On Wednesday evening, the Dodgers announced they’d fired Ippei Mizuhara, who was working as Shohei Ohtani’s personal interpreter. Mizuhara has been Ohtani’s friend and interpreter dating back to before his signing with the Angels in 2017.
Gustavo Arellano, Adam Elmahrek, Nathan Fenno and Paul Pringle of the Los Angeles Times first reported the news, which comes amidst a probe into an alleged illegal gambling operation in Southern California. Attorneys for Ohtani told the L.A. Times that the two-way star “had been the victim of a massive theft.” While that statement did not specify who had committed that alleged theft, the evident implication is that Mizuhara did so.
ESPN’s Tisha Thompson reported that upwards of $4.5MM had been wired from a bank account in Ohtani’s name to the alleged gambling ring. Sports gambling remains illegal in California. A spokesperson for Ohtani initially told ESPN that the two-time MVP had wired the money to pay off gambling debts which Mizuhara had accrued. The spokesperson later retracted that and pointed to the attorneys’ statement concerning theft.
Mizuhara and other sources told ESPN that Ohtani does not gamble and that the wire transfers covered losses which the interpreter had racked up. An attorney for Matthew Bowyer, the alleged bookmaker, said in a statement to ESPN that “Mr. Bowyer never met or spoke with Shohei Ohtani.” ESPN reports that Mizuhara had placed bets with Bowyer on various sports, not including baseball, going back to 2021.
On Tuesday, Mizuhara told ESPN that he’d asked Ohtani to pay off his gambling debts. “Obviously, he wasn’t happy about it and said he would help me out to make sure I never do this again,” Mizuhara had said. “He decided to pay it off for me. I want everyone to know Shohei had zero involvement in betting. I want people to know I did not know this was illegal. I learned my lesson the hard way. I will never do sports betting ever again.” Mizuhara had stated that he and Ohtani sent multiple wire transfers to the bookmaker in installments; ESPN observed two transfers at $500K apiece in Ohtani’s name.
Mizuhara disavowed those comments this afternoon, telling ESPN that Ohtani was unaware of the gambling debts and had not transferred any money. “Obviously, this is all my fault, everything I’ve done. I’m ready to face all the consequences,” he said on Wednesday. He reiterated that he did not place any bets on baseball.
Needless to say, MLB players and team employees are prohibited from placing bets on baseball. They are allowed to place bets on other sports, although that obviously only applies in jurisdictions where sports gambling is legal.
“The Dodgers are aware of media reports and are gathering information,” the club said in a statement. “The team can confirm that interpreter Ippei Mizuhara has been terminated. The team has no further comment at this time.” An MLB official told Andy McCullough, Fabian Ardaya, Britt Ghiroli and Sam Blum of the Athletic that Ohtani is not currently facing discipline. A league source tells ESPN that their next step is to “gather facts,” although it’s unclear if they’ll launch an official investigation.
towinagain
Er
towinagain
Um
towinagain
Well
ruff kuntry
Huh
VegasSDfan
Yup. Seems like it was timed to throw shade on this accusation. The dude is about to get investigated hard.
178iq
So 1st showtime sent the money & wanted to help the guy. Then showtime knows nothing and didn’t send a dime. Which is it?
Fever Pitch Guy
178 – Ohtani’s mother still handles his finances. Why would his interpreter have access to Ohtani’s bank account? Makes zero sense.
It’s highly likely the interpreter was a runner for Ohtani.
And BTW anyone who thinks this is uncommon among professional athletes is naive. It’s no different than the stock market. If you have inside information and are not allowed to profit off it, you let someone else put the money down for you.
Treehouse22
“Donkey Greedy, Donkey get punched”.
JackStrawb
Unless you’re in Congress, of course. Then you can do it out in the open.
The Einheri
Heh. That’s because Ohtani was still using the guy as his interpreter for the first statement. 😉
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Hey Ohtani, we said “Mookie Betts”not bookie bets!
Hey Ohtani, we didn’t have to defer your salary!
Hey Ohtani, they found six or seven figure wire transfers from your bank to a sports bookie, we are going to have to blame the interpreter!
Comrade Tipsy McBlotto
There goes Ohtani’s chance for the Hall. He will likely be banned for life in the upcoming months. Ohtani has a severe gambling problem and may have bet on baseball. The interpreter is taking one “for the team.” The marriage was simply a way to keep journalists off the track but it clearly didn’t work. Let’s see how this unfolds.
Comrade Tipsy McBlotto
And yes, my response is an unfounded canard, a joke if you will.
Comrade Tipsy McBlotto
Ohtani can just blame it on his ringworm.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Who is laughing louder tonight Arte Moreno or Scott Boras?
Mrivers
If Arte is laughing, he won’t be come next Thursday.
Lol.
stymeedone
@comrade
Too late! The conspiracy lovers read the first post, but didn’t read the follow-up. They’re now off to the races and it will be all your fault, lol.
haighwiser
Once law enforcement gets involved and he finds out he could go to prison for fraud his story will change again.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
It is more likely that his VISA would be revoked and he would be deported rather than going to jail.
TMQ
Why would law enforcement get involved?
Fever Pitch Guy
TMQ – I know Cali is very lax (no pun intended) when it comes to theft, but once Ohtani switched to the “theft of several million dollars” he had no choice but to report it to law enforcement.
Dock_Elvis
If Ohtani simply KNEW and didn’t report it….he’s in violation of the Buck Weaver ban. This does not end well. This is bad.
TMQ
You cant actually think that can you? There is no way he vet in baseball games. And if he bet on other sports big deal it’s a non story.
Dock_Elvis
His account wired large sums to an illegal bookie. Its not NO big deal. That’s a violation of the CBA itself. It’s not the girl scouts who run illegal gambling operations and I’m curious how they let an interpreter run up 4.5M in debt. They pay visits with fractional less. FBI has the bookie in Orange County.
The implication is that being in debt to gambling interests in ANY form can lead blackmail. Worst case a player agrees to alter games to pay off debts.
While Pete Rose is banned for gambling. The Dowd Report implied that he perhaps trafficked coke through Golds Gym in Cincinnati to pay off gambling debts. The lifetime ban seems a little like a basic cover-up to make the other issues to away and not blow up.
The Dowd investigators actually ran in to Federal agents while doing surveillance on Pete. The Feds were trying to bust the Coke ring.
LordD99
Ruh Ro.
WhosUrChaddy
Ippei is about to take the rap for his buddy Ohtani
178iq
It’s not easy to hack someone’s bank account and send 1/2 million with out them noticing. Let alone 9 transactions for 1/2 million each lmao I smell a rat.
Sheesh I’d like to think id notice a $20.00 payment to a random person especially if I didn’t do it.
Albert Belle's corked bat
The bank would notice under banking launder laws. Payments of 500K even. With those amounts being transferred out, he would have been notified by the bank itself……The interpreter plus a different spokesperson for Ohtani both stated Ohtani knew about it before retracting their statements.
Dock_Elvis
If he knew….we have players banned for life for less. MLB needs to be out of the gambling business period. This might be more damaging than anything steroids did to the game if investigators play the string.
At MINIMUM it calls into question the integrity of the game. Damn
Comrade Tipsy McBlotto
Rich people do rich people things. It makes perfect sense to me. The three most likely scenarios: one is that Ohtani found out and begrudgingly tried to help just before the story broke, only to have it all blow up in his face, thus leading to the firing (or possibly quitting as a gesture of good faith) and changing story as they dealt with the issue at hand.
The second is it is exactly as it sounds. Ohtani was in the dark.
The third most likely scenario is bad journalism leading to a confusing narrative.
There is a fourth scenario I didn’t want to bring up. Nah, I don’t think I should tell it. Well, okay, if you insist. The fourth scenario was told to me by an old green man a long time ago, far far far away from where I live now. He said: “Become powerful you have, the dark side in you I sense. Hrmmm. ” Sorry, let me fast forward. You don’t want to hear what he said about me. “Two realities collide in future, hmmmmm.. Chaos all around there will be. Subtle at first will be. But as worlds fully collide, fiction truth will become. Truth fiction will become. Yes, hrrmmm.” And then he said a bunch of crap I found boring so I stopped listening.
But clearly he thought the Mandela Effect was taking place which likely means the Ohtani who agreed to help his translator pay off his gambling debts became incredibly confused when no one knew anything about him agreeing to help said translator and that his entourage instead went after the man.
Also, missing from this fourth possible scenario is that in the first reality Ohtani held a huge wedding in the California desert, invited his teammates and various celebrities, and even held a contest, through Porsche, to let a person from the public become his best man. But this reality never happened in this “now” timeline. I was never his best man despite remembering it so well. I’ve said too much again.
JoeBrady
I have no idea what you just said, but I certainly enjoyed it. Too many people have forgotten the ancient languages.
Johnny Devil
This interpreter is headed back to Japan with his tail between his legs as the fall guy cause he placed bets for his buddy Shoetime. Case closed .
haighwiser
You left out the scenario that Ohtani might have been gambling himself and his interpreter is taking the fall.. This is out of MLB’s hands, guarantee it’s a federal investigation. That much money and an illegal gambling ring, especially if there are other pro athletes involved.
Comrade Tipsy McBlotto
Eh, based on almost zero evidence and Ohtani’s reputation, I would be willing to wager that he was simply embarrassed by what happened. He wanted to help his friend, the debt was more out of control than expected, a public embarrassment was coming, and they needed to go into blowback mitigation. Ohtani seems like a good guy, We was likely taken advantage of and merely wanted to, or thought about, helping out his friend and shadow, but things simply got out of control. Thus, the seeming change in narrative, likely exaggerated by the media who ran with a story they knew little about.
Johnny Devil
Ah,Ok live in that world. It’s the world where common sense doesn’t exist. I think it died around early 1990. Yeah that’s when. Read the tea leaves. Let common sense dictate. Ohtani screwed his buddy,with help from the dodgers. To much on the line.
Dock_Elvis
Probably a Fed caught the large transactions
Dock_Elvis
Simply wanting to help a friend pay off a gambling debt is enough
LongTimeFan1
Let common sense dictate….common sense which is opposite your stance that Ohtani has no integrity, broke the law, money laundered, screwed his interpreter, risked his career, participated in a conspiracy and that the Dodgers participated in this illegal enterprise.
Ohtani has been a model of integrity since he signed with the Angels. There’s nothing in his publicly known history that lends credibility to your pie-in-the-ski theory.
LongTimeFan1
Transaction greater than 10K are routinely flagged.
nosake
Amen. And this nugget for the mental midgets: Suppose you’re living and working in a country where the native language is a mystery to you. How are you gonna get by? You’re lucky enough to run into a translator whom you get to know and trust. That person becomes your lifeline and does things for you – like opening and navigating a bank account. Here’s hoping the throngs who believe Otani is culpable can wrap their heads around this pretty simple explanation.
Dock_Elvis
Noakes
I can’t believe anyone who knows much about baseball from anywhere in the world wouldn’t realize the deep implications of gambling. That’s only IF he was naive.
fivepoundbass
@nosake Are we to believe Ohtani never had a bank account before he got to the US? I imagine you can get one in Japan
JoeBrady
Ohtani has been a model of integrity
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Until he wired $4.5M to an illegal bookie.
JoeBrady
It’s well known that no one in Japan can have a bank account without knowing any English. Same with investment banks.
There are some weird world views in here. I’ve actually dealt with Japanese banks that have people that speak in all sorts of languages.
Fred
BAN OHTANI FOR LIFE MANFRED.
nailz#4life
….”and your little Dog too”
17dizzy
IF….Othani and his interpreter are as close as has been written……. You can “Bet your bottom Dollar” Othani knew his buddy was betting, what he was betting on, how much he was betting and had given his permission to use his (Othani’s) money to do it with ….. as long as the interpreter kept Othani’s name out of it.
Rexhudler86
Agree he definitely wasn’t clueless about it. It would’ve been better if ohtani said I was giving him bonuses didn’t know what he was spending it on. also probably shouldn’t used his account.
filihok
17d
“You can “Bet your bottom Dollar””
The problem is the dumb people are sure of themselves and the smart people are full of doubt
Rick Pernell
I assume a federal investigation is performed by the FBI, correct?
And
Wouldn’t a statement about Ohtani’s involvement have to come from whoever was doing the investigation?
Larry Bernandez 1324IM
Whatre the odds..
Buzzz Killington
Not in Ohtanis interpreters favor.
Shadow Banned
Dude had it made, Southern California vibe g even had his lil haircut to match. Now he’s gonna have to find a another job
trog
His cut makes him look like the old reject of a K-pop band.
Guard the Vogt
I hear the commissary in federal prison is looking for good behavior guys
Shadow Banned
Not the homie Ippeeee
Easy as 1 2 3
I don’t like his former interpreters chances
MLB Top 100 Commenter
What are the odds Shohei will play in game two in a few hours?
What are the odds that Shohei will set on U.S. soil ever again?
Will Shohei score from third base due to the interpreter’s sacrifice?
If Shohei is innocent he will hold a press conference with 36 hours and address the allegations in detail. No public statement and he will be remembered as “Triple J”, the Japanese [Shoeless] Joe Jackson.
The only thing that would make it funny (while also sad) is if Ohtani or the interpreter lost so much money because they kept betting on the Angels to make the post-season.
User 2079935927
@Manny Oh yeah it’s halirious a real knee slapped
MLB Top 100 Commenter
What is it detective John McLain says in Diehard:
Ippei-ki-yay, mother-f……..
antibelt
What do you expect from a Cubs fan?
Mrivers
Odds are……
No I won’t go there.
No investigation, says MLB.
He’s playing.
This one belongs to the Reds
I am sure the Dodgers have already given Robby the robot his marching orders on this.
Dorothy_Mantooth
I think Parlay Ohtani may not be fully innocent here.
fivepoundbass
Of course, the bookie wouldn’t talk directly to Ohtani. He would talk to his interpreter.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
The article does not say whether the bookie spoke Japanese or had his own interpreter. Nor does it allege that the interpreter net under Ohtani’s name
Hashtag-allmyteamssuck
5:1
Pads Fans
The odds of a guy making $80k like Ippei was with the Angels being allowed by his bookie to make enough bets to lose a half million at a time? You have better odds of winning the lottery.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Unless Ippei lied and said that he was Ohtani and backed up the lie with transfers from Shohei’s bank. Not saying that happened, but I can see the story being attempted.
Pads Fans
He is his interpreter, so that is possible. The bookie would still want to know who was responsible for paying the bill by meeting him . Ohtani had to be involved from the start.
Ohtani has an entire team of people that manage his money. Its highly doubtful that Ippei had enough access to be sending off half million payments to the bookie with NO oversight. Someone saw that and Ohtani knew about it immediately even if he was not the one making those bets.
All of that points to one thing. The whole thing stinks and Ohtani and Ippei were lying in BOTH statements. The one where Ippei said that Ohtani was paying off his gambling debts AND the one later when he changed his story and said he stole that money from Ohtani.
NEITHER one is plausible.
BrianStrowman9
Ohtani could’ve easily never met that bookie. Would be next level stupid if he did. (This is already stupid on his behalf).
If the interpreter fronted the first $500K from Ohtani’s bank account—strong chance he’d wind up giving him a line of credit.
Shohei definitely knew early on if not from day 1 though.
websoulsurfer
Met doesn’t mean in person. No bookie that takes high dollar bets is going to do so without knowing exactly who is placing the bets. Of course Ohtani knew from day one.
bucsfan0004
How can someone be so bad at sportsbetting? Must be lost in translation
Fever Pitch Guy
bucs – He probably bet against UConn for the past couple years.
kingbum
FPG that would explain it
Cat Mando
Even Rose wasn’t very good, even when betting on baseball or the Reds. Heck, in one day he lost the equivalent, in today’s money, of $42,000.
JayPhilsFan
Maybe he thought it was yen.
jorge78
LOL
Cheap Seats
It’s almost like gambling is a sure way to lose money. Who knew? And I thought bookies performed a public service.
kingbum
There are what they call sharps out there that routinely win in the betting world. If you are betting big and got a reputation as a sharp your bet moves moneylines in Vegas. There are some like Sean Perry in which the casino will refuse your action, you have to give the money to someone else and have them place your bets. Harabolos Volgaris is probably the most famous sharp. He was so good at betting basketball that Mark Cuban gave him a front office job.
JackStrawb
And then there’s Phil Ivey in the poker world. He took a London casino for millions after spotting something about the cards they used that would give him an edge—and indeed it did.
They won’t be letting him through the door again any time soon.
kingbum
Edge sorting….Ivey figured out that the manufacturers of some decks had imperfections on the edges of face cards. Crocksford made the mistake of using the deck of cards Ivey brought with him. There are concessions casinos will make in order to get a whale gambler. He didn’t even get caught in London, it was at the Borgata in Atlantic City where they realized what he was doing, when the Borgata refused to pay Ivey that’s when Crocksford decided to sue. This was 10 years ago and I think it just got settled.
therealt_rev
Huge GAMBLE by the dodger’s firing his boy!
coupofthecentury
Ohtani, Betts batting 1 then 2 makes all the more sense now.
Seamaholic
The retraction of the first statement, which was pretty detailed and there was no reason to doubt, absolutely SCREAMS that there’s more here. That he’s covering something. The bookie’s assertion that he’s never personally met Shohei is immaterial and therefore also suspicious as hell. That the news broke when the team (and the interpreter, I assume) is in the Far East and thus out of reach for the feds is also interesting.
Yankee Clipper
At least Ippei knows his family will be well taken care of….
Seamaholic
Yeah Shohei is a national treasure. If there’s any indication he’s at fault here, no matter what the fault might be, the Japanese legal system won’t let the American feds interview the interpreter, I bet.
IronBallsMcGinty
As a baseball fan, I like Shohei as much as anyone. Although, if it was any other player, they’d be suspended pending investigation. It’s also strange that it’s all cleared up as soon as it’s reported.
Hopefully he’s not really involved in shady practices.
Edp007
Thinking exactly the same. As a fan love ohtani
IsIt2025Already?
He is involved in shady practices. Story doesn’t add up.
VegasSDfan
Seems really suspicious
chiefnocahoma1
What are the chances the Dodgers and MLB aren’t working together to cover this up? Pretty slim I’d guess. There’s just too much money at stake.
Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee
I doubt Ohtani’s interpreter has diplomatic immunity for a California crime….
haighwiser
Try federal crime
kingbum
However if the interpreter is in Japan, good luck getting the Japanese authorities to go find him so he can be sent back to California. Murder, rape, assault sure they would help but this? I don’t think so….
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Hey Friedman, Scott Boras on line one.
He has this DH named JD Martinez looking for work, maybe you remember him?
CardsFan57
Was the bookie’s statement about Ohtani in response to a question? We know next to nothing at this point.
freeland1787
That came from his lawyer, who was named in the ESPN article.
Cam
“I have no context, no further information, and no involvement with this situation, but trust me bro”
Informed Sportsball Discussion
The man is right the story changing looks very very bad.
Fever Pitch Guy
seam – The most telling clue that this is a coverup …. Ohtani didn’t discover or do anything about the “theft” until the illegal gambling probe.
If the probe never happens, the “theft” doesn’t either.
Go Go Power Rangers
I’d suggest reading other coverage of the scandal because there’s more to it than what’s here. Like the “debts” were paid off last year, his interpreters comments on the probe, verbatim etc
Rishi
Do you think the lack of consistency could point to his possibly being bitter about the situation or is he just slow?
VegasSDfan
Change your statement to avoid implicating yourself in a crime.
Rishi
Or perhaps something was lost in translation.
Rexhudler86
@rishi how did the dodgers president know about this he said he knew about it happening with the angels, but ohtani didn’t strange right. My guess is they realize it could require jail time for the both of them because it’s illegal in California. So they walked it back, and said theft that way it’s on ippei
JoeBrady
said theft that way it’s on ippei
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Just conjecture on my part, but:
1-If they sent Bowyer, say $1M in 2021, and the IRS doesn’t see $1M or parts of it on his tax return, Bowyer has incentive to talk.
2-If Ohtani/Ippei spin it right, then Ippei “stole the money” and pleads guilty in Japan. Ohtani testifies on Ippei’s behalf, and the courts in Japan aren’t going to judge this harshly. A few month’s in their equivalent of Club Fed, and everything disappears.
There is no one anywhere, not even in SF or SD, that wants to see this impacting the season.
websoulsurfer
It’s a federal investigation in the US about a crime committed in the US and using US based bank accounts. It will go to court here in the states.
nando390
You’re an imbecile
Mrivers
The only issue here is the sending of money to the bookie for an illegal activity.
Could/should warrant a suspension but that’s about it.
stymeedone
That’s all Pete got. A suspension…for life.
Fever Pitch Guy
Mickey – If either Ohtani or his interpreter are gonna engage in illegal sports betting activity, they are not gonna bet on college basketball or the NFL. The only American sport that is popular in Japan is MLB, and it’s very likely the only American sport they both follow and know a lot about.
Zero chance the Dodgers or MLB will come down on the face of MLB and one of the greatest MLB players ever.
MLB cares only about money, not integrity.
GASoxFan
Fever, while it all depends on who will take the fall and how – one thing we’ve learned is if you keep your mouths shut and hush money changes hands, investigations end – the irony of your last two sentences isn’t lost on me when I replace dodgers with reds and think rose.
Past history would’ve made him think he’d get off clean too, too bad he didn’t hire an interpreter to blame it on….
Fever Pitch Guy
GASox – Because Ohtani claimed theft, law enforcement had to be involved. Based on Cali’s reputation of going easy on criminals, even if there’s a conviction based on a “confession” the sentence will likely be very light and well worth the compensation that the interpreter would likely receive for the coverup.
Right now it looks like the only member of the Dodgers that may have stolen millions is Yamamoto.
RocDog19
Lol….Isn’t his ERA somewhere around 45?
JackStrawb
@Seamaholic Assume for the moment this is legit—why would Ohtani go to meet the book? That doesn’t happen in our sad tech era, especially with bets as trivial as 60k here, 80k there.
Set up an account, establishing your identity, then bet.
What’s odd is that there’s any money owed when the typical bet is put up by the bettor in advance of the game being bet on. That’s the seam that is being probed.
TMQ
Why would the feds care?
Yankee Clipper
Because it’s the Federal Bureau of Investigation who determined that Ohtani’s account wired funds to a bookie whom was a target of their illegal gambling investigation.
Fever Pitch Guy
Clip – That’s how most high profile people get caught in illegal activity. They personally aren’t targeted, it’s the people who they do business with that were targeted.
Case in point, Robert Kraft wasn’t the target when he got arrested.
Stan Not the Man
Ohtani is lying, he bet on baseball thru his interpreter stooge.
Braves_saints_celts
Oh yeah ohtani definitely didn’t see 4.5 million come out of his account.
It’s theft I tell you!!! Theft!!!
Yeah bs
RunDMC
The entire Jaguars franchise didn’t see over $22M disappear from their accounts from one of their own to pay off his gambling debts.
espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39066674/lawyer-says-ex-ja…
Braves_saints_celts
That’s bs, id notice if $100 was taking out my account. It’s a way to save face. Just like any bank owner you get notified of any transaction that takes place big or small via text message or email, and if you don’t to the online stuff you still get paper banking statements and transaction histories mailed to you. This has been going on since 2021, no way in hell he didn’t see at least one of those $500,000 payments sent directly from his bank account. It’s not possible. This started before he signed the largest MLB contract ever, he might not check his account now, but before when he was still with the angels him and his financial advisors definitely kept track of it. Nobody can tell me otherwise. Cry theft to save face and have his interpreter take the fall. Don’t worry ohtani will still be hitting bombs while he makes sure his enterpetur enjoys and early retirement.
Seamaholic
Yeah there’s almost no way that’s true. Shohei is surrounded by his people. Even if he didn’t notice, one of his army of financial people would have. If there’s anything known about Ohtani, it’s that NOTHING in his life is not planned and obsessed over.
Cam
Corporate fraud is a bit different to you losing the equivalent of stripper money.
lasershow45
4.5 million to Ohtani would be about 7 dollars to you…
medic87
well, when you account balance is $729, you would notice a 100 missing, Maybe not if your balance is $500 million.
Guard the Vogt
Well no duh Cam, but to say you didn’t see 4.5M missing is absurd regardless of how much money you have. Interpreter doing his best Ray Lewis body guard impression
JoeBrady
Maybe not if your balance is $500 million.
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1-If he has $500M, it means he probably made $1B before taxes. Do you really think he’s already made $1B?
2-Most people don’t keep this around in their checking account. In order to access that type of money, you would like need to convert other assets to cash. That is another step entirely.
Fever Pitch Guy
Joe – So what you’re saying is he would have to sell all his Gamestop and AMC shares.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Good point, although many wealthy people have linked investment funds/portfolios that can be transferred to checking with a single click.
Pads Fans
Only if the total amount of money in your bank account was $70 or less.
websoulsurfer
You have to liquidate those investments for it to be turned into cash. Its not liquid funds.
Easy as 1 2 3
22 mill never disappeared from Jaguars accounts in a traditional sense.
Federal investigators allege Amit Patel manipulated the Jaguars’ virtual credit card (VCC) program to steal $22,221,454.40 during a scheme that began in September 2019 and ended in February after an NFL investigation and his subsequent termination.
Idk if you know how virtual credit cards work……but it’s not taken from accounts. It’s borrowing money and accrued as debt you have to pay back. So no the jaguars wouldn’t notice it as easily if you’re adding things constantly to the debt you owe over time and paying it off constantly.
Also, the individual involved had access to finances related to the organization
Why would an interpreter have access to ohtani account info? If he was his financial advisor accountant I’d buy it more. Not his interpreter.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Easy
Or will Shohei say that he just scotch-taped his bank account password to his laptop? Should be able to trace location where transaction originated.
Easy as 1 2 3
You can trace locations. And which ip address it originated from and where.
0 reason the interpreter has access to ohtanis financials. Especially MULTIPLE exchanges.
lasershow45
I can think of about 4 right off the bat.
BaseballisLife
Difference there is Patel was the team’s CFO and in this case its just a friend. Do your friends have YOUR bank account info. Can they transfer a large percentage of your money without you even knowing?
jorge78
Large percentage?
Ohtani makes $50 million
in endorsements a year…..
lasershow45
It’s less than 5%.
More importantly, to let you in on a little secret,
Rich people don’t check their accounts
GASoxFan
$50m in California… between local, state, and fed taxes as a high earner, probably nets 20-30m a year. If someone drained 8.5% of your income out, I’d think you’d notice…
Besides which, I think the fact that the statements were made publicly means they first thought there was no crime, just a mlb prohibition issue, before later learning criminal penalties would apply.
No interpreter is stupid enough not to realize any statement he made in English wouldn’t be translated and reported on in Japanese back home where ohtani would hear of it. There was no 4.5m theft….
Guard the Vogt
Laser — More importantly, to let you in on a little secret,
Rich people don’t check their accounts….
They have people do it for them which makes it just as suspicious lololol. Someone not rich
JoeBrady
Rich people don’t check their accounts….
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Every one of my accounts, no matter how small, sends me a text with a withdrawal exceeding $xxx. Same with my credit cards.
BaseballisLife
Ohtani made $35 million in endorsements last season. $20 million the year before. $6 million the year before that.
Yes, $4.5 million is a large percentage of his income. Its >>10% of his his take home after taxes in 2 countries and agent fees.
BaseballisLife
I’m one of those rich people. I’ll let you in on a not so secret piece of info, I have a team of people that check my accounts and if 1% of my total earnings was transferred out of my accounts I would be informed that day. So does Ohtani.
$4.5 million is >>10% of Ohtani’s take home pay during the time that the gambling was happening and I can guarantee you he spends and invests that money so his bank account holds far less than that. It was probably >>25% of the money held in a single account.
cuban1
“Rich people don’t check their accounts, derp”.
A rich person leaving their accounts in other peoples hands while not checking them as you claim is how a rich person becomes an unrich person very quickly. Maybe your logic isn’t quite as sound as you think it is.
Pads Fans
The most Ohtani has ever made was $35 million in a year. In the years this gambling was happening he made between $6 and $20 million per year in endorsements.
He doesn’t bank that much. Taxes in the US, CA, and Japan take a big portion, probably 30-50%. Agents take 3-4%. Investments take up a portion. Spending takes up a large portion of that income. His mortgage is probably $200k per year on the home he has in Newport Beach, plus property tax, insurance, staff like maid and landscaping maintenance, physical property maintenance, etc…I bet his PGE bill alone is $3k per month on that place. He also has a similarly valued home in Japan with similar expenses tied to it. Then you have what he pays the team in charge of marketing the Ohtani brand and with managing appearances and travel and in managing his money and in … everything else that goes with it, and you have another couple of points that come out of that income before it hits the bank.
I would be surprised if even 10% of his total income is in the bank and liquid. So if you take his MLB salaries and his endorsement income from 2019-2022 and then based his bank account size on 10% of that number, you are probably looking at $2-3 million, maybe less. So a half million withdrawal is a huge percentage of the liquid capital he has in the bank at any one time.
I am not in that income bracket. My annual income is in the low 7 figure range. My tax attorney, CPA, and investment counsel handle most of my money. At any one moment I don’t have more than $200k liquid and sitting in a bank account and typically its much less than 10% of my annual income. The rest is invested, tied up in other ways, or spent. Someone in that group of people that handle my money would notice if $20k was moved, that is literally what I pay them to do, and I would get an almost instant notification. My phone would blow up. My bank would send a notification. My small team of money managers would call or text immediately. To think that it is that much different for Ohtani is not plausible.
He may be a “dumb jock” that handles all his own finances, but having seen his attention to detail on both the baseball training side and on the marketing apparatus that sells his brand, I am quite sure that he is not that loose with the money his baseball skills and marketing is creating.
Do you?
JoeBrady
I’m one of those rich people.
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And I am one of those poor people. If I move money between funds, it requires a log-in and a password. Once successful, I receive PIN code on my phone. Then, after making the transaction, I receive a confirmation E-mail.
It’s the same thing at work. I get notified of wire transfers that have nothing to do with my little fiefdom. All our credit cards notify me for large transactions.
RedFraggle
Jags are an entire franchise with payroll, expenses, multiple employees, etc.
Ohtani is one dude with bank accounts. I think it’s probably easier to hide or miss it with an entire team/company.
BaseballisLife
It was virtual credit card debt out of $400 million the team spent over a 4 year period and the crime was committed by the person that was in charge of the Jaguars finances. Not by a fiend who is a translator.
VegasSDfan
How does someone digitally take 4.5 million from you rofl.
Hopefully, that 700 million is guaranteed, even if Ohtani is permanently banned from baseball.
kcmark
Actually not. There are morality clauses in the contract.
TroyVan
It was a stream. The transfers (plural) took place over time and totaled $4.5 million. So, it wasn’t just one “hidden” transfer. It was multiple or many. Marked as Loan to the bookie. All went unnoticed.
Riiiiiiight.
RedFraggle
At least 2 were for 500k apiece so that should be fairly noticeable to most people.
This one belongs to the Reds
Anything over 10k is considered suspicious in banking. Just saying.
Edp007
All very fishy. First Ippy says Sho was with him at the computer when funds were transferred. Then took it back. Said was him alone. Throws in Shohei doesn’t gamble. Guy makes 300k a year. Owing 4.5 mill seems a bit out of his league. Wonder if he’s taking a hit for Shohei. 700 mill contract annulled for gambling ??? Can’t have that
truthlemonade
Wow, a personal interpreter makes $300k? I know that the interpreter is expected to also be like a personal assistant, perhaps always on call, but nice work if you can do it and keep it.
Seamaholic
He makes whatever Shohei says he makes. That’s part of the contract negotiations.
28rings
Keep it? All bets are off.
Fever Pitch Guy
truth – I’d rather be the dogwalker earning $150K …. less travel, more women.
youngliam
Yeah, I think if they prove that the betting wasn’t on baseball and only other sports the ethics of it lighten a bit but still illegal, probably not as big of an MLB suspension like if it were on baseball.
stymeedone
Since it was illegal, maybe being concerned about the legal penalty is more important than what MLB does. Is it a state or federal crime? Felony or misdemeanor?
saluelthpops
This wreaks of a cover-up involving a fall guy . . .
28rings
I was thinking the same thing like when the BALCO guy refused to testify against Bonds / Giambi & took the contempt of court charge instead.
28rings
Hopefully Ohtani’s interpreter decides to rat him out like Arod’s cousin did
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Respectfully, reeks not “wreaks”
saluelthpops
Thank you.
Portland Micro-Brewers
Will dodgers void the contract like with Bauer?
Yankee Clipper
They won’t need to. If he’s tied to a violation of sports gambling he will be booted from baseball for life, which will exceed the 10-year contractual commitment.
Braves_saints_celts
No they will not. Everybody knows this will be swept under the rug and ohtani’s enterpetur is taking the fall. He gets an early retirement and ohtani will make sure he’s set for life for taking the fall, and ohtani can still hit bombs without being scrutinized.
IronBallsMcGinty
A premier player in his prime who just signed the biggest contract and is highly marketable. Yeah, they’re definitely gonna approach this differently. As a result they could end up setting a bad precedent going forward.
So much for the wholesome and squeaky clean image.
stymeedone
They’ll just give Pete a slap on the wrist. After all, he’s the All-Time hits leader, and the face of Baseball.
Seamaholic
Different time, VERY different Commissioner.
28rings
Pete would’ve been reinstated by now but he can’t shut his mouth. Selig also hated him and a lot of people blamed him for Giamatti dying.
PoopMonster
Notice how the headline is “accused of”. I don’t remember Bauer getting the same benefit of the doubt in headlines.
Seamaholic
He certainly did. Your memory is faulty.
IsIt2025Already?
No he didn’t haha.
Easy as 1 2 3
Well the fact mltr had to close comments on when mlb put Bauer on administrative leave, I’d definitely think this site DID NOT give him benefit of the doubt.
I’m sure they closed the comment section cause people were talking about giving Bauer the benefit of the doubt is very polite ways /s
mlbtraderumors.com/2021/07/trevor-bauer-reportedly…
disadvantage
@easy
Bauer was also accused of sexual assault and not sports betting. One of those things is not like the other.
Oldguy58
Accused
Easy as 1 2 3
@disadvantage
Poop monster: I don’t remember Bauer getting the same benefit of the doubt in headlines.
Seamaholic: He certainly did. Your memory is faulty.
Me: he definitely did not on this site
Reading is fundamental kids. It’s an important skill to be able to read a comment thread properly.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Disadvantage
Agreed.
Victims of sexual battery are often traumatized reading about these things.
I have not heard the same for people with gambling problems.
disadvantage
@easy
No need to get hasty! @poop highlighted that Bauer didn’t receive the same benefit of the doubt as Ohtani. You echoed this sentiment, adding, “Well the fact mltr had to close comments on when mlb put Bauer on administrative leave, I’d definitely think this site DID NOT give him benefit of the doubt.” And I pointed out that it’s pretty clear that the reason for closing comments was directly linked to the accusations of sexual assault against Bauer, wouldn’t you agree?
And while it’s true that my reading comprehension skills are lacking, if you’re going to insult someone’s English skills, I’d like to point out that it is, “I’d definitely think this site DID NOT give him THE benefit of the doubt,” and not “I’d definitely think this site DID NOT give him benefit of the doubt.” Just a reminder not to throw rocks in glass houses.
Easy as 1 2 3
I did not insulting your English skills. Sorry if you felt that way.
I offered a friendly reminder that I am not saying Bauer should or should not be given benefit of the doubt
Simply saying here at MLBTR he was not given benefit of the doubt.
disadvantage
I mean, “Reading is fundamental kids. It’s an important skill to be able to read a comment thread properly” comes off pretty patronizing. Which is fine! We’re on the internet after all, and I came at you, so I had it coming. I just don’t really understand how it applied to the situation being discussed.
But anyway, I’ll double down and point out that it was not that Bauer wasn’t given the benefit of the doubt, but that sexual assault allegations will often result in closed comments by default. Either way, cheers to you and have a nice day.
Easy as 1 2 3
Reading is fundamental. For everyone
In today’s world and depending on how you access content yes reading a comment section correctly is an important skill. I know the web based site doesn’t make it obvious on my phone
I think I see the confusion. I’m not saying mlbtr didn’t give him benefit of the doubt yes they do close comment sections. I am saying commenters did not. And still don’t even though he’s exonerated
BaseballisLife
Then you post an article that says “Trevor Bauer Reportedly” as the 1st 3 words of the headline.
Maddog1983
No he absolutely did not Are you kidding me? Considering if you would have gotten the benefited out he would still be playing Major League baseball right now considering he didn’t rape that woman based on all evidence.
Poppin' Balls
“…important skill to be able to read a comment thread properly.” Lol.
It definitely isn’t as Easy as 1 2 3.
JackStrawb
@Oldguy58 This will always elude nearly everyone.
28rings
True, there isn’t a sign in every clubhouse in the majors and minors warning players and coaches about sexual assault… and sexual assault never threatened to destroy the game.
stymeedone
That’s on your memory. If they didn’t, it would have been libel.
Pads Fans
And yet he did. On this very website.
User 4095290658
I now officially hate the Dodgers like I hated the Yankees in my youth.
CravenMoorehead
Only Dodger moment I enjoyed was at the end of the movie “The Sandlot” when grown-up “Benny the Jet” Rodriguez stole home
Bucket Number Six
YOU SPOILED IT FOR ME!
CravenMoorehead
Some days you’re the hammer other days you’re the nail fam
hiflew
You had 30 years to catch up, I think you spoiled it for yourself.
Bucket Number Six
Next on my list, The Crying Game. NOBODY better spoil that one.
hiflew
Teeny weeny peeny. And just to save time. Kevin Spacey is Keyzer Soze in Usual Suspects. Leonardo DiCaprio dies in Titanic. Bruce Willis is dead the whole time in Sixth Sense, And Brad Pitt is just an imaginary friend in Fight Club. And in real life, the Y2K scare turned out to be nothing.
28rings
Don’t forget Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker’s father and Rosebud is the name of a sled.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Thanks?
BlueSkies_LA
Weird to hate the Dodgers since all of this happened when he was employed by the Angels.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
BlueSkies
I get your point, but, honestly, after Bauer the Dodgers had to implement a screening process before extending nine figure contracts. If they did not want to offend Ohtani by conducting due diligence interviews, that is on the front office. If Ohtani is implicated, this will alter the franchise for a long time. Let’s see if Shohei is playing in five hours or not.
BlueSkies_LA
I’m trying to imagine the interview that includes the question “is your interpreter stealing money from you?” Besides, you have to know that anyone who wants to believe he was implicated always will believe it, no matter what anyone says. Just look at the comments here.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
No, but they needed to ask Ohtani if he had every gambled, if he had ever associated with a bookie, who has access to his bank accounts, this was a $460 million deal – the vetting process needed to be like a corporate acquisition in its thoroughness.
BlueSkies_LA
And the answer to those questions would be? No, no, and nobody else has ever been asked that question. I’m seeing an awful lot of prejudging going on here when we know almost nothing about the situation.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Blue Skies
Before I offer $460 million, I am doing background checks on his posse.
Yes, there is prejudging. I think that is to be expected under the circumstances. Let’s see if Shohei is playing in four hours or not. I feel bad for Yamamoto to have this huge cloud regarding Shohei hanging over what should have been one of the most exciting days in Yamamoto’s professional career.
Easy as 1 2 3
Did ohtani ever associate with a bookie
Blueskies_ LA : no
Mizuhara had stated that he and Ohtani sent multiple wire transfers to the bookmaker in installments; ESPN observed two transfers at $500K apiece in Ohtani’s name.
Yeah bookmaster just had 1 mill in ohtani’s. Must’ve been the other shohei ohtani.
Still wanna go with no?
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Easy
Well for now Blue Skies is assuming that Shohei learned today for the first time that the interpreter stole this money.
There are two other alternatives- of course one is that Shohei was gambling.
Then there is the rather implausible theory that Shohei learned of the theft before signing with Dodgers but continued to use the interpreter, and concealed that from the Dodgers.
I believe that a thorough examination of the interpreter’s lifestyle and paper trail will make it easy to see if this was pure theft by the interpreter or a coverup for Ohtani. I would like to know did the interpreter have access to the account or did Shohei just allegedly tape his password to his laptop?
SadHaloFan95
Ohtani is in the lineup. With no one from MLB reporting it either… looking at this being swept under the rug unfortunately.
Easy as 1 2 3
Anything dodgers do this year comes with an * and will never be recognized as a legit season long as ohtani plays. He should be on admin leave till this is cleared up.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Why? This is VERY suspicious but there are no allegations (yet) of betting on baseball and nothing since he has joined the Dodgers. Nor has Shohei done anything that would give him an advantage while playing. So, it seems to me that he should be allowed to play while what should be one of the most rigorous investigations ever begins to be undertaken. I am willing to giove Shohei a day or two to personally make a public statement – after all, he does need to find a new interpreter to do so. LOL
JackStrawb
@MannyBeingMVP I think the chance that the Dodgers get out of this with a whole skin is very good.
If Ohtani is implicated the Dodgers sign JD Martinez, they lose a couple of wins out of the DH slot, and off they go, everything depending on how many good arms they can baby into the postseason.
Ohtani at the worst will never play a game for the Dodgers, they’ll have $46m a year to make up for that loss, and they’ll be fine.
Cheap Seats
I think right now Yamamoto is happy about the distraction and thinking about other big news stories he can plant before his next start. Watch out, Freddie and Mookie.
BlueSkies_LA
Manny, I’m probably the only one here who is not assuming anything. I can’t assume anything or form any intelligent theories because I don’t know anything. But then, neither does anyone else.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Well, we know what has been reported and we know what the interpreter has said and then recanted.
I have two main points. Ohtani will need to quickly make a public statement and take questions or public opinion will rapidly turn on him. If Ohtani has secrets, he needs to divulge them.
In my experience, the paper trails obtainable via subpeona will be very illuminating and dispositive.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Couldn’t we say, after all, that this is much ado about nothing??? Whether Shohei knowingly bailed out Ippei, or Ippei went beyond his purview and appropriated the funds unbeknownst to Shohei…either way Shohei was going to help his BFF out of his mess. No victim, no crime, right?
BlueSkies_LA
If you are saying the story yet to be known will eventually be, then you are merely saying what I said in a different way. To that I am adding that until such time, theories are nothing more than guesswork based on assumptions.
BlueSkies_LA
Again, all based on assumptions. All we can say at this point is if Ohtani did knowingly bail Mizuhara out of his illegal gambling debts then that was potentially a chargeable offense, though it is only rarely charged. What we don’t know is if he did do that, and even if he did, if anyone can prove it. Either way the commissioner will have to perform his own investigation.
hiflew
It is NEVER weird to hate the Dodgers for any reason.
ButchieYost619
MLB will protect this clown at all costs.
User 4095290658
Unfortunately so.
CravenMoorehead
Maybe Ohtani possibly got caught placing bets by the FBI?
MLB cannot afford to lose all those billions off of marketing Ohtani obviously…hmmmmmmm
Yankee Clipper
Reports do say the FBI is involved, so that’s very logical. I can tell you that the reason he changed his story is that when it came out he paid off the debts, it was unintentionally confirming Ohtani engaged in illegal [gambling] activity as a principal or conspirator.
It’s going to be really interesting to see Robbie “the snake” Manfred slither around this one.
CravenMoorehead
I mean he already gave the Houston players free passes…
VegasSDfan
Padres fans should start making signs about Ohtani to distract him. He is in serious trouble with this story. He should be suspended immediately.
drprofsps
As a Rangers fan I agree, those Houston players should have received a life time ban for cheating like the black Sox in 1913 or 1909, I don’t remember the year but 6-7 players got life time bans, now Pete Rose is still banned and I am sure he never bet $4,500,000 bucks. Free Pete Rose!!!!!!
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Sign number one:
“Worst story since ringworms”
Sign number two:
“Story has bigger hole than Jake Cronenwerth’s glove”
Go Go Power Rangers
@Yankee Clipper I also think that’s the reason. No matter the intention that first story could definitely stir up some trouble for ShoTime.
28rings
Padres have fans? Plural?
websoulsurfer
There can only be penalties for actions by players if its covered in the CBA. That was not covered in the CBA so Manfred had no possibility of giving them any kind of penalty.
All he could do is what he did, suspend team employees and officials and fine the team.
websoulsurfer
Not suspended, but definitely placed on administrative leave.
websoulsurfer
What they did was not against the rules according to the CBA. They could not be suspended.
Since the Commissioner’s report about the electronic sign stealing found that in 2017 9 other teams besides the ones that had been penalized (the Astros, Yankees, and Red Sox) had done similar electronic sign stealing, should ALL of the players involved get a lifetime ban or just the Astros players?
websoulsurfer
Only the Dodgers had more fans in attendance last season and the dodgers play in a stadium that seats 55k vs 40,509 in Petco.
baseball-reference.com/leagues/majors/2023-misc.sh…
Padres have already sold more tickets than they did all of last season and they haven’t played a game at home yet.
timmygee
C’mon Cravenhead…… Quit watching FOX News Conspiracy Hour
Maddog1983
Since you brought politics into this CNN and MSNBC Why way more often than Fox News does and I don’t like Fox News
el rey
Maybe you should watch fox news. You might learn something.
MetsSchmets
Maddog that’s patently false. Not my opinion either, US courts have ruled on this. Fox lied so much they cannot be called “news” anymore.
MetsSchmets
El Rey that’s terrible advice.
Oldguy58
Manfred will investigate this with as much tenacity as he did to see if the Dodgers tampered with Ohtani
Yankeesforever
OhOhtani
ham77
Falling on his sword to cover for Ohtani?
CravenMoorehead
JACKPOT
MLB Top 100 Commenter
It should be easy to look at the interpreter’s past lifestyle. If he was stealing and betting millions there will be a paper trail of other indicators that won’t exist if he is just taking the fall.
BlueSkies_LA
Keep in mind, these illicit sports bookmakers take bets on credit.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
That’s fine, but give me a subpoena duces tecum for all of Ippea’s financial records and I will be able to draw a quick intelligent educated guess as to whether he is the high stakes gambler or if it is Shohei. Even more so with additional subpenas duces tecums for Shohei’s financial records. The paper trail will exist in one direction or the other.
BaseballisLife
The bookie will also be hit with a subpoena to produce his banking and other records as well if he hasn’t already. Its a federal investigation into a gambling ring that Ohtani is only a small part of.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Couldn’t we say, after all, that this is much ado about nothing??? Whether Shohei knowingly bailed out Ippei, or Ippei went beyond his purview and appropriated the funds unbeknownst to Shohei…either way Shohei was going to help his BFF out of his mess. No victim, no crime, right?
Pads Fans
If he bailed him out its a felony and against the rules of baseball.
If he bet on other sports with an illegal bookie, which they all are in California, he broke the rules of baseball.
Either way, Ohtani is in deep poo. .
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
He used an illegal bookie (let’s say) only because he doesn’t live in one of the 40 states that allows legal sports betting. And again, the only victim here is Ohtani’s checking account. Okay so he broke MLB rules, but it’s up to the discretion of the Commissioner to levy any penalties. Ohtani is International Superstar Money-Maker Superhero. Commissioner will deem this “small potatoes, nothing to see here.” As he should.
CF
“He used an illegal bookie (let’s say) only because he doesn’t live in one of the 40 states that allows legal sports betting.”
Not a great legal argument. I could not commit a crime because it was a crime in my state? really? Could someone in Texas use that logic to get an abortion in Texas…California provides abortions? Right?
If he paid the bookie its a felony and he has no excuse. He will also plea.
Commissioner better handle this and not just call it small potatoes since the FBI is now investigating.
How will it look if the Dodgers and MLB say “nothing to see” and then the FBI uncovers an illegal sports betting business that has Ohtani as a client?
Nope, this has legs and I would remind you ESPN and the NFL made a HUGE deal about Tom Brady and deflating footballs. That got a special counsel, Fed investigation, Congressional hearings and a trial in Fed Court.
That was TOM FREAKIN BRADY, Mr. Goat. Ohtani is in major trouble, and I bet you he already lawyered up, because they think its HUGE.
This could derail the Dodgers entire season. And they dont have angry Tom Brady to bring them to the World Series.
BlueSkies_LA
Nobody said this was any kind of “legal argument.” In fact Mizuhara has admitted point blank and was quoted right here (so you couldn’t possible have missed it) as saying he knows what he did was illegal. The FBI is on this because the bookie has been under investigation for several years. Nothing suggests that Ohtani was a client. We don’t know who is in trouble here except Mizuhara and probably the bookie. If you know of any evidence of anyone cheating on the game, then out with it. Something you might want to try instead of making a series of obviously untrue statements.
websoulsurfer
MLB Rule 21 (3)
Ohtani will be suspended for a minimum of 1 year and possibly for life if its found he either participated in the betting or made the payments that his interpreter originally said he made to cover his debts.
Either way, Ohtani is suspended.
That doesn’t even take into account that making those payments is a felony.
Going to be extremely had to prove that Ohtani DIDN’T participate in making the payments at a minimum.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
As long as he didn’t bet on baseball, I don’t see how he will get seriously penalized for this. So what if he used a bookmaker to place his bets?—which probably only happened because he lives in a jurisdiction that hasn’t legalized sports gambling (yet.) Who was victimized here? The only thing victimized is his own checking account.
Pads Fans
As the rule says, the minimum penalty is one year. Manfred cannot give him less.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
That’s not the way I read the rule, but I will review it thnx.
CF
He committed a felony. Probably multiple felonies. And he paid a bookie.
BlueSkies_LA
Making claims with zero evidence to back them up. It’s a thing these days.
178iq
This is hilarious
carlos15
Sports gambling is illegal in CA, yet virtually everything else is legal. Maybe after they tax you there, there isn’t anything left to gamble so it’s a moot point
findingnimmo
Well said.
Seamaholic
What do you mean by “everything else”? What Fox News meme did I miss this week? Normally, the story is everything is ILLEGAL in Cali.
28rings
Marijuana
28rings
Shoplifting less than $900 worth of goods
websoulsurfer
Its illegal at any amount in California. Its not a FELONY until its over $900, Multiple arrests by an individual for the same crime or if part of a group that is caught stealing in an organized manner can still be prosecuted as a felony even if less than $900.
28rings
Pooping on the sidewalk
Easy as 1 2 3
Also legal for a 24 year old to be inappropriate with a 14 year old long as you identify as a certain type of way .
Seamaholic
That’s legal everywhere according to federal courts.
vertigo
The only thing illegal in California is common sense.
Seamaholic
Man the Faux News brigade is out today. The retirement home get its dial up going again? You realize all those anti-Cali (and anti-Chicago and anti-NYC) stories are completely made up and have purely political purposes, right?
Easy as 1 2 3
“Everything I don’t agree with even though they’re right is fake news”
Uh no.
CA made it a misdemeanor if you steal less than $950 worth of goods. As a result many cities especially inner cities won’t even pursue charges cause nothing actually gets done when someone does 6 months max gets out and just keeps doing it again and again. It’s gotten so bad a new law is on the books for voting for 2024 that say you’ll get jail time (3 years and upwards) on your 3rd offense. THIRD OFFENSE. THATS how bad it’s gotten regarding the shoplifting. Certain businesses are pulling out in high crime rate areas closing their doors cause of it.
Easy as 1 2 3
Idk about other cities but SDs own records show they spend 1 mill a year on cleaning up human feces on streets and other biohazard like needles and hygiene products
nbcsandiego.com/news/investigations/human-feces-ot…
MetsSchmets
Vertigo what’s the weather like in your bubble this time of year?
Stallion97
“Everything you see with your eyes and hear with your ears isn’t real. It’s all made up. Unless it supports my view points, then it’s real.”
CF
I know its like they all get the same exact talking points about the current subject and then race to the boards to be the 137th person to state the same exact thing.
What i tell my non-California living friends and family when they spout these BS Fox News points is 1) you are being manipulated because they think you are stupid, and 2) NOBODY IN CALIFORNIA CARES!!!!
Stay in whatever hole in the mid west or the south you live in, my fellow Californians are fine with hanging out with the beautiful people in 75 degree weather every day.
Yes, California is terrible, please dont come. Please dont come to DisneyLand, please dont come for the Rose bowl, please stay in Iowa. We are fine here, keep watching Fox and Friends…they always need another fool.
CF
I know you are the guy with ALL the answers but you think it might be bc its a misdemeanor and not a felony?
I know that requires knowledge of the criminal justice system, not what you were told to believe by Fox & Friends, but try and look up why that matters…
BTW, nobody is asking you to come to California, please stay in Arkansas. I hear its nice.
I am going to the beach after work and its 75 again.
You hate California bc you were told to hate California. SImple.
CF
Your knowledge of California is impressive.
sheerterror
Too bad Pete Rose didn’t have an interpreter.
Edp007
Only when playing home games in Montreal
Edp007
Who’s more likely to be making Million dollar bets ? Guy who make 300k or guy who makes $70 mill ( before endorsements ) , just asking for curiosity?
Portland Micro-Brewers
Everyone with a brain knows it was Sho. Athletes are notorious gambling addicts.
Yankee Clipper
I’m going with the guy making $300K. And, I also fully believe that he hacked into Ohtani’s personal account and transferred millions of Ohtani’s money to his own account and bookmaker.
Did you believe it? Yeah, neither did I.
OTOH, how much you want to bet that Ohtani is voted MVP again? Lol.
BrianStrowman9
lol
MLB doesn’t want its best national marketing chip off the field. He’ll slide out of these if he listens to his attorney.
CravenMoorehead
Bettor luck next time finding an interpreter, Shohei 🙂
oldgfan
Must be nice to have a fall guy on the payroll. Me thinks Ohtani not as innocent as portrayed. Something smells bad, and not just the normal Dodger stench.
CravenMoorehead
Bro changed his story mad sus
Buzzz Killington
There goes the golden boy reputation the Dodgers paid for.
giantsfan1976 2
How would the interpreter have access to Ohtani’s account in order to transfer the money? If he somehow transferred the money without Obtani’s consent then he’s also probably facing wire fraud as well. I think he’s taking the blame for Ohtani.
Seamaholic
He’s conveniently already out of the country.
178iq
Hahahahha his beard lol most will not get that hahahahha this should Pete rose Showtime. But hey, he’s good for baseball so I’m sure his little buddy will take all the balls and the showtime team wont get a scratch.
doorights
Pete Rose angry he never needed an interpreter…
Easy as 1 2 3
“ALL I HAD TO DO WAS HAVE SOMEONE ELSE DO IT FOR ME?!?!?”
Pete Rose, probably
monroe_says
Surely, we have not forgotten Pete’s roommate Thomas Gioiosa, who placed bets for Rose and also went to jail for tax evasion and cocaine dealing?
IsIt2025Already?
Will Shohei Rose-Tani get his contract voided like Bauer-san?
swinging wood
Leave Britney alone!
YankeesBleacherCreature
#FreeMikeTyson
zacharydmanprin
I heard MLB was going to suspend Ohtani but instead he is going to “retire” and play in the NBA for a year as some sort of self-imposed suspension.
swinging wood
I hope his father is okay.
User 4095290658
He’ll be back too win a title though 😉
BravesFan2024
3 if I’m not mistaken
Bucket Number Six
But MJ is not …
YankeesBleacherCreature
Taking his talents to LeBron.
Maddog1983
We call that the reverse Jordan
hoya33
YES I see what you did there..Great Comment.
politicsNbaseball
Would Ohtani get in trouble for wiring a bookie money? My guess would be yeah, and his boy is taking the fall since he paid off the 4.5 million. I would be surprised if Ohtani is a degenerate gambler but you never know. Definitely didn’t have that on my 2024 bingo card
Seamaholic
My sense has always been that Ohtani’s public image is 100% manufactured, very diligently so by his very large team, and obsessed over, but that he’s actually kinda dumb and not very virtuous.
politicsNbaseball
You could be right if so I do think the MLB will do everything they can to protect him. I honestly would like him more if it was true, but I’m a sports gambler
James Midway
I’m no lawyer but money going from your account to an illegal bookie is illegal i would think. I wouldn’t matter if you were paying “for a friend”. 4.5M to a criminal organization is bad. Looks like they hid it well from the Angels or they overlooked it like the dealer on staff.
HiredGun23
This too…shall be deferred.
CravenMoorehead
Deferred prison sentence
10centBeerNight
Something not kosher here. Not adding up
Nosferatu Zodd
This stinks of BS. Wonder how soon we gonna get the gambling scandal. Then again they got smart. The sport news journalist are involved too.
Ulmanoma
Why did ippei’s story all of a sudden change. Something doesn’t add up.
okinnitram
Ohtani is the new Pete Rose
B-rocker
One of you cynical rush to judgement clowns probably called in the bomb threat in Seoul
solaris602
One thing we can be sure of: this story isn’t gonna die any time soon. Watching this unfold should be fascinating.
Gmen777
This will almost certainly be swept under the rug. Only thing I can see is if the feds themselves sought charges against Ohtani but I think even they would rather just let the interpreter take the fall.
bestone
Interpreter is on a plane heading to Toronto
Bucket Number Six
Yep, Robert got him a seat on Dragon’s Den.
Seamaholic
He was already in S Korea.
cactusflair
helk yeah
Yankee Clipper
Gonna hear the South Park “Johnny Cochran” defense soon.
“And here’s Chewbacca…”
CravenMoorehead
He should have made deferred payments on his bets 🙂
Portland Micro-Brewers
Taking the deferred payment might make it easier for LA to not pay. The Dodgers will have an easier path not paying future payments vs getting back bonuses already paid
GSWfanklay
Thank goodness Giants dodge this bullet
kreckert
Oy.
Edp007
On the other hand… I heard a talk show a month ago , guys were joking around about various sports topics , ippy came up, how he was like Shohei’s shadow. Went everywhere
, someone said probably makes a few mill at least. Another looked it up. They were shocked only 300k. They joked , didn’t know he was paid by team not Shohei. Said he might be resentful , sho gettin all that dough. So maybe so … he stole out of resentment. Just throwing out there
Digdugler
I dont think there is any league in the world worse at “gathering facts” than the MLB, so nothing will come of this, just like the rest of the scandals.
Informed Sportsball Discussion
They’re fairly diligent at expending resources on such a thing when motivated to, as a certain former Dodger pitcher can attest.
I suspect they may not be as motivated this go ’round.
James Midway
Manfred has to be going nuts. It’s possible that his golden goose just laid a smelly egg.
AmericanRedneck
Well my my my …
ohyeadam
All you had to do was not do this in California
Seamaholic
It’s actually illegal by federal tax law too, unless the gift was declared as such and a gift tax paid.
getrealgone2
You bet against the Globetrotters!?
I THOUGHT THE GENERALS WERE DUE!
Edp007
While Ohtani serves his 324 game suspension , night as well sign the previously railroaded Bauer.
CravenMoorehead
YES BRUTHUR
BaseballisLife
Bauer admitted to breaking MLB Domestic Violence policy. He wasn’t railroaded.
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
If nothing happens to Ohtani then Pete Rose needs to be reinstated and placed in the HOF immediately. I am not buying this story.
CravenMoorehead
This story reeks more than Tim Lincecum’s bong water
SadHaloFan95
Haha that bong water comment got me good
nosake
Right. So, those of you believing Otani would risk his career, not to mention endure the shame of everyone in Japan, not the least of which are his immediate family, forfeit his contract, and all that for the chance to parlay a few bucks on betting? One, you really don’t understand Japanese society and two, you’re nuts.
getrealgone2
Wanna bet?
IsIt2025Already?
Try again if 1) you just culture shocked from Japan to US 2) you just became a global superstar 3) you’re adjusting to money unlike you’ve ever seen before and 4) you’re sort of dumb
Seamaholic
That’s not very convincing. You think Pete Rose had nothing to lose? Or that there are no gambling addicts in Japan?
Informed Sportsball Discussion
Unfortunately, the choice at hand is “stupid or liar”.
I don’t think the guy is stupid, so, this don’t look swell.
Yankee Clipper
Really, the same general argument applies to PED users. Why do they risk everything? We can speculate, but who knows…
Perhaps Ohtani was truly trying to help his interpreter out – the problem is: if your friend kills someone and you give him a ride to or from, you’re also guilty – regardless of intentionality, he aided his interpreter in criminal activity {allegedly}.
revolver
You don’t understand compulsive gambling and the grip it has.
nosake
Ah, but I do understand that.
James Midway
I wouldn’t say his is guilty or innocent based on “Japanese society”. That’s such a weird statement. Individuals act as they will. They may be influenced by the culture around them, but they are not mindless drones that all act and do the same things. If he is telling the truth and his interpreter was doing all of this, he was also in a position with a lot to lose and did it anyway.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Couldn’t we say, after all, that this is much ado about nothing??? Whether Shohei knowingly bailed out Ippei, or Ippei went beyond his purview and appropriated the funds unbeknownst to Shohei…either way Shohei was going to help his BFF out of his mess. No victim, no crime, right?
James Midway
Someone still participated in an illegal gambling ring to the tune of 4.5M. That’s a crime.
Astros Hot Takes
for posting that 3 times, you have to go listen to Moonlight On Vermont
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
That’s awesome, I totally am going to crank it up right now. Sorry about that, I was feeling over-exuberant for a sec.
angels fan for life
Boy he bet on baseballs he will be done in America
Troutahni
I’m still stuck at the $ 4.5 million part of the article. Jeez! He was rock star in Anaheim. Both of them were inseparable. He even pitched to Shohei in Colorado for the Hr hitting contest at the 2022 All-Star Game. How he was even able to accumulate that much money to be liable for $ 4.5 million in losses. There has to be more to this story.
Wadz
Yea he was covering for Otani.. seems pretty obvious
nosake
Endorsements
MPrck
Pete Rose can’t be in the Hall of Fame, but baseball games can now be wagered upon ? It all just stinks to high heaven, how many games are being thrown ?
Bucket Number Six
No wonder the Angels have been so bad all these years!
Troutahni
Pete has paid for his sins. Let the Hit King in. Baseball has sold a major portion of itself to DraftKings, FanDuel, MGM and now ESPN Bet. The gambling element of the game being used for profit by MLB is beyond the hypocracy that stands in the way of Pete Rose joining the HOF.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Trout
I might agree with you on Rose except for the allegations that he slept with an underage girl. Rose claimed in court filings that when he was married, 34, with two kids that he slept with the girl, but believed that she was 16. Because of the then-statute of limitations, Rose could not be charged with a crime. Not HOF material IMHO.
Maddog1983
The Hall of Fame is about what you did on the baseball field It’s really weird that people like you want to base it off moral objections. As a matter of fact I bet you’re morally in superior to a lot of people who think Pete Rose should be the whole thing I’m just saying
MLB Top 100 Commenter
You equate the statutory rape of an underage girl by a married father of two in his mid-30s to “moral objections”?
I agree that we think differently on this matter.
BaseballisLife
Well you just outed yourself.
The HOF gives instructions to voters and 3 of them are related to character and morals. They don’t agree with your claim.
Troutahni
Could it be that Ippei is taking the fall for Ohtani? It is very possible that it’s Shohei Ohtani who owes the $ 4.5 million,and whenever there is smoke, there usually is fire, meaning Ohtani might owe a lot more. This should open an Empire State Building Can of Worms or better yet a floodgate release of the Hoover and Glen Canyon Dams combined. Could Ohtani end up as a footnote in baseball lore like Shoeless Joe and the Chicago Eight, former players from the Louisville Grays, Hal Chase, Heinie Zimmerman, and sadly, Pete Rose?
Edp007
A week ago the girlfriend could’ve been forced to tell all she knows , now the wife can’t be forced to peep.
Just saying
drewm
^This
There’s a lot of damage control being done here.
Remember: All criminals lie.
Johnny utah
50/50 chance ohtani is the 1 who did the gambling
$4mil – all from shohei’s bank acct
gambling’s illegal in california so he asks his friend/interpreter to take the fall
Yankee Clipper
I’m taking the OVER.
Dustyslambchops23
Next on MLB network presented by Fan Duel, we discuss the breaking Ohtani story
User 4095290658
Like a worried parent who knows their child has a gambling problem, the Dodgers said – ‘Shohei, you can have the rest of it when you grow up and have learned how to look after your money.’
What’s even more crazy is that he was ready to fly to Toronto but the coin flip came up ‘tails’.
sangroazul
Wonderin if Ippei is just the (highly paid) fall guy for Ohtani’s “sins”??? Gotta protect the “brand” after all…
Edp007
Heard Shohei asked B Bonds , how do I handle this when the story breaks , … Bonds … got a good pal who’ll go to jail for ya ?”
Johnny utah
if its true ohtani was the gambler
mlb will do everything it can to hide the truth and keep him safe from legal repercussions
he is the face of baseball
mr. $700 million
they probly will pay off the interpreter to take the fall, go to jail, etc.
revolver
Exactly. Just like the NBA did with Jordans gambling. Sweep it under the rug. Next thing you know Ohtani will quit baseball to pursue his “lifelong dream” of playing on the pro golf tour.
Troutahni
Could it be that that this story was conjured up by Dodgers owner Mark Walter, CEO Stan Kasten and an All-Star team of Lawyers? This story smells very much like Sushi.
Informed Sportsball Discussion
If so, it’s a pretty lousy effort given the story has already had to change once.
Cleon Jones
Sushi throughout the world are duly offended by the comp.
Informed Sportsball Discussion
Yeah, pretty fishy analogy.
MetsSchmets
Yo Troutahni are you eating gas station sushi bro?
Angels & NL West
Would a bookie allow a customer that makes $300k-$500k per year rack up $4.5 million in debts?
How did Shohei’s financial advisor overlook multiple $500k transfers?
Why/how does Ippei have access to Shohei’s banking info?
mad1
Big time congrats ver up
dano62
So did odds on Dodgers winning the WS just take a hit?
CravenMoorehead
That’s how I’m interpreting it
Yankee Clipper
I’m betting that their odds go down substantially if Ohtani is out in administrative leave, pending the outcome of the investigation.
But, my gut says MLB will take a different route in this one….
Cleon Jones
MLB statement: “Ohtani,what a guy, drops 4 extra large for a friend. Like a good neighbor, Shohei is there.” Hence forward, National Shohei Day at all MLB ballparks.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Actually, the adversity might light a fire under them
I do not rule out Shohei blaming the interpreter but choosing to resign from MLB – and then the truth will only come out if federal prosecutors pursue it
dano62
Blue Jays obviously neglected to mention sports betting is legal in Ontario
Informed Sportsball Discussion
Someone should start a GoFundMe to gift Rob Manfred a giant rug to sweep this under.
Rsox
This story has more holes than Chris Taylor’s swing. With ever changing details and no explanation how a team employee got access to a player’s personal bank account, all while his financial team apparently had no idea? Maybe it was the girlfriend/fiancee/wife who magically appeared out of thin air…
Travis’ Wood
The Chris Taylor shot made me legit LOL
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Rsox
In Chris Taylor’s defense, I will edit your post to say:
“This story has a bigger hole than Jake Cronenwerth’s glove.”
There, fixed it for you.
Informed Sportsball Discussion
That’s Cronenworth with an “o” for “worth”.
But, funny.
The $80 million dollar “non-optimal extension given the rest of the infield” made up for it today with his bat at least.
TeddieBallgame
Ban him for life, Ohtani that is.
Informed Sportsball Discussion
Someone told Shohei Ohtani he would grow up to be just like Pete Rose.
The man took it serious.
cactusflair
like cris carter said: always have a fall guy!
@DaOldDerbyBastard
Comments Closed
Informed Sportsball Discussion
Close the book on ’em like Ohtani’s books.
MPrck
This is the biggest story of any baseball season ever, just coming after it started too ! Illegal gambling, light contract to alleged player involved, this is HUGE ! Corruption on this scale, and how will baseball cover it up as the season plays along ?
Troutahni
Maybe Shohei knew he has a partial UCL tear last season, so he gave Ippei some fun money to bet against the Angels, while he pitched hurt just to receive a lavish payday from the bookie. Some aspiring journalist out there should try to recover some of the receipts from the Fed and match the tickets to the box and line scores looking for unusual questionable activity. How can any of us restore our faith in the system knowing that this could be going on without any MLB investigations? It took a federal investigation to moonlight this potentially unscrupulous violation of Major League Baseball’s ultimate rule. Every clubhouse in MLB has a sign on the wall that states that any form of gambling is strictly forbidden
Dustyslambchops23
He’s down 4.5 million.
If he was betting against the Angels he’d be up, your speculation makes no sense
Jimbo_Jones
Not necessarily. I wouldn’t be surprised if some foreign brand endorsement checks are actually related to gambling.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I agree with what Dusty said
Jimbo_Jones
They don’t mention cash flowing the other way. It’s not like he would lose all his bets.
good vibes only
I really wish websites did not have comment sections.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
It is like a car wreck, you are conditioned to look
Informed Sportsball Discussion
A fan told Ohtani, “I bet on you to be league MVP”.
Ohtani replied, “So did I”.
Dustyslambchops23
… but he’s down 4.5 mil
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Ok, this one was just a joke
revolver
Day late and a dollar short once again MLBTR. Pretty lazy reporting. This thing is blowing up and this is all you got?
ButchieYost619
Yeah, these guys might be getting money from Manfred. But seriously.
Tim Dierkes
What were you looking for, wild speculation?
Brew88
Nah. We’ll leave the wild speculation to the comments section Tim.
HiredGun23
Rumors are a form of speculation. But I hear you, Tim…why create liability unnecessarily.
Brew’88
The form matters. Do you want MLBTR, or MLBWTR?
Old York
Gotta know your limits when it comes to gambling.
LordD99
I hold the line at $4.4MM.
timmygee
@LordD99 Damn! Still high…..I had to cut back to 4 million……
Rishi
“News strikes today that Shohei Ohtani’s interpreter has been fired for illegal sports betting…..now watch these ads from our sponsors at draft kings, Ketel One vodka, and Evan Williams Kentucky Bourbon Whiskey….remember to play responsibly.”
YankeesBleacherCreature
Meh… I’ll just continue playing my kid-friendly solitaire app where the ad from my other game says I’ll earn $1K by playing 5 minutes of it.
Cleon Jones
This smells like the SBD some jerk drops on the bus or in church, when nobody can move, and the cloud settles and sticks like a thick london fog, with no hope of fresh air for the next hour. That’s what it will be like for the next 6 months as this story develops and takes a big nasty dump on Mlb and everyone who pays attention to it.
okinnitram
speculating… ohtani was betting on the Angels to win.
Cleon Jones
Lmao
LordD99
Yes. Could explain why he had nothing but betting losses.
Dustyslambchops23
Beyond the red flags with this story, it’s downright hypocritical of how far in to bed the MLB has gotten with sports betting companies but want to enforce no betting.
What did they think was going to happen when they cram betting down everyone’s throat ?
dasit
mlb is free to make craptons of money off of a crippling addiction on one condition: allow pete rose into the hall of fame
MPrck
This modern day scandal, as we’ve all been sick of the black sox story for years, but this one HUGE ! Baseball with a potential scale of corruption as a season starts will engulf it all.
Rishi
I always wonder when people will learn there’s this thing called the stock market that it essentially the same thing as sports betting and your chances of success are much better, tho it lacks some of the excitement. Perhaps those that like gambling should try it, sorta like trying to stop chewing tobacco with a dusty baker toothpic.
Cleon Jones
Like shorting the housing market, just dont try it when fannie mae’s watching…..
LordD99
In an odd move, Ohtani has hired Pete Rose as his new spokesperson.
MetsSchmets
The pitcher doth protest too much
LetTheGoodTimesROFL
Reading through this sniffs a lot like politicians doing insider trading. In the end someone will be a fall guy like the whole Cardinals hacking into the Astros database. Swept under the rug
Echopark
First, I don’t believe for a second that Ohtani gambles.
My biggest concern is that Obtani’s lawyers and Ippei said Ohtani agreed to pay off all or some of Ippei’s debts. That might make him some kind of accessory but come on, the guy was just trying to bail out a friend. There’s no criminal intent. But that might be why the lawyer and Ippei walked things back when someone advised them of the legal risk to Ohtani.
Now, it might be equally true that Ippei DID also steal from Ohtani. Does anyone believe he a. Rued 4.5 million in gambling debts without putting significant money down – nitialy or intermittently?
VegasSDfan
It doesnt take intent to be convicted of a crime.
Ohtani is under investigation. Let’s see how his play starts to suffer.
BaseballisLife
Bookies are not stupid. They are not letting a guy get in debt that much when he doesn’t have the income. Ippei didn’t make much until this year when he got a raise to $300k from the Dodgers.
There is no way these bets that resulted in $4.5 million in losses in 3-4 years, were rung up by a guy getting paid less than $100k by the Angels.
Echopark
Here is my current guess.
Ohtani never gambled – on baseball or otherwise.
Ohtani did loan Ippei money by paying off some of his gambling debt. But the flip-flop statements on that is because someone realized – too late – Ohtani might have legal. But come on, you going to nail a guy for bailing out his friend?! File this under: no good deed goes unpunished.
But it is also true that Ippei stole money from Ohtani. I don’t believe for one second that a guy can build up 4.5 million in debt on credit alone. No, during the process a lot of money was used – and that money was probabaly stolen from Ohtani by Ippei during the “I can bet my way out of a hole” period.
Edp007
I wish that your scenario becomes the most believable as this saga unfolds. At the moment ..
Echopark
The legal issue would probably be whether Ohtani is an accessory after the fact for paying illegal gambling debts. I don’t think it likely, but that’s probably what the fear is
BaseballisLife
The legal issue would be whether Ohtani himself was making the bets which is likely. Bookies don’t let flunkies like Ippei get $4.5 million upside down. Not even $500k upside down.
BaseballisLife
Bookies are not stupid. They are not letting a guy get in debt that much when he doesn’t have the income. Ippei didn’t make much until this year when he got a raise to $300k from the Dodgers.
There is no way these bets that resulted in $4.5 million in losses in 3-4 years, were rung up by a guy getting paid less than $100k by the Angels.
theruns
Which brings up the issue of a player who spends his whole life in a major league baseball clubhouse and bench owing a bookie four million dollars lol. What could go wrong!
Also, if Ohtani was just a nice guy who decided he was going to pay this huge debt off he still committed wire fraud by sending an illegal bookmaker 4 million via his own personal computer. Pretty sure that’s a federal crime, no?
BaseballisLife
Indeed.
MPrck
Baseball, the crookedest game in town. Little league’s everywhere burning their Shohei merchandise the new face of baseball corruption. How long have they been covering this up ? Black mark ? The biggest black mark in baseballs history. Drone on Ken Burns, and that other goof ball Bob Costas.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
“I bet you 10 bucks I can get you to bet by the end of the day”
“No. I don’t bet”
Can’t repeat the next line on here”
“I’ll give you 3 to 1 odds”
“No”
“5 to 1”
No
“10 to 1 odcd?”
“Okay”
“I’m gonna get you. I don’t know how how but I’m gonna get you”
“Na uh”
-Lloyd Christmas and Harry Dunne
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
How is my comment a fail?
troutfishing
Even ESPN has a sports betting platform now. Draft Kings sponsors everything. A dude stood by his buddy during a huge life mistake and everyone is losing their collective minds. I swear our planet is one step closer to idiocracy every day. If he lived 4 hours away in Vegas no one would give a damn.
YankeesBleacherCreature
The Pete Rose comps here are pretty funny and to think Ohtani is stupid enough to risk it all to bet on baseball is even funnier.
Seamaholic
If they hadn’t suddenly done a 180 and denied that was the case, you’d have a point.
JoeBrady
If this is as innocent as you imagine, he should have been more forthright about it. He should’ve told his agent ans lawyer to speak to Manfred about ii.
Like I said to someone else, you remind me the Tatis fans claiming he was just trying to cure ringworm.
troutfishing
If you actually think Ohtani was betting on college football then you fit right into my idocracy comment.
I agree he should have asked a financial expert on how to help Ippei, but Ohtani probably had no idea it was illegal gambling because its advertised everywhere and he isnt from the USA. You guys are legit crazy to think a dude who is about to get married, playing professional baseball, has no track record of these types of vices, and is about to sign a contract over 500 million… would be like, hey between games, why dont I randomly call shady bookies and bet on some international soccer and college football.
wreckage
Gotta think his walk up song is gonna be the gambler by Kenny rogers now.
Yankee Clipper
Gotta know when to hold ‘em…know when to fold ‘em.
unpaidobserver
If you believe this was the interpreter, I’ve got a ravine to sell you…
homeunderdog
ohtani is DIRTY!
ArianaGrandSlam
We all know that Ohtani actually did vouch for his friend Ippei. What Ippei or Ohtani did not know at the initial confession was that his bet was illegal. That’s why Ippei turned 180 degree and said Ohtani has nothing to do with it I’m the one who stole his money from his bank account.
Enrico Pallazzo
Excelent point. Thefts are almost never committed in any other states. Since 1776 there have only been 7 known thefts in all states other than California. Whereas CA averages 10 billion thefts per second. Thanks for being a real patriot truth speaker degrom/langford
Maddog1983
They certainly never said that drama queen
Seamaholic
Crime is up FAR more in small conservative towns in the South than it is in California. Including theft.
Stallion97
Source?
28rings
Because California decriminalized everything… if it’s not against the law it’s not a crime.
Easy as 1 2 3
Dude, trust me bro.
As 28 rings said
Make it not a crime then nobody is committing crimes.
MetsSchmets
Degromlangford needs to get off Tucker Carlsons balls
nosake
Making liberal use of the mute feature. BuhBye to all you freeloaders. You’ve turned this site into just another unregulated SNS site.
BaseballisLife
Something doesn’t smell right about this. A friend and interpretor has access to Ohtani’s bank account to the extent that he can transfer $4.5 million over 3 years without the bank flagging it or Ohtani even knowing about it? Give me a break.
MLB needs to take a much deeper look into this. Obviously law enforcement will. We definitely haven’t heard the last of this in regards to Ohtani’s involvement.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
I thought Shohei knowingly paid off Ippei’s gambling debt. But then the story changed, I guess. The first version of the story made sense. But the whitewashed version, that it was a theft, does not make sense.
Go Go Power Rangers
The story was changed, in my opinion, because if Ohtani knowingly transferred money to the debters no matter the intention, he’d now be responsible to some extent and could face consequences.
To me it seems the original story was more than likely the truer version but now they are changing it to cover his bases, pun intended.
3 finger split
content.mlb.com/documents/8/2/2/296982822/Major_Le…
This pretty much says it all
websoulsurfer
(3) Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee who places bets with illegal book makers,
or agents for illegal book makers, shall be subject to such penalty as the Commissioner deems
appropriate in light of the facts and circumstances of the conduct. Any player, umpire, or Club or League
official or employee who operates or works for an illegal bookmaking business shall be subject to a
minimum of a one-year suspension by the Commissioner. For purposes of this provision, an illegal
bookmaker is an individual who accepts, places or handles wagers on sporting events from members of
the public as part of a gaming operation that is unlawful in the jurisdiction in which the bets are
accepted.
Ippei had to try take the fall or Ohtani is out of baseball permanently.
Do you think this is over with a federal investigation going on about the gambling ring?
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
If Shohei wasn’t betting on baseball, who cares?? Ippei said he bet on everything but baseball.
BaseballisLife
Its illegal. It doesn’t matter what he bet on.
mahalkita
The original story would have Ohtani receiving some federal felonies.
Nosferatu Zodd
That the problem. No one really believes Ippei was doing the gambling.
websoulsurfer
MLB Rule 21 (3)
(3) Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee who places bets with illegal book makers, or agents for illegal book makers, shall be subject to such penalty as the Commissioner deems
appropriate in light of the facts and circumstances of the conduct. Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee who operates or works for an illegal bookmaking business shall be subject to a
minimum of a one-year suspension by the Commissioner. For purposes of this provision, an illegal bookmaker is an individual who accepts, places or handles wagers on sporting events from members of the public as part of a gaming operation that is unlawful in the jurisdiction in which the bets are accepted.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
The key part here is “shall be subject to such penalty as the Commissioner deems appropriate in light of the facts and circumstances of the conduct.” The Commissioner is going to deem this all a small potatoes nothing-burger because the alleged violation wouldn’t have been a violation in 40 other states and because it’s up to their discretion which hinges on Shohei’s International Superstar status, i.e. he brings in the bucks. Also, no victim, no crime.
Pads Fans
The key words are “shall be subject to a minimum of a one-year suspension by the Commissioner”.
Ohtani cannot be suspended for less than that time period. He could be suspended for as long as the commissioner deems appropriate, but in no case less than 1 year.
Because its considered such a serious offense, its not up to the commissioner’s discretion.
1 year is definitely is not a “nothing-burger”.
The FBI is investigating this, so that would indicate its not a “nothing burger”. Its part of an investigation into a federal crime.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
But I read it as the automatic suspension is only if the player “operates or works for an illegal bookmaking business” then they “shall be subject to a
minimum of a one-year suspension.” From what we know, Ippei/Ohtani neither operated or worked for the illegal bookie…just waged bets with the entity.
Mi Casas es tu Casas
Solicit a prostitute or buy drugs or use fireworks in states where it’s not legal. No victim, still a crime.
Nosferatu Zodd
I won’t say it’s the same as Pete Rose until it’s proven he bet on games he participated in.
Dock_Elvis
Knowledge of gambling and not reporting it promptly has Buck Weaver banned since 1919. There’s precedent. Something has to give.
Nosferatu Zodd
Some of the problems back then was the vast difference in pay now and then. 1919 a relative small amount like $500 could fix games. Could you imagine major leaguers being bribed with say 10k these days?
James Midway
I don’t know why MLB is mad. They own part of Draft Kings and MLB network literally has shows dedicated to betting. MLB is neck deep in the gambling industry.
MR. Q
“Do as I say not as I do!”
Dock_Elvis
I don’t think we might want to know if baseball uses the 3rd party to boost their own revenue.
T8Rcheese1
This seems like a play for some gangster thugs to own part of Ohtani and his money. Happens to all the giant “Icons” in all entertainment and sports.
Yankeesforever
Ohtani seeking asylum in Korea..
baseballteam
$4 million says there’s a hole in Cronenworth’s glove.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
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Gambling? Why can’t people ruin their lives with sex and drugs like the old days?
“Gambling is a disease. But. It’s the only disease where you can win lots of money.” – Norm McDonald
MR. Q
“What do you think of the report that stated your interpreter stole money from you Ohtani?”
“Ohtani’s interpreter never stole anything from him” – Ohtani, through interpreter
Non Roster Invitee
Say it ain’t so Sho!
Go Go Power Rangers
I genuinely doubt someone (Ohtani) who left millions on the table and came to the US to prove he was the best in baseball, who took deferred installments in his contract to win a Championship, in baseball, cares to bet much less think of any sport other than baseball. In a lot of cases nowadays the truth is manipulated but it seems here the original story is more than likely true.
unpaidobserver
Yes it would be the first time that someone who had a lot to lose did the one thing that would cause them to lose it all.
Go Go Power Rangers
Point noted.
It seems the change in the story was to absolve Ohtani of any involvement with the gambling ring and from the available information, it seems his only involvement was paying off his interpreters debt (allegedly) but even just that could cause some legal issues. We’ll all find out the truth together I suppose…
1984wasntamanual
The “truth”
JoeBrady
You can Google the names of top-level athletes that have gambling problems. Being a good athlete doesn’t make you any more immune than being a bad athlete.
Dock_Elvis
The minimal first story is much more than Buck Weaver committed. He’s been banned since 1920
❤️ MuteButton
The truth may never come out. As it stands it is unlikely that the interpreter “stole” the money. I actually don’t have a lot of issues if Shohei Ohtani actually did pay his gambling debts. Yes it looks bad but it’s better than letting your friend get whacked.
Seamaholic
It’s actually conspiracy, a pretty serious felony in Cali, as elsewhere. Or accessory after the fact (like driving the getaway car). Which depends on when it happened.
❤️ MuteButton
If Shohei did indeed pay his interpreter/friend’s gambling debts he did so for good reason whether it was a crime or not. If he did, then he will pay the penalty for his decision. At least his friend is alive though.
3 finger split
If his friend had any honor he would follow the Bushido code.
❤️ MuteButton
Do you mean Seppuku?!?!
3 finger split
Yup…that would be the end result and I do mean end.
❤️ MuteButton
:-0 harsh!
Dock_Elvis
You go to the Dodgers not pay it off.
Nosferatu Zodd
That was only for samurai.
User 3014224641
Petehei Rohtani makes bets, but Manfraud won’t do anything because MLB has invested too much in him.
Non Roster Invitee
Watch Ohtani’s contract get voided.
Willzsco
I’m not understanding the logic with some people on here saying that they hate the Dodgers because of this. For one, the Dodgers had no knowledge that this was happening. Second, other organizations have done much worse. The Astros were caught cheating not so long ago. But, an interpreter’s gambling problem is where you draw the line?
Mikey2400
Deferred Payments Dodgers are literally abusing MLB loopholes. They’re the laughing stock of baseball
❤️ MuteButton
Fans of losing teams hate winners. If a losing team cheats, nobody cares. If a losing team has a crooked interpreter, nobody cares. Capeesh?
Outfieldflyrule??
STOP with the Pete Rose in the HOF crap! He bet on baseball while he was a manager of a MLB team for crying out loud! He knew it was wrong but I guess didn’t think rules applied to him. My hope is this Ohtani thing is aggressively investigated by MLB to find out what really happened but not confident that will happen.
Mikey2400
MLB players can’t bet on baseball either. Ohtani is trash and will be banned for life
❤️ MuteButton
Otani is not trash and neither is Pete Rose. Humans make mistakes, and they should be held accountable. We don’t know what Shohei has or hasn’t done yet so just chill baby.
Non Roster Invitee
Woke up people!
❤️ MuteButton
Not even close. I’m a conservative. I’m also a Christian
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
So after playing in MLB for 7 years and living in an English speaking country most of that time why does Ohtani still need an interpreter???
Candlestoked
Uh, because he speaks Japanese and is learning English? What do I win?
Poolhalljunkies
7 years is more than enough time to learn english if you care try even a little ask ANY 7 year old.
Candlestoked
@Pool hall Read up on the subject and find out how wrong you are!
Poolhalljunkies
Honestly i dont need to ..ive known several adults who spoke zero english and picked up enough in months to at least get by without a full time interpretor…because they tried..maybe its harder on average but i simply dont accept someone like ohtani not being able to learn in that time if he tried
Pads Fans
Missionaries learn enough of a foreign language to be immersed in the society in just a few weeks.
wreckage
@Pads fans, won’t allow me to reply to you, guessing you’ve blocked me for some reason.
Try teaching yourself 2nd language as an adult. Promise you it takes longer than a few weeks.
But after 7 years the man should be at least conversational to understand what’s happening in English.
websoulsurfer
I am not sure what type of missionaries he is talking about so I will speak from my knowledge. My brother-in-law and his wife were called on a mission by their church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. They were given 12 weeks of training of which 8 weeks was language training in Swahili and then sent to Kenya for 3 years to teach the gospel.
I picked up a Spanish language program from Rosetta Stone when I was assigned to scouting the Southwest in my late 40s. In 3 weeks of using the program 30 minutes a day I could carry on a basic conversation. In 3 years I was fairly fluent.
Adults can learn new languages. Look at the ads for Babbel that promise you will be conversational in a new language in 3 weeks.
After 7 years of immersion in a culture that speaks English, there is no excuse for not being able to carry on a conversation in the language.
Mikey2400
Ohtani should be banned from baseball immediately. Nobody believes that his translator has access to his bank accounts. This is an actual joke.
Candlestoked
This is the USA. He gets due process.
Degaz
Not according to the Colorado “Supreme” court…
User 3180623956
I guess state’s rights are only important when it’s convenient for your arguments
1984wasntamanual
MLB doesn’t have to follow that (I still can’t believe the players agreed to give MLB carte blanche on this). Just look at the Bauer situation.
Poolhalljunkies
What if he just paid the debt for a friend?
John Bird
It would mean he had knowledge of illegal activity and covered it up. Aiding and abetting (no pun) for starters, conspiracy,etc.
JackStrawb
@John Bird Depending on how he went about it, it would remain to be proven that Ohtani had actionable knowledge of illegality.
Blatant example: J runs to Ohtani, says “I got myself in real trouble, can you wire $500,000 to this guy?”
Ohtani: “Dang. Okay. Where do I send it?”
J: “It’s called ABC Enterprises.”
Ohtani: “Done. Don’t do it again, whatever it was!”
If that’s about the extent of his involvement, a jury could easily find the genial Ohtani innocent of criminal intent.
—–Obviously there will be more to it, but that’s the idea.
John Bird
@JackStrawb.Sounds pretty naive. If my friend made that kind of request I would want to know what the money is for.
JackStrawb
@John Bird Agreed. It’s extremely naive. I’m not recommending this but it doesn’t even have to be true, it just has to be credible to a jury.
The burden of proof would remain with the state during trial. Can they show mens rea, a guilty mind, in Ohtani’s case? So far (though it’s early) there doesn’t seem to be anything Ohtani did that by definition, by statute, makes him criminally guilty.
John Bird
@JackStraub. The real question could be is either of them willing to commit perjury to the FBI.
Pads Fans
NINE times?
User 2161944466
You’re not friends with someone since before 2017 and not know they have a gamboling problem. (Especially a translator who is continually shadowing you). I call BS
Pads Fans
One that is with you pretty much 24/7.
Rays in the Bay
I guess this would explain why he ‘just wanted to win’ with the Dodgers. Sounds like he wanted to win in other sports too.
clubberlang
It’s not hard to imagine a situation where the line is Angels vs Oakland and a prop bet of O/U 2 hits for Ohtani. Go bet $2 mil on the under and Ohtani strikes out intentionally. Not saying this happened, but you would only need to do this 2-3 times a year to make ridiculous money. Muddy water
1984wasntamanual
It definitely isn’t what happened…this was $4.5m in losses, not winnings.
waldfee
What a pile of hypocritical BS.
Gladly taking money from betting companies with both hands across all sports while preaching sanctimoniously from the pulpit of virtue about the evils of gambling.
I know, I know…. gamble, drink, snort and handle firearms responsibly. But keep giving us your goddam money, peon!
Dock_Elvis
And MOVING a team to Vegas under lousy circumstances. This is WHY mlb integrity is important. If baseball owners were wise they’d can Manfred and sick the dogs
drewm
I guess he really is the Michael Jordan of baseball
Citizen1
Jordan was betting after he left the game. Ohtani probably bet on the Washington generals as a player.
The North
Who BETTS OHTANI WILL be a FREEMAN or OUTMAN?
runningwithnailclippers
I am worried about you.
Halo11Fan
I have complete confidence is our department of justice and judicial system to get to the truth….. oh wait. Never-mind.
Dock_Elvis
The FBI is squeezing that orange county bookie as we speak probably.
Pete Rose is innocent Fry Ohtani
I hope Ohtani gets suspended Pete Rose style.
Poolhalljunkies
I hope you are wrong and he was just helping a friend..anything else would be terrible for baseball and anyone “hoping” hes guilty of anything should think twice about what is really important
atomicfront
Why do you wish that on his friend? If he is guilty of gambling he should get permanent suspension. Maybe he can join Bauer in Japan or Mexico..
Poolhalljunkies
atomic …Sure.. “IF”..the point i was trying make was why would any “hope” another person wss guilty of anything? That is just horrible to hope bad things for people…but i think you knew that and are just trolling
Halo11Fan
Players should be able to bet legally on sports they don’t play. It’s an archaic law. However, illegal betting is illegal betting. This was illegal.
Doral Silverthorn
they can
Halo11Fan
Halo. Are you sure? I was not aware of that. I am old enough to remember Mantle and Mays being barred from baseball because they worked for a casino.
Halo11Fan
You’re right Halo, I just looked it up. This whole thing just doesn’t make sense.
1984wasntamanual
It’s not legal in Ca.
Halo11Fan
1984. True, he went through an illegal sports book.
Doral Silverthorn
this wasn’t specified in that post as responded to
raef715
because he left the angels? i think having to play for the Angels would be a harsher punishment.
TellItGoodbye
Ohtanigate and now Yamamoto begins his MLB career with a 45.00 ERA, pulled after one inning and 43 pitches. How’s that Billion Bucks gamble workin’ out for ya, Dodger$?!
tim 14
Something smells
GSWfanklay
Shohie can’t be this dumb he is involved
Degaz
Agreed…also his Marriage looked fake as hell too. Crafted to improve his image.
drewm
True but for a different reason, your spouse can’t be compelled to testify
JoeBrady
I had one of my Japanese friends tell me his boss won $1M in LV in his last trip, meaning that he probably had $1M on the table. When he saw my expression, he switched it to 1M yen, but I knew that wouldn’t even cover the airfare.
Some of those dudes love to gamble.
Captain K-Midd
There is no way Manfred is going to ban his golden goose. All of Japan is now watching MLB games regularly because of him. If he didn’t punish the Asterisks, he isn’t going to punish Ohtani. This isn’t like Pete Rose, MLB is worth way way more than it was in the 80s. And on top of that Ohtani is in his prime, Rose wasn’t even playing anymore. It is more likely he pulls a Michael Jordan and it’s a silent one-year ban where he goes to play baseball in Japan to be closer to his “wife’s family”.
JoeBrady
It’s also not the 1970s when things were easily swept under the rug, and when sports journalists would ignore certain stories for the good of the game. Some of today’s writers will write a 500-word diatribe just to get some publicity.
atomicfront
Baseball was about 4 times a popular in the 80’s.
Poolhalljunkies
Who cares its 2024 and this guy is arguably one of the most recognizable sports figures on the planet.
websoulsurfer
Nope.
baseball-reference.com/leagues/majors/misc.shtml
Not one single season in the 1980’s had attendance as high as 2023. Overall live game viewership between TV and streaming was an all-time high in 2023. There were 63 million subscribers to MLB.tv worldwide in 2023.
Want to try again?
❤️ MuteButton
The Astros weren’t punished? Come on man.
TellItGoodbye
Panic at Chavez Ravine! – the 2024 Dodger$
TellItGoodbye
Coming soon to a theater near you
Degaz
Yamamoto got rocked too! That’s $1Billion dollar investment that just tanked in 1 day!
TellItGoodbye
And co-starring Max Muncy as the 3rd baseman who can’t play 3rd base! Two errors and one that he should’ve gotten to. Heyward misplays a ball, and Outman couldn’t make the out, man. This is going to be a fun season!
Os1995
Ohtani went from being the Japanese Babe Ruth to the Japanese Pete Rose
User 3180623956
LMAO at all the Ohtani haters on here accusing him of things that haven’t been proven. You all are just spurned lovers who we be on here defending him to the hilt if he had chosen your team. The hypocrisy is thick in here…
Degaz
Best case scenario Ohtani is a bonehead and guilty of gross negligence with his finances. Worst Case…..well
Informed Sportsball Discussion
You’re new to sports fandom I see.
Even if Ohtani played for my Padres, I would have to concede this story does not line up with observed reality (that every single facet of Ohtani’s life is managed to the nth degree), and it looks a whole lot like Ohtani’s interpreter is taking a fall for behavior Ohtani engaged in.
I don’t know for sure. Manfred will likely go out of his way to ensure no one ever knows for sure. But, it’s bad all around.
User 3180623956
So it’s better to go with assumptions and conspiracy theories than facts, gotcha. smh
Informed Sportsball Discussion
@grnmtnyeti I just said I don’t know for sure what’s happened. It’s just what it looks like.
I don’t know what else you want from me, but I encourage you to learn how to read.
User 3180623956
“Manfred will likely go out of his way to ensure no one ever knows for sure.“ = an assumption about a possible conspiracy theory
You should pay attention to how you phrase things.
JoeBrady
You are out of line with your entire POV. I’m sure most people are willing to let the investigation takes its course.
But any assumption that there is nothing to investigate is pretty far afield.
Fever Pitch Guy
Joe – Without question there’s a lot of contradictions, especially going from “I paid off his debts to help him out” to “He stole millions from me”.
I am very doubtful anything will come of it with regard to LE or MLB, but I am curious if he loses any endorsement deals because of it.
User 3180623956
@Joe Please show me where I assumed there is nothing to investigate and I’ll gladly accept it.
All I stated is basically that people are jumping to conclusions and making up conspiracy theories.
dasit
here’s a fact: before abruptly changing their story, ohtani’s reps revealed that ohtani had committed a federal crime
3 finger split
This is a FEDERAL investigation so the MLB won’t be able to just sweep it away…If it is confirmed that any of the bets made were on Baseball and Otanhi had ANY knowledge of it…he is so screwed.
JoeBrady
Rubbish. You sound like one of those Padres fans defending Tatis for innocent use of a ringworm ointment. He could be completely innocent, but the anomalies are staggering.
1-It’s been going on since 2021. Okay, let me know how many illegal bookies let someone run up a $4.5M tab over three years.
2-We still don’t know for certain who authorized the wires. Only the absolute worst security would not require dual authorization and other security measures. All my accounts require text verifications, and I get notified for all transactions exceeding $xxx.
3-When were the wires made? If these were made during the baseball season, an explanation will be needed as to what they were paying off. If you make the wire in Jan/Feb, I’ll buy it was for the SB, b-ball, etc. If you make the wire in July, then you’ll have to convince me that you wanted a $100k bet on a soccer game.
I am hoping that this is just a clumsy attempt to cover up some gambling debts, but it would be ridiculous to take Ohtani’s word for this.
User 3180623956
@Joe may the gods help the poor person that has you on their jury.
The Tatis situation is completely irrelevant to this one.
atomicfront
You mean you are a Dodger fan who is supporting another criminal?
just_thinkin
WOOPS!
bruinlife33
Does that fit the profile of most Dodger fans?
AL B DAMNED
SAY IT AINT SO SHO…
AL B DAMNED
I predicted a 4.50 ERA for Yamamoto…
I just had the decimal point wrong…
It’s 45.00 ERA….
Good Luck Dodger Millionaires…
Or..
The Hollywood Squares…
Blue Baron
And if the season didn’t have another 160 games to play, you’d be correct.
Blue Baron
Ohtani leads the league in WHIP:
Wages
His
Interpreter
Placed
Blue Baron
*Wagers
greatwhiteangus
brilliant. fistbump
Yanks4life22
Blue Baron for the GD win!!!!
wvredsfan
honestly I just wanna know how the Padres can afford to fly their radio guys to Korea for the games but the Dodgers couldn’t afford to fly their radio guys over there… the Dodgers made their radio guys stay home and work from LA…
THEY LIVE!!!
MLB needs to be investigated itself but there is simply nobody in government that is clean enough with any power whatsoever to clean up the mess. MLB got in bed with organized crime before most of us were born. Corruption is the norm in our society. That’s my two cents worth
Blue Baron
@THEY LIVE!!! When you have too much time on your hands, a good unfounded accusation or three will make it fly by.
tymeslayer
Well, in more ways than one, Ohtani is no longer an Angel. I am curious why MLB.com shows no mention of this story. Not surprised, but curious.
troutfishing
It’s what the story should be is my point. Ohtani’s lawyers had to do a 180 to protect their client, but the dude isnt going to press charges against Ippei.
stewartnbuck
Sounds like the interpreter is the fall guy.
User 4223176798
The bigger you get the more that people want to take you down. That’s the American way. Easy to get to the top. Harder to stay there. Look at the greats: Tiger Woods, Magic Johnson, Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds, Tom Brady. America loves tearing down stars. Wait for the facts – whoops, it’s America. That is why people arrested make news – people acquitted don’t.
raef715
how about O.J.?
atomicfront
If the glove doesn’t fit you must acquit. What about Tiger Woods. He certainly has plenty of scandal.
Yankee Clipper
Well, TBH most of the people you cited were their own worst enemies and made some really bad choices. Also, I think the American population understands that oftentimes star power and/or money creates a large disparity in how they are treated versus an average American.
THEY LIVE!!!
This sounds more like blackmail than embezzlement of funds. The truth may be far worse than what they’re feeding us.
Jack Dawkins
I doubt that it’s blackmail. It’s pretty simple I think. Shohei’s old pal was allowed to run up 7 figure losses by a bookie and now Rocky Balboa was going to be sent for collection. Of course Shohei doesn’t want to see his friend harmed so he makes payments for him. And here we are.
atomicfront
I think more likely Ohtani bet and is trying to throw his old pal under the bus.
Jack Dawkins
Yeah atomic front, I thought about that. The betting supposedly started in 2021. If Shohei’s and Bowyer’s records coincide for that long, he’s got a problem. So far, info about only two payments in the Fall of 2023 has been released. We’ll see where it goes from there.
Blue Baron
@THEY LIVE!!! When you have too much time on your hands, a good unfounded accusation or three will make it fly by.
No need to worry about pesky details like proof.
User 4204968895
Trust Me Bro is my favorite source
User 3180623956
atomicfront is a pretty reliable source as well…
Jack Dawkins
At this point, I wonder how you say Miranda Rights in Japanese. They both ought to know.
THEY LIVE!!!
@Blue Baron
Projecting much?? What exactly was my accusation?
Blue Baron
“This sounds more like blackmail than embezzlement of funds.”
Unfounded much?
FYI: Unfounded means without proof.
THEY LIVE!!!
@ Blue Barren
The $4.5 million theft smells rotten & unbelievable on the face value. I merely offered a more believable theory. No specific charges needed to call BS on this one.
JoeBrady
b) why everyone assumes Ohtani did it, in spite of no evidence to link him to it.
=============================
The fact that the money came from Ohtani’s account is evidence.that SOMEONE did something wrong. Perhaps Ohtani had nothing to do with it, but ignoring the possibility is pretty farfetched.
Citizen1
Dodgers sure know how to pick professional idiots:
Ohtani – gambling
Miguel Olivio – bites teammate ear in fight
Bauer – legal problems
Yasiel puig – small head, big ego
1984wasntamanual
Bauer was set up…way to blame the victim.
Roger Beshen's Patented FootballSlider
set up or not the fact he gets off on beating women is out there.
Alex O.
Who wants to bet on Ohtani’s suspension? Over under 1 year
Smelly_Cobb
If there is any discipline warranted, it will likely be deferred by the MLB
Silas
Serves MLB right. friggin hypocrites. IN BED with gambling up to their NADS.
dasit
sports gambling increased by 27.5%(!!!) between 2022 and 2023. ESPN now has betting lines on their scoreboard page including spring training games. anyone who has suffered or witnessed a gambling addiction understands that MLB is becoming the sackler family
Smelly_Cobb
The last 24 hours have been very interesting in Doyer land
3 finger split
This story has changed so many times already that it will lead to…
“The cover up is always worse than the crime”
If any of these bets were made on baseball and it will come out because it’s a game of dominoes…first one falls then the second and then somebody will cut a deal and then the coverup comes into play on top of the actual crime.
MLB rule 21…section D-1,2,3 is pretty clear on this
content.mlb.com/documents/8/2/2/296982822/Major_Le…
Read it and come to your own conclusions….Kennesaw Mountain Landis was very clear on this in the wake of the Black Sox Scandal of 1919.
Othani is screwed and if he isn’t then Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson are wanting an answer.
Johnny Devil
Shohei ohtani has a gambling addiction. Violated mlb gambling policies. Forced his interpreter to take the ride and we all know why. I think I speak for most common sense sports fans and Americans in general.
User 3180623956
Convicting without any proof. Typical…
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Is there any evidence that he bet on baseball?
If not, why are the people who want Pete Rose in the HOF demanding this guy be banned?
Oh….right.
Johnny Devil
Help this waif .
Informed Sportsball Discussion
@66TheNumberOfTheBest
A changing story is evidence of a cover-up.
It simply does not track that Shohei had no idea what his interpreter was doing with $4.5 million of his money. Something is very bad about this.
Put the card back in the deck.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
So betting on baseball and covering it up is bad, then?
RandorBierd
Ohtani should announce that he is trans which will then make any further persecution of him a hate crime.
baseballteam
Cast Ohtani as lead in the remake of Rocky Horror Picture Show.
longines64
Did Phil Mickelson’s name come up?
Viveleempireevil
The whole story stinks. I think Ohtani is up to his armpits in gambling. Whether or not he gambled on NCAA and the rest with an illegal bookmaker is one thing. If he bet on MLB with a bookie? Then he gets the death penalty for MLB. The Tax Dodgers deserve every bit of the karma they will reap.
Informed Sportsball Discussion
Shohei Ohtani asked Dave Roberts if the 2024 Dodgers are going to win the World Series.
“Don’t bet it”, Dave Roberts replied.
….
“No really, Shohei. Don’t bet on it.”
Downtheline802
I feel like he would have said “you bet your ass” instead.
Informed Sportsball Discussion
I’d say you ruined my joke, but my typo already did that.
It made me laugh at least.
Viveleempireevil
…and please stop equating Ohtani as being on a par with Ruth. He is not a patch on Ruth. “The Greatest Player in MLB History”? Puh-f’ing-leese. Another flash in the pan.
Johnny utah
Rough start for LAD
Gave up 15 runs to weak SD tm
Ohtani is a degenerate gambler
Yamamoto didnt last more than 1 inning
Billions spent in offseason
This is why 29 other tms refused to spend
Citizen1
The dodgers make the Mets look good, for once. Probably won’t last.
Johnny utah
mets finally stopped buying up expensive disappointing underwhelming useless FAs. they let the dodgers do that now. but yea they’ll find a way to become the joke of the league again pretty soon
MetsSchmets
When they’re not funny, yes
mioke
Dodgers should just cut Othani and cut their losses.
Citizen1
Dodgers gamble on not paying the big contract front loaded is now paying off.
Roger Beshen's Patented FootballSlider
I love all the armchair attorneys and judges here who are already chanting burn him at the stake while no solid facts are even out yet. Gotta Love ‘Merica!
User 3180623956
Exactly. The slew of adolescent takes on here reflects the current state of our culture, it’s pathetic.
mrmackey
I believe this as much as I believe Wayne Gretzky’s wife used to bet on sports.
Dock_Elvis
Can we get Buck Weaver reinstated now?
MootScorgoon
The amount of knee-jerk reactions here is amazing. No investigation results have been made public yet everyone is convinced that Ohtani is a degenerate gambler based on….what exactly?
The entire thing is fishy, certainly, but so many are jumping to conclusions, I feel like I am at a trampoline park.
User 3180623956
@moot it’s probably because they’re all still pissed that Ohtani didn’t choose their team.
Johnny utah
Pete Rose is still banned for life. But MLB & manfred doesn’t give a crap about investigating whether or not Ohtani is a degenerate gambler
Absolutely disgusting and shameful
Yanks4life22
Pete Rose is a pedophile. Let that sink in and then let’s see if you care about his HOF status.
Dock_Elvis
And very likely trafficked cocaine through Golds Gym in Cincinnati to pay off his own gambling debts.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
So, are you mad that Rose is banned?
If not, then why do you care about Ohtani?
If so, then why do you care about Ohtani?
runningwithnailclippers
Do you guys really think MLB will take any legal action against Ohtani if they knew he was part of gambling on baseball? No. They will just look the other way because Ohtani is too valuable.
runningwithnailclippers
Also, according to our web overlord, Google, he is the most searched pitcher in MLB history.
Sorry for being an Angels fan
I’m sorry but I just don’t care about Outani paying for his friend’s gambling debts. As hard as I try to care, I just can’t. Sorry
Dock_Elvis
Watch Arte Moreno come out of this looking like a genius. Every dog has their day.
We’re heading toward the Savannah Bananas being able to market their game integrity. Lol
filihok
I have no idea what happened.
If Ohtani violated any MLB rule he should be punished in accordance with that rule
-A Dodger Fan
Dock_Elvis
Well the precedent for knowing about gambling and not promptly telling the club is a lifetime ban. So…I Ohtani knew? Well….it says he gets different treatment than a player dead 60 years still serving a 104 year ban. Baseball hasn’t been kind to gambling implications..nor should it be.
With PEDs atleast the implication is attempting to win. MLB must have game integrity. To even question it is trouble.
Viveleempireevil
Excellent points here, Dock. My problem with the whole MLB “Death Penalty” for betting on MLB while a player is that we now live in a world of FanDuel and Caesars and Bet360. The lines are now more blurry than ever. However, if it can be proven that Ohtani made bets on MLB games (in addition to other sports?) , then he gets shown the door. The other complicating factor is the whole FBI probe of the involved bookie. Because the FBI don’t play. And they are masters at getting people to roll over on other people. I want to believe that Ohtani is way too smart to fall into this hole but…pride goeth before a fall.
Dock_Elvis
I agree with all you said. Someone will sing. They already have Puig. I’m not ready to say thus doesn’t expand league wide like the Pittsburgh Drug Trials. MLB punted integrity a long time ago. It get to drink its own medicine. If this comes out bad…fans need to revolt. Money is all they care about.
JackStrawb
“What I can’t figure out is why the lawyers didn’t tell everyone to just shut up,” Rose told CBS Sports.
John Bird
Is anyone buying that Ohtani’s money people didn’t see 1 mil. go missing? If Ohtani had prior knowledge and covered for his buddy he could still face problems whether he placed the bets or not.
holycow16
Bring Trevor Bauer back!
Dock_Elvis
Trevor going to stop beating women? Cause he got set up in San Diego by someone that knew he could be. Guy has a string of issues from what I’ve gathered from a few people in the game.
BennyGiant
Lifetime ban for the cheater!
Poolhalljunkies
After reading more on this Im going to choose to believe ohtani did nothing wrong here and is in fact the victim until it is proven otherwise
User 3180623956
That’s how any normal human would react, poolhall.
Smelly_Cobb
Maybe if the story didn’t flip the next day. That is the main issue causing the suspicion.
User 3180623956
Smelly C, there’s a difference between suspicion and immediately calling for a lifetime ban or for him to be arrested.
Smelly_Cobb
agreed, anyone saying he’s guilty is a troll. But there are reasons to believe this won’t turn out well for everybody involved.
User 3180623956
Yup, the trolls are ugly, small minded creatures. I agree it doesn’t look good but am waiting for the actual facts to come out.
Dock_Elvis
Those 500,000 transactions would have triggered the Federal laundering system. Ohtani would have been notified personally about them. This doesn’t look good.
JackStrawb
As of today is there any reason to assume anything at all about this?
Anything at all beyond…
A asserted w…
B asserted x…
The state has said it’s doing y…
MLB has said it’s doing z…
?
User 3180623956
No, not really, JackStrawb, but there are a lot of small people here who can only deal with their envy by making assumptions and basically cheering for someone to get banned from the game or worse. What a bunch of losers.
wvsteve
So the intertrupter had access to his banking ? And he has no one elee monitoring his every affair? Something is not adding up.
denistaylor
Even if Ohtani himself isn’t gambling, aren’t there MLB rules about consorting with gamblers?
Dock_Elvis
It’s a violation of the CBA to wire money to an illegal bookie.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Pretty obvious what’s going on here, the bind that Ohtani, the Dodgers and MLB are in here… amazing timing for this to come out right now…
I like gambling too, but why would you gamble in a way that could ruin your extremely lucrative career? I know, I know, addiction… but man… hope it was worth it for Ohtani…
Kinda funny the rate of MLB guys who sign massive record breaking deals and then do stuff that makes them persona non grata in the game almost as soon as the ink dries on that record breaking contract of their’s.
Dock_Elvis
Ohtani won’t be paid if he’s suspended. Right now the Feds have his account wiring money to an illegal book maker in violation of the CBA. If he ends up with a ban. It’ll void his deal.
Chicks dig bunting
Ohtani is guilty the guy did not steal from him. He gambled and got caught suspend him just like they did Trevor Bauer he’s guilty to proven innocent
Dock_Elvis
Best most people don’t know more about Bauer. He got set up in SD because of his reputation which was no secret.
Chicks dig bunting
Oh and if ohtani is not suspended the rose gets into the Hof
Chicks dig bunting
Life time band ohtani if not rose in Hof ohtani is guilty until proven innocent just like traffic
Astros Hot Takes
I think it quite possible that Shohei, Ippei, or both, are in bed with a gambler, on many a night.
rynoresumes
What does any of this have to do with playing baseball? is this the next episode of the Kardashians?
GO1962
What a sad way to begin a new season.
GO1962
The Dodgers seem to have a problem of having at least one player a year being involved in scandal.
baseballteam
Baseball is entertainment. Baseball scandals are also entertainment.
Candlestoked
If he were not rich, he would be worrying about deportation right about now.
Fred McGriff HR
‘Ohtani is definitely guilty’, according to the Trevor Bauer accusers.
BaseballisLife
This article is one of many that call out all the inconsistencies in Ohtani’s story.
nymag.com/intelligencer/article/the-shohei-ohtani-…
There is a federal investigation going on, so MLB will not be able to sweep this under the rug.
By making a public statement that Ohtani was aware of the gambling and was paying Mazahura’s gambling debts, then allowing Mazahura to do a 90 minute interview, and only after being informed of the illegality of Ohtani’s actions even if he was not actually doing the gambling changing their story, Ohtani’s handlers have made a very bad situation worse.
Once they said it was theft but refused to press charges they made it even worse for Ohtani.
When they get back to the US both Ohtani and Mazahura will have to talk to the FBI in regards to the gambling investigation.
The local DA will also want to talk to both about the alleged theft and can press charges without Ohtani filing charges. We are also not talking about a short jail sentence like the one Bonds trainer for. Stealing $4.5 million would net a very long jail sentence.
Then there would be the federal wire fraud charges. Again those can be brought against Mazahura even if Ohtani doesn’t file charges due theft. Take a look at what a $4.5 million wire fraud conviction means in terms of jail time.
There are even more things to consider but I don’t want to write a 5000 word article on it
This is just beginning and it doesn’t appear that it will end well for Ohtani because once he understands that he could spend a decade or more in jail, its extremely doubtful Mazahura will be so willing to fall on the sword for Ohtani.
Dock_Elvis
Bingo
Jack Dawkins
So far, it’s about tax fraud and only the IRS is involved as the lead investigative agency. I am not saying that it couldn’t escalate beyond that but one thing at a time. Right now, it appears that Shohei has to say that his trusted friend of 11 years did identity theft and transferred millions of dollars over a period of months. Even if Shohei had nothing to do with placing bets with the illegal bookie, he broke a MLB regulation about doing business with unlicensed gambling organizations. Every player has to sign a form every spring agreeing to not use bookies. Unfortunately for Shohei, just paying off someone else’s bookie debt is a MLB violation that could result in a one year suspension. No good deed goes unpunished.
Dock_Elvis
I once did 8 solid weeks of research on the Black Sox Scandal, and have probably seen a great many things on it the casual person has not.
If there’s ANY kind of knowledge here on Ohtanis part of the gambling operation. And he doesn’t receive a lifetime ban. It’ll be absolutely RIDICULOUS that Buck Weaver remains banned after 120 years.
During my research, I lost respect for Shoeless Joe Jackson as to his involvement and toward Comiskey for his attempts to hide the scandal. Bill Veeck actually found the missing grand jury testimony buried in Harry Grabiners office. Comiskey was likely guilty of obstruction of justice.
Buck Weaver was banned because one day on the train he was passing and came across a meeting between some players and a series gambler. His supposed guilt was not telling anyone. Well, it seemed apparent that everyone was talking about a fix including his manager Kid Gleason.
After the series in 1919 Buck Weaver TWICE sat in Comiskeys outer office attempting to speak to Charles Comiskey. Atleast once he sat there 6 hours. Comiskey avoided him and refused to speak with him. Later in 1920 the scandal broke.
Buck Weaver is a very tragic case and should be reinstated.
BaseballisLife
The FBI arrested Bowyer, the illegal bookmaker, in October 2023. Its more than just the IRS involved right now.
Jack Dawkins
It’s my understanding from news accounts that IRS conducted the raid on Bowyer’s home. IRS has its own investigative and enforcement division. The same news reports state that other federal and local police agencies are not involved….yet.
BaseballisLife
And yet its the FBI that arrested Bowyer. In fact, they are the only ones that can.
Jack Dawkins
Bowyer’s home was raided by IRS. Records are seized but the news never mentioned an arrest. The way it should work is the US Attorney office of Central California will study the seized records and present its findings to a grand jury proceeding. If the grand jury decides that a crime has been committed, it will issue an indictment. If that happens, Bowyer will be ordered to report to the US Marshalls for booking. However, the US Attorney should be much more interested in Bowyer rolling over on possible legal casinos taking layoff bets from unlicensed bookies. This is the real goal of this mess. The US Attorney is not interested in Ippei or any other bettors as being defendants. They want cooperation from bettors to pressure Bowyer to roll over on his bookie network. The only MLB crime was using a bookie in the first place….so far.
BaseballisLife
Its about WIRE fraud. Its a federal crime and a serious one that has penalties up to 20 years.
JoeBrady
extremely doubtful Mazahura will be so willing to fall on the sword for Ohtani.
===========================
And there always the possibility that falling on the sword won’t work, There are plenty of poor people willing to take the rap for rich people (for the right financial incentive) but it isn’t always as easy as saying “I did it”.
And there are a lot of amateurs that don’t have the chops for this. The guys doing the questioning have probably done this hundreds of times. What were the dates of the wires? What is his password? Which banks did you use? Which device?
BaseballisLife
Do you really want to know why this is such a huge deal? Its not about whether or not Ohtani was gambling illegally. That may be a big thing in baseball and could mean as much as a 1 year suspension, but legally it is a misdemeanor.
To know why this is so serious for Ohtani, call your bank manager and ask about the Banking Secrecy Act (BSA) and what has to be done for you to make a wire transfer over $10k. What are the federal banking rules and procedures? What do you have to do? What does the bank have to do? And who does the bank have to report that wire transfer to?
Also ask them what the procedures on wire transfers over $10k are for people that are not US citizens. Also ask about procedures for those that do not speak English well.
When you get the answers to those questions you will know for certain that Mizuhura could not have made those transfers without Ohtani’s direct participation.
I am almost certain that Mizuhura was telling the truth in his interview with CNN about these being his gambling debts being paid by Ohtani and that was going to be the end of it until Ohtani’s lawyers realized that falsifying information on a wire transfer over $10k is wire fraud, a serious federal crime with penalties up to 20 years in federal prison and fines up to $250k.
The statute its covered by is the Banking Secrecy Act which was passed to prevent money laundering and illegal gambling. Sound familiar?
Its one of the charges Bowyer was arrested on. He is the bookie that the FBI investigated and arrested in October, and to whom the payments were sent from Ohtani’s account.
Whether Ohtani was gambling or just paying off the debt of a friend, its still wire fraud. Ignorance of the law is not a defense and minimum sentencing guidelines call for a 66 month jail sentence for each count. This is no joke and won’t be swept under the rug because its not just breaking a baseball rule against illegal gambling or betting on baseball. Its a felony. A federal crime.
This is going to get very serious for Ohtani very quickly. I can guarantee the FBI is going to talk to him and they have their own interpretors. If he lies to them, that will make things worse.
I don’t see this ending well for him or Mizuhura.
ayeah
And to come out and say, there was no betting on baseball is ridiculous. How does someone lose that much money on bets unless they are betting on a sure bet and it turns out it wasn’t a sure bet and keeps losing.
Aka, I love my chances of Ohtani bringing the Angels to a World Series championship. I’m betting on it!… for 6 years. And for 6 straight years it didn’t happen. It adds up to millions of dollars in lost bets.
Pay up! The interpreter and Ohtani were betting on baseball. If they weren’t and losing that much on other sports bets, then their dumber then…
baseballteam
“their” dumber?
ayeah
Correction, “they’re” dumber. I just woke up when I posted that above post, give me a break man.
rynoresumes
gambling has no limits man. you can go and get millions at a casino on one hand or one game.
ayeah
What is almost as earth shattering about this story is there are an equal amount of writers mentioned in this story about being in connection with the story that are on a baseball team’s starting lineup…Gustavo Arellano, Adam Elmahrek, Nathan Fenno and Paul Pringle of the Los Angeles Times, ESPN’s Tisha Thompson, Andy McCullough, Fabian Ardaya, Britt Ghiroli and Sam Blum of the Athletic.
What are the odds on that?
Jack Dawkins
Both the Times and ESPN were tipped off months ago about this. It only makes sense that a team of reporters would be assigned to track down every lead and get corroboration from multiple sources. This story is too big to have an Arson Judge or Toronto charter jet moment.
denistaylor
His logo has been updated to include Tony Soprano rounding second base and a police car rounding first.
Rightout
Its apparent Ohtani has a gambling problem,The Law will be involved gambling is illegal in California.. wire transfers cross state lines to start with..Ohtani will be suspended and face large fines and maybe if he is smart ? on the first plane out of this country..yet MLB makes tons of money of this guy…and The Dodgers are wondering how do they get out from under his contract… Lawyers are lining up on all sides right now.. This is just the start of the story..I bet there is large amounts of money more than the 4.5 million that we know about out there in more gambling losses…Ohtani the Dodgers and MLB will have a large price to pay..but keep putting the Fanduel commercials on tv MLB…what a greedy bunch of people, I doubt Ohtani will be playing Baseball for the Dodgers in about a month
ayeah
That’s exactly what I find so hypocritical of MLB. Gambling is a criminal offense in baseball and should not been done by any player or MLB personnel. But it’s ok for MLB to make millions on advertising gambling during their games all over the place for their fans.
Hypocrites!!
Poolhalljunkies
I think part of the issue is illegal gambling is a feeder business for larger organized crime situations potentially involving drug tracking, human trafficking prostitution and other rackets….also ask yourself this would tony soprano take upwards of 4.5 mil in bets from an interpretor?
BlueSkies_LA
The short answer is yes. It’s also the long answer. Then they call in all their markers and take everything you’ve got.
JoeBrady
ayeah18 hours ago
That’s exactly what I find so hypocritical of MLB. Gambling is a criminal offense in baseball
=========================
No, it is not. Betting on baseball is the death sentence. You can bet on anything else. I trust you understand the difference.
wvsteve
Cover up coming PR nightmare for MLB
Poolhalljunkies
So…if Ohtani had no knowledge and now does 4.5 million over time would noticed by his accountant..why havnt we heard of that firm being fired by ohtani for not noticing this?
baseballteam
The money was to release the hostages and secure the contraband.
Free Ippei
Looks like mlbtr might be part of the problem by not posting any other info on this very important topic today. Money money money money!
BlueSkies_LA
Unless you believe in the conspiracy, you’re part of it.
Free Ippei
Check again dude. It’s ok you’re sad bias and don’t wanna believe it lol
BlueSkies_LA
It’s sad that you are making up crap and trying to promote it here. A true bottom feeder.
BlueSkies_LA
Yes, making up crap and obviously trying to make money on it too. Low.
Free Ippei
I’m trying to make money off my comment? Bro slow down breathe it’s just a sport, relax. I didn’t make up anything I simply said they had been quiet all day about this story, which is true and curious so my comment was fair. Also chu crazy holmes
acmeants
If Ohtani’s mother manages his bank account, how did his interpreter steal money from it without her knowing? This whole story is fishy, particularly since the story was told differently to begin with.
A. Judge
Ya think??
ayeah
This is all a ploy for MLB and the betting apps to find more gamblers to sell their gambling services to.
A. Judge
My friend Ohtani will pay the $4.5 million but warned me not to ever do it again……
ayeah
And then the real laugher….”I learned my lesson the hard way. I will never do sports betting ever again.” *ROTFLMAO* Yeah, right!
Pike
The Angels being sponsored by an Indian casino now makes way more sense…
BaseballisLife
Do you really want to know why this is such a huge deal? Its not about whether or not Ohtani was gambling illegally. That may be a big thing in baseball and could mean as much as a 1 year suspension, but legally it is a misdemeanor.
To know why this is so serious for Ohtani, call your bank manager and ask about the Banking Secrecy Act (BSA) and what has to be done for you to make a wire transfer over $10k. What are the federal banking rules and procedures? What do you have to do? What does the bank have to do? And who does the bank have to report that wire transfer to?
Also ask them what the procedures on wire transfers over $10k are for people that are not US citizens. Also ask about procedures for those that do not speak English well.
When you get the answers to those questions you will know for certain that Mizuhura could not have made those transfers without Ohtani’s direct participation.
I am almost certain that Mizuhura was telling the truth in his interview with CNN about these being his gambling debts being paid by Ohtani and that was going to be the end of it until Ohtani’s lawyers realized that falsifying information on a wire transfer over $10k is wire fraud, a serious federal crime with penalties up to 20 years in federal prison and fines up to $250k.
The statute its covered by is the Banking Secrecy Act which was passed to prevent money laundering and illegal gambling. Sound familiar?
Its one of the charges Bowyer was arrested on. He is the bookie that the FBI investigated and arrested in October, and to whom the payments were sent from Ohtani’s account.
Whether Ohtani was gambling or just paying off the debt of a friend, its still wire fraud. Ignorance of the law is not a defense and minimum sentencing guidelines call for a 66 month jail sentence for each count. This is no joke and won’t be swept under the rug because its not just breaking a baseball rule against illegal gambling or betting on baseball. Its a felony. A federal crime.
This is going to get very serious for Ohtani very quickly. I can guarantee the FBI is going to talk to him and they have their own interpretors. If he lies to them, that will make things worse.
I don’t see this ending well for him or Mizuhura.
nosake
One gets the impression that we’re asking the wrong questions of the wrong people. Follow the money.
Mojo37
Rarely have so many known so little about so much.
ayeah
To all the baseball fans who are willing to believe in Ohtani in being truthful on his Ippei stole my money for “Ippei’s” gambling problem that Ohtani was completely unaware of and Ohtani NEVER bet or made any bet on baseball story to this point.
I bring you this latest development in the… I’m an honest clean MLB baseball player who brings great marketing to MLB.
barstoolsports.com/blog/3509383/shohei-ohtani-lied…