattle and it appears they will groom him for a late-innings or multi-innings role relatively soon, so he’s probably not a prospect they anticipate moving.
Cole Young might be the most likely to go. He headlines an area of prospect strength (and the entire farm)….and has a potential flaw.
solaris602
The first step is knowing that anything the White Sox make available is fools gold except maybe Pham. I’m in favor of targeting Alonso even though he’s a rental – change of scenery will jack him. Sending Ty France their way in a return will probably lessen the requirement for blue chip minors talent.
Stevil
Pete Alonso in May: .234/.293/.439; 110 wRC+; 4 HRs
Ty France in May: .278/.352/.474; 142 wRC+; 5 HRs
sillywabbit
Hitters struggle at T-Mobile. How many players have to come here and see their numbers tank before fans will admit this? Polanco, Garver, Raley? They don’t come close to the back of their baseball cards. It’s the park.
larkraxm
Maybe a player like Jazz Chisholm is a better fit for the team and the park.
lee cousins
I would be surprise if we see any significant moves. There will be those trades who fly under the radar that being said, opens up taken chances with having success with them but some improvement if gained would be better than none.
Dogham
If Stanton and the others involved in ownership can’t afford to be competitive they need to sell the team to someone who can.
C Us Sink
They aren’t trying to be competitive, they’re trying to make profits. Completely agree with your thought though.