The Padres announced that right-hander Joe Musgrove has been placed on the 15-day injured list due to right elbow inflammation. Righty Randy Vasquez has been called up from Triple-A to take Musgrove’s spot on the active roster and in San Diego’s rotation.
More specifically, Musgrove is suffering from triceps tendinitis, as the Padres told reporters (including The Athletic’s Dennis Lin). Since the IL placement was described as precautionary, it’s possible Musgrove could miss just the minimum 15 days if the triceps issue isn’t overly serious. However, returning to the IL continues a rough stretch of injury-related misery for Musgrove that has now stretched across two seasons.
A broken toe suffered in a Spring Training weight-room accident delayed Musgrove’s 2023 debut until late April, and he was limited to 17 starts after a bout of shoulder inflammation returned him to the IL in late July, and ultimately ended his season. The former All-Star still delivered a 3.05 ERA in 97 1/3 innings between these IL stints, but Musgrove has gotten off to a slow start in 2024.
No pitcher in baseball has allowed more home runs (10) or earned runs (29) than Musgrove this season, as he has lurched to a 6.37 ERA over eight starts and 41 innings. This trouble with the long ball has naturally coincided with a huge drop in Musgrove’s barrels and barrel rate, and his strikeout and hard-hit ball rates are also below average.
It could be that Musgrove’s elbow problem contributed to these struggles, or potentially some lingering affects from his long shutdown period in 2023. Assuming that his injury doesn’t sideline him for too long, this IL visit could be viewed as something of a chance for Musgrove to reboot his season after his time off.
Getting a healthy and effective Musgrove atop the rotation is critical to the Padres’ hopes, as Musgrove being an unexpected weak link has contributed to an overall inconsistent performance for the rotation. Dylan Cease has been tremendous and Yu Darvish has started to stabilize after a tough start of his own, while Michael King and Matt Waldron have both been up-and-down.
Vazquez has also made a pair of starts, delivering a 5.87 ERA in 7 2/3 innings. The 25-year-old right-hander was acquired as part of the Juan Soto trade package from the Yankees this past winter, and it remains to be seen if starting pitching will be his long-term role. Though he has gotten the start in 92 of his 102 professional games, Vazquez hasn’t shown much at Triple-A (5.19 ERA in 95 1/3 career innings) or his 45 1/3 frames in the majors. He’ll get another look in Musgrove’s absence, though the Padres could approach Vazquez’s starts as bullpen games if he can’t deliver a good chunk of consistent innings at the front of games.
straightuphonestguy
Bummer. They need to stretch out Brito or Morejon, Vasquez is looking incredibly rough so far.
Dennis Boyd
Brito sucks, too, though. So far much better trade for Yankees.
JSC Cubbs
Gonna be really difficult to grade that after the Dylan cease trade
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Agreed, if you think of two years of Dylan Cease as part of one year of Soto return. King has been good and bad. Right now, San Diego Padres and Oakland A’s have the same record. Both would be five games behind the Yankees but five games ahead of the Houston Astros.
ACK
King has looked really good half of his starts and also real the other half. But he is the Padres no 4 SP, with the upside of a really good no 3. Britto & Vasquez haven’t looked good, but they are much better than the depth SP options the Padres had in 2022 & 2023.
Brew88
Brito and Vasquez are better than Wacha, Lugo and Martinez? Hope they start showing it!
Roll
@brew
maybe i missed Wacha Lugo and Martinez in the minors in those years but i dont think they were depth options but actual starters.
Brew88
They were starters because the team had depth in the rotation. Right now the team lacks depth in the #5,#6 slots
Brew’88
Let me put it this way
#4-6 SP 2023: Wacha, Lugo, Martinez
#4-6 SP 2024: King, Waldron, no one unless you add Vasquez from MiLB
And 2024 is deeper?
ACK
@Brew’88 …Wacha has a 5.50 ERA in 2024. Waldron who sucks has been just as good as Wacha at $16M.
Brew’88
first of all, it’s early May so both of us shouldn’t be making any conclusions about this year. I just don’t see how this year’s rotation is superior or has more depth than last year, given that the #5 (and #6) slots are now filled by guys with no track record of success in MLB. Saying it doesn’t make it true, but if that’s a projection you want to make, then by what metric or argument are you basing it on?
Roll
so you are comparing depth pieces who opened the season as either a reliever or in the minors in brito and vazquez to actual opening day rotation starters in wacha lugo and martinez?
or are you saying wacha lugo and martinez were depth pieces and were supposed to be in the minors/relievers?
just trying to understand your comparison and what you actually consider depth.
straightuphonestguy
I like King a lot. Brito was rough today but I think he coulda won the last game Vasquez started in Colorado.
Johnny utah
This explains the terrible start for usually reliable musgrove. Probly pitching thru pain & stayed mum abt it
TJ next?
nutznboltz
He pitched great his last start.
Johnny utah
Bieber also looked great his last start
24 hrs later he’s out with TJ
Jeremy320
That’s common with ligament injuries. They are essentially rubber bands and the tension is far more painful early in the injury. Over time as the injury lessens the function and tension, far less painful and when it blows out the pain goes away instantly.
Johnny utah
@jeremy
Sounds awful lol
towinagain
Knew this would happen. Preller was handcuffed, when an extra arm or two was needed and not allowed to add pitching depth.
towinagain
Giants designated Mitch White…
solaris602
You’d be better off sending a position player out there because White gets shelled every time he even thinks about pitching.
Longtimecoming
Tow – they have more SP depth than in many recent years.
Who would you have had him get for “depth” when that term typically means a guy you hope you don’t ever need and stash at AAA?
Vasquez, Brito, Avila (since traded), Snelling maybe in a month, Mazur maybe in a month, Bergert any time.
Probably missed someone.
Brew’88
With Snell, Musgrove, Darvish, Wacha, Lugo and Martinez, Waldron they had more rotational depth last year than this year.
Longtimecoming
Good point but I have to say that from a start of the season perspective, no one knew what to expect from Wacha and Lugo.
From that perspective, on par with say, Avila, Vasquez and Brito.
Now, a month into season they were excelling.
I Believe We Can Win
Not really. Wacha Lugo Musgrove missed time
They lost Snell but Wacha and Lugo missed 12-15 starts between them
Least they added Brito Vasquez King Cease and have Snelling and others closer to mlb readiness that they didn’t have last year
So I’d say padres have more depth this year than last year considering all factors involved.
Yankee Clipper
Honestly, they didn’t really “lose” Snell. Snell is on the IL, and his start to the season has been horrendous. Seems like they were better off letting him walk, small sample size notwithstanding.
Comparing him to Cease, it’s obvious which one is better right now…. And more durable.
ACK
@Breww’88—Are you forgetting the 10 starts by Ryan Weathers? Or 6 starts by Avalia? Or 5 starts by Rich over the Hill in 2023? The Padres have way way more SP depth in 2024. Brito & Vasquez spot starts are going to be much better than Weathers, Avalia, and over the Hill.
Brew88
Avila was okay. But we’ll see ACK. So far the SP ERA is nearly 1 run above where the rotation was last year.
Brew’88
Padres team ERA 2023: # 2 in MLB
Padres team ERA 2024: #21 in MLB
The reason for the big drop isn’t the bullpen, it’s the SPs.
Longtimecoming
Brew, I think of depth as the guys in the 5-10 spots. In 2023, those were far worse than what we have on paper now – IMO.
The SP ERA difference is just as much a product of how worse 1-4 are in 2024 than what Lugo and Wacha did out of the gate as 3, 4 guys with Joe on shelf.
Overall, 1-5 in 24 have not performed as well as 23 – for sure.
If I had to pick between current 6-10 guys (some young but high ups does) in the 24 group I’d be happier than what we were looking at on 23 when those young guys weren’t in the mix yet. Now, add Brito and Vasquez as well.
Might just depend on a persons view of what “depth” means.
Brew’88
I was of the assumption that SP depth meant Starting Pitching, the guys on the roster that make up SPs 1-6. Some rotations are top heavy lacking depth at the back end. I honestly don’t know the order of depth at SP from 6-10 on any team, including the Pads.
Guys like Snelling and Iriarte weren’t in my consideration for this comparison of last year and this year.
Last year at this time, Snell, Joe, Yu, Wacha, Lugo, Martinez
This year: Joe, Yu, Cease, King, Waldron, and I guess Vasquez, even though he’s been in the minors most of the year
Brito, so far anyway, isn’t a SP.
towinagain
So Darvish went down earlier. Chances are could happen again.
Darvish and Musgrove out. Calling up rookies to fill two spots?
Deleted Userr
They could always sign Bauer to fill one of those spots.
Brew’88
They’d have to rush Mazur or Snelling which I hope they don’t do. No other prospect, including Bergert, looks remotely close to being ready.. They’ll utilize Vasquez, Brito, Morejon while Joe is out. Waldron might not have many more starts if he doesn’t get it going.
Longtimecoming
Brew – I agree. The potential call ups are more in the June/July timeframe if injuries or lack of production continues.
Brew’88
Assuming a healthy Musgrove and Darvish, they have a solid core of 4 starters that are #2-#3 level SPs (I’m perhaps rating King too highly here, but ok). Their # 5 starter Waldron isn’t cutting it as a #5. Maybe they give Brito a shot, or Morejon (who actually does look improved – knock on wood).
Longtimecoming
Yeah I agree on all points. The same can be said for how things look even better in 2025 with the young guys getting seasoned.
Brew’88
next year is going to be fun
User 4245925809
All sorts of bodies floating around dfa limbo. boston dfa’s vladdy gutierrez after only giving him 1 AAA game. he’s a flame thrower with many, many past chances from various teams.
guy still has no idea where home plate is, but throws hard some place. SD might as well be the next stop at AAA and provide hope.
ACK
@towinagain – Darvish is 37. He is healthy now and expected to make 25 starts &140- 150 IP while taking a couple old man IL stints to just be healthy for the playoffs. I am more concerned with Musgrove who had a shoulder injury in 2023. Darvish will make his starts & be avail for the playoffs.
oldguyG
Wolf
Acoss1331
Hopefully it’s just inflammation and a good month off ar most for Musgrove. Stay strong Padres fans!
Deleted Userr
Sign Bauer to make up for sabotaging his career?
And because he’s better and cheaper than anyone else who is realistically available lol.
Gwynning
It’s almost like somebody muted Trevor because he couldn’t understand when to let sleeping dogs lie… good to see you’re still pounding your one note drum though, Harambe. I’m sure Mr. Bauer Outage would buy you a Coke for representing his best interests on a meaningless interwebs board pontificating to powerless publishers!
youngTank15
Wrong article.
straightuphonestguy
Who sabatoged Bauer?
Deleted Userr
A former Padres employee.
El Niño
It was a ball girl you clown. Probably not even considered an “employee”.
Deleted Userr
Did she collect a paycheck from the Padres? Then she’s a Padres employee.
…
CLOWN!!!
El Niño
Not surprised you don’t know the difference between being an employee with benefits and a contract worker.
Deleted Userr
No, I just don’t care to argue semantics.
El Niño
Yet here you are…
straightuphonestguy
Saying the Padres sabatoged Bauer because of a former employee is like saying ths Dodgers are responsible for Urias’ DV. It’s not a serious argument.
I Believe We Can Win
Former padres pitcher Jacob Nix sabotaged Bauer. Dude knew the entire thing was a gold digger looking for a quick pay day. Didn’t do anything to help Bauer, even though he had knowledge the entire Lindsey Hill thing was bs.
Brew88
First I’ve heard that the doggy door was associated with the escapades
Deleted Userr
@I Believe We Can Win Thank you! I totally forgot about the Nix thing!
So Bauer was sabotaged by a former Padres employee and a former Padres contract worker (since we’re being pedantic).
El Niño
You’re pretty sick yourself to constantly defend someone who thinks it’s ok to punch women. It doesn’t have to be illegal to be wrong.
It speaks volumes that no one wants to deal with him.
Deleted Userr
@El Niño Just because you’re strictly missionary doesn’t mean everyone else has to be.
PadresWSChamps2025
Now why is it that, of the two, only the anti-Bauer crowd uses ad hominems? Why is that?
El Niño
Now why is that reflexive contrarians in the darkest corners of the internet are the only ones defending him?
PadresWSChamps2025
I asked you first.
Brew’88
So this is how earthlings get along?
Bottom line, no one wants to sign Trevor (or Brandon Belt, etc…). And I doubt an outbreak mlbtr activist group will change the minds of gms. But keep trying.
Personally, I want the San Diego Chicken back, bring back the chicken. The injustice
JoeBrady
thinks it’s ok to punch women.
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And you still think it is okay to trust Hill?
JoeBrady
the darkest corners of the internet are the only ones defending him?
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That’s absolute nonsense, and you know it. Hill texted exactly what she was going to do. If you have some moral objections to different forms of physical relations, so be it.
Quite honestly, it isn’t my thin either.
But if you believe Hill after she basically confessed, then that is more than a little weird.
I Believe We Can Win
Who did Trevor Bauer punch?
Genuinely curious since Lindsey Hill lied and we have video evidence of her sleeping next to Bauer the morning after she said he beat her. She has no injuries in the video and shes smiling.
And the girl in ARZ Darcy Adanna Esemonu was charged with one count of fraudulent schemes and artifices. She was indicted for allegedly defrauding Bauer.
So who did he actually hit?
El Niño
Can you share where you are getting information about this?
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Bauer did not have to go to bed with these women. They were screaming red flags. Bauer has no discernment or he figured they would be easy victims. It’s all on him for putting himself in these situations.
JoeBrady
It’s all on him for putting himself in these situations.
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Oh, he’s an idiot.
But everything you just said could probably be said about half the men AND women I know..
El Niño
Can you share where you are getting information about this?
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Thought so.
Deleted Userr
@Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Victim blamer
I Believe We Can Win
About what the Lindsey Hill situation?
There’s tons of resources out there that covered evidence Bauers legal team discovered after the restraining order process that wasn’t made available to them (his defense team).
This does a pretty good job covering the video of her video she published on instagram and deleted or something
youtu.be/PmkLAwbPhlg?si=aGgpwFEQRhOaACYF
I Believe We Can Win
Here’s Bauer himself on his YouTube channel revealing the text messages his legal team gained access to once Bauer and Hill filed lawsuits or something against each other.
youtu.be/6SphfHJbsmk?si=6WXw8MAIvj2Qwa5g
I Believe We Can Win
“She shouldn’t have worn that dress or been at that party or been drinking! She was asking to get r@ped!”
I Believe We Can Win
Well this comment didn’t age well El Niño lmao. Definitely how a little boy acts. If you need more links I got you.
Here’s Bauer accuser being charged with fraud in ARZ in an attempt to extort Bauer.
azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2024/04/17/….
Bauer being falsely accused is public knowledge at this point on not one but two different false accusations.
I Believe We Can Win
Are you ready to admit you were wrong about Trevor Bauer El Niño?
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
@hararambe
Who is the victim?? Saying Bauer should know better than to mess around with a psychologically imbalanced woman with a known history of bedding Major Leaguers is not “blaming the victim.”
El Niño
Hahahahaha a YouTube video of Trevor Bauer is your “evidence” clown show. What about the 3 other women mentioned in the mlb report.
I Believe We Can Win
“I don’t like facts”
We know El Niño. Little boys throw tantrums all the time. Like you are now.
Anyways. Her text messages are public knowledge. Whether it’s Trevor Bauer sharing them or a website. Her texts are out there where she identifies Bauer as her next victim and admits it was consensual between them.
At this point you’re just choosing to be ignorant cause you got exposed as being uninformed. Typical behavior of someone who’s embarrassed they were wrong,
whiskeyriff.com/2023/10/02/trevor-bauer-settles-la…
Brew88
But as it pertains to Bauer playing MLB again, what we all think doesn’t matter. At all.
No team wants him. No team is signing him. We can all try to influence each other here on mlbtr, but it doesn’t change a thing.
El Niño
Look clown show, reading compression isn’t your strong suit so I’ll spell it out for you. I never disputed whether it was “consensual” – I said regardless I’m not ok with hitting women. It doesn’t have to be illegal to be wrong. Now go back to your dark corners of the internet and taking YouTube conspiracies as “facts”
El Niño
Beyoncé could say you can sleep with me but the table stakes are you have to punch me in the face at least once and I’m out. It takes a certain brand of sicko to think it’s ok to punch women and an even sicker person to defend a pro athlete doing it. There’s an mlb campaign about asking for help right now that you should really think about.
I Believe We Can Win
You haven’t provided any proof he actually hit a woman lmao. He didn’t hit Lindsey Hill and he didn’t hit the girl in ARZ.
Far as the other 3 accusations being accused doesn’t mean he did anything. I can accuse you of being inappropriate with little kids, animals, and dead bodies. Does that mean you indeed touch kids animals and dead bodies inappropriately just cause I accuse you of such?
When he’s formally convicted of a crime, not charged, and a jury or judge finds him guilty then we can say oh yeah Bauer did those things. Until then there’s no proof he hits women. And proof up to this point has been faked by both Hill and the girl in ARZ.
Move along a now little boy.
I Believe We Can Win
K. Who did Trevor Bauer actually hit? You keep refusing to answer the question lmao.
When was he convicted of doing such?
Ah yes. When confronted with facts the little boy gets defensive and hurls insults as he cannot provide proof Bauer actually hits women. Cause accusations aren’t proof and accusers have already faked “proof”.
So either provide proof Bauer hits women, a conviction of him doing such, or shut up and move along little boy.
I Believe We Can Win
So either provide proof Bauer hits women, a conviction of him doing such, or shut up and move along little boy.
El Nino:………………
Thought so.
Little boy is just gonna avoid answering the challenge and continue insults if they respond. Watch.
Deleted Userr
@I Believe We Can Win I’m gonna call you Ricky Bobby from now on cuz you’re on fire.
El Niño
There’s 4 women all with a similar story, that he chokes them out and beats them, and there’s Trevor Bauer admitting to “consensual rough sex.” He has settled with them out of court because I’m assuming it would be horrific for both parties.
It’s interesting you continue referring to me as “little boy” while crying about my “insults.”
Now go away back to your dark corners of the internet, believing YouTube videos as “facts.”
El Niño
You clearly get triggered and unhinged by things that have no impact on your life. You should seek help.
I Believe We Can Win
Still no evidence huh? Accusations aren’t proof. If they were me accusing you of being inappropriate with kids animals and dead bodies would be true simply because I said you do these things. Must be true that El Niño is inappropriate with kids animals and dead bodies based on his own standard.
Consensual rough sex doesn’t mean he hits women during intimacy. You can be rough and not physically assault anyone. Sounds like you’re very inexperienced in that area. Possibly a virgin.
I Believe We Can Win
Nailed it. Presented 0 facts. Provided no proof. Just insults. Lmao why’d you even come back. You’re just embarrassing yourself at this point.
I Believe We Can Win
So again
Who did Trevor Bauer hit
When was he convicted of hitting them
Answer the questions little boy
“Settled out of court”
Lmao Bauer had paid 0 dollars to anyone accusing him outside of court. Him and Lindsey hill settlement went from pay Lindsey hill money to both parties drop the lawsuits. My god you’re so uninformed on this topic it’s laughable. I’d quit while you’re ahead little boy. You have 0 clue about anything you’re talking about obviously. God your parents must be embarrassed of you. I’m embarrassed for you. Your parents raised a mentally challenged little boy.
Deleted Userr
While “settling” doesn’t necessarily mean money changing hands it is generally understood to be synonymous with “he paid her off.” He didn’t pay any of his accusers a single cent.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
One thing I would recommend doing is reading ALL the text messages that were released in chronological order…NOT just the ones cherry-picked by Bauer in order to skew things in his favor. You can’t take Bauer’s video as proof of anything because he’s obviously going to manipulate the evidence to conform to his version of events.
I Believe We Can Win
Speaking of chronological order
Lindsey Hill said Bauer hit / beat her
Go through court stuff
No charges filed against Bauer cause her story didn’t add up
Lindsey Hill was denied a restraining order
Bauer and Hill sue each other
Bauers legal team released information obtained by police such as video of her the morning after as she is laying in bed with no bruises smiling “fearing for her life cause he beat her” and texts proving she lied and it was an extortion scheme from the get go.
Lindsey Hill went from demanding a monetary settlement to asking for both parties to drop their respective lawsuits.
Bauer paid Hill 0 dollars.
So which part proves Bauer hit her exactly? Was it the video showing she wasn’t hit? Was it texts saying they had rough sex? Must’ve missed where there was proof Bauer hit / beat this woman.
Deleted Userr
“Bauer in order to skew things in his favor. You can’t take Bauer’s video as proof of anything because he’s obviously going to manipulate the evidence to conform to his version of events.”
So is Hill. Like leaking private DM’s she supposedly received (which she probably sent herself from a burner) regarding what Bauer supposedly did to another girl who has not publicly accused Bauer of anything.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Yes, definitely Hill’s version needs to be looked at skeptically as well. They both have the incentive to frame events to their advantage. My ultimate take is that both are damaged souls and she was definitely going thru some personal psychological issues. These sort of people just find each other, especially for that brand of sexual recreation.
But I would argue Bauer should have recognized the glaring red flags here, remind himself that he’s a 31 year old grownup making 30million to start for the Dodgers. Send the girl home in an Uber and go to bed early. Do the responsible thing.
But instead he sees a vulnerable target & it’s like waving a red flag in front of a bull. They proceed to have consensual rough sex, which escalates in the heat of the moment into something not so consensual in her mind. The pictures the next morning aren’t any smoking gun for me because a victim will act complacent/docile around their abuser so they don’t get hit again. Also bruising/swelling can take 12-24 hours to fully manifest.
I Believe We Can Win
Unfortunately. Texts from Lindsey Hill confirm she planned the whole thing. She was looking for a pay day. Confirmed by texts, her own texts.
Given the fact we have her own words saying she’s a gold digger and will do what she must to extort Bauer anything she says must be scrutinized beyond belief.
She lied about many things the entire time but we are suppose to believe she feared for her life? Sure.
Act complacent and docile. She’s on video in bed Bauer is fast asleep and Hill smiles at the camera. Had every opportunity to leave the next morning. And didn’t. The video is direct proof she lied about her mindset the next morning. Someone in fear of their life isn’t laying in bed smiling at a camera (again that’s a choice she made by filming herself laying next to him, he’s asleep with a face mask on over his eyes).
We have the metadata confirming when it was taken (date and time).
The girl caught lying the entire time isn’t the victim.
Deleted Userr
@Ignorant Son-of-a-b Tell me what exactly forced her to text him afterwards saying she’s “never been more turned on in her life” and come back for seconds?
And it’s pretty obvious what side you are on referring to her as “victim.”
El Niño
It’s hilarious and sad watching you become completely unhinged over this. Take care, clown show. Get help.
I Believe We Can Win
Still no facts from the little boy. Didn’t have any to begin with.
Hopefully you’re staying away from little kids animals and dead bodies pervert.
Deleted Userr
@I Believe We Can Win You’re totally gonna get banned but it’s nice to see someone treat the Bauer haters the way they treat the Bauer defenders.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
We have different views on this harambe, but I was at least trying to keep my end civil, sorry if it didn’t come across that way.
I Believe We Can Win
@harambe
If I do I do
TOS mean very little on this website anyways. I’d consider it a badge of honor honestly. Means I made people do their jobs and enforce their TOS.
For the record. I didn’t begin with the insults. And if people like El Niño can dish it but can’t take it well that’s just them being mentally weak honestly.
Very Barry
If the Padres are trying to contend they should have sent the prospects they sent to Miami to Oakland for Paul Blackburn and J.P. Sears.
Longtimecoming
Do we know if that was an option?
websoulsurfer
Not likely to have been an option. Especially not both of them. Neither is expensive nor a FA at the end of the season, so no real need for the A’s to trade them.
Neither is a LHP. Both have history and peripherals this season that point to significant regression. so no real need for the Padres to trade for them.
Longtimecoming
Web, that was me being nice in my effort to say, this isn’t fantasy league. You are of course, very correct with your reasoning.
websoulsurfer
You are always diplomatic in your comments. Not a skill I have learned to master.
Longtimecoming
And you haven’t read all of my comments – LOL. I’ll accept about a 75% rate!
CrikesAlready
Padres contract curse. AJ Preller is like a drug sniffing dog for injuries…
Gwynning
*inserts quarter*
Ok, I’ll play…
WHAT “Padre contract curse”?
Gwynning
Well, you can’t take the Under!
Simm
Lol
Gwynning
Get well soon Java Joe, just a hiccup.
Unclemike1525
Not going to miss him pitching against the Cubs to be perfectly honest.
Brew’88
Maybe Joe is just following Yu’s advice to take a break to get right. If the Pads are going to be contenders, they need both of those guys to be healthy. Meanwhile, Waldron looks hideous today and might not stick in the rotation much longer.
straightuphonestguy
As long as Vasquez is #6, Waldron doesn’t have anything to fear. Arraez at 2B also isn’t helping. Hopefully one of Mazur/Bergert/Snelling can come through soon.
Brew’88
Greinke! Or Mad Bum, Noah Syndegaard, Matthew Boyd, Vince Velasquez?
Longtimecoming
I was in the Greinke, Cueto, Lauer or Zach Davies camp as a flyer, but realistically, those guys are fillers and not good.
VV was horrible as Padre but then must have fixed something.
Hard no on NS and MB.
Boyd, would have been worth a shot.
Brew’88
Agree on MB and NS. isn’t Boyd still unsigned?
Longtimecoming
I think so – we have Jackson Wolf back so he could be an option for 2-3 starts.
Brew’88
where is he now? I thought he was recovering from injury
Longtimecoming
El Paso – 6 ip, 0 er today.
websoulsurfer
El Paso. He pitched a really nice game today only for the pen to give it away. 6 shutout innings before Cosgrove, Fry and Hernandez gave up 8 runs in the 7th inning.
milb.com/gameday/space-cowboys-vs-chihuahuas/2024/…
Brew’88
hmmmmm……
Brew’88
thanks
straightuphonestguy
I would personally love go see Greinke, but I’m biased. He’s probably my favorite pitcher. I dunno how effective he would be.
sergefunction
Greinke was sabotaged by an independent contractor for the Padres.
Brew88
I’m guessing better than Waldron
websoulsurfer
About the same. 5+ ERA last season
wallabeechamp
Looks like AJ is gonna have to go get another infielder…
Longtimecoming
Solano is up!
SanDiegoFriarsDude
FML.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
What was I thinking drafting him 2 years in a row, at least I dropped him for gausman
SanDiegoFriarsDude
With Muskey out more weight will have to be distributed around the horn. Gonna need 7-8 innings from Darvish per start until Muskey returns from the injured list. Time for the boys to eat more innings for a while.
Gwynning
Maybe you shouldn’t be a d-bag and “thank God” for Trea Turner’s injury… this one is on you “Mr. Biggest Padre Fan on this entire site”
Simm
Padres will be as good as their starting pitching. Offense is perfectly fine, defense is good though watch Arraez today I can see why he is t a good fielder. Looks like the dudes is in quicksand trying to get to a ball. Hopefully they keep him at dh most days.
Padres definitely need another starter and soon or else they will likely just hover around the .500 mark.
They have to take a chance on calling up Mazur and hope he is ready. Guess we will know more in the next two weeks. One if Musgrove is back and two of Vasquez can figure it out. I have near zero confidence in Waldron being anymore than he has been. Which is a good outing or being shelled. His stats say he should be shelled just about every time out.
Hard to see a trade for a starter this time of the year.
straightuphonestguy
Seems real silly for Arraez to play 2B of all positions when Cronenworth is right there.
Pads Fans
Arraez is actually decent on defense at 2B. He is no Semien or Gimenez, but he is above average. +9 DRS total and an average of 3 DRS, over the last 3 seasons and improving each year. He doesn’t have great range, but when he gets to the ball he makes the play and his glove and arm are good.
Cronenworth may be the best defensive 1B in MLB this season. No reason to move him to 2B when you have multiple other options.
CravenMoorehead
Just here to give my homeboy Gwynning positive vibes during this time
Gwynning
*hat tip*
CravenMoorehead
Keep your head up west coast king
sergefunction
Joe Joe has not been the same since the no-no. They can deny it all they like, but it’s obvious. It hurt him.
Too many times it’s Elbow Suicide, going for the momentary glory. Stop it! This ain’t 1963, and Warren Spahn isn’t pitching anymore.
Not worth it. Today’s demanded arsenal is too hard on the arm to extend top arms foolishly for one game..
Wonder what Spencer Turnbull decides to do next time he has a shot at #2, which may be in play now that he’s found it again.
Nosferatu Zodd
Well maybe they can trade for another middle infielder.
Old York
Breaking News: Padres’ Joe Musgrove Suffers from ‘Giving-Up-Home-Runs-itis’ Epidemic!
Melchez17
Man, remember when all the analytic guys said Musgrave was an ace? His k rate… walk rate… spinny rate… He was destined for greatness. He’s a nice number 4 pitcher… always has been.
Brew88
@Melchez17 His ERA has been 3.02 2020-2023, if that’s a #4 SP on your team, the 1-3 guys are HOFers
Melchez17
1 all star game. An inning eater who will keep you in games. That was his peak. Now he’s in decline at 31.
Pads Fans
So you are basing your evaluation on a fan voting contest? Can you say any clearer that you really have no clue what you are talking about?
JoeBrady
He’s a nice number 4 pitcher… always has been.
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LOL!
#9 in ERA from 2021-2023.
AL B DAMNED
Buck Showalter wants his ear wax examined.