When the Phillies announced a four-year extension with young left-hander Cristopher Sanchez yesterday, president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski revealed to reporters (including Matt Gelb of The Athletic) that the deal isn’t one they would have considered making if Sanchez and his agent, Gene Mato, hadn’t approached him about the possibility of a long-term deal. Even at that point, Dombrowski noted that he had some reservations about negotiating in-season.
“As much as we’d love to have him, during the middle of the season, it’s not normally something that I would like to get into,” Dombrowski said, as relayed by Gelb. “Because it can be a distraction for the player.”
Fortunately, the extension talks didn’t take very long as Gelb notes that it took just one week of negotiations before the sides settled on the four-year, $22.5MM guarantee with two club options that could extend the club’s window of control over Sanchez through the end of the 2030 campaign. The smooth negotiations between Dombrowski and Sanchez’s camp appear to have been crucial in pushing the deal across the finish line given the Phillies’ stated concerns that a protracted negotiation process could become a distraction from the season at hand.
That apparent trepidation with regards to in-season extensions could serve as a clue for how the Phillies will approach left-hander Ranger Suarez, who Gelb notes the Phillies have interest in extending. Suarez is currently slated to hit free agency following the 2025 season, but Gelb notes that talks have yet to progress between the sides and appear likely to wait until after the 2024 campaign has concluded. For his part, Dombrowski noted that the club “love[s]” Suarez and that they “hope that he’s part of the organization for a long time,” but also declined to discuss the state of negotiations with the lefty.
If the Phillies want to extend Suarez, it’s sure to come with a much heftier price tag than the Sanchez extension. Sanchez’s deal is more or less in line with the low end of what pitchers in his service time bracket have received in extensions, just ahead of the $18.8MM guarantee the Red Sox gave to right-hander Garrett Whitlock but a far cry from the $50M+ guarantees afforded to Boston’s Brayan Bello and Cincinnati’s Hunter Greene. Suarez, who will be just one year from free agency this offseason, is in a completely different realm of contract expectations.
The two hurlers to sign extensions with just one year to go before free agency in recent memory are Mariners right-hander Luis Castillo and Blue Jays right-hander Jose Berrios, both of whom did so shortly after being dealt to new teams the previous summer. Castillo signed a $108MM guarantee over five years with Seattle, while Berrios signed in Toronto on a seven-year deal that guaranteed him $131MM. Both hurlers had a much longer track record of success in the starting rotation at the time of their extensions than Suarez, who didn’t become a full-time starting pitcher until the 2022 season.
On the other hand, however, Suarez has undeniably been more dominant than either hurler in the years leading up to the start of extension negotiations. The lefty has pitched to a 2.91 ERA (142 ERA+) with a 3.39 FIP in 478 2/3 innings of work since the start of the 2021 season. That eclipses the work of both Berrios (118 ERA+, 3.78 FIP) and Castillo (132 ERA+, 3.43 FIP) on a rate basis in their final four years before signing, though both Castillo and Berrios had 120+ additional innings of work over that same timeframe. Much of Suarez’s ultimate price tag will surely depend on how he finishes the 2024 campaign; the lefty currently leads all of MLB with an incredible 1.75 ERA through 15 starts this year and figures to find himself in the thick of the Cy Young conversation at year’s end if he can keep anything close to this production up over a full year.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
If the vote was today, Ranger gets the Cy Young, no doubt.
gbs42
If the vote was today, that would be sad because it would mean the season is over.
Melchez17
DD belongs in the Hall of Fame. The guy builds winners.
User 4245925809
Talent comes fully to light when given a budget. Look no further than big spending Tigers/Boston and now Philly. He’s 1 of few makes generally smart FA moves, tho some of his trades have gone sour.. Fast in the past.
Hopefully he’s fully appreciated in Philly and given a good budget, not ran out like in boston when henry started getting tight.
mlb fan
“The guy builds winners”..The “Dom” is a HOFer in waiting who’s won everywhere he’s been. He’s arguably the most successful MLB GM in history. You really cannot be more of a HOF lock than Dave Dombrowski and the way he was treated in Boston was shameful.
DaLou
Does the name Pat Gillick not ring a bell? Before Dave there was Pat. He actually had the talent that won the world series for Philly back in 2008. Dombrowski is a good GM and can be in the same conversation but there are many best of successful GMs for the Phillies that need to be in this conversation.
This one belongs to the Reds
They might be a large market, but still smart management to lock talented young kids up. There are a lot of teams that should do the same.
Rsk3228
Now they need to work on Bohm and Stott. Lock them up.
Seahawks19081
I feel one of the two of those guys is not going to be here long. The Phillies are strong in the infield, system wide. I know that prospects are a crap shoot, but they love Aiden Miller and Starlyn Cabra, both middle infielders. With Turner, who I think is going to end up at second, locked in forever, I have a feeling Stott is going to be the odd man out.
mlb fan
“Not going to be here long”…I agree but I don’t think it’s by choice. It’s more a factor of Philly already investing so much money in Wheeler, Nola, Walker, Turner & Harper. You literally cannot keep everyone and sign them to market rate deals in MLB. It just doesn’t work in baseball, because successful teams need some inexpensive, cost controlled young players to offset many of the expensive long term deals.
kje76
Honestly, Walker is mostly a non-factor in that list. He’s only on the books for 2025 and 2026, and is only at $18M. Too much, and mind-blowing to us, but not crippling to a top-flight MLB team.
gww4488
Not likely, Harper and Stott are close friends and grew up in the same neighborhood, Stott isnt going anywhere.Miller isn’t expected to hit the majors til mid-26 at earliest and Caba probably 2027-28. They will likely move Stott back to SS, and Turner to CF or 2B at some point, and Miller may be a 3B/SS or shifted to the biggest need at that moment. Castellanos, Schwarber & JT will have their deals be up before Miller arrives .
MLB Top 100 Commenter
If I were a Phanatic, I would rather extend Ranger Suarez.
Garett
Agreed but signing a young lefty who has had a lot of success last two years to 22.5 million guaranteed deal is a no brainer in the market these days.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I meant to indicate that I would want to extend Ranger Suarez and Christopher Sanchez (as done) as a priority over extending Bohm and Stott.
This one belongs to the Reds
Manny, if they lock up all four, two on each end, that a nice young core to keep building around the next few years.
Samuel
DD goes straight into the Hall when he retires.
What he’s done in Philadelphia is capping a remarkable career. He created an organization that coaches up all players they have under contract. He doesn’t hold onto a player that isn’t making strides forward. The entire organization – players, coaches, scouts, analysts, the broadcasters – everyone is on the same wavelength…..and everyone is enjoying themselves and getting better at what they do. Philly fans are the most rabid I’ve seen from all the cities broadcasts on MLB.TV. Put the myth to bed about Philly fans being demanding, sarcastic, and mean (as most posters here are…..see below) – they gave Trea Turner a standing ovation after months of a slump last year. That turned him around.
DD has simply done a miraculous job…..and don’t give me crap about “He just spent money on free agents” – actually he let some go and the 4-5 that are doing quite well are hardly the only reason they’re winning.
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On that note:
Saw a comment under a Red Sox article a week ago. A poster listed all the young Red Sox players – 10 or 12 – that DD left in their farm system that are now up and producing. What’s funny was I read hundreds of posts here from irate Red Sox fans for years here claiming that DD had left nothing in the farm system when his Sox won a Championship, so he deserved to be fired by the owner.
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Most popular narratives in America the past 10-15 years don’t stand the test of time. It’s a country in decline that belittles accomplishment and celebrates ineptitude as long as those involved some some sort of gimmick that’s supposed to be style.
JoeBrady
DD has simply done a miraculous job….
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This is still Klentak’s team
Klentak’s guys
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Wheeler
Nola
Suarez
Sanchez
Realmuto
Harper
Stott
Bohm
DD’s guys are:
Soso (for Romero)
Hoffman (waivers)
Marsh (for O’Hoppe)
Turner, Schwarber, Castellanos Walker, Strahm & Merrifield for $100M
Objectively, what are the big wins for DD? Their four top rotation guys and four of their best position players were Klentak guys.
bergeraj
He signed Wheeler Nola JT and Sanchez to long term deals so he’s kept the good ones. Only horrible signing is Walker.
JoeBrady
He’s kept them, but we don’t know what the return on the new extensions will be. In the other contracts
Schwarber 8.4 bWAR in 2.5 seasons
Castellanos 1.5 in 2.5 seasons
Turner 5.0 in 1.5 seasons
Just for fun, if you were starting a team, would you want the Klentak 8 or the DD 9? I don’t see it as being particularly close.
Churchill’s Pancakes
@Joe The Klentak regime seemed to lack a clear direction. Hoskins had a really nice rookie season and their move that offseason was to sign Santana and move Hoskins to LF. I appreciate Hoskins for what he is but the man has a stone glove and lead shoes. I’m also not going to give him too much credit for signing Harper. Any GM with a checkbook would’ve signed him in a heartbeat.
That said, they did make some good moves that have worked out in the long run. I’d still rather have Dombrowski at the helm than Klentak though. There was no cohesion in the Klentak era. Dombrowski has added the complimentary support pieces and hasn’t had to sell the farm to do it.
There will be tough choices to make on who to keep and at what price but for now I’m enjoying the ride.
JoeBrady
Dombrowski has added the complimentary support pieces
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People think I’m kidding, but this is his strength-convincing owners to spend. If you are at .500 and $200M, you might as well be at .475 and $160M or .550 and $240M.
mlb fan
“Convincing owners to spend”…What do you think DD is, some sort of pied piper, sorcerer or svengali?…Billionaires in general are not exactly stupid, gullible people who spend their lives being led around by the nose. When a team owner brings in a Dave Dombrowski to run operations, he’s already decided to “spend”, because everyone in baseball knows the Dombrowski reputation.
gww4488
I think you’re giving Klentak too much credit. He inherited Nola and Ranger. He drafted Moniak #1 overall, Adam Haseley #7 overall, + Bohm #3 overall, but in 2019, Middleton was the driving force behind signing Harper& Wheeler, drafting Stott. Klentak did land JT via trade, but if he would have not made Sixto Sanchez “untouchable” the year before , he could have had JT & Yelich for Sanchez , Alfaro, N.Williams & Altherr. He also paid Arrieta a huge deal and had the worst BP in baseball every year he was here.
all in the suit that you wear
Samuel: “all the young Red Sox players – 10 or 12 – that DD left in their farm system that are now up and producing”
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Dombrowski was in Boston for the 2016-2019 drafts and the international signings during that time. Looking at those drafts and international signing periods, I see the following left behind from Dombrowski that have come up to the Red Sox and produced:
Houck (2017 draft)
Crawford (2017 draft)
Bello (2017 international signing)
Rafaela (2017 international signing)
Casas (2018 draft)
So, it is really only 5, not 10-12 unless I am missing someone. Is 5 good? I guess it is ok. I am happy Dombrowski traded a lot of prospects and won the World Series in 2018 and I would do it again. I think John Henry and Dombrowski were not on the same page in 2019 where they had the highest player payroll in baseball and were a big disappointment (84-78 record). I think John Henry saw the Rays win 96 games in 2019 and decided to hire someone from the Rays (Chaim Bloom). The Red Sox continue to spend over $200M each year on player payroll which should be more than enough to field a very competitive team. I think they are trying to draft and develop and field a team largely from within. It looks to me like they didn’t think Dombrowski was the man to lead this organizational change in 2019. Dombrowski is a great baseball mind for sure.
all in the suit that you wear
*saw the Rays win 96 games in 2019 while spending much less money than the Red Sox
JoeBrady
That’s about right. We were 1st in payroll, last in farm, and a .500 team. That screams out for a rebuild. I don’t think that’s DD’s forte.
This one belongs to the Reds
Reds should have hired a knowledgeable GM like DD when they had a chance instead of a cheap in house promotion.
That kind of thinking explains the last 30 years without a playoff series win.
JoeBrady
This one belongs to the Reds9 hours ago
Reds should have hired a knowledgeable GM like DD
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The Reds are 25th in payroll.
MLBTR needs to hire editors
Nick Deeds really started a sentence with “on the other hand, however?” Redundant much?