Marlins left-hander A.J. Puk was in the Marlins’ rotation to start this year before landing on the injured list but he will be moved back to the bullpen when he’s healthy. Manager Skip Schumaker passed the news along to Christina De Nicola of MLB.com today.
It’s not necessarily a shock that the Marlins are making this decision since the plan to move Puk to the rotation got off to a horrible start. His first four outings resulted in 14 earned runs allowed over 13 2/3 innings. He struck out 12 opponents but gave out walks to 17 of them before landing on the IL over the weekend due to fatigue in his throwing shoulder.
There was some logic to the plan, as Puk was once a highly-touted prospect in the Athletics’ system who was seen as a future major league starter. However, he required shoulder surgery in 2020 and then also had some other health issues, including a strained left biceps and nerve irritation in his left elbow.
The A’s decided to move Puk to a relief role after those injuries and the initial results were good. In 2022, Puk tossed 66 1/3 innings out of their bullpen with a 3.12 earned run average, striking out 27% of batters faced. They flipped him to the Marlins for JJ Bleday prior to 2023, and Puk continued to have success as a reliever in Miami. His ERA ticked up slightly to 3.97 but his strikeout rate also jumped to 32.2%.
After two years of success as a reliever, it’s understandable why the Marlins thought the time was right for him to see if he could move back to the rotation. From a team standpoint, they had seen their rotation depth thinned out by the trades of Pablo López and Jake Eder, as well as the Tommy John surgery of Sandy Alcántara. Since moving Puk to the rotation, that depth was further thinned by Eury Pérez also requiring Tommy John, while Edward Cabrera and Braxton Garrett battled less-significant injuries.
But the poor results and Puk’s shoulder injury seem to have convinced the Marlins to give up on the experiment, at least for now. He’ll move back to the bullpen when he returns from the IL and will hopefully re-establish himself in that role.
The Marlins can control Puk for two more seasons beyond the current campaign. Given their poor start this season, they are trending towards being sellers at the deadline this summer. Puk could perhaps be made available but the extra years of control also mean that they could decide to hang onto him.
The Miami rotation currently consists of Cabrera, Jesús Luzardo, Trevor Rogers and Ryan Weathers. Tonight’s starter is Sixto Sánchez but he’s unlikely to give the club much length since he’s mostly been pitching single-inning appearances this year and hardly pitched at all in the three previous years due to ongoing shoulder problems.
Schumaker seems open-minded about Sánchez taking the ball again, telling De Nicola it depends on how things go tonight, but Garrett is also nearing a return. Per De Nicola, the lefty is planned for four innings and/or 60 pitches in a Triple-A rehab start on Friday.
giantsfan25
Just a poor organization
Shadow Banned
What the Puk is going on?
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Alcantara, Eury, Luzardo, Garrett, Max Meyers and Rogers doesn’t sound bad to me.
The main flaw is that with a cheap owner, you have no margin of error.
You can’t really judge the new FO much until they make a trade or sign a free agent.
Now if I was their front office, Max Meyer would be in the show, starting rotation, but with an 80 pitch limit.
Mitchell Page
ABOUT TIME SAID THE A’s man going to ruin him like Yankees did to that Chamberlain guy .
CravenMoorehead
Remember the “Joba rules” and then how Hank Steinbrenner declared how Chamberlain would be a starter? Fun times!
BannedMarlinsFanBase
Yes, fun times indeed! I remember Joba was headed to Cooperstown before he pitched an MLB inning.
CravenMoorehead
Hahaha Phil Hughes too apparently
BannedMarlinsFanBase
Yep, best RH duo since Maddux and Smoltz. All they needed was a LHP who was the next Glavine to complete the set.
NationalNightmare
That would be Manny Banuelos. We have the whole rotation of the future
gcg27
Wow. He was a beast. Lmao
LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert
When will these teams learn. Just look at the Braves and Giants with Lopez and Hicks. If these guys are good at relieving, keep them there. Mariano Rivera was terrible as a starter, and was insane as a closer. If the Yankees moved Rivera back to a starter, he would have maybe lasted in the league for about 4-5 years as a backend starter. Surprised at the Braves for pulling this, but these other teams just have clueless GMS getting paid millions
Card AG
I’m sure there’s a few examples of a reliever having success as a starter as well
case
There’s a strange kind of probability math involved where a good reliever may technically have a greater individual value but, overall, the team needs a quality starting rotation to have a consistent shot at success.
braveshomer
I’m confused at your comment, seriously not talking crap. Lopez and Hicks have been good as 4th/5th Starters so far. Heck, Jordan Hicks just allowed 1 hit thru 5 innings against the Dbacks and actually pitched kinda poorly….Confused if your saying they’re wrong or right lol? But I won’t argue the most success found is a starter converting to the bullpen, not vice-versa
LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert
@braveshomer believe me, these guys aren’t going to last. You can’t throw 100% every pitch for 5 to 7 innings a night and expect success. These guys are better in short spurts. Injuries and/or just these guys getting tired out are going to hit soon enough. Its only a matter of time. The MLB season is not a sprint, its a long term marathon. I’d rather have someone like Hicks come in and pitch 60 to 70 innings in high leverage situations as a reliever instead of him throwing 80 to 90 innings as a starter only to get hurt and be out the rest of the season. Not to mention that those relief innings would definetly show better results then the starter innings, just from him being able to pitch 100%
Rishi
He only got 4 (awful) starts. It’s likely just a product of them being so bad they can’t give him a shot any longer, especially with other options looming. He deserves a chance even at AAA. He is good but isn’t an elite reliever so it’s worth a shot. Lopez has a 0.78 era. And I agree with Rivera but bringing up the best reliever ever is using an extreme case for the argument. Unlike Mo, Puk had never even had a chance to start.
gcg27
Lopez and Hicks are flourishing in rotations.. so I’m confused by your comments
Fenway 1
Feels like everyone knew this would happen at the start of the year
BannedMarlinsFanBase
Yep. that about covers it.
The only things more predicatble were that Tanner Scott would return to being Tanner Scott, and that Avi Garcia DFA Watch would continue.
I think I’m going to get the good call with Tanner Scott not being the Closer by May 1st (unless Puk is still hurt).
It’s up in the air if I’ll be right about my pick of Avi being DFA-ed by May 1st. That short-lived streak of a few hits may have extended his stay.
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Banned Marlins
I think you will be wrong on both. Tanner will be the closer until June. Puk will be an ok set up reliever. Avi will get his DFA in June as well.
But making the moves on your timeline would be reasonable.
BannedMarlinsFanBase
@MannyBeingMVP
I think you’re right.
Tanner Scott needs to blow several more games before the Marlins come to the conclusion that he sucks. Dear goodness, it’s like when guys like Tom Keohler, Garrett Cooper and Tanner Scott come play for the Marlins, they go to Little Havana or Little Haiti to one of those Botanica shops and get some spell done on the Marlins brass that secures those guys jobs no matter what.
I don’t mind Puk becoming the Closer in June. By then, Scott may have secured us with the highest percentage for the #1 pick in the draft next year.
As for Avi, yeah, with that streak of getting a few hits over a span of several games to get his batting average above his IQ, it may have bought him another month. Can’t weait until he’s gone.
Rsox
Puk could be a Josh Hader type out of the bullpen
just_thinkin
Pretty sure the Orioles are going to do the exact same thing with Wells.
BannedMarlinsFanBase
About freaking time!
Can Avi Garcia be a reliever too? He certainly is playing out of position too…and he already hits like a pitcher. I’m sure he can’t pitch much worse than our other relievers.
BannedMarlinsFanBase
Oh my! The Braves bullpen blew a save against the Marlins in the 9th inning! Did we enter a parallel universe?
BannedMarlinsFanBase
And Tanner Scott loses the game. All is back to normal in the universe.
LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert
@BannedMarlinsFanBase Tanner Scott might be the worst reliever in baseball that gets consistent playing time, only behind Drew Smith of course
BannedMarlinsFanBase
I don’t get it…but we’re the same organization that waited 5 1/2 years to realize that Garrett Cooper was never going to be healthy or worth giving job security to. Same thing previously with Tom Keohler for about 4 1/2 years. Tanner Scott is only in his 3rd year with us, so they may need at least a couple of more years to figure out he is a career middle reliever, who will never be consistent.
DonOsbourne
On a positive note, I had never heard of Ryan Weathers before this season, but I was impressed with his arm. The Marlins do seem to have an ample supply of impressive arms.
lesterdnightfly
Impressive arms, but injured arms.
And that 5.50 ERA by Ryan Weathers may be why he hasn’t earned much positive ink.
Jack5102
Still is a bad MLB pitcher….