The Phillies re-signed Aaron Nola early in the offseason, made a big push to sign Yoshinobu Yamamoto, and a chance still remains that they could make one more splash in the free agent pitching market. According to USA Today’s Bob Nightengale, Philadelphia would be open to bringing Blake Snell into the fold, but not on a long-term deal. A one-year pact or a shorter-term contract would be the Phils’ preference, or quite possibly the kind of three-year deal with multiple opt-outs recently signed by other Boras Corporation clients Cody Bellinger and Matt Chapman.
The news isn’t surprising in the sense that plenty of teams would similarly love to have Snell on these terms, though the Phillies’ interest in Snell was described by The Athletic’s Jayson Stark back in November as “lukewarm.” In Stark’s view, the Phils saw Snell as a fallback plan if they couldn’t add their higher-priority targets (i.e. Nola or Yamamoto). There is also the fact that the Phillies already have a set rotation on paper, with Nola, Zack Wheeler, Ranger Suarez, Taijuan Walker, and Cristopher Sanchez combining to form a very solid starting five.
President of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski has spoken multiple times this offseason about how much he likes his rotation options, and about how the Phils’ other forays into the starting pitching market were focused on depth additions. That said, Dombrowski also noted last month that “I can’t tell you that somebody doesn’t fall into your lap at some point where you say, ’Gee, that’s an opportunity we can’t turn down.’ ” It seems possible that Snell’s seemingly limited market might now represent such a possibility for the Phillies to get involved.
Snell’s reported willingness to consider shorter-term offers could mean that a five- or six-year contract simply might not be on the table at this late date in the offseason. Even back in mid-February, MLBTR’s Darragh McDonald wondered if Snell would be better off aiming for a very high average annual value within a short-term deal, so the left-hander could then potentially opt out next winter when the market is more favorable and more teams might be willing to spend. The Yankees, Giants, and Angels have all been linked to Snell’s market, and that list probably widens considerably should the reigning NL Cy Young winner start focusing on just short-term contracts with opt-outs attached.
Philadelphia is undoubtedly in win-now mode, and both Dombrowski and team chairman John Middleton have a history of making aggressive moves in search of a World Series crown. Signing Snell and moving to either some kind of six-man rotation or in making Sanchez something of an over-qualified swingman would improve what is already a good rotation, and no postseason opponent would want to face the trio of Snell, Wheeler, and Nola within a short series.
Even as a short-term signing, however, Snell has its drawbacks for the Phillies. The club would have to give up $1MM in international bonus pool funds and its second- and fifth-highest picks in the 2024 draft, because Snell rejected a qualifying offer and because Philadelphia was a luxury-tax payor in 2023. In fact, the Phils have crossed the Competitive Balance Tax threshold in each of the last two years and are poised to make it a trifecta in 2024, with a projected CBT number of $261MM (as per RosterResource).
This figure is already over the second-highest penalty threshold of $257MM, and adding Snell would surely put Philadelphia over the third tier of $277MM. Teams who cross that third tier face the further penalty of a ten-slot drop for their first selection in the following season’s draft, as well as even steeper financial costs. As a three-time tax payor, the Phillies would be taxed at a 95% rate for every dollar spent above the $277MM mark.
For a one-year splurge on Snell, Middleton might deem the CBT costs as worth it if the left-hander is a final piece who can nab the Phillies that elusive championship. But the risk is obvious, as if Snell struggles in 2024 or gets injured, suddenly what might’ve looked like a one-year deal with Snell opting out now looks more like a fuller commitment or two or three years, and a further strain on the Phillies’ books. This might not be ideal for a team that has been prioritizing an extension with Wheeler, and most of the Phils’ most prominent players are signed through at least 2025.
10centBeerNight
This would be great for win-now Phils
SODOMOJO
It might be the best fit for Snell in 2024. Singing him gives them a chance to match the Dodgers playoff rotation should they face them in October. For a guy who’s not going to play for a non competitive team, if he’s not getting multi years at the annual he wants. Could be a huge win win
BPax
SODO, in this scenario, the M’s should sign the hometown boy. We traded both our lefty starters. We cleared salary space. The M’s are pleading revenue issues but we don’t want to hear it. Plus, Woo and Miller are young and have shown great promise, but they also are somewhat untested for 162. And it’s said he would love to pitch here.
timmygee
MARINERS BRASS – GET OFF YOUR @SS!!! Bring the boy home and send Woo to to AAA to figure his stuff out or trade him before he loses all his value in preseason
BaseballisLife
Dodgers have one of the weakest rotations of any team expected to be in the playoffs. Most are extreme injury risks or returning from major injuries. The rest are question marks.
BPax
BBisLife, they do have James “Iron Man” Paxton.
D-Nice
What are they gunna do when they have an entire rotation coming back though. Kershaw, May, Gonsolin, Buehler and someone else who’s escaping me at the moment will come back eventually. Stone, Sheehan and Miller look ready. Then Glasgow, Yamamoto and Paxton, who will be hurt eventually, admittedly, are currently starting. It’s a good problem to have though.
Gmen777
The Dodgers might have the most volatile rotation I’ve ever seen. If everything breaks their way their depth and upside are unmatched, conversely there isn’t one sure thing in that entire rotation. Yamamoto looks special but still has never thrown a single pitch in MLB, Glasnow, Kershaw and Paxton are all serious injury risks, Buehler and May are returning from serious injuries and Miller and Sheehan are unproven prospects.
BaseballisLife
May and Gonsolin won’t be coming back in 2024. Kershaw after the All Star game and he had shoulder surgery so no guarantees. Buehler has had 2 TJ surgeries and will be more than 20 months from the last one when he finally picks up a ball this season. You can count on the fingers of one hand the number of pitchers that have returned from a 2nd TJ to be an effective starter. Out of 50 plus pitchers.
Then you have, as BPAX put it, “Iron Man” Paxton, followed by “Glass Arm” Glasnow. My wife calls him Big Balsa Paxton.
No starter on their opening day roster made more than 22 starts last season and he was a rookie. Only 1 pitcher expected to be in their roster at some point this year made more than 22 starts at any level in the US and that is Kershaw with 24.
The Dodgers starting pitching is 100% dependent on a guy who has never taken the mound in MLB. Unless he is Kershaw of old they are in deep trouble.
CarverAndrews
I will forgo whining about the lack of a back end bullpen arm addition this winter if they manage to get Snell on a short term deal… ; )
alwaysgo4two
Bold prediction. Snell will sign a 3 year deal at $25m to $28m. The deal will have opt outs the first 2 years. Actually not that bold. Bellinger and Chapman signed similar deals.
avenger65
alwaysgofor2: Just like bellinger, who thought he would get a long term, high paying contract, the owners waited out “The Boras Five” and they’re now having to settle for shorter contracts though the money is still pretty good.
EasternLeagueVeteran
Rodon already has his place in the Yankees long-term budget as a shaky investment. Stroman took up budget which could have gone to Snell, but now seems more likely earmarked to sign Soto long-term.
Misplay by Boras.
D-Nice
Other than Ohtani and Yamamoto, none of these FA were worth a long term deal. Their track records are too inconsistent. I think the cable TV instability was just an excuse. Some of them cost cutting teams would, or did try to get Yamamoto. Yet, they’re crying payroll constraints afterwards. Hmmmm.
EasternLeagueVeteran
Cable TV fiasco is not an excuse. It took down a LOT of teams budgets, and shrunk the market for mid-market teams to splurge. The $$$ from fans in the stands is not as meaningful as it was even 20 years ago.
Maybe next year could be different if the Diamond TV landscape stabilizes or some other TV organization comes into play to save the day, but this year’s FA long-term market shrank a month ago, if not more.
Buzzz Killington
Even bolder prediction. Snell signs with the Rockies.
Balk
I like this for the Phils…it’s always up to the player on where he wants to play.
nukeg
These guys need to sign soon. History hasn’t been too kind for delayed signings on starting pitchers and readiness for the regular season. The ramp up for SPs is finite and should not be overlooked. And I don’t care what Boras says, off the field workouts don’t count. Familiarizing themselves with the catchers and coaching staff is paramount.
Deez Cardinals
Wouldn’t everyone be interested in a short term deal? It would be a huge pick of the Phillies though
mlb fan
Blake Snell most likely sent at least 5-7 teams running for cover with his enormous initial ask. By the time Snell faced reality and lowered his demands, most of his suitors had already spent their alloted budgets elsewhere. Players can hold out and wait, dragging out the free agent process, but they really shouldn’t expect teams to wait with them.
brodie-bruce
@mlb fan
at least the smart teams needing to fill big roles aren’t going to wait. wait to long on plan a and it falls through you might end up with plan z because all the other guys are already gone
Mynameisnoname
How much would have these guys received if they from day 1 of free agency tried to maximize their value with 1 year deals instead of being crumb fed them?
Chapman ended up with just under the QO, while Belli landed 30. I say Snell signs for a pseudo 3/82.5 deal which pays him 27.5 before another nail biting winter.
drasco036
Sorry but if someone offered me 1/35 vs 7/175 I’m taking the 175 every time but especially if I was a pitcher.
Mynameisnoname
Drasco- Me and them too.
I’m asking since they have been forced to accept these paltry sums, what do you think they would have received if they actually wanted 1 year deals?
E.g. I think Snell has to settle for 27.5 (pseudo 3/82.5), but I feel could have received 40 mil if that was his stated intention.
Raysasineppswasplanted
Drasco, the highest offer was 150/7 by the yanks and Snell’s camp rejected and not only rejected it but they never answerback with a counter propossal…now Snell should face the reality of the mkt which is shorter term, High AAV and opt out deal
Seamaholic
You don’t know any of that.
BaseballisLife
Snell was offered more than $27.5 million long term by the Yankees.
Mynameisnoname
Sure seems like he should have taken the 5/150 when it was on the table.
BaseballisLife
The Yankees have offered more since then. We don’t know how much more, just that it exceeded what they have Rodon.
27champyankees
This is correct
filihok
Dodgers sign Snell challenge
Yes, it’s “too many” starters. Who cares?
Between the IL and multi-inning relief/piggybacking everyone will get to pitch and watch their innings
lemonlyman
You said the same thing about Woodruff 10 minutes before he reupped with Milwaukee. Everyone to LA!
filihok
lm
Yes. I believe they should sign as many good players as possible
Gwynning
They can, but do they really want Snell at $60MM+ a year? CBT issue
filihok
Gwynning
They can spend their way out of any CBT issues
Gwynning
While true, do they really want to? There is a self-imposed cap at some point… and that is quite the bill for a Snellzilla.
filihok
Gwynning
Of course they would rather not
But it would be awesome if they did
Brew88
No it wouldnt
filihok
Brew
“No it wouldnt”
You’re correct.
There is no objective measure of awesomeness
I should have said that I would find it awesome if the Dodgers signed Snell. Some other people might find it less awesome. The vast majority of the world would not care.
Thank you for holding me to truth.
Brew88
@fil haha good retort
butch779988
Both Snell and Montgomery are already a month behind. Boras is bad for baseball. Historically players that report late struggle early on.
mlb fan
“Both Snell & Montgomery are already”…Ultimately, teams will decide player’s salaries and set the market, not Scott Boras.
CoachSantoni
If they are considering Snell then they also should be exploring a trade. My choice would be trading Walker and open up 17m per year. Then extend Wheeler and sign Snell to 3 year contract for 4/100 with opt outs after years 2&3.
baseballhistory
Trading Walker with 3 years and $54m, remaining on his contract would be ” challenging”!!
Raysasineppswasplanted
I know that mlb, but in this case Boras itself is setting the mkt standards and those stds are hurting his clients and his reputation which is great for baseball. There’s a monopoly on handling the big stars and that’s no bueno
NYCityRiddler
Correction. Mr.Valentine has set the price. Ahahaha!
CeruleanDrew
Butch, I have to ask. Is your last name Reinsdorf by any chance? That would explain a lot.
TMQ
Bad for baseball? His clients wouldn’t agree with your assessment.
pohle
right now, if you ask matt chapman, who reportedly was offered 6/120 by toronto and just settled for less than half of that total, im sure he would at least consider the debate…
padrepapi
Starting a month behind is especially troublesome for Snell who has started slow each of the past three years with the Padres. I guess it’s not the biggest issue for an almost certain playoff team as few have been better each year in the 2nd half then Snell has been, at least with the Padres.
PiratesFan1981
Geez, anyone is on Snell at this point. Even the Pirates could be in on this guy. I would oppose this move though. I think his average start is 5 innings. His average innings per season is 125. For what he wants, not worth the value.
Treehouse22
Also, Snell only has one great season out of every four years, so you need to sign him to a 4-year contract. Not to mention that he’s been pitching half of his games each season in much more pitcher-friendly environs. Would be tough to pitch half of his games in CBP. SF seems like a better option for ballpark alone.
PiratesFan1981
You’d only be paying for a CY Young award. If the guy was like Kershaw, Verlander, Cole, and a few others, he could get the money he wants. His health and limited innings pitched, doesn’t give him that type of contract. 2 yr/30-35 million with incentives, seems logical. They are seriously overplaying their hand expecting more money. Over pay for the type of value Snell brings, those days are gone. This isn’t the early days of 2000s that Boras keeps trying to pull.
Annihilus
This reminds me of Dennis Schröder turning down $85m from the Lakers only to become a journeyman NBA player. After turning down $85m he settled for a contract of $2.9m. Blake Snell is essentially in the same boat. Yankees offered $150m and now we’re talking about Snell taking a short term deal with opt-outs?! Seems like Boras finally overplayed his hand.
mlb fan
“This reminds me of the Dennis”…Scott Boras has made legal history and his “brilliant” strategy of waiting until almost all teams have spent their alloted budgets will forever be taught in law schools as the Scott Boras “dunce cap” maneuver.
ChuckyNJ
Besides, we’re not talking about the NBA here.
jmaggio76
it’ll ya, these stupid QA offers kill these type of free agents every year. it really is such a dumb part of the contract part of the year. almost every year, these type of players don’t get touched and the next thing you know, they’re sitting around till June. it truly hurts the game with these players sitting around so long because of the loss potential in signing a QA.
pohle
guys definitely receive less interest when they are offered a QO(qualifying offer), but there is only one agent with multiple major clients still on the open market as of march 2024: scott boras. he has been historically notorious for this kind of client management too, harper and keuchel in the late 2010s are two of the biggest boras client examples. off the top of my head, the only recent non-boras client to wait so long into his free agency was craig kimbrel, who then secured a 3/43 deal with the cubs in june of i think 2019
stymeedone
So tell them to sign.
CleaverGreene
Classic Dombrowski move. Sell out the future for a WS win.
Canuckleball
If they get a title, it’s probably worth it.
LordD99
Probably?
920kodiak
Amen, brother. Flags fly forever.
stymeedone
Boston fans forgot about that.
filihok
Cb
“If they get a title, it’s probably worth it.”
Nah
Look at all the Red S9x and Giants fans here who are so miserable. Recent multiple tournament wins followed by some mediocre teams.
Give me a consistent contender. Baseball is entertainment. I want to be entertained by my team every year.
But, then, I don’t derive my self-worth through a company I have brand loyalty to
JoeBrady
I don’t derive my self-worth through a company I have brand loyalty to
===========================
What does that even mean? There is nothing wrong with rooting for your favorite team, your HS team, college, grammar school etc.
These things enhance people’s lives.
CarverAndrews
Your lack of perspective on DD and his approach is refreshingly cliched. As well as the fact that there is basically no truly bad one year deal for an elite player.
They are all gambles, but this could be the type of gamble that pays off, and yet the long term competitiveness of the team is not impacted in any material way.
RunDMC
Elite? He had an elite year last year, but looking at the underlining stats, he had a lot of fortune. Would that hold up in that ballpark with that defense? If he gives up the same 5.0 BB/9, very doubtful he’ll have the same strand rate and BABIP that he sold his soul to get. Which Snell will you get?
That being said, would that push Sanchez out of the rotation…or Walker?
myaccount2
You push Walker out and don’t think twice about it.
Johnny Devil
Valid valid point.Snell gives Philly 3 number 1. Best starting pitching in mlb. Love Snells stuff and southpaw.
briar-patch thatcher
How exactly is a cliché refreshing? Are you a brooding poet?
CarverAndrews
Sorry BPT – I will place the sarcasm bat signal in a more obvious location for you next time.
stymeedone
Its not? It throws the team into a higher tax bracket, which means the cost of double the salary is added to the bottom line. That can impact future spending. It also costs 2 draft picks, and the pool money associated with those picks. That affects who they can target in the draft. Giving a multi year with opt outs for the player only can definitely handcuff a team financially, if the player opts in due to injury or decline.
CarverAndrews
Mortgaging the future is adding another couple of $300M free agent deals, or trading Painter and Abel for Justin Verlander.
The downside of a short term deal is relatively minimal in comparison. You have an owner that doesn’t seem to blink, and the accounting hit isn’t littering the books for years to come. The future risk of a couple of picks vs. a short term gamble that might significantly alter the playoff landscape and lock down a WFC is something that every GM will look to do in a similar spot.
mlb fan
“Classic Dombrowski move”…Pretty silly comment; the line of teams signing up for that would be around the block. And The “Dom” is headed for the Hall Of Fame. Where are you headed?…Walmart?..Chuck E. Cheese?
stymeedone
Must be a pretty small block as most teams have spent their budgets and can’t afford to add a $25-30MM per year deal at this late date.
LouWhitakerHOF
Classic Dombrowski move? So many prospects never pan out so he does his best to put the big league club in the best position to win. Too many people value minor league success more than winning at the major league level.
Johnny Devil
DITTO
JoeBrady
Sell out the future for a WS win.
========================
It’s great that you know he is selling out the future, without actually knowing the terms of the contract.
With Snell’s talent, I’d love to see the RS sign him to a s/t contract.
I.M. Insane
Isn’t a championship the goal?
Angels & NL West
I believe there are a handful of opportunistic teams like the Phils taking a look at Snell on a short term deal. I don’t think Snell’s options are limited to just the Angels, Giants and Yanks.
LambchoP
I’d be glad if the twins surprised everyone and picked up one of the left handers. I think I’d actually prefer Montgomery over Snell though. Give him a three year deal with opt outs. That would all but lock up the central for us and make the twins legit playoff contenders:)
920kodiak
It is amazing that a two time Cy Young winner can’t snag a long term contract. Usually, teams are falling over themselves.
baseballhistory
Snell can ” snag” a long term contract, just not at the salary he is asking, or the length!!
stymeedone
Look at his non Cy Young years. Then, you will no longer be amazed.
I.M. Insane
He may have two awards, but I still don’t see him in that upper echelon of starters.
briar-patch thatcher
Pay him 30M on a 1-year deal Dombrowski. Blake Snell wants to be on the Mariners. The Mariners wasted their money on other players in the past. Pitching is the reason Philadelphia has been the bridesmaid the last 3 years.
baseballhistory
It was the bullpen ( and Thompson), not the starters!!
VonPurpleHayes
“Pitching is the reason Philadelphia has been the bridesmaid the last 3 years.”
This is absolutely not true. They lost in the playoffs because they stopped hitting against the D-Backs excellent pitching.
Johnny Devil
What phillies team were you watching????. The bullpen and the orioles new closer blew the playoffs and a 100 plus win season. Thompson didn’t help. Sign This nasty left hander dumbrowski. We don’t have a closer.
VonPurpleHayes
A 1 run lead is not safe in the playoffs, even with the best of closers. Kimbrel was overworked, and shaky on a good day. Thomson mismanged the pen in that series. If you want to blame Kimbrel for blowing a one-run lead when the Phillies pretty much stopped hitting as soon as the series moved to Arizona, go right ahead, but what about the next game when the Phillies didn’t hit? And of course game 7 where the Phillies offense was lifeless. Yeah sorry. I’m not blaming Kimbrel for this one. Sucks that he blew a save, but he should never have been in that game.
Goose
If the Phillies can get him on the Bellinger/Chapman deal it is a win win.
VonPurpleHayes
Christopher Sanchez has looked great in Spring Training. I’m not sure the Phillies really need Snell. Considering the QA picks that Snell would cost, let alone the money, it’s hard to see this deal happening.
Of course I’d be cool with it if they get it done, but it seems unlikely.
Inside Out
This would be an awful decision by the Phillies. Their starting rotation is fine and they can’t keep losing draft picks. I suspect this is more a leak by Boras to create a market that doesn’t exist to get Giants or Angels to up their offers.
DanUgglasRing
Now change the headline from “Phillies” to “about two thirds of MLB” and you’re dead on.
JoeBrady
Snell should still get paid well. Belli & Chapman had somewhat limited market due to positional concerns. Not everyone needs a CF or 3B.
But there are 5 poor teams for whom Snell could make a difference, and 10 large-market teams that should be interested.
Belli’s $80M should be the opening bid for all of those 15 teams, with the big-10 bidding each other up. A flat $125M/5 should be the minimum for the bigger teams.
Yankee Clipper
Based on the article: “A one-year pact or a shorter-term contract.”
I’m curious if anyone is going to offer him a 3-month contract, or a playoff-only contract, at like $5MM per start… lol.
Juggy
I can’t wait to this whole saga is over. It’s quite annoying at this point.
User 2161944466
Neither Philly nor the Yankees NEED him but those are the two teams that make the most sense. He’d be a waste for a team like the Giants or Angels.
ChuckyNJ
The Yankees don’t want to become the East Coast version of the Dodgers buying all the most expensive ballplayers. That line of thinking is peddled by the NYC tabloids who are in a death spiral.
VonPurpleHayes
The Yankees have no problems being that. In fact, they were that for much of their history.
CarolinaCubsandKush
It’s clear that a team is going to have to pay a ton for Snell on any one year deal and no team is willing to sign him for any lengthy contract either. The risk is obvious, but he could be a potential difference maker for a brave GM/owner combo willing to take that chance.
Then again, we still have a month of potential spring training injuries to force a hand should Snell continue to linger. A pretty curious case for a reigning Cy Young winner imo. You could likely say the same for Montgomery as well.
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
Hopefully Snell goes to the Giants and they will probably be the highest bidder. Definitely don’t want to see him strengthen either the dreaded Yankees or division rival Phillies. Yuck!
Raysasineppswasplanted
Looks like Boras is losing his touch, looks like i said, but hold it right there, the man is moving his client unto a bidding war for the shortest highest value 2 yr contract..now you see 3+ teams interested on Snelly. Quite a move Scotty, quite a damned good move¡
Gwynning
You do realize that Snell is essentially Scotty’s boss, right? Players set terms, agents work the phones, teams offer contracts, agents work the phones, players agree or disagree to terms and agents work the phones again. The End of every single one of MLB FA stories.
JoeBrady
That POV is a bit overplayed.
I make the final decision on whether I repair my car or buy new. But I depend on my mechanic quite a bit.
filihok
JB
Let’s change “mechanic” to “doctor”
You are your doctor’s boss.
Their job is to give you the best information possible so you can make a decision. They should inform you have the risks and benefits of different options. But the final decision is yours.
Same with an agent.
The agent should do their best to understand the market and the players desires. Then, they relay info between teams and the player and discuss options.
The final decision is up to the player.
cpdpoet
Guy has a talented left arm no doubt.
Unfortunately I’ll never be able to get his tonedeaf take during covid out of my head. He was live on air and was asked about taking less money due to playing less than a full season. This was when people were losing jobs left and right due to quarantine rules etc
Snell’s reply was something like “I’m goin to get my full check no matter what” His grinning stance was that just because MLB was slicing games off the sched, he was entitled to his full money anyway.
Maybe a bunch of players felt that way, but to be so stupid as to announce it over the air? He can take his talents elsewhere…
Yankee Clipper
Oh yeah, the “Imma get mine” quote…. Tone deaf is an apt description. It also illustrates just how detached from the fanbase both MLB and its players are.
Gwynning
Not to divulge too much, but Snell’s favorite thing was his Mercedes. Don’t cough near it, don’t touch it… heck, don’t even look at it. Conceited stuff. Well, long story short… he crashed it. I only smile knowing nobody was hurt.
Johnny Devil
Covid ?????? I know poets are sensitive but….Come to Philly Blake!!!!
Homer_Heins
Nobody wants to pay that kind of money and get one of his down years, but they know he’s probably going to be extra focused and motivated on a one year opt out. If I were the Dbacks, I would rather spend that money on locking up Montero.
Big whiffa
1 year 40 mil. Go win a 3rd cy young and silence the haters
radhippo
Snail to the Angels 4-125mil with opt outs!! Let’s go Peary!! Get it done!!
Balzenuf
He might as well be a snail pitching for the angels…
609Collectibles
Not sure this is necessary, but I wouldn’t be against it. The Phillies could go to a 6 man rotation to start the year, which would keep the mileage down on those arms for a potential post season run. But some of those guys, particularly Wheeler, is set in his routine and wants to pitch every 5th day. If 6 man rotation is off the table, I’d bump Ranger to the pen to start the season. Every spring it seems like he has green card issues or shows up a little out of shape and needs to ramp up. Wouldn’t be a bad idea to use him in long relief while he does, especially considering he’s the only one of the 6 who even has pen experience. Christopher Sanchez earned his job as a starter last year, and I wouldn’t mess with his head putting him in the pen. Would be Ranger for me.
User 2161944466
IF they do wind up signing him, they could try and work a trade involving Walker with the pitching hungry Giants.
609Collectibles
Or Anaheim, neither of those teams has the pitching depth to sustain a full season. I’d offer them T. Walker & S. Muzziotti for C. Estevez & Jo Addel.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
Would signing Snell make a Wheeler extension more difficult possibly causing CBT issues? If they traded Walker they’d probably be OK I guess.
Ol’ Uncle Charlie
NEWS FLASH: MANY teams are interested in a short-term CONTRACT WITH BLAKE SNELL.
greg1
Not sure why the Jays aren’t in on Snell. Anyone who saw Manoah’s first start of the spring and is not concerned about his 2024 season should have their head examined.
Nosferatu Zodd
With impending FAs I bet they don’t want the long term LT commitment.
YankeesBleacherCreature
It’s S.T. No pitcher this early is working on results. It’s about execution and fine-tuning.
Balzenuf
phils should save their money. They ain’t getting by the Braves…
frankf
The beauty of the Wild Card is that it negates that type of thinking.
VonPurpleHayes
If only we could look at recent history to see a situation where the Phillies somehow overcame the Braves in the playoffs. It seems impossible.
Dirkdiggler2398
They did last 2 years in playoffs when it counts in a 7 game series Wheeler, Snell, Nola, Saurez would be no small task for any team to overcome
Hurricane Sandy
Wow, this is present-day MLB loser’s mentality at its finest. Also, this statement would be refuted by anyone who’s actually watched baseball, ever.
frankf
Everyone would be interested in Blake Snell on a short term deal. The one exception is Scott Boras.
osfan18
I think Snell signs with SF, 3 years 60 million.
luvochka
If the Phillies are really interested in him they’ll get him. If you’re Snell the Phillies give you the best chance of a ring, and Dombrowski won’t be denied if he really wants someone.
Mrski
5 inning guy who is now using the Phillies instead of the Yankees for a contract with the giants.
carlos15
Anything he signs at this point with effectively be a short term deal cause it’ll be front loaded with an opt out after ever good start he makes
Nosferatu Zodd
I’m curious. What is the penalty for a team under the luxury tax?
Gwynning
There are no penalties for staying below the predetermined CBT number.
Nosferatu Zodd
Ughh I didn’t say that right. What would be the penalty for a team to sign a QO player if they are under the LT?
Gwynning
Np dude! The entire QO situation is very complicated, but there are basically 3 tiers of participants-
1. CBT payors lose their 2nd & 5th highest pick and a cool Mil for the following year’s International amateurs. A second “QO signing” and they would lose their 3rd and 6th highest picks but no more International cash.
2. Revenue-sharers lose their 3rd highest pick. 4th with a 2nd QO signing.
3. Everybody else. They lose their 2nd highest pick & $500k International money. A 2nd signing costs the 3rd highest pick and $500k more.
Notice the “highest” pick can be a Competitive Balance selection. This is it in a nutshell though!
padam
Would be an easy call for the Phillies to sign Snell. Ace lefty that would give them three aces to face anyone in the playoffs. The other three are inning fillers and not sure the Phillies make it too far with the upgrades the Braves and dodgers made.
nosake
Signing Snell will be like an impulse purchase at the checkout counter. Buyer’s remorse to follow.
padam
Not if it’s only for a year.
unpaidobserver
Lynn was an impulse purchase. Snell is the bottle in the locked cabinet collecting dust because you have to find the guy with the key so you just walk out the door instead of wait for him to come.
Shawn W.
Because Snell throws 95+ pitches in 5 1/3 innings, they could piggyback Sanchez or Walker with Snell every 5 days.
cmessick2080
Snell is a great pitcher however his chances for a long term deal this late is over because no team wants a pitcher that has to take a couple of months to ramp up.
SFG.1
Please sign him!
bravesfan
Under no rational circumstances should he take a short term deal at 31 years old. He’s too inconsistent and he’s aging in baseball terms. You have to take your money now.
178iq
There are about 29 other teams interested in Snell on a short term deal… why is this even a story??!! He’ll never do a short term contract, if he does, say he signs a 1-2 year deal and performs like he did in between CY awards, which are his more common pitching ability years & numbers, he will have seriously devalued himself and will never get Cole money.
808sAndMetsHeartbreaks
There was no way he was ever getting Cole money. Besides, him and Boras brought this on themselves. Should’ve taken the Yankees’ 6/$150m, they bet on themselves and lost big time. No one else was willing to pay that. Boras is stuck taking this short term w/ opt-outs route with everyone now, look at Chapman. Declining $100m+ from Toronto just to wind up with 3 years $54m.
178iq
Yes. You’re right. And Boras has been a plague on the league, now players and fans see it’s apparent he’s a plague on his clients as well. No team wanted to take more than a flier on Snell, he’s an average-y starter that had a couple stellar seasons, mind you they were not back to back lmao & now he’s sniffing around 1-2 year deals ? Come on, that will most probably lower his value like Chapman. Maybe Chapman should have texted Snell- “take the 150 mill”
Augusto Barojas
What is amazing is that any human being that does not own a company, might be troubled by getting a 3 year, 54 million contract – only b/c they “might have gotten a lot more”.
rocky7
Finally, mrs teams are beginning to stay away from $$$big money,long year deals with players who have had either their best year or one of their best years in their current contract walk year…….sometime soon, a smart team is going to write a contract offer to a player with team Opt outs in the contract so that not playing up to the back of your baseball card allows a team to get out of a big money, long term deal…..it will happen….
JoeBrady
178iq
There are about 29 other teams interested in Snell
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More like 8 teams than 29.
User 4223176798
The teams that should sign him and have money – won’t. Giants, Mariners, Twins, TB, Orioles, etc… all of these teams would be better with Snell but they don’t want to spend the money. They are content with easing their way into the playoffs with 81 wins and a wild card berth.
Old York
@True Giants Fan
Why not? With the new playoff foremast, it’s best if you’re team is fighting to get into the playoffs than have it wrapped up in early September. I think only the Astros are the only one that’s had success winning their division and going on to win the WS but aside from that, it’s best to be a WC team going in hot to the playoffs.
rocky7
I as well as many believe that the Orioles are far from an 81 win team at this juncture unless something very funny happens in Baltimore this season as well as the near future…..their lineup as well as their farm is very well positioned for success……
User 4223176798
Positioned for success I truly agree with. I keep seeing projections for mid-80 wins largely based on injuries to pitchers. Let’s see what happens. I’m rooting for them and other mid to small market teams.
JoeBrady
Giants, Mariners, Twins, TB, Orioles, etc…
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TB and the orioles are not exactly swimming in cash. And the Mariners already have 5 SPs.
User 4223176798
David Rubenstein probably has more money than Steve Cohen. And is also smarter.
178iq
Dude lol every team on earth is “interested” in Snell. I’m interested in buying the Yankees and Mets next week. Lmao
Augusto Barojas
I hope he ends up basically anywhere but Giants or Yankees. I hope a team like the Twins, O’s, Rangers, Cubs, or even Braves come in as a sleeper. Any of those teams could afford a 3 year deal if it was something like what Chapman got, easily.
808sAndMetsHeartbreaks
I feel like it’s more likely one of those teams you named pursue Montgomery. Cheaper and probably more reliable too, innings-wise.
oldgfan
The Phillies will be playing the part of the Yankees in today’s episode of As the Boras World Turns.
Phillls
Pass on Snell. Let some other team sign Patrick Corbin 2.0
Can’t pitch more than 5 innings, walks too many batters rather than challenging them and actually trying to get them out, inconsistent – due to revert back to 3 straight mediocre years as he has done in the past, not worth the money he wants, not worth losing draft picks over