While the highlight of the Dodgers’ offseason is of course the signing of superstar Shohei Ohtani, the club has worked hard to overhaul its starting rotation after the unit struggled to a collective 4.57 ERA last year, a figure that ranked 20th among major league clubs. They’ve been very successful in that regard, signing NPB star Yoshinobu Yamamoto while dealing for and extending right-hander Tyler Glasnow. The club appears to have recently rounded out its rotation mix (give or take a possible reunion with long-time franchise face Clayton Kershaw) with the addition of veteran southpaw James Paxton, though MLB.com’s Juan Toribio recently reported that the club recently looked into making a bigger splash even after adding Yamamoto and Glasnow.
Per Toribio, the club “looked into” trades for Corbin Burnes, Dylan Cease, Shane Bieber, and Jesus Luzardo in the aftermath of the club adding Yamamoto and Glasnow back in December. Since then, Burnes has been dealt to the Orioles while Cease appears increasingly unlikely to move before Opening Day after being frequently connected to the Dodgers earlier in the offseason. Bieber and Luzardo, on the other hand, had not yet been publicly connected to the Dodgers this winter. It’s unclear if the Dodgers retain interest in either hurler with Paxton now on board, but either would certainly be an intriguing addition for the league’s most aggressive club this winter.
Bieber, 28, is coming off a down season relative to his own lofty standards as he posted a 3.80 ERA and 3.87 FIP while being limited to just 21 starts by a bout of elbow inflammation. Still, the two-time All Star and 2020 AL Cy Young award winner has been among the best pitchers in the league over the past half decade, with a 3.07 ERA and 3.12 FIP in 114 appearances dating back to the 2019 season and would figure to improve virtually any rotation if traded for, including that of the Dodgers. Bieber has also indicated a willingness to negotiate an extension with his new club in the event that he’s traded, meaning its feasible that a trade could net the Dodgers a longer-term asset than Bieber’s one year of team control would otherwise imply.
While the Guardians figure to attempt to remain competitive in a weak AL Central division this year, they’ve shown a propensity for dealing star players elsewhere before they reach free agency as demonstrated by deals shipping out players such as Corey Kluber and Francisco Lindor. What’s more, The Athletic’s Zack Meisel reported back in December that the Guardians are unlikely to increase payroll above last year’s levels in 2024, leaving them with little room to upgrade their flawed positional mix without shedding salary or trading an asset. A Bieber deal would allow the club to accomplish both of those goals, potential adding a hitter as part of the return for the right-hander while also freeing up $13.125MM in the club’s budget for other additions.
Luzardo, 26, struggled early in his career as a member of the A’s but has flourished in the years since he was acquired by Miami. In the past two years, Luzardo has made 50 starts to the tune of a 3.52 ERA with a 3.40 FIP. The 26-year-old southpaw has struck out an impressive 28.7% of batters faced during that time while walking 7.9%, establishing himself as the #2 starter in Miami behind ace Sandy Alcantara. With Alcantara expected to miss the 2024 campaign due to Tommy John surgery, however, Luzardo is currently penciled in as the staff ace ahead of the likes of Eury Perez, Braxton Garrett, and Edward Cabrera. Important as Luzardo may be to Miami’s rotation entering 2024, the club is nonetheless reportedly open to dealing him or another piece from the rotation, with only Perez reportedly untouchable in trade talks. Luzardo is under team control through the 2026 season.
While the addition of either Luzardo or Bieber would certainly bolster an already impressive Dodgers rotation, their recent addition of Paxton along with the uncertainty surrounding Kershaw’s future with the club leaves how an additional starter would fit into L.A.’s rotation puzzle questionable. On paper, the club’s rotation appears to be full as things stand with Yamamoto, Glasnow, and Paxton joining Walker Buehler and Bobby Miller. Talented as that group of five is, however, there’s plenty of questions surrounding that group’s durability. Glasnow and Paxton both have lengthy injury histories, Yamamoto has spent his career to this point pitching just once a week overseas, and Miller’s 138 2/3 innings of work last year between the majors and minors was a career high. Meanwhile, Buehler is coming off more than a season lost due to Tommy John surgery and even Kershaw, if brought back into the fold, isn’t expected to pitch until August as he rehabs from shoulder surgery.
While youngsters like Emmet Sheehan and Gavin Stone could certainly contribute meaningful innings to help the Dodgers overcome the lack of certainty in their rotation mix, the addition of a surefire starting arm such as Bieber or Luzardo could help solidify the club’s overall rotation mix headed into the season. While all evidence points to the club planning on a five-man rotation this season, it’s possible the Dodgers could be more amenable to the idea of using a sixth starter throughout the season given the fact that they’ll be forced to implement a six-man staff when Ohtani returns to the mound next year.
The Dodgers are far from the only club that may be interested in the services of Luzardo or Bieber, of course; the Yankees expressed interest in both arms last month. Earlier in the offseason, the Marlins and Royals reportedly discussed a deal involving Luzardo and first baseman Vinnie Pasquantino, while Bieber reportedly drew interest from teams such as the Cubs and Reds.
Alvo Sumatro
Still looking for their first legitimate world series title since 1988.
DarkSide830
I mean, that means less now seeing as he’s off the table.
Brew88
~ he rolled on the floor, and now my poor Bieber rolled out the door ~
DarkSide830
this was a response to deGrom my bad.
Brew88
Sorry I can’t think of a off the table deGrom encore
underdog
They won a title in 2020. It doesn’t matter what trolls want to call it or not call it. But yes they are also looking for another one and celebrating in front of their own fans since they didn’t have that in 2020.
Americanentropy
Thank you. There is no shortage of LA hatred and silly comments. Maybe such energy should be spent on their own teams? Too much to ask for I guess.
conquerbeard
I’m a Red Sox fan – have been my whole life. I like the Dodgers, though, especially since that’s where they sent Mookie. Honestly, given the Red Sox’s current, uh, strategy towards spending and such, I’m *happy* for Dodgers fans because they’re getting to experience what it’s like when a team’s front office/ownership do their absolute most to produce a winner (like the Red Sox circa 2003/2004 up till 2019).. I hope they win it all in 2024 somewhat because I, too, would like to have the “2020 doesn’t count, hurr durr” people silenced for a bit. Of course, if the Red Sox were to win it, I wouldn’t be upset, either, but the Dodgers are hella fun and if you’re a fan of baseball, I don’t know how you can’t at least appreciate the effort.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
LAD get so much TV revenue, good farm system with many good prospects and they have almost an all star team and the are trying to create “deep” depth. Captain Obvious says they will be hard to beat but it can be done in a short playoff series. kinda like Bugs Bunny’s old nemesis the “Gas House Gorillas” maybe 😉
Mojo37
thank you
mlb fan
“LAD get so much TV revenue”..Yep. A short series will nullify many of the Dodgers talent advantages. No one will beat them in the regular season, but in a short or even 7 gm series anything can happen.
Guard the Vogt
It’s not that at all Hudler. We like to see them waste their money and come away with nothing in the end.
thebirds
Makes, uh sense, for, the post part, but, I’m, not, quite, su,re if, you,re using enough, uh, commons in, you’re, comment,?,
thebirds
Commas,*
conquerbeard
I’m sorry that punctuation upsets you.
Guard the Vogt
I’m sorry you think the dodgers are hella fun because they spend so much money. That’s precisely the reason I root against them. I don’t have any issues with your commas tho. Well done, actually.
Zombie Bukowski
*
Red Sox Restoration Project
I wouldn’t call Trevor Bauer’s one good Cy Young season of 60 innings legitimate. Guy was not good any other season, but they crowned him a king in 2020. Maybe the playoffs was “legit” but the regular season was far from it, so how can you really justify the playoffs? It was more of a small tournament than an actual World Series.
Call the playoffs legit or not, but the regular season was far from it. The seeding could have all changed through the course of a full season. Teams were playing without the full season grind, which is a completely different mentality than the full season.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
It’s a two-way street. You guys don’t have to get so emotional & sensitive every time somebody brings up the asterisks-laden Covid Clown Car Tournament of 2020. Maybe in an ideal world there would be less baiting of such traps, and fewer easy marks willing to take the bait in their shrill sanctimonious self-righteousness. But I guess that ideal world is an ongoing work in progress.
This one belongs to the Reds
Face it, Dodgers fans get their panties in a bunch every time their team is called out for that, their extreme advantage from their massive local TV money haul, the fact they can’t win despite that haul, their team playing hard and fast with the rules their boy in the commissioners office allows, etc.
It’s just a fact of life.
underdog
” asterisks-laden Covid Clown Car Tournament of 2020. ” Yeah I definitely want to have a rational debate with you about this. [eyeroll]
Same fans will also say that 2017, when they lost a 7 game World Series to a team that was later proven to have cheated in a championship (sorry to rational Astros fans here), DOES count and they should stop “whining” about it. And then when this current team does win a world series, it “won’t count” because you see, the Dodgers “bought” a championship. So why any rational fan should spend a second debating this stuff with goal-post moving pot-stirrers, lest we be having a conversation that is “emotional and sensitive.” The truth is in the handle. Peace out.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
@underdog Just for the record, if the Dodgers go out and win the World Series this year I would be 100% fine with that and would enjoy watching them do it. I am only a Covid 2020 Season Hater not a Dodgers Hater.
jjd002
I’m an Astros fan but I can say I would 100% count 2020 if they had won. I don’t think the season should have been played, but it was and all 30 teams had the same chance. Every fanbase would claim the same if their team had won in 2020. I do not however take anyone’s individual season serious that year. 60 games has proven to be a hot streak for many players.
JCL10
@alvo
What a delusional, bad take.
2020 was as legit of any championship any team has won. In fact the Dodgers had to beat more teams in the playoffs to advance than other year.
Only recent World Series that shouldn’t have counted was the Astros in 2017 for illegally stealing signs.
Alvo Sumatro
The full season is part of being a champion. It’s not just a playoff tournament. 2020 was not legitimate.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
The only thing that is not legitimate is your change in user names.
JCL10
Dodgers have made the playoffs every year for the past 12 years and won the division 11 of the last 12 years. They absolutely would have made the playoffs with the roster they had so your point is is therefore irrelevant.
IronBallsMcGinty
@Alvo, would you say that if it was your favorite team that won?
LonnieB
I would have counted it if the Braves would have not sh@t the bed against the dodgers in 2020. Count it. F the haters. Dodgers are the best at buying the best team money can buy and filling their seats. No one can predict a 162 season or even a 60 game season. It’s why baseball is the best sport around.
LonnieB
You sir have had your fill of haterade please mix in a water.
JPR
Because you say so? This view is so tired and pathetic. Baseball history is littered with seasons that were in some way unusual – that’s the way it goes.
JoeBrady
Alvo Sumatro1 hour ago
The full season is part of being a champion.
=========================
They won the full season, They were 100 points higher than SD.
Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee
Enjoy your cope, Lil bro from No-cal….
Alvo Sumatro
Considering the fact that i hit over 70 hr and stole more than 90 bases with the Dodgers, I’d say it qualifies as my team.
LonnieB
Don’t be BS’ing anyone unless you are gonna throw your name around. I could just as say I am the real Hank as you say you hit anything fool.
Alvo Sumatro
You’re welcome for the entertainment if you were watching in the early to mid 2000s.
filihok
AS
“If you need anymore proof that it wasn’t legitimate, clayton chokeshaw (the worst choker in mlb history) has a “ring” from it. There you go.”
An unseruous troll
Muted
fox471 Dave
Poor alvo, such a sad little guy.
Tigers3232
@Alvo, did every team start 2020 with the same rules?? Do the record books say they were champions??
I will say 2020 obviously was unique and we can say what if. But someone was gonna end that season winning the World Series that ended up being the Dodgers. That’s just reality now.
Rishi
“Was as legit as any team has won”…well that’s simply not true. It was a fluky year. Many of the players were unprepared. Some didn’t even play. The stats for players were loaded with oddities. There was no 162 game grind. Some of the playoff teams were flukes. Yes, they won. It counts for something. It was a 60 game season. It was extended spring training with playoffs at the end. (To be a bit sensational). If it gave you enjoyment then good. I mean do we think the Freeman MVP is as notable as a 162 game MVP award? No. (Not that he isn’t worthy of an MVP). Surely even he will look at that trophy as less than what a full season MVP award would be if he gets one.
Americanentropy
It was legit because ALL teams were working within the same unusual circumstances. No one team was more disadvantaged than another. As someone pointed out elsewhere the Astros had an unfair advantage that makes their victory at least questionable, People need to set aside their LA hatred at think about this a bit more.
Rishi
It was legit but not the same. That’s all I mean. Like I said it meant something. But don’t you think they want to win a full season WS more?
filihok
Rishi
“It was legit but not the same. That’s all I mean”
This you?
““Was as legit as any team has won”…well that’s simply not true. ”
“don’t you think they want to win a full season WS more?”
I do not think they don’t want to win any more world series because they won in 2020, no
Americanentropy
IMO, winning a championship when all teams are up against the same obstacles should be celebrated. All you can say is that it was different, not better, not worse.
arty! Believes Jevon Belcher Quit on the Chiefs
It was legit because ALL teams were working within the same unusual circumstances. No one team was more disadvantaged than another.
That’s false.
Not all teams had players opt out
Not all teams experienced outbreaks or cases that meant certain players were ineligible to play
Blue jays had to play at their aaa stadium
Certain games were relocated due to high C19 numbers
Pretty sure I think it was guardians and marlins having a majority of their rosters catch an outbreak disproves your argument.
Americanentropy
You can only control for so much. Based on you logic special consideration should be given to teams that suffer more frequent injuries. Your logical is faulty.
arty! Believes Jevon Belcher Quit on the Chiefs
Injuries are part of the game. Every team knows they can happen
Forcing entire teams to sit out cause of a cold or possibly being exposed is not a regular thing. In fact many players play while sick before and after
Forcing a team to play at their aaa stadium doesn’t happen
Players aren’t given the choice to opt out every year
Realigning divisions so you only play AL West and NL West teams for 60 games isn’t an option
Your argument sucks. Don’t like it do better.
Rishi
Those statements aren’t contradictions. Did I say it was AS legit. No. Semantics anyway. I don’t think it’s as impressive or desireable (better?). Your last sentence about winning more World Series is also a misinterpretation of what I said.
Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee
Looks like you’re trying to convince yourself. Dodger fans don’t give a fack. Enjoy the cope….
Rishi
I guess your talking to me bluebludd?Well as a Braves fan why would I need to cope? They beat LA and won a WS in a full season the next year. And the one before that in 95 was still more recent than 88. Not hating on Dodgers (tho I don’t really like them). They are very much like the Braves I grew up watching. They are always good but never win (under ordinary circumstances). I know what that’s like. Honestly the Braves never won a single playoff series the entire time I watched them until recently. But I was alive in 90s…just not a fan yet. (2003 for me)
filihok
DbasL
What entire team sat out?
Players not being available for injury, sickness, suspension, paternity leave, etc, is part of the game.
Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee
You need to look in the mirror and ask yourself that question. Don’t know and don’t care about your motives. Although, I assume your backside must’ve hurt after the Bravos blew that 3-1 lead….
arty! Believes Jevon Belcher Quit on the Chiefs
“ 2020 was as legit of any championship any team has won.”
False
Realigning divisions
Limiting travel
Blue jays didn’t even get to play in their home stadium
Teams were forced to sit players who tested positive
No fans in stands
1/3 the games at 60
Teams were forced to play playoff games away from home stadiums
Players opted out of the season.
There were so many abnormalities about the 2020 season it will never be a “legit championship” because the rules that were in place won’t happen again on thay scale and not every team was affected in the same manner as others.
Celebrate it all you want but real fans know it will never be a legit trophy. It’s at best a participation trophy.
B-rocker
Sorry your team didn’t win.
arty! Believes Jevon Belcher Quit on the Chiefs
Sorry you celebrate a participation trophy.
B-rocker
Aww. Don’t be a sore Le-ou-za-her.
arty! Believes Jevon Belcher Quit on the Chiefs
Awe, you celebrate a participation trophy cause dodgers can’t actually win a legit World Series. Dodgers needed special accommodations like you do on the short bus and at school. Run along now work on your lettere, colors, numbers child you’ll learn them eventually.
Todays number: 0
Dodgers legit World Series since 88
Your IQ level
How woman women/men you’ve dated
Rent cost for living in your moms basement
B-rocker
Right now I am celebrating that I am not you.
arty! Believes Jevon Belcher Quit on the Chiefs
Cause you can’t celebrate dodgers having a legit World Series. Cause they don’t have one. Move along now.
LonnieB
I don’t like the dodgers but you may be the dumbest person I’ve met on the internet.
arty! Believes Jevon Belcher Quit on the Chiefs
Only behind you LonnieB . Can’t even spell your own last name huh?
LonnieB
Actually just first name and middle initial. Pretty crazy how drunk you are at 2:20 western time.
arty! Believes Jevon Belcher Quit on the Chiefs
It’s 8:20pm here. Do you not understand time zones? Course someone that can’t spell their own last name wouldn’t understand time zones.
LonnieB
I assume you are referencing loyd and harry here but the correct spelling would be la-who-za-her. It’s ok if you are an ignorant DA but please keep the BS at bay Monica.
LonnieB
That’s no excuse for being drunk and dumb on the internet.
LonnieB
I still don’t get the comment about my last name? It’s not referenced or shown anywhere and it’s your sticking point.
B-rocker
“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” Mark Twain
LonnieB
I mean you are correct.
filihok
DbasL
“participation trophy.”
Muted
arty! Believes Jevon Belcher Quit on the Chiefs
2020 will always and forever be an IEP season resulting in a participation trophy.
Special accommodations were made that no other season has had and probably will never have again.
Sorry to burst your bubbles homers but real fans know its significance is worth significantly less.
Only reason dodger fans want to claim it as a real trophy is cause they’ve done nothing but $?!) the bed during actual legit seasons.
Dodgers should win an actual World Series. Been a while.
arty! Believes Jevon Belcher Quit on the Chiefs
It’s funny. Idiots want to say 2020 was legit but mlb doesn’t even recognize 7 inning no hitter as no hitters lmao. So 2020 isn’t legit. Never has been never will be.
14thor
You never go full Rtard, sore Le-ou-za-her.
its_happening
Good points. Guys like Stroman opted to sit out 2020. Few others. Blue Jays did not play in Toronto.
DroppedThirdStrike
It’s legit. Move on
Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee
Love your public display of backside hurt. The cope is strong in you….
BabeRuthsPiano
Yup and the Dodgers forcing a cheating club to 7 games should actually be the 17 Champs and not the cheat stros
jjd002
Imagine saying 2020 was legit and 2017 wasn’t. Every team in the playoffs in 2017 was doing the same thing. Every MLB team had the same chance to win in 2020. Both are legit rings.
Dice 66
Not legit. Bought and paid for! Joke.
DarrenDreifortsContract
The same could be said about every team that won a world series during the steroids era.
Mojo37
Bonilla: 1999: 5.9 mill deferred with 8% interest over 25 years, Ken Griffey Jr.: 2000: $57.5 million in deferred payments with four percent interest to be paid from 2009 to 2024. Max Scherzer 2015: 105 million deferred over 13 years. Manny Ramirez 2010: Gets $2 mill annually over 16 years. Wake up.
filihok
Re mojo
Sutter: 1985: $4.8 million paid over 36 years with 13% interest. He received about 55 million total on his $9 million contract
Mojo37
exactly. and there plenty more where those came from. people act like the Dodgers invented this financial tactic in November.
BabeRuthsPiano
You would think that they do believe that. Funny thing is for Years the Yankees were the most hated and now that title belongs to the Dodgers
Mojo37
not the point. merely speaking to all the dissing of deferred payments.
its_happening
Someone had to win it.
Mickey Solis
Absolutely true. This team and its fanbase and city for that matter are a complete joke.
Basebombs
Tell me you live in a flyover state without telling me you live in a flyover state.
Zombie Bukowski
getting close to 40 years jajajaa
Very Barry
Dodgers spending all this money …. Yet, if a team has two aces who are on their game like Wheeler and Nola, they will get bounced quickly. Same goes for the Yankees.
D-Nice
I’m a Tigers fan, but I’ll be shocked if they don’t get it this year. They’re an Allstar team on paper. They just have to be clicking come October. I remember when we (Detroit) had Verlander, Scherzer, Price, Porcello and Fister and a good lineup…then lost to Baltimore in the first round. 5 Cy Youngs and two Triple Crown winners (Verlander and Cabrera) didn’t mean jack.
StreakingBlue
You are still looking for a legitimate reply since birth.
Dodgerfan34
You must have been asleep. Wait until you learn about the Astros. Wow!
deGrom/Langford Texas Ranger
How is Burnes not in the headline over Luzardo? Lol
jade 2
Where the Dodgers messed up was trading Pepiot for Glanow. Looking at the return for Burnes the Dodgers coulda gotten Burnes instead of Glasnow and maybe coulda made a larger package for Adames too.
As it stands the Dodgers don;t have anyone in the roation who threw more than 124 ip in the MLB last season. Seems like a dumb gamble for $300 mil dollar payroll..
Jack Hoffman
Why not? The dodgers could employ the first 10 man starting rotation in MLB history.
This one belongs to the Reds
They looked into it, but decided to defer.
CravenMoorehead
Dodgers would trade for Bieber in exchange for 10 players to be named later in 2028
underdog
Oh thank god, it was a good fifteen minutes before someone finally made this hilarious joke again on anything dodger related. Is the “Los Karens” comedy genius also in the thread yet? I won’t sleep until his long running contribution to popular culture is also here.
Player to be named in the future 2
It’s actually “Los Gavins”.Newsome has taken over the mantle.
B-rocker
Is that what passes for wit in Cincy?
This one belongs to the Reds
You reap what you sow.
B-rocker
You are sowing stupidity.
This one belongs to the Reds
The only stupidity is from Dodgers apologists who don’t want to admit the truth, and the large markets boy in the commissioners office that covers for them.
B-rocker
And you prove my point again. Apologize for what? What truth?
Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee
Sorry your backside hurts from Castellini being a shtty owner….
BlueSkies_LA
Half 0f it, anyway.
DarkSide830
too healthy
3768902
What, they didn’t want the Dodgers 1st round draft picks from the years 3000-4000?
vtadave
Would be funny (well not really) if you could actually trade picks.
Fail
3768902
Every party needs a pooper dave. Welcome
Clofreesz
You have Yamamoto, Buehler, Glasnow, Miller, Gonsolin, Paxton, May, and eventually Ohtani. You still need more?
That’s dedication right there.
B-rocker
Gonsolin is on the IL for all of ‘24. May is out until mid season. Shohei won’t pitch until ‘25. Yes they can use another starter.
Americanentropy
and the promising Frasso is out too.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Buehler will start the season late and if they sign Kershaw, he will also start the season late.
Blackpink in the area
Only 4 of those guys will he healthy on opening day. And that includes Glasnow and Paxton who are both giant injury risks.
DroppedThirdStrike
Sheehan, Grove and Stone. With reinforcements coming at mid-season. Plenty to trade with if they need to.
filihok
Clof
“You have Yamamoto, Buehler, Glasnow, Miller, Gonsolin, Paxton, May, and eventually Ohtani. You still need more?”
I’m assuming they looked into these players before signing Paxton. When the rotation looked like
Yamamoto
Glasnow
Miller
Bühler (starting a bit late)
One of: Sheehan, Grove, Stone, Frasso, Knack, Hurt, Yarborough
And May’s uncertain return.
A lot of teams would be thrilled with that. Three Dodgers could afford a bit more security and high-end talent.
If Lux and Sheehan (or another of the young pitchers) would have moved the needle significantly on Burnes and Adames, I would have been thrilled.
D-Nice
Gonsolin, May, Ohtani and probably Paxton can’t be counted on, really. At least in 24. Sheehan and Stone will be getting starts I’m sure…..Unless they go in a deal for one of the guys mentioned.
filihok
D-N
Gonsolin and Ohtani are out for the year
May may return later in the year
Paxton will almost certainly pitch, will probably pitch well, but how much he’ll pitch is more of a question than with many pitchers.
FatChance65
This just in: Dodgers sign everybody and go 162-0.
its_happening
…and lose the NLCS.
User 2161944466
I’m really in to the PuppyBowl. Like really into it. This year is going to be epic.
I.M. Insane
Never seen it. Can a puppy punt?
This one belongs to the Reds
Don’t know, but I hear in bassetball, those hounds can really jump!
In nurse follars
From 1920 until 1964 the New York Yankees appeared in 29 World Series and won 20. The richest team was playing in America’s biggest city and acquired the best players money could buy. Nothing has changed except now there are more teams with money thanks to television.
I.M. Insane
Didn’t hurt that Arnold Johnson, owner of the Kansas City Athletics, was allowing the Yankees to acquire his best players on the cheap.
User 2161944466
From 1971-1979 All in the Family dominated the airwaves with Archie Bunker portraying a lovable, working class man.
Prospectnvstr
JimmyCatfish: You gotta love Carrol O’Connor. He goes from bigoted Archie Bunker in “All in the family” to Chief of police Bill Gillespie in (racially charged) Sparta Mississippi in “In the heat of the night”. In the latter, he was romantically involved in a “mixed relationship”.
BabeRuthsPiano
It is a way more level playing field now and it’s better for baseball. The Red Sox have one 4 WS titles since 04 compared to the Yankees 1 . So on the grander Scheme of things they have been more successful in the last 20 Years
D-Nice
Hard to believe that Boston is turning into a small market team. They are though. They’re just not doing the fire sale part…..yet. They might if they have a bad season though.
citizen
yeah and braves still beat them in 1957.
Yanks2
I get this isn’t a Yankee article but I’m a Yankee fan and I had a trade proposal
Nestor Cortes and Gleyber Torres for Shane Bieber
Who says no?
Liberalsteve
Shane said he doesn’t want to play in NY and wants to win the right way
Yanks2
When did he say that
Chrome 8550
Plus he have shave his beard. He also has a high class wife that a model. Hello California.
LonnieB
Cute Pomeranian that’s a legit trade other than guardians want control and cheap. Neither are that.
LonnieB
Both of them are getting more expensive
Yanks2
Cortes is cheap
LonnieB
Kinda but not for long.
Yanks2
He’s a one hit wonder and I say that even as a Yankee fan. Everyone thinks he’s great but outside of one stellar season and a unique windup, he’s mediocre
Chrome 8550
Guardians don’t need Torres. Got a 1,000 infielders and one in the top mlb 100 list rochicco.
its_happening
Cleveland. They’ll want cheaper, controllable contract players.
Blackpink in the area
It is February 4th and 15 of mlbtrs top 50 free agents are still available.
What on earth have these players and agents been doing the last 3 months?
B-rocker
Waiting for Boros
Blackpink in the area
It’s not just Boras. He has 5 of the top 6 guys left but none of the other guys on the list.
This is ridiculous. Spring training is about to start.
Liberalsteve
overplaying their worth
JoeBrady
A fair number are not exactly in high demand.
citizen
Dodgers can add all the pieces and parts but should really sign a better manager.
THEY LIVE!!!
Could not agree more …
Roberts will lose win it matters most.
Citizen1
Dodgers thought mattingly was the problem they can’t win the big one. Still not solved .
LonnieB
They should have signed Ron Wash.
BlueSkies_LA
You mean someone who isn’t joined at the hip with Friedman?
Ha. Like that’s going to happen.
Liberalsteve
I bet 10,000 on them finishing under 104 wins
highflyballintorightfield
If other teams don’t step up, I could see the Dodgers signing Ryu or/and Lorenzen to an above-market one-year deal like they did Paxton.
Citizen1
Some team also unfortunately stepped up and signed Carlos rodon. Ryu – 1 year good, other year injured.
Old York
If the player is determined by both sides, the Dodgers could defer the trade to 2035.
Mickey Solis
These greedy pigs simply won’t stop will they? They are beyond pathetic and at this point the only thing sadder are their phony bandwagon fans.
B-rocker
Must be tough looking up from the bottom of the pile of also rans.
Candlestoked
It’s no fun to hate the Doyers now that everyone has piled on the bandwagon!
Citizen1
I’m annoyed hosted stats no longer reports scores or articles
Moneyballer
If the dodgers could not swing a deal for either starter, the price of each must be enormous. And they should be, cleveland and miami are not in rebuilds so prospect hauls aren’t gonna get it done. They probably want polished athletes ready to help the big club in short order. Twins should deal a young hitter for Luzardo similar to the Pablo Lopez deal. Would the Marlins want a Brooks Lee / Eduard Julien type player!? Royce is a non starter, he’s going nowhere!
MARLIN POWER 18
@Moneyballer
Luzardo for Brooks Lee and Alex Kirilloff should get it done. Twins can afford that.
Old York
Can’t wait for the Dodgers to win 162 games and still get knocked out of the first playoff series.
B-rocker
Surprised a Giants fan can even spell playoffs. You certainly won’t participate in them.
Old York
@B-rocker
Are you talking about a Yomiuri Giants fan? They last won the championship in 2012 and were in the playoffs in 2021. I’d say they can spell playoffs.
thickiedon
Reds chose Montas over Bieber lol
MLBTR needs to hire editors
Nick Deeds is straight up incompetent. “Important as Luzardo may be to Miami’s rotation entering 2024” and “talented as that group of five is” are NOT PROPER ENGLISH. The word “as” to start each sentence is not optional. Fire this kid—he doesn’t understand basic grammar.
HatlessPete
Well, if we’re going to nitpick, I think you’re missing a hyphen in that usage of “straight-up” old hoss! Important as clear, grammatically coherent syntax is to delivering information, I think your bugaboo here is very debatable, Mr. Grammar Policeman.the missing as doesn’t distort information or hinder the delivery of the point and may easily be inferred by the reader. In short, calm down fussy-pants! Syntax and sentence structure evolve over time and this approach is perfectly functional and acceptable regardless of how much it gets your knickers in a twist.
MLBTR needs to hire editors
It’s not proper grammar. Try this with an English teacher.
HatlessPete
How long has it been since you’ve taught or taken an English class? I have a BA and a MA in English, have worked as a writing tutor and I think your criticism is way overblown here. In this context, a more casual and conversational writing style is perfectly reasonable and appropriate. Also, it’s really not accurate to say that there is universal consensus on every grammatical “rule.” See for example the ongoing schism on the Oxford comma lol
MLBTR needs to hire editors
I am a PhD student in journalism. I’ve English at the college level as recently as 2022. “Conversational writing” isn’t for publicarions. In its glory days, you wouldn’t have seen such things in SI.
Those who think the Oxford comma isn’t worth using aren’t worth my time.
HatlessPete
Lol OK. So according to your preferences and biases, a great sin has occurred here. The style expectations of a given publication are specific to that publication. The old days at SI have no bearing on present day MLBTR’S editorial and house style standards. Hopefully you will come to the understanding that your personal taste and interpretation don’t necessarily rise to the level of objective truth. In time you too may relax your Oxford comma supremacist philosophy, unclench a little bit, and embrace the dynamic evolution and flexibility of the english language lol
MLBTR needs to hire editors
SI was for many years the gold standard of sports journalism. It’s a shame you can’t respect that. But by your appraisal, someone’s house style is beyond reproach. There is still right and wrong here. But please, continue weakening your point by attacking me, I enjoy seeing your credibility shrink. I’m waiting for you to expound on the unclenching bit. I can only imagine how much you want to unload!
HatlessPete
This exchange is starting to remind me of the old saying about wrestling a pig. You both end up covered in mud but the pig actually enjoys it.
Clearly you’re going to stick to your guns and insist that your opinions about writing style are the one truth. Come to think of it, I only felt inclined to get into this with you because you came in here with the attitude that your pedantic angst about the author’s syntax and style meant he deserved to be fired which is really extra for grammar snobbery. Doesn’t really seem like anyone other than you cares though. Take care now. It’s been mildly diverting to poke at your next level snobbery for a bit. Enjoy your smug belief in your grammatical superiority there lol.
MLBTR needs to hire editors
This author has been making the same mistakes for years and years. When there are numerous other (likely more) qualified writers out there who both know baseball AND respect the English language, this author doesn’t deserve a job.
The grammatical issue is not “my opinion:” it’s an accepted convention of the language. It’s not up for interpretation, as much as you want it to be. Or through as many ways as you want to use it to insult me, like saying I have “pedantic angst” or I’m “smug.” Rules are rules.
But kudos to you for taking the L here. It’s indicative of the right-bent, nationwide disdain for knowledge and expertise that you would call basic rules of English grammar “snobbery.” Perhaps next time you will avoid getting into a position where you lose the argument because you can’t argue the point logically, not to mention that your side is the incorrect one.
Goose
It is safe to say the asking price on Luzardo, Bieber and Cease must be up there. They have been tied to multiple big market teams and not one got too far into banter. I know the White Sox and Marlins both demanded Bello and another top prospect or young guy.. I am assuming it had to be someone like Miller from the Dodgers.