The Blue Jays are obviously not having the season they envisioned in 2024. The club played at a 90-win pace over the previous four years, making the playoffs in three of those seasons and falling just one game short in 2021. But here in 2024, they are 21-26, last in the East and ahead of just the Athletics, Angels and White Sox in the American League standings.
The Playoff Odds at FanGraphs currently give them a 17.9% of getting into the postseason, though the PECOTA Standings at Baseball Prospectus are more bullish and still give the Jays a 30% shot. A sudden hot streak could certainly change those numbers in a hurry, but as the sand keeps falling through the hourglass, the club will have to think about how they handle a summer where they are unexpectedly out of contention.
Right-hander Kevin Gausman didn’t mince his words when assessing the situation yesterday, per Rob Longley of The Toronto Sun. “The reality is if we don’t play well, this team will not be together for much longer,” Gausman said. “It might make another year. It might make another year and a half. It might make a couple of months. That’s just the reality.”
There are various ways to play things when dealt a hand like that. Last year’s Cardinals, for instance, decided to only trade away impending free agents and keep the core intact for another shot at contention in 2024. They flipped impending free agents Jack Flaherty, Jordan Montgomery, Chris Stratton, Jordan Hicks and Paul DeJong to add some younger players to the system but kept most of the roster in place, then added to it by signing veterans like Sonny Gray, Kyle Gibson and Lance Lynn.
If the Jays were to take that path, their impending free agents are Yusei Kikuchi, Justin Turner, Kevin Kiermaier, Yimi García, Daniel Vogelbach, Danny Jansen and Trevor Richards. Kikuchi had a 3.86 earned run average last year and is down to 2.64 this year, so he would certainly have interest. García is striking out 35.3% of batters faced this year and has a 0.47 ERA. Richards has a 2.91 ERA and 29.4% strikeout rate. Trading catchers is a bit tricky midseason because of the challenges of learning a new pitching staff, but Jansen hits enough that he could appeal to a club looking for a guy to serve as a designated hitter and occasional backup catcher. Kiermaier isn’t hitting much this year but could certainly make for a glove-first fourth outfielder on a contending club. Turner and Vogelbach aren’t having great years and would need to get hot to have some trade value.
Even with trading Kikuchi, the club could go into 2025 with a strong starting rotation to build around. Gausman, José Berríos, Chris Bassitt and Alek Manoah are still under contract or club control next year, as are Yariel Rodríguez, Bowden Francis, Ricky Tiedemann and Adam Macko.
The larger and more difficult questions for the Jays will involve looking deeper into the future. They have a large number of players who are set to be free agents after 2025, with Vladimir Guerrero Jr. and Bo Bichette being the most notable, though the list also includes Bassitt, Jordan Romano, Chad Green, Isiah Kiner-Falefa, Cavan Biggio, Tim Mayza, Erik Swanson and Génesis Cabrera.
Mark Feinsand of MLB.com recently explored the idea of Bichette and Guerrero being available and asked an anonymous executive about it. “I don’t think they’re opposed to it,” the executive said of the Jays. “They’ve talked to teams about it. The asks were ridiculous, but I think they’re going to try to retool a lot, and using those guys to get pieces may be the way to do it.”
There’s nothing necessarily surprising in that. Front office members discuss all kinds of trade scenarios that never come to fruition. Given where the Jays are in the standings, it’s logical that general manager Ross Atkins and his team would explore their options. And it’s also sensible that they would set a massive asking price with still over two months until the deadline.
Whether they pull the trigger on a deal for Guerrero or Bichette or both will depend on various factors. The club’s record here in 2024 would obviously be one factor, as would the organization’s perspective on their chances at another shot at contention in 2025. Naturally, the kinds of offers being put on the table will also be significant and it’s fair to wonder what kind of shape they would take right about now.
Bichette hit .299/.340/.487 in the past five seasons for a 127 wRC+ but is slashing just .226/.284/.327 here in 2024, which translates to a 77 wRC+. He has lowered his strikeout rate to 14.8%, which would be a career low by a significant margin, but he has just two home runs so far. His .257 batting average on balls in play is well below the .349 mark he carried into the year but he’s also not squaring the ball up like before. His 4.2% barrel rate this year is less than half his career clip of 9.4%. His exit velocity and hard hit rates still look comparable to previous years, so rival clubs would undoubtedly have interest in acquiring Bichette and getting a bounceback, but the Jays wouldn’t exactly be selling high if these kinds of numbers hold for the next few months.
Guerrero’s not in a hole like Bichette, as he’s slashing .279/.374/.385 for the year. He only has four home runs but is drawing walks at a 12.6% rate. His overall offensive production translates to a 123 wRC+. That’s nothing to sneeze at but it’s also not the elite production he showed back in 2021, when he hit 48 home runs and slashed .311/.401/.601, and it just barely cracks the top ten among qualified first basemen in the league this year. Given the gap between his ceiling and his current performance, perhaps the offers from other clubs won’t match up with what the Jays are expecting.
There’s also the public relations question of whether the club wants to send out the two players who have been the collective faces of the franchise since before they even made it to the major leagues. There are some players putting up intriguing numbers in Triple-A Buffalo this year, with each of Addison Barger, Nathan Lukes, Spencer Horwitz, Steward Berroa, Leo Jimenez, Will Robertson and Orelvis Martinez currently having a 112 wRC+ or higher in more than 100 plate appearances this year. Perhaps there’s an argument for opening up playing time for some of the guys in that group, but none of them have the same level of prospect pedigree nor the name recognition of Guerrero or Bichette, making it a questionable move from both a roster construction angle and a PR point of view.
Perhaps the Jays won’t get an offer that’s enticing enough to make them cross this threshold. Maybe they keep the gang together for another shot in 2025. Perhaps they go on a hot streak and make this all moot. After all, they are only 3.5 games back of a playoff spot at this moment.
But if they stay on the fringes of the race, they have some tricky decisions to make. Trading rentals would be the easy part if they stay behind the rest of the Wild Card pack. Whether to move on to guys with extra control will be a trickier decision. It would likely reduce the club’s chances in 2025 but could be their best path to restocking their farm system, depending on what kind of offers they get. With so many players set to hit free agency either this year or next, there would surely be some temptation to infuse the system with young and controllable talent at this year’s deadline, if the opportunity to do so is there.
They would also free up a bit of payroll space in the process. Bichette is making $11MM this year and will make $16.5MM next year. Guerrero is making $19.9MM this year and will be set for a raise via arbitration into the $25-30MM range next year. The Jays could then pivot to the free agent market, as they don’t have a massive amount on the long-term books. Only Gausman, Berríos, Rodríguez and George Springer are under contract past 2025. By 2027, Berríos is the only significant contract on the books. His deal only goes through 2028 and he can also opt out after 2026.
Taking all of that into account, it will be an important summer for the Blue Jays. In the months to come, the games on the field and the conversations taking place off of it will undoubtedly be playing a huge role in the future of the franchise.
TradeAcuna
Both the Jays and Braves need to retool badly.
Appalachian_Outlaw
The Braves do not need to retool. It is May, relax. Atlanta will be fine.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
I haven’t given a rats back end about Toronto for years now, and I still don’t give a rats back end. I’m just glad I don’t drive a truck in Canada
darthdragula
Yeah it’s rough driving a truck in Canada. Gotta dodge all the moose and beavers and igloos that are wandering around everywhere.
NoSaint
@darthdragula
The igloos have stopped wandering. They’ve become ambush predators:o)
terrymesmer
Yeah, we had a problem with truckers (some armed) coming into Canada to lay seige to our cities because they got vaccine information from Alex Jones. So stay the F away.
Thomas Walker
And your parents should have just acquired a cat. They had no idea 13 years ago what they were doing to the rest of us. Absolute turd of a human being.
TradeAcuna
I mean if that keeps you at ease, then sure, but this team is boring to watch. Their two best pitchers are two guys they traded for. Fried needs to go and Morton is not reliable anymore. That fifth spot is basically laughable and quite sad they are unable to fill the spot internally. Goes to show how terrible the farm is. Offensively, they will get going, but they are in need for changes. Let’s not pretend Acuna is not a problem. He is back to striking out a bunch, which reflects how much of a fluke last year was. Just one great season for a guy people keep pretending is a top 5 player in the game. The Braves won a ring without him which speaks volume. If this team falls apart by the deadline, please trade him.
charlesk
Who’d they trade to Boston for Chris Sale and $17 million to pay his salary this year?
What about Aaron Bummer?
Reynaldo López was available to all 30 teams as a FA. Anthopoulos signed him.
NationalNightmare
As a fan of a truly losing team, we’ll take that bum Acuna off your hands.
Appalachian_Outlaw
Acuna is NOT a problem. I don’t even know where to begin addressing this ridiculous idea you have that, somehow, they’d be better without him. It’s ludicrous! You don’t trade a player with that type of talent, on that type of deal. Any GM that does, regardless of who they are, should be immediately fired. If they weren’t, as a fan, I would immediately just quit following the team.
The fact that you think he should be traded is one of the all-time WORST takes ever posted on here.
Just everything you said is wrong. Literally everything. You managed an entire comment of sheer nonsense.
Rsox
9 games over .500 says the Braves are doing just fine
Fever Pitch Guy
Rsox – That new lefty pitcher they got, tall and skinny, seems to be carrying the team. Where do they find all these great players?
Rsox
AA is great at fleecing other teams
coloredpaper
I still cry about that day that the organization chose Shapiro over AA…
Druuu
“Do we want to finish 20 or 30 games out of first place?”
Ted
The Jays of 1998-2014 were mired in 80-88 win purgatory because they always had super stars (Clemens and Shawn Green, or Carlos Delgado and Roy Halladay, or Jose Bautista) and a lot of really good players to support them, but never all at the same time. Rather than burn it down, they kept trying to fix it by adding a Troy Glaus or AJ Burnett or David Wells.
This team needs a bigger shakeup aimed at the end of the Orioles current generation of arbitration years. Yes that’s 5 years from now. But it beats 5 years of winning 82 games.
hiflew
Except now is much different than 1998-2014. Back then, that number of wins would leave you close but no cigar. Now, 88 wins every year will likely get you into the playoffs almost every season. The Diamondbacks made the WS last year with 84 wins.
Burning it all down is not a guarantee of anything except 5 years of losing. I might not even be alive in 5 years, so why should I continue to support a team that doesn’t care about anything until then?
Fever Pitch Guy
hiflew – You are 100% correct of course. The mentality of some people here who are always so quick to give up and want to blow up teams is a sad commentary on how they handle adversity. They apparently don’t follow baseball close enough to realize how quickly a team can turn things around, So many teams have done it.
And yep, no guarantees of success after 5 years of a full rebuild.
30 Parks
True, Ted. Jays rarely trade talent with a timely rebuild in mind – Rios & Wells come to mind. Odd parallels, at present, with the Leafs & Jays. I wonder if Mitch Marner can hit? Wait, no, he can’t, he’s afraid of hitting.
Appalachian_Outlaw
Given it just hasn’t clicked for the Jays, if your ownership, do you want this front office making the call as to what you’d be trading Bichette and/or Guerrero for?
georgebell 2
Launch them into lake Ontario. They were supposed to build a pipeline of prospects not pay full freight for 4/5 of the pitching staff.
coloredpaper
Yeah, built a pipeline of prospects that’s ranked pretty low in all of the majors…
charlesk
Bottom third farm system on MLB Pipeline for three consecutive years… and that was before the injuries to top pitching prospects Ricky Tiedemann, Brandon Barriera and Landon Maroudis, plus the regression by Chad Dallas and Arjun Nimmala getting demoted from Single-A to the development squad.
jimmertee
Yes the Jays need a rebuild, not a retool.
Shapiro and Atkins are not the executives to do it unless the fans want the same poor results that have been shown over the past 7 years.
Change needs to start at the top. Shapiro out as president of basbeball operations and move him to head up business and finance and renovations. Atkins must go. Atkins doesn’t appear to be able to evaluate talent as well as a Anthopulos or Dombrowski.
The next step is to trade all pending free agents except Jano if they can sign him. I would also solicit offers on any other player as well and see if a haul can be had. Only three non-tradeables in my mind: Berrios, Vladdy, and Orelvis Martinez.
bigdaddyt
Blow it up start a retool cause your not winning anything with this lineup
Blackpink in the area
What can they really do? If they wanted to sell come July they have Kikuchi to trade for sure. Jansen has some value. But the other soon to be free agents aren’t worth much at all.
Bichette they could get something decent back for. But Guerrero is making huge money and isn’t any good he’s not worth much at all. He very well could not be worth offering arbitration to. Romano isn’t pitching well.
They don’t have a lot of assets. And they really don’t have a lot of young talent.
I don’t know. It doesn’t look good for the Jays long term.
Canuckleball
As the article mentioned, Yimi Garcia is likely going to be a coveted relief arm at the deadline, given he’s currently one of the best high leverage arms in the majors so far this year. He’s the guy they trade from the bullpen. Also possibly Richards.
At this point though, the Jays really need a few more of their kids to come up and surprise (like Davis Schneider did)
jdgoat
Yimi will get a good return. Sure he’s a rental reliever. But if they are out of it, he will be the best rental bullpen arm on the market.
JoeBrady
But Guerrero is making huge money and isn’t any good he’s not worth much at all.
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If there is one constant across all sports, for every disappointment, there is a GM that thinks they are the guy that can turn that player around.
Someone will pay because they want to look smarter than everyone else.
Blackpink in the area
Signing a free agent hoping he bounces back is one thing. But Guerrero is an arbitration eligible player. This guy is getting giant arb salaries because 1 year he was really good.
ohyeadam
Wanted the Twins to grab Kikuchi from them last offseason to help replace Sonny/Maeda. Maybe it will happen at the deadline
jaysfan77
I hope they don’t wait too long like the last window, and got nothing for guys like Donaldson. I’d try and keep Bichette and Jansen, but if they wanted to give Bichette 300million they would have already I would think, and you’d want a deal on Jano, so, he’s probably going to test free agency at this point. For me, they can trade a few key pieces away and likely do very well, keep payroll simple, see who performs, then augment with FA’s. Like the article stated some guys are ready for a look from AAA, and guys like Clement, Schneider, etc look capable.
I don’t mind Shapiro at all, but Atkins, I mean, the guy is a kind of a tool. I’m still allowing him to make trades this year if they don’t rebound, but he should be gone in the offseason if not.
NoSaint
@jaysfan77
Not extending Jansen would be a huge mistake.
jaysfan77
Ya, I don’t see Kirk holding up well. Jansen is injury prone, but def underrated
NoSaint
@jaysfan77
I suspect many of us would be injury prone if we were to take 95mph pitches off our hands. Thankfully he’s wearing a guard now. That will greatly reduce the chances of injury.
Johnny utah
Blue jays had alot of youth these past few yrs
A title run didnt pan out
Bichette & vladdy are disappointments but still have alot of value in trade market
Time to start over
Hank Murphy
I agree, as long as step one is a new front office.
HarryO
Hard to take any team seriously that uses Vogelbach as their primary
left-hand DH. The guy can’t play the field, rarely gets on base, and when he does they have to replace him with a pinch runner because he can’t run the bases. Talk about a drain on a roster. And Brandon Belt is still looking for a job?!
terrymesmer
Don’t overstate it. Vogelbach has just 51 PA in 49 games.
LordD99
Not sure the choices are difficult at all. This group simply has not clicked. Time to move on.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
No franchise would want to do this, but Toronto could become the next Baltimore in 6-7 years:
Fire Shapiro and atkins (replace him with Chaim bloom at least bloom can run a farm system)
Trade away EVERYTHING, send money to teams to get maximum prospect return
If there are random AAA callups that are good but not franchise star good, trade them for prospects
Constantly get prospects through the draft and also acquire international money if you can
Toronto becomes a super team in the 2030s
Canuckleball
I don’t think that’s likely. The organization just spent 2 years and a boatload of money to redo their ballpark. They did so with the expectation of increased fan attendance.
They can’t spend the next 3 or 4 years putting a triple A roster on the field. They’ll barely get anyone to show up.
I expect them to try some sort of retool/reload, similar to the Cardinals of last year, although obviously they’ll hope for better results.
Fever Pitch Guy
Canuck – I totally agree! First and foremost Toronto is a hockey town, always has been and always will be. Without success on the field the Jays attendance craters. I still remember Doc’s last home game in a Jays jersey, the attendance was beyond sad for such a momentous occasion.
I think the manager and his no-fun style has a lot to do with the team’s recent performance. Baseball should feel like a game to players, it shouldn’t feel like a job. Banning the homerun jacket was one of the worst off the field decisions I’ve ever seen a manager make.
DarkSide830
The 2023-24 Cardinals hardly seem like the formula to follow.
Blackpink in the area
The Cardinals have an old team. The Jays aren’t really old at all. Guerrero and Bichette are right in the middle of their physical prime. Goldschmidt and Arenado are most definitely not.
Canuckleball
The Jays have the fifth oldest position player group and fifth oldest pitching staff.
The Cards currently have the 19th oldest position player group and the second oldest pitching staff.
The Jays 2 cornerstone guys may be youngish, but the bulk of the team gets the early bird special before heading back to the retirement home.
Blackpink in the area
Yeah I guess they do have a lot of old guys. I think their are similarities with the Cardinals for sure.
charlesk
The Blue Jays have the 5th oldest roster in baseball, with an average age of 29.8. They have a bloated, top ten payroll of $228 million for their 26-man MLB roster, but haven’t extended ANY of their homegrown core of Danny Jansen, Bo Bichette, Vlad Guerrero Jr., or Jordan Romano. Are you excited about 2.5 more years of George Springer at an AAV of $25 million a year?
JoeBrady
Guerrero and Bichette are right in the middle of their physical prime.
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IMO, the age matters less than the control years. Their ages lower the team age, but only for one year. In two years, they become quite a bit older.
MLBTR needs to hire editors
Now THIS is the kind of article MLBTR is good for, and one worth paying for.
Rsox
Whatever the answer is just know Atkins will do the opposite…
Old York
Jays need to sell a bunch of their assets at the deadline and get some prospects in return to rebuild.
kingbum
Guerrero just reminds me of Prince Fielder, an early peak than career shortened by weight gain and eventually injuries. That’s what I think of when I see Guerrero. Bo Bichette though first 6 weeks has been awful. Something is on his mind, I don’t know if he’s hurt or having personal family issues but his drop off been drastic.
terrymesmer
Bo Bichette last 15 days: .391/.440/.609/1.049
JoeBrady
Stay the course. Not of fan of Vlad, but there is no way he should be this bad, and Bichette as well. Manoah looks like he is back, and Gausman should be a lot better. This is not a .458 team.
OilCanLloyd
The one thing Atkins does’nt get credit for, is not signing Vlad jr. to a large contract after the 2021 season. And the Varsho trade isn’t as bad as it first appeared. He still made some bad moves this off season though. Still some time, but changes to the offence need to be made soon.
Hank Murphy
No, the Varsho trade is every bit as bad as it seems.
terrymesmer
Twice today I’ve read articles crapping on Vlad and Bo but giving George “Mendoza” Springer a free pass. What is wrong with people? Even the Toronto media and fans do this!
Vlad has been hitting about .370 the last month and Bo is over .300 the last couple weeks. It was mostly a pile of singles until recently, with lots of doubles coming and now some homers the last few days. Conversely…
Springer: .190/.270/.280/.550
kingbum
They are currently the 2nd worst team in the AL in runs scored, the only team worse has been the Chicago White Sox. Even though the gap is substantial like 40 runs you still don’t want to be on a list with them. You aren’t winning many games by getting 3 runs a game. I tell ya what though, if Bo and Vlad do get a prolonged hot streak, it will put them 3rd in the AL East and get them back in the wild card hunt.
LambchoP
Guerrero to the Twins. We need a permanent 1st baseman. Will never happen because we can’t afford him but imagine that lineup with Lewis, Correa, Buxton and Vlad:)
miklosselkirk
As long as Ross Atkins and Mark Shapiro have their hands on the controls, “the future of the franchise” won’t be one worth watching or thinking about.
Hank Murphy
Am I the only one NOT SUPRISED by the Blue Jays?
Last season they had a very good rotation that did not have an upside, (I mean, was there room for it to be better in 24 than it was in 23?) it could only maintain or go down.
They had an overachieving, over used bullpen that could only go down. It has, boy has it.
They had a mediocre offense that lost some decent bats and added…well, nothing of value.
They had last year and still have a group of coaches/manager who seem, well, clueless (outside of Walker)
Of course this team stinks. Who looked at this team in spring training and thought this team was any better than what it is?