At this time two years ago, Tyler O’Neill was viewed as a future cornerstone of the Cardinals outfield. O’Neill had shown flashes of his top-100 prospect potential over his first three MLB seasons, but it seemingly all came together for the Canadian in his age-26 season, when he hit .286/.352/.560 with 34 homers over 537 plate appearances and delivered Gold Glove-winning defense in left field. This all-around performance translated to a 5.5 fWAR that topped by only 13 players in the sport, and O’Neill finished eighth in NL MVP voting.
Unsurprisingly, O’Neill and the Cardinals had some talks about a multi-year contract extension during the 2021-22 offseason, though it wasn’t known if the two sides floated a deal to cover just O’Neill’s arbitration years or beyond. (The Cards subsequently won an arb hearing against O’Neill that resulted in a $3.4MM salary for the outfielder in 2022, rather than his desired $4.15MM figure.) Given how the next two seasons played out for O’Neill, St. Louis might have caught a break by not agreeing to a long-term deal, though it’s safe to say that neither side was particularly satisfied with the outfielder’s results during the 2022-23 seasons.
O’Neill has hit only .229/.310/.397 with 23 home runs over 649 PA since Opening Day 2022, good for a slightly below-average 98 wRC+. The key statistic there might be the plate appearances, or lack thereof — O’Neill played in just 168 of a possible 324 games due to several injuries. A hip impingement and a hamstring strain limited him to 96 games in 2022, and then a lower back sprain and a foot sprain led to more injured list time in 2023 and only 72 appearances.
Injuries also hampered O’Neill prior to 2021, thus making him a tricky player to properly evaluate. Does that career year serve as an example of what O’Neill can do if he can ever stay healthy, or was even that giant 2021 campaign perhaps something of an outlier even beyond O’Neill’s lack of time on the IL? A hefty .366 BABIP puts something of an asterisk on O’Neill’s 2021 numbers, even allowing for the fact that his speed and baserunning ability helped him naturally turn a few extra grounders into base hits. His walk rate was also well below the league average in 2021, though curiously, O’Neill posted much more solid walk numbers in 2022-23, as well as the 2020 season.
The number that has stayed consistent, unfortunately for O’Neill, is his strikeout rate. Since making his MLB debut in 2018, O’Neill’s 30% strikeout rate ranks seventh among all batters with at least 1600 PA. While his K% has gotten better in each of the last two seasons, all of this swing-and-miss in O’Neill’s approach has curbed his effectiveness at the plate and made him something of a one-dimensional hitter.
It probably also hasn’t helped that O’Neill spent much of the 2023 season hearing his name in trade rumors. Between the Cardinals’ outfield depth and his down year in 2022, O’Neill suddenly seemed to become expendable, even if St. Louis was naturally still putting a significant asking price on his services. It isn’t known what offers the Cards might’ve received for O’Neill at the time or what trades might have been floated or seriously discussed, yet in 20-20 hindsight, St. Louis might’ve been better served in moving O’Neill while his trade value was a little higher.
The outfielder’s rough 2023 season only diminished that value, and the year got off to an immediate awkward start when O’Neill was benched for a game for what manager Oliver Marmol felt was a lack of baserunning effort the previous night. That situation seemed like a harbinger for the end of O’Neill’s time with the organization, yet he Cardinals ended up retaining O’Neill at the trade deadline even through the struggling club made some other sell-off moves.
A trade didn’t materialize until December, when the Red Sox landed O’Neill for pitching prospects Nick Robertson and Victor Santos. Baseball America ranks Robertson as the 25th-best prospect in the St. Louis farm system and he made his MLB debut in 2023 with the Dodgers, yet the trade return has to be considered a bit of a disappointment for the Cards considering what the return might have been for O’Neill even last offseason. From Boston’s perspective, of course, the deal could be seen as an intriguing buy-low situation. The Royals and (O’Neill’s former team) Mariners were two of the other teams publicly linked to O’Neill’s trade market, and it’s safe to assume that several other teams checked in with the St. Louis front office.
Health is obviously the biggest x-factor for O’Neill going forward, yet Fenway Park is a pretty nice landing spot for a player looking to regain his hitting stroke. It’s easy to imagine O’Neill suddenly launching a few homers over the Green Monster, though that same wall will also provide an interesting challenge to O’Neill in his regular role as the new Sox left fielder. After winning Gold Gloves in both 2020 and 2021, O’Neill’s defensive numbers were much closer to average over the last two seasons, so he’ll also be looking for a rebound in the field as well as at the plate.
O’Neill turns 29 in June, and he’ll be a free agent following the 2024 season. He’ll have all the opportunity in the world with a Red Sox team that seems to be something in a state of flux between partially rebuilding and trying to legitimately contend, and it can be argued that buying low on a recent MVP candidate can be slotted into either direction. Another year of struggles could limit O’Neill’s ceiling to platoon roles and one-year deals going forward, yet if he can avoid the IL and show anything close to his 2021 season offensively or defensively, a nice multi-year contract could be in offing next winter.
With luck, he can do well enough at the deadline to net some decent return.
It seems like there were many hitters who had their best years in 2021 but never quite come close to those number since (or before even). Tyler O’Neill, Dylan Carlson, Vladimir Guerreo Jr, Jonathan India, Cedric Mullins so on. Was that another juiced ball year?
I think it was! Not as much but somewhat. Maybe MLB used up the old 2019 balls that year lol…..
jorge – It was not, in 2021 they scored 1,500 fewer runs than in 2019 (the previous full season) and 400 fewer runs than in 2023.
This dude is gonna mash for the Sox. Excited he gets another opportunity away from Marmol. It may be likely that his body type best suits a DH role in time. All of that body building takes its toll.
Think he builds the same way Barry B did.
“Same way Barry B did”…A major difference between Bonds & Oneill is Oneill always looked like a pro bodybuilder, whereas Bonds was once long & lean(only later looking like an NFL linebacker). I’m obviously not very high on Oneill as a baseball player, but I don’t see the point of besmirching his character, when I’ve never heard ANYTHING about Oneill being a juicer, PED guy.
pro bodybuilders are all juicers though
“Pro bodybuilders are all juicers”…I’m not necessarily disagreeing about “pro bodybuilders”, but keep in mind that Oneill looks like a bodybuilder, but works as a professional baseball player. I’m also pretty sure the MLB PED program is much more rigorous than any bodybuilder’s PED program, if bodybuilders even have an anti PED program.
Tyler’s dad was a Mr. Universe if I remember correctly, so it’s a bit of a pedigree I’d say
“Bit of a pedigree”…Even if it were true about the father, and we certainly don’t know that; I’m not sold on the concept of penalizing the son for the sins of the father.
I’m just saying he knows how to do it the right way, within the rules. But he likely started as a young man, which isn’t great for joints and growth plates.
GCS 2.0
Marmol wasn’t the one causing all of his injuries.
No. However Tyler knows his body and when to push it and when to concede. Either way u don’t call out your players in the press like that. I wouldn’t work for a dude like that either
If you are trying to defend Oli Marmol—— you are probably getting ready to have 2/3’s of the 3 Million Cardinals fans and ticket holders down your throat.
Cardinals Fans are United on only one thing heading into 2024. They have a United opinion the Cardinals would be a playoff team and an internally United team if Marmol wasn’t their manager in 2024.
I disagree. I think Marmol was ONE factor for the team losing last year (or at least he did little to help) but there were a LOT of factors, and looking at this year’s team, it’s hard to think we’re significantly better talent-wise.
Exactly. Another bad trade. The Red Sox have become the destination for all the broken athletes. For a franchise that was on a upward trajectory for 15 years they sure have cornered the market on stupid since trading a generational talent. Some dude named Mookie.
The Cardinals fleeced them in the Allen Craig trade well before the Red Sox traded away Mookie.
Yes, it’s only the Red sox that get “all the broken athletes”
Very astute.
Think he could ever replicate that season? He’s always had the power. Would .260/.350 with 30 HR’s still be in the cards for him?
He’ll steal second off Holmes and Yoshida will knock him in to tie the game. The rest is history.
I looked today, and he’s still NOT in the lineup
For some reason people want to keep believing O’Neill is a good hitter. Take out the 100 games of 2021 where he went bonkers and he is left with 1200 PA of 230/301/410 with a 30% K rate. That is basically Kevin Kiermaier without the otherworldly defense
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Ronald Acuña isn’t a good hitter. If you take out all the games when he got on base, he’s never gotten on base.
How about Ronald Acuña, Jr then? 🙂
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The same
a track record of 1200 PA at 711 OPS seems to be what he is, not the guy that got hot for a little while
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Throwing away data because you don’t like it, is not scientifically sound
But that’s what Republicans do.
Well, the current pile, not historically, though.
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I bet if YO7 didn’t throw data away, you’d fund ample examples of democrats (and all other political leanings) who do the same thing.
As, you, yourself, are, presumably, an example ample of
its not throwing away data when there is more data to back up that he just isn’t a good hitter, he has 3x the amount of PAs of his hot streak that proves it
Must be nice to feel like you’re on the side of morality.
Can’t believe it but filihok made a valid point.
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That is, literally, literally, throwing away data
“This data doesn’t fit my expectation, so,throw it away”.
People,who maxed out in middle school science should listen more than they speak.
What’s that saying about smart people being full of doubt and idiots being sure of themselves?
Let’s stay off Politics the Dem in the WH is brain dead for goodness sake
BRP
“Let’s stay off Politics the Dem in the WH is brain dead for goodness sake”
Imagine being this un-self-aware
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so Brady Anderson is a power hitter, right? because he had one season where he hit 50 HR means we can’t treat that as an outlier
No
“so Brady Anderson is a power hitter, right? because he had one season where he hit 50 HR means we can’t treat that as an outlier”
Please tell me you aren’t so dumb you think that was a reasonable and logical thing to say
Do you see the difference between Brad Anderson and o’Niel? I’ll five you a hint: the past and future are different
Those are only the Repblicans who support Trump. There are a lot of us who hate Trump almost as much the Democrats do, you know.
Filihok is the biggest coward and tool there is.
Top 5.
Probably the best addition this offseason by the Red Sox I feel like Lucas G will be in the neighborhood of a 4.5 Era in the Al East. This isn’t the Central
O’Neill’s downfall was very predictable. The dude is jacked out of his mind, and he’ll always produce in the power department with enough at-bats, but also has terrible plate discipline.. we are starting to see more guys that have a below average hit tool, poor plate discipline and only have power as a plus asset get weeded out.
The only way the power-only plus tool can work is if a guy can also take a very high number of walks as well, otherwise the value goes down in a hurry.
That’s completely false
Where have the Joey Gallo, Adam Duvall, Javy Baez types gone? Seems to me they’ve been exposed, and lost their value. Who are players that currently have similar outputs similar to what they did in their prime? Low avg, low OBP, high OPS
He’s not any of those guys. Your comp is lazy and incorrect.
He’s actually very similar to them.
O’Neill Career .248/.318/.776
Duvall Career .232/.291/.763
Baez Career .256/.298/.744
Gallo Career .197/.323/.789
And if you compared all of them through their age 28 seasons, the numbers would make the other 3 look a lot better than O’Neill.
How many of those guys have 2 gold gloves? How many of those guys are great baserunners?
There is more to baseball besides hitting. I watched him play since 2018. He’s a very unique player who needs to train smarter, needs better coaching and more support from management.
@RyanD44…Personally I think you’re making some real solid points. Remember, there was a time when people(& team execs) thought that the Roughned Odor type of player was a budding Super Star in the making. Some real solid points.
Actually, Gallo has 2 gold gloves, Duvall and Baez both have one. Gallo and Baez were both exceptional baserunners in their 20s.
Next argument, please.
Mlb fan he’s not that player. He really isn’t. He has the ability to work a count and take good at bats but he gets off track and starts swinging like He Man. He can take the ball the other way his power plays to all fields but again he forgets his approach sometimes he needs someone to remind him not blame him for all the teams problems.
He has similarities to Gallo but he’s a different player. Duvall and Baez not anywhere close. And you are just picking names out of a hat that haven’t had success recently. I could pick names that have it doesn’t make it a legit comp.
ONeill is one of the fastest guys in the league. His power speed combo is unmatched. Like I said he’s Mike Trout minus the brains and baseball instincts.
He’s 28. If all those things you’re saying are true, where are the results? Health is part of being a good player. You can talk all day about how good Byron Buxton could be IF he was healthy, but he can’t stay healthy, so that makes him not anywhere near what he “could” be.
“He’s Mike Trout minus brains and instincts.”
WHAT?
“He’s one of the greatest players in the history of the game, but just needs to be smarter.”
Your argument was already bad.. this just made you look ridiculous.
I’m not sure those slash lines prove your point. All those players got to theirs in different fashions, and a 20 point OBP, a 59 point BA and a 45 point career OPS are pretty significant differences to try and tie those four players together.
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He didn’t get to play full time until 2021. He came up in 2018 and played well but Dexter Fowler and his contract was around and ONeill was benched. It wasn’t health related the team had to prove the Fowler contract wasn’t terrible so Fowler played.
Like I said already he has to train smarter it’s been a legit problem. He trains like his dad who is a former bodybuilder and that’s not how a baseball player should train. But it’s not all injuries. Even last year he came off the IL played 2 games and sat the 3rd because the team wanted to prove Jordan Walker was good which of course he wasnt.
Mike Trout minus brains and instincts isn’t a great player. That’s my point.
Hence the article’s name: “Make or Break Year”.
Here’s the thing. Does he have the talent to be a good major league player? Does he have the ability to adjust to the fact that pitchers will change the way they approach him when he has success? Is there a support system in place for when he is not performing up to his potential? Does that support system include the proper guidance to get him where he needs to be to succeed?
Aren’t these questions appropriate to most players?
ONeill has never had the full support of the team that’s part of the problem. At first he had to sit behind Fowler. Then Carlson came along and they gave playing time to him over ONeill. And last year it was Walker and his .2 WAR getting all the playing time.
He needed a fresh start. With the right coaching and better health he’s a star.
Thanks for the laughs. Your take is comedy gold.
It’s true that Fowler played over O’Neiil more than he should have in 2018. (Although, Matheny had actually benched Fowler pretty early on, but then Matheny got fired, and his replacement Shildt stupidly put Fowler back in the lineup until he broke his foot in August.)’
However, that was only in 2018. In 2019, Fowler easily outplayed O’Neill and thus deserved to start ahead of him.
In 2020, they were both starters, and O’Neill did play full-time.. Although, once again, Fowler outplayed O’Neiil, at least when Fowler wasn’t injured or sick with COVID-19. O’Neill only played as much as he did in that shortened season due to the Cardinals having a poor offensive outfield in general, while O’Neill could at least play defense.
Then of course, O’Neill was a full-time starter again in 2021 and fully deserved for the first time.
Also, when he came off the IL last year, he only played 2 out of 3 games in an attempt to preserve his health (which ultimately didn’t work), not anything to do with Walker. Besides, Walker WAS a good player in the second half.
Fowler sucked in 2019. His defense was terrible he produced. 8 WAR that year. Fowler played because of the contract and it impacted ONeills playing time when it shouldn’t have.
O’Neill initially had to sit behind Fowler, because O’Neill sucked back then, and Fowler actually outplayed him (aside from 2018). That’s how it works!
O’Neill has NEVER lost playing time to Carlson! O’Neill was a full-time starter in 2020 when Carlson got his first (terrible) look at the Big Leagues. In 2021, they were both full-time starters. In 2022-23, O’Neill played whenever he was healthy, while Carlson did the same but gradually lost playing time due to losing the ability to hit righties until he became just a short-side platoon player.
Likewise, O’Neill didn’t lose much playing time to Walker, either. There was a huge logjam early on last year that cost every outfielder some playing time while the team tried to sort them all out, but O’Neill mostly played when healthy. He just wasn’t very healthy, even when not on the IL.
Wrong! Fowler put up a very decent 103 wRC+ in 2019 compared to 92 for O’Neill.
That large offensive difference exceeded the defensive difference between them (given how much more valuable offense is compared to defense in general), so O’Neill would’ve provided even worse value that year even if he had gotten the same amount of playing time.
There is more to baseball besides offense. Fowler was Jordan Walker level bad on defense in 2019. He wasn’t entirely healthy and on top of that he was lazy.
Look up their WAR. ONeill was the better player in 2019 hands down. ONeill was a gold glover in the making and super fast. Fowler was a bum who was a league average hitter and did nothing else well.
he is a musclehead
His plate discipline improved a lot in 2021 and didn’t revert that far in 2022 or 2023. The main issue since his breakout has been injuries that have either kept him off the field completely or sapped his rate stats by playing hurt.
Yeah he’s gonna strike out still but he has improved his plate discipline for sure. Pitchers were all pitching him the same way last year low and away. He was figuring it out but too many injuries to get in a groove.
ONeill is not a perfect player. If ONeill had Tommy Edmans brains he would be Mike Trout. But that’s not how life works if it was it wouldn’t be fair.
His biggest problem the last few years is he was training incorrectly. His dad is a famous bodybuilder and he had been training like a bodybuilder and not like a baseball player. This led to injuries.
Another problem is as I already mentioned he’s kinds dumb. He needs a good hitting coach which he never had in St Louis. Pitchers pitch him a certain way they throw him low and outside because he can’t hit that pitch. He has to learn to lay off it which he is getting better but he’s still learning.
The most important thing for him is health. He has to stay healthy enough to get in a groove and play without worry of reinjuring himself.
There is a very good chance he’s the Red Sox best player in 2024.
“He’s the Red Sox best player in 2024″….The Red Sox owners are asleep at the wheel and I think the Redsox are headed for another last place or second to last place finish in 2024. I tend to agree with the poster who suggests that outside of a 90 game(approximately)stretch, Oneill has been an oft-injured, below average player. There’s good reason the Cards were in a hurry to trade Oneill. The one upside with Oneill is this is his walk year and many guys perform best(and stay healthy)in their walk years.
The Cardinals have made stupid decision after stupid decision regarding outfielders over the last decade and this is another one of those stupid decisions.
ONeill has NEVER been a below average player. Never ever ever.
Marmol is a bum and he’s going to be fired soon.
Spot on. I would ask though what team is worse in the ALE than Boston? On paper all of them are better. The Sox are a seriously flawed team. Below average starting pitching. Bad defense at 1B, 2B, 3B and LF. Their paying a ton of money to Devers and Story who don’t produce close to what their contracts are. Their waiting on this “great core”.. Earth to the Red Sox front office—-their called prospects for a reason.
“Bad defense at 1B, 2B, 3B and LF.”
And CF unless Duran (if he’s still on the team opening day) can take another step forward in his defense. The overall defensive picture is pretty bad.
Um, trading for O’Neill means they now have good defense in LF.
The Cards got 47 year old Victor Santos in this deal? Cause that’s what the link goes to.
How many make or break years does a player get? He’s at least going on his second, maybe third. Personally, I think he has all the talent and all the tools, but couldn’t stay on the field enough to be consistent. Tough to say they’ll regret trading him as he was essentially replaced last year but I do think he’ll have a monster year away from Marmol.
If he’s raking come July and the Cardinals are below 500 Marmol will be fired. That’s the only thing good that will come from trading ONeill.
Look up how many games ONeill has missed HEALTHY. It’s a bigger number than you would think it is.
I’m surprised Marmol hasn’t been fired yet. I thought they would have canned him during last season or for sure in October. To be fair, it helps his case that the front office keeps parading–and thus forcing him to play–old timers like Molina, Wainwright, etc. Haven’t they signed Matt Carpenter recently?
Everyone seems to forget that there were no issues with Marmol in 2022. After one really good year and one really bad year, you need to give the guy a third year to find out which is more real.
Besides, even managers on consistently bad teams usually get at lest 3 years before they get fired.
As for the old timers, Molina was still the best catcher they had even in his last year, and it’s not like they had any real options to replace Wainwright in the rotation and do much better than he was. Meanwhile, Carpenter has been signed to solely be a bench player this year.
That’s only because of the early logjam and later trying to manage his health, since he was still dealing with a bad back even when not on the IL. “Healthy” is a relative term.
Seems more likely to play RF than LF for Boston
He can play either left or right but he doesn’t have a good arm. He definitely does not belong in center especially in Boston.
Wouldn’t be the first time a player got significantly better after leaving this version of the Cardinals….Genesis Cabrera, Jordan HIcks and Jordan Montgomery all significantly cut their walk rates and ERAs after the trade last year. Given the minimal cost, this was a smart pickup by the Red Sox. Incented as O’Neill is in his walk year, I expect he’ll be a nice trade chip for the Red Sox.
STL and Marmol in particular were completely at fault for the Marmol fiasco that involved ONeill. No MLB manager ever publicly criticizes any player the way Marmol did and then expects anyone to have respect for the manager, who is a joke, and the player who surprisingly took the high road and did not openly criticize Marmol for being a fool. Then STL says they will trade him openly and says he has no home in STL in the future yet is upset when the players they get in return are not blue chippers. STL will never be anything but average with Marmol and Mozeliak there. 2024 will be the end of both once they stumble and bumble. Past time for a change in STL.
The only good thing I see from trading ONeill is it will hopefully lead to Marmol being fired. And if Mozeliak can’t hire a manager with experience he needs to go too.
Yes, Marmol made ONE mistake there. What does that incident have to do with Mozeliak? Meanwhile, openly putting players on the trade block happens all the time, and the team itself isn’t upset with the return for O’Neill.
Did you forget that the team HAS BEEN ABOVE AVERAGE EVERY SINGLE YEAR except last year since Mozeliak first took over as GM? The team was also well above average in Marmol’s first year as manager.
You guys REALLY need to learn not to overreact to one bad year! If they’re really bad again this year, only then should you start bringing out the pitchforks, and even then Mozeiak’s and Girsch’s incredible track record should still give them some leeway.
I don’t know as a Sox fan. A good gamble but he only had one good season.
He reminds me a lot of Colby Rasmus.
“He reminds me a lot of Colby Rasmus”
Minus the top ten MVP finish.
There’s an old adage in baseball that says, if he’s done it once, he’s capable of doing it again. We’ve SEEN Tyler O’Neill be a great player, offensively, defensively and on the basepaths. That means, he’s got the ability to do so again (it’s not like he’s 40 years old). Not saying he will, but the fact that he’s done it before means it’s in his skillset..
I thought this guy was going to be a star with Toronto. He had such a sweet, yet powerful, swing. Pretty good defensively too. The guy looked genuinely bored all the time though. I doubt he practiced much, which is a shame given the natural talent he had.
TON will play 40 games. Fools gold.
As a Cards fan and Tyler fan he was a fast base runner but not a great base runner .
O’Neill has two things going; good hitters park and he is right handed. At worst he will face left handed pitching. At best he finds himself in that park and in that division.
I get Allen Craig vibes from this guy and I can’t fully explain why.
Both went fromm St. Louis at one point in their careers. Allen was traded for John Lackey of all players.
Not sure if he’s a wrestling fan but if he is and baseball doesn’t pan out. His 45″ pylon forearms would be great for a sleeper hold finisher.
I’m hoping Tyler figures it out and has a HUGE year. I loved watching him play until last season.
The Cardinals handling of him never made any sense.
They should have dealt him last year at the trade deadline just to improve the clubhouse atmosphere. It was obvious that even though he handled Mo’s comments pretty well, he never really got over it. The Cardinals had a logjam in the OF anyway and they weren’t going anywhere. A trade would have offered closure for both O’Neill and the team. But Mo’s a moron, so…………….
Best of luck in Boston.
How is their pitching depth ??
I heard it’s not all that deep but atleast the
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I said it when the Cardinals traded him, he will have a big year in Boston. It’s a contract year and he will play like it.
O’Neill was an unnecessary risky move. So was Giolito. Grissom is a nice young player who cost $17MM and the use of Sale in 2024. Huge over pay.
The most aggravating thing about this off season is that all it takes is initiative to fix things. Add Snell, Montgomery/Woodruff and Chapman.and the team jumps into playoff contention. The payroll is no worse than the Bloom years and tweaking can happen after there are more all-stars on the roster.
Breslow = it’s never too late to be a hero.
There is no chance that Breslow has the financial flexibility for doing those moves. The reality ownership has already said they expect the payroll to be lower then last years payroll. Ownership’s not green lighting Breslow on those expenditures. I think ownership was willing to extend itself to sign Yamamoto to a big contract but that was likely the only guy they were willing to spend on. No what you see is what you get it’s so bad that Breslow came out and said they would likely have to move a guy to add a guy. That’s not a POBO who has any payroll room let alone the 75 million plus add those moves would take. Breslow has no payroll left to work with it’s quite obvious.
Bruin1012 – Stop talking out of your rear end. You have no idea what flexibility he has. Just stop pretending you know.
Lets see, have the owners ever said something they didn’t do?
Your Yamamoto comment is completely unfounded.
This POBO has a ton of money and no balls.
The obvious to you is not obvious to normal people. You loved Bloom and you were 100% wrong about him. Now you are a Breslow apologist and once again 100% wrong.
The funny part is most people observe this clown and like Bloom have no idea what he is thinking because he’s completely illogical and working on a different plain but you professed your great knowledge of his insights and where he is going just like Bloom..
It’s no different now. You have no idea what you are talking about. It’s like when you predict what going to happen in the coming year as if it’s a certainty. It’s not. Just as ALL your certain comments above have absolutely no certainty but that doesn’t stop you from declaring what the facts are despite your ridiculously bad track record.
It’s amazing to me for someone who thinks they are so smart you’re really quite clueless. Anyone with a half a brain realizes ownership isn’t spending this off-season. FSG just spent a ton of money on the PGA tour and they are spending like crazy on real estate and upgrades around the park. It’s likely Breslow took the job knowing he couldn’t spend this off season and was fine with it. Ownership is probably quite aware this team is not going to compete for a championship they are quite content at this point to milk this cow and fund their other ventures.
By the way I didn’t love Bloom I just said give the guy a chance. He did some good things but as I’ve said many times before he lost me completely in 2022 when he barely went over the lux tax when tried to sell and buy at the same time. He did some good things with the farm but your blind hatred can’t see that. My track record is pretty damn good actually your track record is hilarious. You’re the one who tries to predict their record with terrible results I don’t do that. When you judge talent especially minor league talent you’re going to miss on a few it’s just the way it is.
The problem right now is with ownership and they don’t want to spend with the big boys at this time. It’s really quite simple it’s an ownership unwilling to spend issue because they have got their hands in so many other ventures right now. They care more about increasing their sports holdings than spending money on free agents to make the Red Sox better.
Tbh as a red sox fan this gives me 2023 cubs cody bellinger vibes
redsox – Frankly, it’s just illogical enough for it to happen. Our greatest strength is our deep young outfielders so it would make sense that Breslow would make yet another mistake and over pay for an outfielder.
Seems to me based on his performance so far, Bellinger might not be enough of a project to over pay for him but we’ve seen all kinds of weird choices since they fired DD so it’s hard to be surprised by any bad move made by the GM of the Red Sox.
I do see breslow doing something dumb like that, but i mean acquiring o’neill is the 2024 equivalent of the cubs getting bellinger in 23 and him doing well
Make or break…. his back lol
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