The Angels announced on Tuesday that Mike Trout is undergoing surgery to repair a meniscus tear in his left knee. He was placed on the 10-day injured list. Alden González and Jeff Passan of ESPN first reported that Trout would undergo knee surgery. The club hasn’t provided a timetable but expect Trout back this season, though González and Passan report that four to six weeks would be a best-case scenario, with the caveat that doctors will need to get a closer look.
It’s unclear when Trout suffered the injury, as he was playing in last night’s game and wasn’t removed at any point. González relayed a two-minute video clip on X of Trout discussing the issue. Trout said he felt it a little bit in the third inning but it didn’t seem like a serious issue. But it was sore after the game and this morning, so he got it tested.
Needless to say, it’s an awful development for the Angels and for Trout himself. The superstar was in good form to start the 2024 campaign. He has already launched ten home runs and drawn walks in 12.7% of his plate appearances. He currently has a line of .220/.325/.541 for the year, which translates to a wRC+ of 142, indicating he’s been 42% better than the league average hitter. He also stole six bases in seven tries.
But that performance is now put on pause, the latest setback for a player who has become frustratingly injury prone in recent years. The last time he was able to play 120 games in a season was 2019 and he’s only gone beyond the 82-game plateau once in that span. He was healthy in 2020 but the pandemic shortened the season to 60 games. A right calf strain was the culprit in 2021, followed by back problems the year after that and a left hamate fracture last season. Now he’s set to miss some undetermined amount of the 2024 season while recovering from this surgery.
As has so often been the case, the Angels are struggling despite Trout’s best efforts. They are currently 11-18, which puts them ahead of just the Astros and White Sox in the American League standings. Now they will have to proceed without their franchise player in center field for the foreseeable future.
How the club will proceed without Trout remains to be seen. They just designated Aaron Hicks for assignment yesterday, subtracting one outfielder from the mix. Now Trout’s inevitable placement on the injured list will subtract a second.
Jo Adell has plenty of center field experience and has been hitting well so far this season, currently sporting a monster batting line of .321/.373/.623. Perhaps most importantly, he’s only striking out at a 23.7% clip, compared to a 35.4% rate in his big league time coming into this year. Taylor Ward is having a good season at the plate and should stick in left field.
Mickey Moniak may need to jump into a regular role, though his fortunes have completely flipped since last year. In 2023, he rode a .397 batting average on balls in play to a line of .280/.307/.495. This year, his BABIP has cratered to .189, leading to a line of .143/.200/.214. He was due for regression based on last year’s 35% strikeout rate but he has actually lowered that to 30% this year, despite the far worse results. Multi-positional players like Brandon Drury, Luis Rengifo, Cole Tucker and Ehire Adrianza have some outfield experience. Jordyn Adams is on the 40-man but currently on optional assignment. The Angels also signed Kevin Pillar to a big league contract shortly after announcing Trout’s injury.
Trout’s contract runs through the 2030 season. Many speculated that he might ask for a trade away from the Angels now that Shohei Ohtani is gone and the team made little effort to improve the roster this past winter, despite his personal attempts to lobby the club’s decision makers to do more. But in February, he said that asking for a trade would be “the easy way out” and that he still wants to win with the Angels.
Damn it he had such a good start
david – He will be back in time for the playoffs, that’s the important thing.
I hope he is too but it’s not a guaranteed thing. Depends on recovery time, getting back into shape, etc. One of the few guys that play MLB that normal people can kind of relate to.
You missed the joke. Angels aren’t sniffing the playoffs.
“You’re not normal, Henry!”
What kinda person are you!?
Of course not. How could they possibly surpass the juggernaut Astros and Mariners?
I wonder how many days Trout has spent on the DL his career to date. Does any site have that stat?
Ahh, its always funnier when someone has to explain the joke
It was pretty obvious to anyone with any common sense.
Trout has missed 626 out of a total 2,144 games as of Opening Day, 2024. Since 2021 he has missed ~ 49% of his games. Obviously, that number is going to increase since he is out for an unknown period of time this season.
So, if he doesn’t return this year, he will have missed approximately 756 games out of a possible 2,306.
In total, if he doesn’t return by the end of this season he will have missed 33% of possible games played. As of right now he has missed 30% of possible games played.
a whole third of his career
imagine his total stats rn
Yeah, and he’s already at 85 career WAR. Definitely one of the best ever (by the statistics) if he stayed healthy… I mean, mapping that out, he *should* have about 24 more WAR, which would put him at 109 career WAR. That’s incredible.
Anyone with common sense wouldn’t have told the joke or laughed at the joke.
The game is a lesser game with him off the field. Same was true with Mantle and Griffey.
It’s a shame.
42 thumbs up.
Is that because he’s the most boring person on the entire planet?
In the first seven years of his career, Ted Williams played in just under 54% of the Red Sox’s games. So there’s that.
And in the next eight years, he played in just over 71% of the games. So there’s that.
Boring people typically do the right thing. I’m sure your very exciting.
He got almost 50 thumbs up. The Angels not making the playoffs is triggering for you?
Why does it please me so much to hear/see people refer to it as the DL instead of the IL..
Talk about “WAR” wasn’t Ted literally off fighting in one which is a big reason he missed so many of the games earlier in his career, think it’s only fair to mention that…….
You will make most of the commenters here have a brain cramp with all the math.
Maybe one of the teams playing will let him throw out the first pitch.
Fever Pitch seen here re-arranging the furniture of a blind man… =D
Fever pitch might be the biggest troll on this site
Yea, lay off the weed man. Time to put him in a bubble.
Maybe they call the guardians looking for centerfield called myles straw.
Ok so you have Trout traded before the deadline then. If he’s in the playoffs it’s in a different uniform
Playoffs! Playoffs!! …
He gets to watch the playoff with Bwckham and his wife from the confirm of their home. So really nothing has changed. I wish they were good like their 2002 run. I want a reason to message my buddy whose an Angels fan. As is my brother in law. But he’s also a Lakers fan. So it’s a bad week for him.
Playoffs, playoffs. You’re talking about playoffs!!!
You mean to watch the playoffs…
Fudge
Only I didn’t say fudge
@david
Good start? Batting 220?
10 bombs, .867 OPS and 142 OPS+ is a pretty darn good start
867 ops makes him 28th in the league lol
Keep trying to make sense of it all tho
In other words Johnny, a good start.
Rob Deer good!
Trouts rankings so far:
28th in OPS
35th in Runs Scored
68th in RBI
90th in Hits
130th in AVG
298th in Doubles
buuuut he did finish 4th in his junior high school spelling bee and i personally believe that makes up for these subpar #s, so yes i agree with ya’ll he’s had a “such a good start”. in fact, before he went down today he was 1st on my list of MVP favorites and i have him listed as favorite for MVP for the next 11 years as well
Not to his standards…
The thing about Mike Trout is that he is Mike Trout. He was, for long time, seen as a baseball God. Being 42% better than league average is terrible for a guy like Trout. He has shown his strength this year via the long ball but he’s also having his own Hercules moment with the other wonky numbers in his stat line. I really do hope he can come back because baseball needs Gods like Mike Trout.
Johnny brings up an amazing point here. You shouldn’t say anyone is having a “good start” unless they’re favorites for MVP. It’s Mookie, Ohtani and like Gunner Henderson then 950 bad players having bad starts all in a vacuum without contextual regard.
What really matters is player rankings in April. Johnny please keep educating these people.
there’s a difference between good and amazing, trout is good, mookie, ohtani, and gunnar are amazing….get it right man…if you don’t think 10 homers, with an 142 OPS+ is good, please stop being a baseball fan and go watching cricket.
Trout has had an amazing career.
If you don’t know that, watch cricket.
If you’re replying to me then not great at recognizing sarcasm
OPS is one of the worst stats out there, while wrc is the best (IMO).
You’re cherry picking some less important stats there
@coop
Hhahahahahahahahaha
Runs, rbi, hits
Yeah Just the foundation of baseball
Less important stats would be sac flies or bunts
not cherry picking coop, I’m being truthful. how about this, 521. slugging, 867. OPS. well above average. 7.9% home run rate, although his BABIP is low, its mostly because hes getting unlucky…. Gunnar? only a .3% higher home run rate. and a terrible 5.9% walk rate which is well below trouts. not to mention a higher K rate then trout by far. Ohtani? only a 4.7 HR rate, only 10% walk rate. Don’t just look at face stats, underlying numbers matter too. Yes Gunnar, ohtani and betts are having amazing seasons, but we have to give credit to trout where its due, and he’s good, and he’s having a good start.
RBI’s and Runs are situational. For RBI’s you need players ahead of you getting on base. To score runs you need players to get hits behind you.
@myth
Home runs are situational too
If a pitcher sucks he’ll give up bombs
If a pitcher is wild he’ll walk hitters and put em on base
If an ump has a bad day he’ll make a poor call
Everything is situational in baseball , everything is based on the current situation. Who is on base who is hit in front of you who hits behind you, what pitcher is up what pitcher is warming up what the manager had for breakfast that day what the umpire’s wife yelled at him before he left for the game. Maybe a team played 19 innings previous nite and are out of gas today so someone will throw a no hitter. Maybe a tm hasnt scored in a week and erupt for 20 runs today
EVERYTHING IS SITUATIONAL FOR F SAKE
Lol
He was stealing though to make up for the avg
I agree. Phillies just played there and he looked good.
Angels are cooked
They’ve been cooked since losing the opening series to the Orioles.
Unfortunately they won’t be able to reach the Dodgers level of getting swept in the 1st round of the playoffs to a team with half the payroll.
They did in 2014. Best record ever n the AL and got swept by the Royals
*whoops didn’t mean to say “ever”. They won 98 games
For the last decade.
The O’Malley curse
Hey Arte Moreno
What day do they pick up trash?
This is why I can never be a Dodgers fan
City of Los Angeles to make way for proposed public housing. The public housing plan that had been advanced as politically “progressive” and had resulted in the removal of the Mexican-American landowners of Chavez Ravine was abandoned after the passage of a public referendum prohibiting the original housing proposal and the election of a conservative Los Angeles mayor opposed to public housing. By 1958, the public housing plans were abandoned and the land was conveyed by the city to the Dodgers. The new plans were advanced to construct Dodger Stadium on the site, and in 1959, the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department forcefully removed the last residents occupying Chavez Ravine.
As a Philly phan, I hate seeing anyone go down with injury. I don’t care ago they play for. I wish you the best Mike!
Who cares if you are a Philly fan?
Yet again, you show why the downvote should be reinstated….
No one cares what team you root for
The only thing I can think of is Trout is from Philly. But I agree with you.
I agree, It may not be relevant but it didn’t need a reply such as Hot Dog’s.
As a Phillies Phan (and that is relevant to this comment) it could be that we have such a bad rep he felt the need to preface it.
Bring the down vote back. Let people get their feelings hurt. Builds character.
You if you replied about it ?
Why make a nasty comment? If you didn’t like it, just ignore it. It didn’t affect you, did it?
When Trout eventually retires, we’ll all wonder how amazing his career could have been.
Like Jones and Griffey
Speaking of Griffey, Trout has a career 173 OPS+ where Griffey never reached that figure in a single season during his entire career. I found that pretty crazy considering how amazing Griffey was… fastest player to 350 and 400 hr up to that point, etc.
It’s also interesting comparing Trout to Ohtani since 2018. Trout with a 175 OPS+ to Ohtani’s 150 mark with only 1 fewer homerun (177 vs 178) despite playing in 137 fewer games.
I hope he comes back and transitions to a full time DH, whatever it takes to get his most valuable asset, his bat, available as much as possible.
When he’s in center he’s not just a generational talent, he’s possibly the most valuable player of all time, at DH he’s simply a fast JD Martinez, very good but not all time
This just really sucks. I was so hopeful he was going to have a healthy season and get back to the player he can be. This is so disappointing.
STLCards: The sad thing is, he had gotten back to the player he was. I hate it when the best of the best get injured. I saw them both play, but I’d love to see Ichiro and Randy Johnson play again. I hope I’ll get to see Trout play again.
When I heard him say he wanted to steal 20 plus bases I knew he would eventually be on the IL at some point.
Oof.
Which baseball God did Trout upset? This sucks.
EDIT: I just saw the word “not” before season ending. Maybe he can get back on the field this year.
Still sucks.
the ghost of anthony rendon sitting on his bad knee.
The Curse of Arte Moreno! Sell the team!
#selltheHalos needs to trend.
Good Ol’ IL Trout.
That’s depressing to see. I just hope he’s healthy enough to eventually play like 120 games this year.
“Eventually play like 120 games”..I’m a huge Trout fan but what you’re suggesting is probably going to require some sort of a time traveling machine(one that can reach the year 2013) since 2024 Trout is pretty much made of glass.
Another season, another injury to Mike Trout. Whoever you pissed off enough to hex you, buy them something nice.
I’m shocked lol. Dude is built of glass and paper at this point
Voluntary contraction is looking like a solid option.
Well he lasted a month, so since 2019 that’s likely a personal best for Trout
“Personal best for Trout”..This is devastating to Trout fans including myself. Mike Trout played in at least 158 games in 4 of his first five full seasons and 139 games in the other one. Since then, it’s been progressively going downward and now it’s to the point that he can only last about a week to 10 days longer than Anthony Rendon before he’s injured and that says everything.
MLB fan: If I was starting a team, my first choice would be Trout.
Time to move him off of center. No guarantees but center is harder on the body than the corner spots are.
Potentially time to move him to DH…at least part-time.
Yeah sone DH and some corner outfield. I know he didn’t want to move off of center but it’s time. First priority at this point should be stay healthy.
Can’t move him until the Angels have someone else who can play cf.
Adell played center mostly in minors.
They aren’t particularly good anyway. Get someone else in center. IDC if you have to swing a trade. Just keep this guy in the lineup somehow. These injuries are piling up. He’s signed for years and people want to see him play.
They had been giving him some rest at the DH position.. guess they needed to do it more..
Maybe he would be better suited as a DH after he gets back? Do something that can take some pressure off his knees/legs. I know he would probably not want to do this, but it may extend his career?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Recovery time for us normal humans: two to four weeks on crutches with a knee brace for the first six weeks. Depending on age, it can take 3-5 months for recovery. Not sure what else may be floating about in his knee or other problems.
It took me two weeks to get back on my feet and walking cautiously crutch free after four. It took six weeks after surgery for me to be running again. But that wasn’t at full speed. 2 months is where I was 100%. First month in bed, on pain killers, and getting up. Second month, slowly working back to normal with physical therapy, which lasted beyond that. That’s both knees, one at 14 and the other at 25.
Really depends, If the meniscus is salvageable it’s a longer recovery but better long term since you heal the injury.
If it’s not salvageable, they remove the damaged piece and you can pretty much walk out of the hospital and be back to playing in 3-4 weeks.
If it’s not salvageable then your talking knee replacement surgery in a couple years.
Not necessarily – depends on where exactly and how big of a tear. If it’s a small tear and they just need to remove a piece, it shouldn’t be too bad.
Michael Saunders had to be carted off for a similar injury, they ended up taking out 60% of his meniscus. Trouts doesn’t seem as bad just given that he was able to finish the game, probably a small tear
Why provides more production the next 7 years Judge or Trout?
It’s more a question of who than why.
why is gamora!
If its a repair its 3 to 6 months recovery time. If its a meniscectomy, that’s 6 weeks.
BUMMER!!!
Holy efff! Yeah that’s my reaction.
Glass
Overpay
Does this mean Hicks is back?
Nope. That means a AA or AAA outfielder is going to get a chance at the bigs because the Angels chances are now shot.
@hiflew
Similar situation when the Jays DFA’ed White then a couple days later Green hits the IL.
Near the end of the article it says they’ve signed Pillar to a MLB deal
@ohyeadam
The Pillar signing was a day or so after the Trout announcement and not part of the original story.
No playoff wins. Most overrated MLB player
Such a troll comment that has been discredited so many times. You do know that baseball is a team sport, Hotdog? Trout can only do so much. He cannot win a game by himself.
Link to being disproven?
Nor has he led his team to victory. He does put up great individual stats though. Helped a lot of fantasy leaguers.
“Most overrated MLB player”….There’s NO way that Mike Trout is “overrated”. If “playoff wins” is the criterion for being “overrated” you’d have to also consider Ohtani “overrated” because even with Trout & Ohtani on the same team the Angels couldn’t even get close to the playoffs. I think the fact that neither Trout nor Ohtani could lead the Angels to the postseason illustrates that MLB is not the NBA where one or two guys can carry a team to victory. In MLB it takes good ownership, excellent drafting and development, health and good, deep backups for your front line guys. The Angels possess NONE of these things and so even with a couple of great players(Trout/Ohtani), the Angels are still LIGHT YEARS from ever reaching the playoffs.
It sucks so bad being and Angels fan right now. And the one bright light to this season was watching Trout play like Trout again.
Taylor Ward has been really good.
Ward and Detmers are the best reasons to watch this team.
O’Hoppe, Adell and Rengifo are playing well too.
I feel for you guys man. Watching them play my Reds last week, they didn’t look like a very inspired team, to put it lightly. Here’s hoping he has a quick recovery and they find a spark!
Rendon out after the first 20 games and Trout before 30 games. This is like the 4th year in a row of this. Those two are worthless.
Dang. I thought he and Rendon finally had a chance of playing a total of 100 games combined for once.
He’s a 1st-ballot HOFer, but baseball fans decades on will wonder what type of numbers he’d put up if he could have stayed healthy in his 30s. I fear we’ll never know.
He’s got the Mantle curse.
He’s been a Hall of Fame lock since he hit the mandatory 10th season in the majors. He’s had a better career than a good half of the current Hall right now. If he can add in some playoff success he’ll fill out the resume, but that depends on the Angels organization.
More than half. He was unchallenged as the game’s best player for a decade, three MVP’s, and he’s at 86 career WAR. He can limp into 100 career WAR. The sad part is he’s doing just that. Limping. 1st ballot and unanimous when the time comes.
What the F’ing F.
The Rendon injury was a given, but I was really betting/hoping for a full Trout season (or close to it).
Unreal.
Dang, reminds me of Ken Griffey Jr. Still GOATed, but can’t help but wonder what could have been if Trout had a relatively injury-free career
Angels in the Outfield. Scratch that, in the DL.
Torn meniscus is not season ending?
“Not season ending”…I believe the NBA’s Joel Embid was recently able to play, albeit a bit hobbled, about 5+ weeks after knee Meniscus surgery.
Quitting already and it’s not even May. I almost feel bad for Ron Washington
His buddy Ohtani had his bet that Trout would be down by May 1 so Mike had to help him out. Only kidding!
Might be time for full DH duties for Mike
Color commentators stay relatively injury free.
“Dynamite drop-in, Monte.”…
Ugh.
That d*mn pitch clock strikes again!
LOL
Ohtani’s bookie missed that he changed teams, and was making a statement of what would happen if he doesn’t finish paying off the debt? Jk.
He started to experience soreness in the 3rd inning yesterday. Not only did he not come out of the game, he stole 2B in the 7th. So obviously he didn’t think this was serious.
Ron Washington needs to protect Trout from himself. Even if he’s only out 6 weeks or so, I highly suspect Washington’s not going to be giving Trout the green light to steal 20 bases again like he said he wants to do.
That’s not shocking at all.
Mike Trout, one of baseball’s all time great glass cannons.
Is it fair to label Trout’s career as the biggest “what if” (he stayed healthy, etc) of this generation? unbelievable!!
smk – No, because he enjoyed 11 years of incredible success.
Since a generation goes back 15 years, biggest what-ifs would be Pedroia, deGrom, Wright, Tulowitski, Strasburg, and Brandon Webb.
I think the biggest what if is simply deGrom
The Yankee 1st overall pick like 30 year ago
He’s a HOF’er if he never plays another game. The “what if” is how high would he rank among the all-time greats.
I think he is at the point where he is already in the HOF even if his career was to end today. I still expect Trout to hit 500 home runs before he retires, but I no longer expect him to reach three thousand hits.
He’s hit 378 career HR. He’s 32 and only played more than 100 games once in the past few years. He’s probably not playing more than 100 games this season. His body (and skills like bat speed) are likely to break down even more as he ages into his mid-30s.
I like Trout, and I wish he’d been able to stay healthy. That said, he’s not hitting another 122 HR to get to 500.
He has six years to go. If he plays 500 games, 122 home runs is maybe 50-50 to me.
He would need to reach at least 500 Home Runs or collect 3000 hits and neither seem too realistic at this point. If Trout gets in shy of those numbers than Andruw Jones also needs to be enshrined in the HOF as well
While you can make an argument for Jones as well, Trout is in. For several years he was the face of baseball and the single best player.
Jones was not close to as good. Not even in the same conversation.
Since the integration of baseball only one player has started their career with a better 10 year stretch. Mantle. That’s it. Trout hit better with a 3 point higher OPS+, but the shortened 2020 season made it impossible to have as high of a WAR.
You need to go back and look at Andruw’s numbers. For a straight decade Jones was probably the best defensive player in Baseball, let alone the best defensive Center Fielder.
Andruw Jones was a great player defensively and for a period offensively, and is legitimately a borderline Hall of Famer (albeit hamstrung by how lousy his falloff was). Mike Trout is an excellent player, and nowhere near a good comparison to Jones.
This is discouraging, but maybe Trout is still really good without his knees? Could he hit from a chair? Worth trying at this point.
Who runs health and strength & conditioning for the Angels? It seems like ALL their biggest stars in recent years are made of glass: Ohtani, Rendon, Trout. This is terrible for the game.
It’s strange how many people still love Mike Trout. He signed a 12 year 426 million contract in 2019 and has pretty much been a broken shard of glass since then. Amazing player but fans are paying him to drive a Bugatti to the Dr and rehab every season. Retire with class. But nope. He will limp to 2030 while Angels fans pay for him to live like a sultan in la.
I’m not sure you understand how things work
He donated 1,000 bucks per HR a few seasons ago and sought/got publicity for it. So there is that.
He seems like a pretty good dude but he’s definitely not worth the contract he signed at this point. I guess for the Angels the shortened season he has every year is basically their World Series.
“Definitely not worth the contract” I think the contracts of Trout, Rendon(Xander Bogarts = negative W.A.R)and to a lesser extent Aaron Judge are going to make teams think long and hard before they hand out contracts longer than 5 years in the future. And I say this as a huge Trout & Judge fan.
cant even trade him now
Just can’t stay healthy! I hate it for him.
Same injury as Edwin Diaz last year at WBC..
He was out for a full year, and his injury occurred before the ’23 season started!
Diaz was celebrating when he tore his meniscus just jumping on the mound, and I see teams “STILL TODAY” getting in a circle and jumping around all together at the end of a game and just wonder “WHEN” somebody gets injured for doing something silly!!
I know a fairly recent Cy Young winner who pitched 7 and a third scoreless in Mexico only two days ago and who does not have a torn meniscus that they could sign right now for the league minimum…
Kenny Powers?
How many believe they could shop Ohtani, Trout and Ren-done in one package back then even if they’d have to eat up some of their salary? Or at least Ohtani and one of the rest two?
I got some bad news for you fam…
It’s really unfortunate to see another one of the all time greats suffer an injury plagued career. I remember the talks of Trout eventually joining the 3000 hits and 600 HRs clubs. Now the talk is if he’ll ever play a full season again
I wouldn’t be so sure of that. The list of three time MVPs is short and Trout’s prime ranks among the all time best. You’ll also have to consider who will be voting on the HOF when Trout becomes eligible. A ton of younger writers with fond memories of Trout’s best days
Pete Rose is innocent Fry Ohtani33 mins ago
Hes not a Hall of Famer.
===========================
He has a career 86.3 bWAR. He is a lock for 1st ballot.
Right. He is hall of good. *Maybe* hall of very good. Definitely not Hall of Fame.
You’re trolling, but I’ll play anyway.
When you are the best player in MLB for several seasons you are a HOFer. We can go over all the stats to back up his claim as a 1st ballot HOFer, however finishing top 5 in MVP voting for 9! years in a row pretty much determines how amazing this guy was.
You, OTOH, are a 1st ballot troll, which is annoying as this forum is actually populated by 98% of decent people.
Mike Trout injured? Who didn’t see this coming?
Damn shame. If the Angels want any hope whatsoever of saving their season and recouping any kind of assets for Trout – they have to trade him right now to one of the two teams that could actually absorb his contract – the Phillies or Yankees. Here’s my blockbuster trade proposal I’ve been screaming for since December. After this, the Angels would have to consider it.
Phillies get:
M. Trout RF (36 mil over next 6 years)
J. Addel LF
A. Wantz RP (from PA)
Angels get:
N. Castellanos (20mil / 2.5 years)
T. Walker SP (18mil / 2.5 years)
C. Pache OF
A. Bellatti (From CA)
S. Aldegheri LHSP (#19)
C. McGowan RHSP (#20)
Phillies can hang in there until the Allstar break without Trout, using Addel/Merrifield in RF batting 8th with an occasional Bryce appearance out there. The Angels fill a huge void in their lineup and rotation, and can’t be dubbed with the dreaded “rebuild” label. They also acquire two young prospects, one that’s off to great start at AA. The salaries of all the players involved cancels out for the next 2.5 years. The Phillies are responsible for the remaining 4 or 5 of Trout thereafter, but didn’t have to give up a top 10 organizational prospect to get him.
Who says no?
Phillies. Trout’s remaining contract is an anchor and they already have a franchise face in Harper. Angels will always be in “rebuild” if their owner refuses to sign any starting pitcher long-term while unable to develop pitching. Addell, while having a good season so far, has a current .361 BABIP and will regress some. T. Walker is a decent mid-rotation starter and good value for his salary.
Anything to divest Castellanos.
We didn’t get nothing in return for Shohei Ohtani
Mike Trout we don’t expect to get anything in return
Philadelphia freedom
Both teams. Why would the Angels want a collection of questionable bodies from the Phillies? Why would the Angels give up Adell – he’s most likely the CF replacement? Do you really think Pache and Bellatti have any trade value whatsoever? And why would the Phillies trade two of their top prospect arms for a huge contract and an attached player that will miss a third of the remaining contract (on average)?
Also – trying to trade the injured star to the team he was playing when he went down seems like a big of a fail.
I’m convinced that Anaheim Stadium was built on a burial ground and the Angels are jinxed. Trout needs to get healthy and traded before a tarantula finds its way into his luggage and he ends up wiping out while surfing, or throws his back out hula dancing.
I’d estimate that 3 of us know what you are referencing…well done.
“Mik Trout to undergo knee surgery”
Nobody cares!!!
Trout is the best player of this era. He gets hurt a lot. He gets paid a lot. His team is always terrible.
As was alluded to in another thread on here the other day, Trout has a no trade clause and the Halos are not likely to be in any competitive position for several years.
So, even if the Angels asked him if he wanted to be traded so he can chase a ring, with his history and contract, who would offer much to LA for his services.
Trout will probably go down in history as one of the greatest players never to play in a WS.
This is a yearly thing with him… It’s why I will always consider him overrated. Sure, he’s great when he takes the field but how often is that?
It should be a federal crime to have Trout and Rendon on the same team. Then again, the chances of them being in the lineup together aren’t exactly great.
Who had April 30th on their bingo card
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!
Far from a “wasted talent” – kinda like Ken Griffey, will go to the HOF and have a lot of people wondering what could’ve been
This is sad. You always want to watch the best play the game and for more than a decade he was the very best. Get well soon Mike.
To be the best you have to, you know, actually play the game…
DRAMA.
IT is here to stay
Trout seems like a wonderful human being. But at this point I have zero respect for him as a competitor. He either has zero interest in playing on a winning team or he’s a moron or completely delusional thinking that the Angels could ever put together a good team around him.
Lol Pads Fans/outinleftfield/websoulsurfer with new account
Got to say though, lives up to the name. Definitely comments like baseball IS life, the only life he has lmao.
Not sure why he needs all these accounts. None of them are banned so it’s not for that.
He isn’t an Angels fan he’s “Pads Fans” pretending to be one. Read their comments. Clearly the same guy.
Didn’t he say he was healthy? This guy has the body of a 70 year old.
Rough interview to watch. You can really see the frustration. As much as he wants to compete, he can’t do it alone. The team didn’t get the tools that it needed in the off season so I don’t think that the time off is going to change the direction of the team. Really sorry for you Mike and hope that you heal quickly and get back on the field sooner than later so that you can do what you like doing, playing ball.
Anthony Hall and Everson Pereira
for Trout and Anthony Rendon
do it Cash!!!
It’s only money
His salary is a drain on the team since he makes so much and plays so little
Ditto for Rendon
The Angels organization is akin to a billionaire that goes to Target to buy an anniversary present.
Not so bad. 10 dau injured list. Back on day 11
Think they (including Trout) will finally figure out what was obvious no later than 2021—that Trout is simply a DH?
How difficult is this?
Or will he continue to run out there until his skills completely degrade after the next injury or two?
They figured out after 2019 that despite an SB/CS record of 200/36, Trout should stop stealing bases because it was bad for his health. Let’s see if the Angels’ ‘braintrust’ can figure out he should stop playing the position on the diamond requiring far more running than any other.
The Angels AAA team is older than some MLB rosters.
Just like the sunrise in the East, Mike Trout finds himself injured yet again.
When Trout and Harper appeared on the scene together. It looked like Trout had left him in the dust. I absolutely couldn’t stand Bryce Harper. But flash forward to now. Somehow Harper seems to have grown from punk to gamer vet in Philadelphia. While Trout is seeming more like a “What could have been”.
I was scouting the Midwest League when Trout played for Cedar Rapids. Scouts would put everything down just to watch him hit. No charting. No guns. He was incredible. Another scout comped him to Mickey Mantle. I thought that was so crazy. But he really did play show Mantle for a long time. I comped him to Eric Davis when he was 19 there. Forever it seemed cool that he’d outplayed that. But he’s trending a lot more Eric Davis these days.
Trout’s first 10 years in MLB were Mantle. That was his comp in every way. Maybe you should have kept your radar gun and stopwatch in your hand for that half season he spent at Cedar Rapids at age 18. He never played there at age 19.
Davis didn’t even get to the majors until he was 22. At the same age that Trout was playing in the majors, Davis was still playing short season ball in Eugene. If you were comping those two, I’m hoping you were an amateur scout and not one getting paid to keep an eye on those kids.
Sorry my bad…missed that half season by one age year.
Good lord you’re a jerk. I was actually a professional scout covering the Midwest League for the Rockies leading up to the trade deadline.
You don’t get casual conversation nor word of mouth comps. We were discussing future projection.
Projections. You’re Aspergers style literalism wouldn’t be much fun at any games.
His trade value just went into the dumpster. Best case scenario is that they trade him for one or more bad contracts after the season. Maybe they can ship him to Boston for Story, Yoshida, and Devers.
Arte doesn’t care about trade value, he cares about marketing value. Angel fans love Trout and will come out to watch him regardless. Trout will play his entire career in Anaheim, for better or worse.
Great player, but every year gets injured .
FWIW, while no normal person roots for an injury like this, this is an opportunity to re-align their l/t plans. They were always toast, but at least this gives them an opportunity to acknowledge it and make some changes.
Anyone not under contract for 2025 should be traded for whatever they can get. And the Angels fans are going to hate this one, but Schanuel should probably go down for more development. Probably Neto as well.
I thought log and hard about including Ward and a couple of others in there as well. I hate to have Trout return next year to even less talent than they have now, but I think you have to honestly assess the Angels chances for 2025 as well as 2024. This will be their 10th year in a row missing the playoffs.
They need to change the path they are on.
Nothing changes until the ownership changes.
“♫And it’s one, two, three strikes your Trout at the old ballllll gammmmee♪♫” Hopefully he’s not out too long.
Such a great player and talent…but apparently made out of tissue paper.
Mike Trout being injured is not really news anymore.
He did get to experience being the best baseball player in the world for around a decade, so I think he is still doing ok.
We will never know how great Trout would have been. Just like we’ll never know how great Mantle, Griffey, Gehrig, Pujols or Clemente could have been. Pujols played, but played with a bad foot.
How many good years did they lose? They were some of the all-time greats, but they could have ended up on the Mount Rushmore of baseball players.
So I guess this is baseball now.. just star after star going down … what’s the average eOPs this year like .680?!?!?!? Got DAMM this is becoming a stupid and boring sport. “Oh my team has a chance this year!!!!!”…. half the team gets injured in the first 2 months… this sport is becoming a joke between the imbalances , non competitive teams, injuries and just pure lack of talent… it’s pretty ugly to watch
Don’t get it twisted. Trout got to experience being the best baseball player in the world for around a decade and all the hundreds of millions of dollars that go along with that. So he is still less deserving of true sympathy than almost any other person in the world, even though he is an extremely fragile broken down shadow of the player he used to be. But hey, at least he was ‘generous’ enough to pledge to donate a thousand lousy bucks to charity (hardly even pocket change for someone like him- he is paid at a rate of around $250,000 per game) for each HR hit a few years ago- which he sought and received publicity for. Albatross contract.