Now that Joey Votto is officially a member of the Blue Jays, he spoke with multiple reporters (including the Cincinnati Enquirer’s Gordon Wittenmyer, Sportsnet’s Ben Nicholson-Smith, and The Athletic’s Kaitlyn McGrath and C. Trent Rosencrans) to discuss his trip through free agency, and his eventual landing spot with his hometown team.
After a long offseason of waiting, the first baseman’s contract seemed to come together pretty quickly, as Votto said he called Jays GM Ross Atkins last week to discuss the eventual minor league deal. Though Votto felt he might’ve been able to land a guaranteed contract elsewhere, the idea of a minors deal with the Jays in particular proved tempting as a challenge.
“I need the time to prepare and resharpen my game. A goal of mine is to be fully prepared the second I return to major league competition. The major league level is about execution,” Votto told McGrath and Rosencrans in a text message.
To this end, Votto is fully open to starting the season in Triple-A if he needs more time to ramp up. In fact, he told Nicholson-Smith and company that he “signed the deal assuming that that was going to be the case. I’m trying to prove I’m still a capable player and the last couple of seasons were not real. And I have confidence that that will be the case.”
The six-time All-Star is entering his age-40 season, so there are some obvious questions about whether or not Votto can still be productive as he looks towards what would be his 18th Major League season. It already seemed like Votto was starting to decline when he posted (by his past standards) subpar numbers in both 2019 and 2020, but he then rebounded with another big campaign in the 2021 season. However, his performance dipped after over the last two seasons, seemingly due in part to a longstanding shoulder issue that became too painful for Votto to ignore. He underwent rotator cuff surgery in August 2022, and hit only .204/.317/.394 over 618 total plate appearances over the last two seasons.
Perhaps the most important aspect is that Votto is feeling healthy as he enters spring camp, and that he is viewing his new assignment with the Blue Jays as a completely fresh start. “I get to once again move towards, for the second time in my professional career, (trying to) make it to the major leagues. And it excites me,” Votto said. “It excites me to be in a hotel room in Florida, to take a shuttle or an Uber to the ballpark and be a minor-league player with an unknown number just trying my very best to make a team. It invigorates me. It’s what I feel I’ve been about, and it brings me great joy….I just I want to work and I want to compete and I want to fit in. I want to get along with guys, I want to be liked and I want to represent myself, my family and my country well. And this is the perfect opportunity.”
While Votto has embraced being a minor league signing, he did think such an offer was going to eventually come from the Reds. He told both McGrath/Rosencrans and Wittenmyer that his initial aim was to spend his entire career in Cincinnati, and even after the Reds declined their $20MM club option on his services for 2024, he figured he would eventually be offered a minors contract or a big league deal with a small guarantee by his longtime organization.
Instead, it seemed like the Reds were ready to move on to their next generation of young talent, as president of baseball operations Nick Krall even outright said in late January that “we don’t plan to bring [Votto] back as of now.” Votto doesn’t seem to have any hard feelings, noting that “the Reds team is STACKED and there didn’t appear to be playing time for me so we had to pivot.”
As it turned out, Votto ended up being “grateful for the free agent experience,” as he told Wittenmyer. “The vast majority of it was growth and learning about myself and things I need to change.” Simply being on the open market was new for Votto, who never been a free agent due to his two prior extensions (a three-year, $38MM deal and his big ten-year, $225MM contract) with Cincinnati.
“There was a part of me that was scared, because it becomes uncharted waters for me,” Votto told Wittenmyer. “It’s intimidating because I’d never as an adult been by myself. I was always tied to an organization and specifically [the Reds]. But quickly, I was like, ’No, this is good. You need this as a man, as an individual. You need this to grow. And what is the next step you need to take Are you done?’ I answered that quickly: No. So what’s the answer? Let’s get to work.”
swagsuperawesomeepiccoolman123
dude is an absolute legend for this. what he said was very inspiring. Wish him for the best in toronto!
Yanks2
Who?
Contracts
Joey Votto. MLB player. Obviously a guy more famous than a default avatar commenter on MLBTR like you, Yanks2
its_happening
It was a joke. To reiterate, it was a joke.
Dustyslambchops23
Jokes are usually funny
its_happening
It was hilarious Dusty. Loosen up.
disadvantage
I guess he was the first baseman on the Reds when Ken Griffey Jr. played there or something.
123redsox
Yes, Griffey Jr and Votto shared a locker room for a year +
Waldo29
This is exactly the mentality you want from a veteran player when they sign a minor league deal. Props to Votto for recognizing and embracing the challenge that’s ahead of him!
Cincyfan85
I love the Reds, but I hate them for this. It sucks. He should have been brought back here.
Rsox
Even Votto recognized that there wasn’t much of an opportunity for him there.
Props to him for not igniting flames about leaving and staying professional about the whole situation
Big Red Machine
Eh, they signed Candelario, essentially closing the door on a Votto return possibility. There was an opportunity to bring Votto back, they chose not to. That’s the source of frustration with the fan base.
JoeBrady
That’s the source of frustration with the fan base.
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He’ll be 41 this year. He has a 4.7 bWAR over the past 5 years. When does the obligation come to an end? 42? 44?
pingston
Well, when DH was added to NL it gave a spot to players such as Votto who have a keen eye and a strong bat, even through two seasons shortened by injury.
I support and follow the Blue Jays and am very happy they did what the Reds should have done — give a minor league offer to one of the best players of the past 20 years. And he has responded exactly as one would hope, saying he will try to earn his way on to the roster and expects to start the season in Buffalo.
A great opportunity to again earn a MLB roster spot and help win some games. It’s what the Reds owed him even if they pulled the $20M option.
JoeBrady
It’s what the Reds owed him
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As a Yaz fanatic, I’d have been deeply saddened if the RS had demoted him to AAA in his retirement year.
leftyr32
If it doesn’t pan out it’s a lot easier in a lot of ways for Toronto, or any other team besides the Reds to release him than Cincinnati. No franchise wants to have to release a franchise icon. The risk of the PR night mare of that outweigh the potential reward he will bounce back after two down years at his age. It’s impossible to know how much of the lack of production the last years was the shoulder and how much was age related decline. As a lifelong Reds fan I wish him all the best in his hometown and hope he is AL Comeback Player of the Year. I just don’t like the odds of it happening.
BaseballGuy1
No. Time for both to move on in life. It is about where the team is going and what the player can do in the 2024 season. Glad Votto has an opportunity elsewhere.
SonnySteele
At age 38 in 2008, Jim Edmonds managed to have three more good seasons for the Cubs, Brewers and Reds. It was inspiring to watch.
Rsox
Edmonds started out that season awful for the Padres and was better upon joining the Cubs, sat out the following season and came back decent for the Brewers before being traded to the Reds for the stretch run in which he went 6-29 with 3 Home Runs, 7 strikeouts and 3 walks and was left off the Reds postseason roster.
Larry Elliott
I am s die hard Blue Jays fan. I wish the Reds would have brought him back also!
RonDarlingShouldntBeInTheHallOfFame
Joe’s solid. Played with him years ago, and had a long talk about swing path. He can still rake.Dude busts his ass for the game he loves.
User 2161944466
Class act.
dasit
love the guy. can’t think of another no-brainer first ballot hall of famer (except maybe beltre) who flew so far under the radar for casual fans. he’ll be an incredible resource for his minor league teammates. hope he makes it up and destroys everyone but the yankees
earmbrister
Joey V is the best. Love the professionalism and the drive. Really interesting guy. Hope he destroys everyone and in particular the Yankees and Cardinals
retire21
He was really, really good. OBP machine but I don’t think 1st ballot HOF. But who knows?
dasit
2010-2017: 5000 plate appearances with an average OPS of 163. try and find another player (non-bonds and trout division) in the last 40 years with a better run
Eighty Raw
Are you serious? That’s not even close to the best run even if we narrowed the search to 1B in the NL Central this century.
dasit
forgot about pujols!
Eighty Raw
So Paul Goldschmidt is also a first ballot HOFer I guess.
dasit
goldschmidt has only had 2 single seasons with an OPS higher than votto’s 8 season run
and yes, goldschmidt is first ballot
briar-patch thatcher
Atta boy, Joey. All it took was a corny social media post and you got your minor league deal with a team that needed a headline going into the season.
You don’t decide when you’re done. Father Time does. You don’t think Brady still wants to be playing? Some people just don’t know when let go, because they’ve never had to.
NYCityRiddler
Joey is just another clog in the jays 2024 crash & burn season. Ahahaha!
TheTrotsky
Riddler is the best.
Larry Elliott
I always liked Joey and it’s hard to agree with a Yankee fan but you are right. This signing was a smoke screen to take pressure off of Atkins for the miserable offseason he has had. Signing Martinez or Snell would have been the right move but this idiot hasn’t made the right move in a long time. Atkins has to go. I would bet that he is done 30 games in when the Jays are 10-20. The bright spot is we will get a good draft position next season with a new and hopefully smarter GM.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I don’t think he will be very good anymore, but you have to like his attitude. Good luck Mr. Votto.
YankeesBleacherCreature
When you’re 40 overcoming career-ending injury, coming back “good” is enough.
Reynaldo's
If only every player could learn from Votto and adopt his humble mindset of taking on the challenge of having to always make a team. Instead we have prima donnas demanding for extensions in the middle of a contract (Harper) or bailing on a team because they can’t stand the thought of being in the minors again (Manoah).
Canuckleball
For what it’s worth, Manoah was 25 at the time of his struggles, and in MLB terms he was still a kid. That may well have been the first time in his career where he experienced real performance hardship. While his behaviour was disappointing, he’s hardly the first young man to make a mistake. His actions over the winter including improving his diet and taking on a new off-season workout suggest he may have learned from that experience and that’s all you can really ask from anyone.
BaseballGuy1
Sorry, 25 closer to middle-age in today’s MLB world than a kid. Especially as a pitcher with MLB experience.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Some take more time to mature and learn from their experiences. Harper, Machado, and others made their mistakes at 25 y.o. as well.
mrkinsm
Average age of a rookie debut is still 25.
Larry Elliott
Signing Votto was just another Atkins blunder. Nice guy but does nothing to help this team. Atkins 1st round picks starting from 2016 there is only Pearson and Manoah still with the team and neither one will start in the majors. Blame the scouts but who hires them. That’s 7 years of no productivity in the draft.
gvnbuist
How is this at all a blunder? It’s a risk-free minor league contract, and to add to that, one that Votto fully accepts and looks forward to – no animosity about possibly not making the opening day roster. It’s now up to Votto to force himself onto the team, and he’s well aware of that.
Larry Elliott
The blunder is the money and roster spot should have been used to sign a right handed power back.
Larry Elliott
Bat!
mrkinsm
He’s not making anything yet, and hasn’t taken up a roster spot yet.
CubsAreMidButTheresAlwaysHope
I’ve been a Cubs fan since I was a little kid and for the last 20 years I’ve absolutely HATED seeing Joey Votto come to the plate against them. Not because he’s a bad guy, but because he’s been so damn good during his career. Every interview I’ve seen him give, every fan interaction at either GAB or Wrigley, the dude has been a consummate pro, funny, and a pretty decent human. I’m glad he gets a chance to continue his (guaranteed 100%) Hall Of Fame career, but even happier that he’s finally out of the NL Central.
pingston
Very pleased Joe has been offered and has signed the minor league contract. He doesn’t need the money, that is clear. He just wants to play meaningful baseball and believes he can. Top-end pitchers and batters can play later than middling ones. Their knowledge of the strike zone, bat planes and so many intangibles gives them value to the team and all they play with.
On a practical level, now the Blue Jays have even more positional flexibility, presuming Votto makes the team and even if he’s on-call from Buffalo in 6 weeks once they have mud and blood on their record.
From a baseball POV could anyone be more professional? He was there for the Reds to make an offer, and anyone else, and he can help anybody even just as a bench bat, but when nothing was forthcoming he picked up the phone and called the GM of the team he grew up cheering. And much to his credit, GM Atkins said yes.
A great baseball story that is inspriring to fans, and also, I bet, to those he may play with…
Votto, statistically, is right there with many greats in hits with RISP, game-winners, and home runs. I always sort of followed him with the Reds, but now will watch for him every day, despite being almost old enough to be his grandfather.
BTW for those who wonder where Etobicoke, Ontario is located, it’s the western edge of Toronto, so only 15 minutes from the ballpark via the Gardiner Expressway/403; you travel through Etobicoke when you go from Toronto Airport to downtown.
cguy
Joey in his present situation has a rough row to hoe. I admire his outlook and wish him the best. I think his chances of doing a September farewell tour with the Reds have imnproved slightly.
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ActionDan
Let’s be honest he won’t spend much time if at all in the minors. He’s one of the better hitters of the generation. There’s always room for guys like him. Plus his hometown team? Sold out every game!
baseballteam
During 2014-23 Votto was paid an average $22.5 million per year. Would the Reds have been better off with three players at $7.5 million each (that much was a lot during that time)? I’d say yes.
octavian8
I understand why Cincy made the decision they did. If they had no chance for the playoffs I’m certain they would have brought Votto back. But they are in contention for the first time in years. It wouldn’t have been fair to him or the rest of the team. I have always admired JV thru his career and hope he catches what he is currently chasing. He certainly has nothing to prove in my eyes.