The Yankees’ rotation has gotten a boost, as the club has announced that they have signed veteran righty Marcus Stroman. It’s a two-year deal with a conditional player option for 2026 that reportedly comes with a $37MM guarantee. The 2026 vesting option would become an $18MM player option if he reaches 140 innings in 2025. Stroman is represented by Roc Nation Sports.
Stroman, 33 in May, was a first-round pick by the Blue Jays in the 2012 draft. A fast riser to the big leagues, the right-hander made is debut in 2014 and performed well in his rookie season with a 3.65 ERA and 2.84 FIP in 130 2/3 innings of work. Though Stroman was limited to just four starts in his sophomore season by a torn ACL, the righty established himself as a fixture in Toronto’s rotation in the following years.
By the time the club shipped him to the Mets in a deal at the 2019 trade deadline, Stroman had compiled a solid 3.76 ERA and 3.60 FIP across 135 appearances (129 starts) in a Blue Jays uniform. The right-hander’s tenure in New York was somewhat shortened by him opting out of the shortened 2020 campaign, but Stroman pitched well when on the mound for the Mets, including a 3.02 ERA and 3.49 FIP across a league-leading 33 starts during the 2021 season.
Having accepted a qualifying offer to return to the Mets in 2021, Stroman entered the 2021-22 offseason as an unrestricted free agent and found a new team quickly, agreeing to a three-year deal with the Cubs just before the players were locked out in early December. Stroman pitched solidly in his first season as a Cub, with a 3.50 ERA and 3.76 FIP across 138 2/3 innings of work. Entering the 2023 campaign, it appeared the righty had taken a step forward at the age of 32 as he pitched to an incredible 2.28 ERA with a 3.33 FIP in 98 2/3 innings of work across the first 16 starts of his season.
Unfortunately, things came apart from there as Stroman allowed a whopping 28 runs (24 earned) in just 27 innings across his next six starts before heading to the injured list with a hip issue. His stay on the shelf was extended by a rib cartilage fracture and by the time he returned to action in mid-September, the veteran righty was only able to muster eight middling innings of performance over his final four appearances in a Cubs uniform. Despite the rough second half, Stroman nonetheless finished the 2023 campaign with solid overall numbers, including a 3.95 ERA and 3.58 FIP in 136 2/3 innings of work.
Likely with his sights on a multiyear deal, Stroman opted of the final year and $21MM of his deal with the Cubs, returning to free agency. Stroman’s free agent market remained quiet for much of the offseason, though he was connected to the Royals before Kansas City ultimately opted to add right-handers Michael Wacha and Seth Lugo last month. The righty’s market reportedly picked up as the calendar flipped to 2024, with Heyman noting that the Red Sox, Orioles, Giants, and Angels were among the teams interested in the veteran’s services outside of the Bronx. Ultimately, Stroman’s contract matches well with the two-year, $44MM prediction MLBTR made back on November 6th.
Now, Stroman is set to return to New York to pitch on the other side of the Subway Series. The right-hander adds some veteran stability to the club’s rotation behind ace Gerrit Cole after southpaws Nestor Cortes and Carlos Rodon both produced uneven, injury-marred campaigns in 2023. As things stand, right-handed youngster Clarke Schmidt figures to round out the club’s starting quintet after producing solid back-end results across 33 appearances (32 starts) with the Yankees last year.
While Stroman has never been much of a strikeout artist, typically punching out around 20% of batters faced in a given year, he sports a strong 6.9% walk rate for his career and has been extremely effective at keeping the ball on the ground across his ten years as a major league player. Stroman’s groundball rate has never dipped below 50% throughout his career, and his 57.1% grounder rate last year actually slightly surpasses his career mark of 56.7%. Only Logan Webb, Framber Valdez, and Dallas Keuchel have generated grounders at a higher clip than Stroman throughout their careers among active players, and only Webb walks fewer batters among that group. It’s a style of play that should work particularly well in Yankee stadium, which was the third-most homer friendly park in the majors last year according to Statcast.
The addition of Stroman takes the Yankees over the final $297MM luxury tax threshold, with RosterResource projecting the club for a luxury tax payroll of just under $306MM in 2024. Every dollar the Yankees spend beyond that $297MM threshold will be taxed at a whopping 110% rate, given the team’s status as a third-time payor in 2024. The club’s actual 2024 payroll is similarly high, sitting at just over $294MM. That will be the highest payroll in club history, according to Cot’s Baseball Contracts.
Adding a starting pitcher to the club’s rotation appeared to be the Yankees’ biggest need at this point in the offseason, so it’s possible the club is mostly done for the winter at this point. Recent reports have indicated the club has some level of interest in the likes of Blake Snell, Jordan Montgomery, Dylan Cease, Shane Bieber and Jesus Luzardo, including a report earlier today that the club had made an offer to Snell. All of that was prior to the club’s addition of Stroman, of course, though it’s at least feasible the club could look to add another starter to pair with Cole at the front of the rotation, likely pushing Schmidt into a swing role out of the bullpen.
Jon Heyman of the New York Post first reported that the sides were “making progress” on a deal. Mike Mayer of Metsmerized was first with the sides coming to an agreement. Bob Nightengale of USA Today first reported that the deal, which is pending a physical, is for two years with an option for a third. Joel Sherman of the New York Post first reported the deal’s average annual value of $18.5MM a season, while Heyman first added that the third year is a vesting option. Sherman reported further details on the option.
thegreatbambi3
Jon Heyman says… hmmmm … must be going back to the Cubs
acoss13
Well, Stroman is not a Boras client I believe could be wrong so this has some credibility. He’s still going to hustle Snell and Montgomery to the Yankees as much as possible those are Boras clients.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Stroman is not a Boras Client. His agent is Brodie Van Wagenen
Fever Pitch Guy
Log – Boras is not Stroman’s agent. I’m just very happy he’s signed with the Yankees, congrats!
YankeesBleacherCreature
Gio vs. Stro ’24, FPG! How do we set this friendly wager?
ws_champs
Are the Yankees avoiding Boras signings?
Joe says...
Right now it looks like Boras is avoiding Boras signings.
99CaptainJudge99
Fever- he definitely wasn’t the starter I was hoping for, I’ve been watching him pitch for the Cubbies, and couldn’t believe he opted out with them, and took less $ to be a Yankee. Going from $21 million to $18.5 million is even more shocking, he sounds just like a local kid from Long Island that wanted to come home. Hopefully he can behave himself now. We’ll see.
99CaptainJudge99
Yeah Joe expect a lot of these Boras clients to sign in early to mid February, for more $. Some things never change. It’s Boras just being Boras.
Fever Pitch Guy
YBC – What kind of wager?
Performance wise, I’m taking Stro … he will have the better ERA and WHIP.
Innings wise, I’m taking Gio, he will pitch more innings.
Flare-up wise, such as complaints and conflicts, definitely taking Stro.
Fever Pitch Guy
ws – I would love to see all the teams interested in Monty and Snell go and acquire someone else instead, leaving Boras with no suitors for either of them. Boras needs to be humbled. But I know teams would never unite like that, and even if they did it would be labeled “collusion”.
StudWinfield
He didn’t take less. He got $37 mill guaranteed vs $21 mill. At his age it matters. And if he pitches like a decent 3-4 he’ll get another 30-40 mill before he retires.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Stroman to Yankees.
Mr. LaForge, make it so.
runningwithnailclippers
Whenever anyone says “Mr.LaForge,” I automatically start humming the Reading Rainbow tune.
WiffleBall
Tsk task. It’s La Forge, not LaForge.
PinstripedPride
Heyman is not the only guy saying that Stroman has signed. I think it’s a done deal
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Contract info is posted
pino
Baaaaad mooove
geno711
How do you know? Seems about right for a pitcher that twice has been an Allstar but has had some bad stretches also.
Guy has a career 3.66 ERA. Projections at a 3.9 ERA this year.
He also gives rotational value of 180 innings pitched. Those inning eaters have value.
Seems like a better option than some other guys they have on the team this year.
1984wasntamanual
I wouldn’t pencil him in for 180 innings….
Rantucky
The way he finished the last half of the season I expect surgery in his near future.
GooseGoslinGuy
Lotta dough for injuries and inconsistency and aging.
Shadow_Banned
Boras and the Yankees are great business partners. Boris is a evil conniving swindler, and the Yankees are rich and dumb.
gbs42
Shadow, why is Boras an “evil, conniving swindler?” Because he generally gets the best deal possible for his clients?
Jaysfansince92
I’m not sure about the evil part, but swindler sounds about right. Some of the things he says to talk up his players are ridiculous and a lot of the deals teams sign with his players tend to blow up in the team’s face.
OIC2021
What the hell is wrong with Rob Manfred?
Shadow_Banned
@gbs because with other agents there’s compromise. With Boras he HAS to get the maximum deal or it’s a no deal. He’s a B.astard.
The Yankees either sign guys with health issues or mental health issues in the case of Soto.
TrumboRedux
What about Soto and mental health??
Shadow_Banned
Soto: Megalomania, Narcissistic personality disorder.
Severino: Severely Injured
Stanton: Always injured
Nestor: Taco belly, injured
I’m sure there’s other dudes on there
I.M. Insane
Taco Belly would make a great name for a band if it isn’t one already.
Yanksfan1030
Severino isn’t even a Yankee anymore.
gbs42
Shadow, none of us know what really goes on in negotiations between any teams and agents. Boras is outspoken and pretty much the only agent most people know.
gbs42
Shadow, what’s your evidence of Soto’s megalomania and narcissism?
WiffleBall
Buddy you’re the only one in the discussion with mental health issues. Seek help for your aggression disorder and psychotic breaks. You might hurt someone — or yourself — if you haven’t already.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Jeds not done yet, who you gonna believe, Jedi or some “rumors” site?
Saint Nick
Lol
uvmfiji
If Cash thinks Sonny Gray can’t cut it in the Bronx, there’s no way he thinks Stroman can.
melfman1
There is irrefutable evidence that Gray couldn’t hack it in New York. He shrunk under the bright lights.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Or he was a bad match with their pitching coach. Either way, neither side wanted a reunion.
Domingo111
I like the Deal. It is only 2 years and while stroman doesn’t have the best stuff he is kind of a reliable guy who will give you innings for the most part.
Even if he gives you a 4.2 era over 160 innings he could win a lot of games with the Yankees offense (assuming better health of roster than last year).
PattheBat
‘Irrefutable’ lol
gbs42
melf,
If you have a subscription to The Athletic, I recommend you read this. It talks about the bad fit between Gray and the Yankees’ pitching philosophy.
theathletic.com/850202/2019/03/05/sarris-tracking-…
melfman1
Read it, it was a good article.
But in my opinion, ultimately it was Gray throwing the pitches. If he disagreed with the team philosophy, he should have pitched his way and shown them the improved results. Sometimes you have to ignore other people’s advice, if you know that it won’t work for you.
HankAaronDidGreenies
“Shut up and ball”
*goes against the coach*
“No not like that!”
Murphy NFLD
He said so him self in am interview with bauer when they were both reds. Its on YT he said the media was espically too much and then you laser focus on you faults and if u have 2 kr 3 bad 1s in a row you feel like u will be that way for ever
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
It was one season too so not much data.
rct
“If Cash thinks Sonny Gray can’t cut it in the Bronx, there’s no way he thinks Stroman can.”
He was very good for the Mets in the exact same city. I have no idea how someone can make this statement when he already had success in NYC.
AIMLB
Sonny Gray learned a devastating slider in 2019, he didn’t have it with the Yankees. The Yankees wished they had SOnny with that slider now.
The Astros didn’t want Musgrove in 2017, Musgrove learned a devastating slider in 2018 with Pirates. The Astros wished they had Musgrove with that devastating slider.
BrianStrowman9
But was it the Roger Beshens football slider?!!?
Jaysfansince92
While I’m not a big fan of Stroman anymore due to some of the things he’s done, he’s never been one to shrink from the spotlight. I don’t see any reason why he would play poorly in New York. He already played for the Mets and did well there. I realize there is more pressure with the Yankees, but Stroman thrives on chaos.
marrtho
Stroman also posted a picture of him in a Yankees on Instagram.
tpaine69
And now his instagram has 0 posts. Weird.
marrtho
It’s on his story
PinstripedPride
I saw that too. Had to do a double take to make sure I wasn’t on a spoof account.
Yankee Clipper
I read that recently Stroman deleted all of his past comments, which was probably a smart move knowing he wanted to sign with the Yankees. I’m sure the media (and probably Yankees fans) we’re digging to find his anti-Yankees comments from 2019 & 2020 when they discovered it was gone.
If he learns one thing from Donaldson: don’t be a jack wagon.
giantboy99
Hope this DOESN’T come to fruition.
acoss13
I had Stroman going to the Giants in the free agent contest.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I thought he would go back to Cubs for one year at $21 million, the exact amount that he opted out of.
avenger65
I think there were some hard feelings between Stroman and the cubs because he wanted an extension to stay with them but Hoyer wouldn’t give it to him.
padam
Same with the Mets. Ultimately, he manages to wear out his welcome wherever he goes.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
True, but business is business, that goes for both sides, a couple million sooths hard feelings real fast
northsidecrossrifles
He’d be a better fit in SF. The sandbox where he’ll pitch in NY is going to eat him up. I’ll take the unknown Shota Im over Stro at this point.
Killer of Ignorance
Oh, c’mon. Shota was known for giving up long balls over in Japan which is why the Yankees didn’t want him. If he was giving up jacks at an alarming pace to less powerful hitters over in Japan we’ll see how he does against the best, most powerful hitters in the world in MLB Bad mouthing Stroman is just your Yankee hatred resurfacing once again. Stroman has proven he can be a very effective pitcher in MLB. Shoto , well, he is totally unproven in the US I’ll take Strohman at this point More will be revealed
northsidecrossrifles
Shota was also their top strikeout artist, and gave up the least amount of walks, while his stuff+ rating at the WBC was better than any other pitcher, to include Ohtani, Yammamoto, Sandy Alcantara. Ignoring all of that while solely focusing on longballs is a dishonest take.
Sure, the longballs aren’t ideal. However, do you really think Marcus Stroman is a better signing? A guy whose been on and off the DL for 2 years, and was one of the worst pitchers in baseball in the 2nd half.
HatlessPete
I had Yamamoto to the yanks and stroman to the dodgers lol
rememberthecoop
It’s happening. Believe it.
Tyson’s Pet Tiger
he posted ‘i’m a new york yankee’ on his ig story
Dumpster Divin Theo
Fruiti von tuti
ohyeadam
Ground ball pitcher in a home run ballpark with a gold glove SS. What’s not to like?
TrumboRedux
Yikes…There’s still other good starters out there…Yanks can’t be desperate enough to try and sign Stroman yet..
TrumboRedux
Ok…I guess he is a Yankee now…Hope he works out for you guys…Godspeed..
acoss13
His health was an issue, and it’s two years so it’s not super horrible for the Yankees if he’s not healthy. Also Stroman did really want to be a Yankee so I guess he’d be motivated to do his best to stay healthy to finally wear those pinstripes lol
If he gives them 25 productive starts it’s a win for the Yankees.
TrumboRedux
As long as it’s merely health issues…For a moment I was thinking the guy had an “attitude” issue as well.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
My opinion: He has a good “attitude” but a big “mouth”
He also has a big ego, which is not always a bad thing for a sports star
If he wins, few will mind, if he does poorly, he will be villified quick
TrumboRedux
Darnit Manny that is what “attitude” IS! Haha
Yankee Clipper
Manny, it’s a good point. I mean, look at Reggie, and we love him. He’s attitude embodied in human form.
Stroman will be absolutely loved by Yankees fans as long as he performs well and doesn’t go to social media. Yankees fans are a finicky bunch, but we have very, very long memories.
That said, he comes out firing on the mound and all that attitude is going to juice up the fanbase. I think this move failing will have more to do with Cashman and less to do with Stroman. Kind of like the IKF-fan relationship debacle.
Cashman can set Stroman and the Yankees up for success by getting another good arm. Or he can sell the fans extremely high on Stroman, talking about how he’s an ace-like pitcher, and as such, they don’t feel the need to make any other moves. That can (and probably will) backfire. It happens annually with Cashman & Boone.
Not necessarily Stroman’s fault, but it will be taken out on him as a result.
64' Yanks
He’ll be on the DL after the first month of the season like the other twenty ball players.
filihok
YC
“Cashman can set Stroman and the Yankees up for success by getting another good arm. Or he can sell the fans extremely high on Stroman, talking about how he’s an ace-like pitcher, and as such, they don’t feel the need to make any other moves. That can (and probably will) backfire. It happens annually with Cashman & Boone.”
Not a very flattering portrait of Yankee fans
Saying that they aren’t capable of setting reasonable expectations on their own and need to be bottle fed and manipulated.
They sound just like most other unknowledgeable people.
Yankee Clipper
Well, I can see why you’d take it that way. Honestly, I think it reads better to Yankees fans. I put it in context with what happened with IKF. It’s that the fans are told they aren’t doing anything additional because this guy is all we need; but then it fails, much like fans said it would, and the Yankees talk about how it couldn’t have been predicted.
It’s why the fanbase constantly talks about Cashman and Boone gaslighting. So, if I were to sum it up, it’s more about their anger toward the FO for failing to see the obvious, rather than truly believing Brian Cashman’s nonsense.
Hope that way makes more sense.
Jaysfansince92
Poor IKF. He’s out-of the frying pan and into the fire. First he is attached to the Donaldson deal and gets bad feelings attached to him in NY and now he goes to Toronto and has become the poster boy of the so far failed offseason. Really hope Atkins has at least one more big move in him (might take 2) or IKF is once again going to have an uphill battle winning over the fans through no fault of his own.
Yankee Clipper
I hope not Jaysfan; that dude is a great team player, a hustler, and has a great attitude. I know he takes it personally, we all would. I would’ve loved to have him back in a bench role.
Jaysfansince92
Unfortunately there were a lot of reports about the Jays swimming in the deep end of the FA pool and them wanting to “do something really big this offseason” so the fans all got their hopes up.
Atkins had made a point of saying that they had a lot of irons in the fire and that if their primary targets went elsewhere they would pivot quickly to other good options. Everyone thought after Ohtani that they would at least sign Bellinger and Chapman or make a trade for a star player or 2, but so far nothing.
A lot of fans were very upset with the IKF signing right after they re-signed KK. The biggest need they had was offense and so far all they have brought in is 2 defensive specialists with poor career hitting numbers. KK was a fan favourite last year so most of the discontent has unfortunately been aimed at IKF.
A common refrain among Jays fans has been: we are losing Merrifield, Chapman, our highest OPS hitter Belt, Ryu, and Hicks and all the jays have done to replace them is bring in IKF.
Atkins needs to do IKF a solid and get a couple bats. He seems like a nice guy and doesn’t deserve the negativity that would come with him being the only new addition.
Yankee Clipper
Exactly Jays! I think several commenters misunderstand my comments regarding Stroman to imply our fanbase is stupid, or that we are gullible. But, it’s more about how the FO creates more problems by trying to promise what they can’t deliver.
They would be better off ripping the bandaid off and saying, “we are limited in what we can spend this offseason and we don’t plan to add big, expensive FAs.”
Yes, the fanbase will be upset, and rightfully so, but it’s better than giving that false hope.
I wish you guys luck in pursuing some of those bats. Seems like there are still some decent options on the market that could help out.
NYG4246
IKF is a good ball player, for what he is, a contact hitting utility man. The NY media beat him up as if he was a perennial all-star before he got here that didn’t move off his gold glove winning position to fill a hole at SS.
The expectations for him were absurd considering he was a career 265 hitter who averaged 4 HR a year.
Good ball player, played hard, hustled, never complained. Best suited to be a role player.
YankeesBleacherCreature
@NYG Those writers are still in search of the next Derek Jeter. It wasn’t Didi Gregorius, not Gleyber Torres, not IKF, and most likely not Anthony Volpe.
Murphy NFLD
Yea ove been screaming feom the roof tops to trade for either nick Castalonos or Eloy Jimenez as the DH. Philly would likly pay down 10-15M of Nick and they need a starting OF, and i want them to give there 3-4 young rookies every chance to win the 3b job. Barger plays 3b/SS/RF, Martinez is a 3b/2b/SS and Dam palmegiani is a guy who plays 3rd but all corners and is a legit bat but bat first type. Then they absolutely no questions asking HAVE to bring in a 4th OF platoon type RHH who smashes LHP and who can play 100 games if injuries come up. Rameriz the rays have up fits thay mold but Duval or grossman fit that mold well aslo. Problem is Atkins said likly 1 bat LHH OF/DH type. Well we have 2 LHH everyday OFs now and with Biggio you can have 3 NP, plus guys like barger and other could make the team.
Yankee Clipper
Murphy: Do you feel like Soler would be a good fit? From my outsider’s perspective it feels like he fits your criteria, but you all may feel a bit different regarding Jorge.
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Jaysfansince92
I feel like they could certainly do worse than Soler. If he can stay healthy he would certainly help the lineup.
Dumpster Divin Theo
But that’s part and parcel of what makes Stro special, he’s got leadership skills. He doesn’t just “go to” social media. His social media presence is very important to him. Dont see a problem with that as a fan as long as he performs, aren’t athletes allowed to have causes and issues they speak out on?
filihok
Re DDT
“aren’t athletes allowed to have causes and issues they speak out on?”
They should
However some people seem to think that certain type of athlete should just “shut up and [play]”.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, DDT, I should’ve clarified (if your response was to my post), that certain actions on social media should be avoided. I wasn’t referring to his stances against racism, I was referring to when he supported anti-Semitic posts. NY has a very large Jewish population.
So, like any athlete, being judicious about what he writes or supports will make his stay in NY much better. Plus the NYY don’t like their guys attacking other teams/players online, which he has also done (to the Yankees, and he was correct in what he said, imho).
Dumpster Divin Theo
Aha. Wasn’t aware of that. Thanks for clarifying. I thought you were referring to his trolling the Yankees as a Met
Yankee Clipper
I’ll add something: I just found out that the story of the Yankees telling Stroman they were not interested in him at all is true. Apparently, Stroman then requested a sit-down with Cashman himself and discussed his wanting to be a Yankee. After the meeting, Cashman was so impressed that he made the deal with Stroman. It is also being reported that Stroman knew he was taking less than he could’ve made, but did want to play for the Yankees.
My respect for him has grown exponentially in the past 24 hours. It takes a very mature person to request a face-to-face with the GM that said you weren’t a difference-maker, and also said he has no interest in you. Stroman has obviously matured quite a bit. I’m honestly impressed because you don’t often hear about these things.
Dumpster Divin Theo
The backstory about him trolling the Yankees: reportedly he wanted to be a Yankee from the gitgo as a native New Yorker and then channeled that into fuel when it was the Mets, not the Yankees who wanted him. But deep down, he’s always been a Yankee fan. Thinking he’s got exactly the type of in your face, I am who I am personality needed to succeed in the Bronx. Doesn’t hurt being a cross section of NY with his mixed African-Anerican, Puerto Rican heritage. Engaging with fans directly on social media can lead to burnout, but Marcus seems to revel in that
rememberthecoop
But he’s a heck of a lot cheaper than the Big Two (Snell & Monty).
TrumboRedux
Coop, the Big Two are Bauer and Urias!
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Urias is probably looking at a one year suspension. They have dropped all felony charges and he will probably get diversion on misdemeanor charges. But it is his second domestic violence incident. I think Urias will be available at the start of 2025 and someone will take a chance on him. His arm may use the rest if his brain can catch up to his body that would help, too.
Wrian Washman
If it comes with Snell it makes sense. If it doesn’t yikes…
just_thinkin
Stroman and Snell? Or Stroman because no Snell?
Yankee Clipper
Since the two sides were “far apart” on a Snell deal, this is prototypical Brian Cashman: finding the best “value deal” instead of the best player for the Yankees. It will likely fail spectacularly.
TrumboRedux
He could also stun everyone and kick @$$ Clip. If the Halo’s somehow ended up with this guy, I wouldn’t like it, not one bit, but I would still pray for results. I know you are of course. But don’t let anyone kill your buzz with this guy. I would bet the Yanks will grab another arm still. They are still 10x more put together than the Halo’s. Not that I should compare the Yanks to such turdry.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Hi Clipper.
I think this is a coin flip, 50% he will do very well and 50% he will fall hard, let’s see if he is healthy.
luclusciano
With either one of them – or both – the Yankees still need bullpen for 5-6 inning pitchers that hopefully can make 20+starts
DR2020
All I can say, is you nailed it. he would think Cashman would learn, after all these years, but he never does, he’s too smug, and set in his ways. and you would think it’s his money, or something.
Juggy
They are still in on Snell
Balk
Take him!! Quick…so the Giants don’t! Haha
Yankee Clipper
Don’t blame you, Balk. This is going to be a terrible acquisition, imho, to the surprise of nobody outside the Yankees organization.
Balk
With Montgomery waiting probably on the Rangers, and Snells asking price for the amount of walks, what other arms are out there other then trades? I’m kinda baffled by the Giants…maybe hoping these young kids shine I guess. I was hoping the Giants could pull Monty over. I think he’d be a good fit in that ballpark.
oldgfan
I’m thinking Robby Ray was it for pitchers. They have enough young arms to get them through until Cobb and Ray are ready. The young guys can be optioned, another free agent not so much.
Balk
Oldgfan…I kinda want to see what these youngsters can do. Not long ago, the Giants developed Madbum, Cain, The Freak. Would be nice to see some home grown talent. I think the Giants may be high on Belli and or Chapman. Maybe Hoskins?
oldgfan
I’m thinking they go hard after Bellinger. Chapman I don’t see the need. Hoskins would be nice though.
If they do go after another arm I don’t think it will be anything long term, so that narrows the field down to guy’s not much better than what rooks can produce.
oldgfan
What do you call Robby Ray ?
Balk
Well that’s that? Haha. I guess you can only hope for the best with him. As soon as I posted the last comment it switched to him being signed!
RynoScoobs
I don’t think so. 18 million for two years is a bargain going by what other pitchers are getting this offseason. I’d be happy to slide him into the rotation. People are going to get hurt.
I think/hope we are still going to sign Snell. They were only off by one year. Here’s hoping…
Balk
I can somewhat agree, but still skeptical about how he plays in that ballpark. Only time will tell. Definitely a good price though.
Joel P
Stroman is a bozo but he wants to play in New York. And 2 years 37 million? Heck of a deal.
SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs
Over/under 1.5 shots at the Mets during the presser
Jayme
Easy money on the over!
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Over/under 12 wins in 2024, I take over
Baseball Purist
Under
Spaced-Cowboy
Push. 12 wins on the dot.
For Love of the Game
That’s the juice for the house at 12 wins.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I agree 12 is the right answer, maybe if I was Vegas I should have set it at 11.5
Spaced-Cowboy
Don’t ever feel bad for being on point 😉
TrumboRedux
LOL!
Yankee Clipper
Wow, for a second you really put my brain power to the test; until I realized it was 1.5 and not 15. Easy over.
Manny, boy do I ever hope you’re right. That would be a blessing like the Yankees haven’t seen in a long time. BUT, with Brian Cashman and crew steering the ship, I assume it will fail.
Spaced-Cowboy
Everything is a failure until it succeeds.
Yankee Clipper
True, hopefully this is one of those times because Judge, Cole aren’t getting any younger and Soto is only here for a year.
bernbabybern
Noooooooooooooooo
jasonr
Stroman posted a story of him as a kid in Yanks sweatshirt with his dad(?) and then a mock up of him pitching in pinstripes.
padam
Meanwhile he said he was a Mets fan growing up. Go figure.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Stroman posted on his IG of him in a Yankees uniform. He has since deleted everything on his IG hahaha
angryyankeesfan1
Passan said it’s done
Yankee Clipper
That’s as good as good in my opinion. Passan is very rarely wrong.
davidk1979
calltothepen.com/2022/10/30/chicago-cubs-marcus-st…
baseballteam
Yes Yankees sign him!!! Oh the drama…
WillieBeamon
Stroman, Hader, and Jordan Hicks. Let’s wrap it up.
Wire to wire 2024
That would make a nice end to the offseason
CravenMoorehead
Not gonna lie, I like this signing. He’s from the tri-state area so it isn’t like he is going to be intimidated by playing in NYC.
Yankee Clipper
If I recall correctly his dad was NYPD also, and the Yankees have a very close relationship with that organization.
I believe that he probably wanted to play for the Yankees, and when they didn’t pursue him, he lashed out.
I’m more worried about what his acquisition means for the rest of Cashman’s offseason plans. I assume he will default to, “we are going to see what our needs are at the trade deadline and reassess.”
CravenMoorehead
Definitely need Jordan Hicks or Hader
Yankee Clipper
Hey, at least Stroman’s #0 is available! Thanks, Domingo.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Another one they can have. At this point, as a Sox fan, I’d be happy with Montgomery or Clevinger but this guy has been a headcase and I don’t trust Snell.
But if the Yankees get Snell and Stroman, fine by me.
Poolhalljunkies
Dont most red sox fans want montgomery?…if the sox sign him id think youd be ecstatic..
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I don’t think we will. They’re not spending money, but he would be a good addition at the right price.
smkelly1970
Montgomery or Clevinger? pfft!
that would mean spending money- they blew their wad with Giolito.
Giolito and ??? and pray for rain!!!
hell.. just pray for rain and move on to 2025.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Monty will cost a lot but I don’t think Clevinger will be that bad. He looks like a more likable target because I doubt Sox pay Monty.
dasit
as a yankee fan i’m triggered by any name starting with “stro”
TrumboRedux
Rightly so..
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Not catching the reference… Castro maybe?
TrumboRedux
“Maestro” actually…That new Bradley Cooper movie is really effing with peoples heads…
JPR
Ass-stro
Yankee Clipper
Man, this is going to be a colossal failure, imo. I hope not, but this SCREAMS Cashman-analytical value move. It’s exactly what has gotten them into their perpetual WC-exit cycle for almost twenty years.
I should add, I’m not nearly as opposed to this if Cashman makes another good pitching acquisition. But this is the type of move he makes when he feels the other players are too expensive.
Stroman’s AAV is lower than what I thought it would be though, which is why Cashman couldn’t refuse.
Joel P
Man this is a solid number 2 starter here. I really don’t like Stroman but gosh from a value perspective this is one of the best signings of the offseason.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, that’s true Joel. In a vacuum this is an excellent acquisition for the money. I kind of pieced together my whole thought about this in Separate comments, which is a mistake because it gives the wrong impression.
Stroman for &18MM AAV is surprisingly good value in this market. In the context of Cashman building this roster and telling Yankees fans that Stroman is all we need…..it always goes sideways. And Yankees fans haven’t forgotten the 2019 & 2020 comments from him dogging the organization.
Now, I think it was stupid of him to do with an approaching FA, but he was actually correct with his take, for the most part. He called the Yankees (really Brian Cashman) out for failing to build a proper rotation (sound familiar?). Then he called them out for burning out the bullpen by trying to make up for it. He was right. But that pissed Yankees fans off. As long as he maintains composure (like Stanton) but performs well, he should be fine.
Joel P
Stroman wanted to play in New York regardless of any comments he might have made in the past. I think that’s evident by the contract he signed. The Red Sox are paying Giolito more money plus Giolito has an opt out. This is a better contract for a better pitcher.
I think Stroman is an idiot for sure. But geez this looks like a good contract.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I don’t know if you supported Giolito or not, but he had just as much WAR as Stroman in 2023 for a similar price.
bullred
Lol! I knew that was coming!
1984wasntamanual
…if he is and remains healthy.
Mickey777
Clipper,
Rather have Stroman, Hader, and Woodruff than Snell. Money would end up being about the same.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, agreed Mickey. IF (big if) Cashman makes additional moves like that? Yeah, that’s good. I just assume he will pin all hopes on an aging Stroman and try to gaslight the fanbase again if Stroman can’t meet those expectations.
Mickey777
I agree it’s a big if. The offer they made today to Snell, was obviously a ploy to put pressure on Stroman to sign at a very good price for them. Regardless of how this deal turns out the Yankees got a deal financially. I believe Trade Rumors predicted that Stroman would get 2 years for 44 million. They got Stroman for 37 million for 2 years. The vested option is also to their advantage, if he throws that many innings in 2025, they get another bargain for 2026. Really hope they sign Josh Hader! Like Holmes but would you trust him against Seager, or Yordan Alvarez in a playoff game?
Yankee Clipper
No, I wouldn’t trust that. Holmes is good when he’s on but he’s had semi-long periods of being off. We need someone who we can confidently throw out there in October without worrying which if it’s a good or bad day. We had enough of that with Chapman.
DR2020
I am sure you are correct. and further, I hope Stroman does not have a meltdown or several, that will not end well.
1984wasntamanual
It seems more like they made an offer to Snell, it actually was really far from what Snell wanted, Yankees realized they weren’t going to get a deal done that they felt comfortable with and then moved on to their next target.
With the caveat that we don’t actually know what Snell is asking for, I really wouldn’t be surprised if this happens multiple times. It seems like there could be a really big gap between how Snell/Boras value him and how teams value him.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, I’ve heard through the Yankees podcasters that it was in the area of 5/$150MM. No way Boras is recommending that deal to Snell. If it’s around that price point, Snell would be a great acquisition.
'Tang It
Am I way off base?…I feel like stroman criticized the Yankees a few years back. He’s such a punk. Perfect fit with verdugo. That clubhouse will implode.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
He criticizes everyone. He’s a complete headcase and while he has above average stats, he’s 33, not getting younger and only pitched 140 innings the last two seasons.
padrepapi
I dunno, I thought it was pretty funny when he did the Soto shuffle after striking him out.
1984wasntamanual
There is nothing wrong with this as long as the pitcher doesn’t get upset at the hitter for then pimpin his hrs.
It seems the issue with Stroman is more off the field than on, personality wise.
I personally don’t care much if the players on the team I root for are dbags as long as they aren’t negatively impacting the team, but I was happy to see Stroman opt out because he’s been dealing with injuries and isn’t getting younger.
soxshortstop
Wait…..Chaim Breslow and John Henry are still “interested”…
King Floch
Chris Getz:
*sweating intensifies*
acoss13
Chris Getz isn’t losing his job anytime soon. That would imply Jerry would want to actually do some real work and look outside the organization for executives.
King Floch
I just meant that his pool of potential trade partners for Cease is getting smaller and less desperate.
28rings
I was hoping ass-tro man would go to the Astros – now we have someone to boo now that Donaldson is gone
Yanks2
The one positive thing I can say about the Stroman signing is no one will ever be hated on the Yankees as much as Donaldson
28rings
Jack McDowell, Ed Whitson, Ken Phelps
CaseyAbell
That’s probably one less team that Boras can use in a bidding war for Snell. Probably means one less team interested in Montgomery, too. The Yanks are keeping the contract pretty short, though. The Rodon fiasco seems to have soured them on longer term deals for hurlers.
Rsox
Very few long term deals every work out over the long haul, especially with Pitchers. They lucked out with Sabathia all those years ago and even he was a 5th starter by the end of it. It will be interesting to see what they do if/when Cole exercises his opt-out after next season
Anthony maresca
Yankees control Cole as he does not have a free agent opt out with Yankees holding that right to just add another yr at $36 million which is a bargain. Cole only going to exercise that opt out if he has another great season cause even a mediocre season they will let him walk should he be foolish to walk away from 4/144 remaining trying to gain an extra $36 million. They could pivot towards Corbin Burns who will only be 30 as a free agent. Yankees would easily offer a proven ace similar 9/320 deal Cole got at same age and a far safer bet than Yamamoto 10/325 deal
Rsox
How many proven aces are out there to offer that money to?
swanhenge
Fine pitcher. Pretty much avoided drama in CHI, but its gonna be entertaining af to watch the NY media go after him.
top jimmy
He handled it fine as a Met.
DarrenDreifortsContract
Teams only sign the players the Dodgers don’t want.
BabeRuthsPiano
Great move NY this guy will get pounded in the AL East I was afraid it was going to be Snell. I can sleep better now
top jimmy
He’s pitched in the AL East before, and he pitched well there.
filihok
TJ
“He’s pitched in the AL East before, and he pitched well there.”
The problem is you expect these idiots too know what they are talking about
Lloyd Emerson
Have fun with that, Yankees fans. Hahaha
copper ridge
TWO YEARS ONLY
jaysfan77
Oh gawd, he’ll be strutting off the mound in TO I’m sure .. staring down the front office
bullred
Yes after 5 innings and giving up only 3 runs. Meh!
BetterMuppet:JUDGEorKERMIT?
Snell, Bellinger, and Chapman to the jays in a Boris Bundle!
Yankee Clipper
Haha! A Boras Bundle! I love that.
If he ever reads this site and sees your comment he’s going to make an Allstate-like commercial presentation for his next client meeting.
Jabronie23
Good fit for the Yankees. Stroman satisfies a lot of their pitching needs: upper-mid rotation starter, innings, ground balls
padam
4th starter in that lineup with Cole, Rodon, and Cortes.
bullred
Yes!, 4th starter on the DL!
Anthony maresca
Cortes with rotorcuff injury is toast and not going to be anything more than 4/5 starter as Stroman imo jumps to #2 over Rodon
norcalblue
This surprises me. I thought the Yankees were serious about wanting to win.
HatlessPete
Stromans a good pitcher at a relatively good price in this market and a sensible number of guaranteed years dude. Don’t see how this in any way shows they aren’t serious about winning lol.
Bigtimeyankeefan
Not a fan of this deal… I wanted monty
Yanks2
Why? He had one good post season and people want to act like he’s Scherzer
Yankee Clipper
Yanks2: For me it’s not as much about Monty being a great pitcher as it is he is dependable. Only Cole takes the ball every outing and we need more SP to do the same.
That said, his asking price is way too high… and I don’t care about AAV or total value, but I don’t want another guy north of 35 on this roster in a few years.
Yanks2
Jordan Montgomery has always been AVERAGE. He had a fluky post season, he’s still average. Gives up too many home runs
1984wasntamanual
He’s definitely been above average, but even if we just accept your assessment…having someone that’s average for 30 starts a year is pretty valuable.
Anthony maresca
Monty per reports only has a 5/130 offer on the table so he is not getting anything near $30-35 million per
KirkRueter
On to Jordan Montgomery? At this rate it will be Zack Greinke.
TrumboRedux
Yanks gonna get Snell and Ryu.
Yankee Clipper
DEFINITELY Ryu! He’s aging and injured – A Cashman Special….
But, I don’t think Ryu is a bad pickup for any team, as long as they can do it while also planning for him to be injured (which the Yankees never, ever do).
bullred
They should get Ryu.
Camden453
Oh this is going to be great. Stroman with a 6+ ERA at Yankee Stadium getting booed relentlessly. Then ends his career
Fitting ending
bobbyvwannabe
Stepmom is a no class POS. Enjoy him Yankee fans.
Yanks2
So is Donaldson lol
DanUgglasRing
Giants are failing again.
Fernando P
@Nick – “55M over five years”. I think you mean over three years.
Rsox
Previous post was “Yankees have made an offer to Blake Snell” apparently Stroman accepted that offer…
TrumboRedux
LOL!!!
1984wasntamanual
If they were really far apart the Yanks probably just moved on.
Old York
You know the Yankees have hit rock bottom when they have to sign this guy.
KirkRueter
Can’t have a casual beard but you can have neck tattoos? Just Yankee things.
Doug
He’s having them removed.
Moneyballer
Didn’t he reject 23 mil from chicago?
mike127
Might have….but in any math equation 37 mil is more than 23 mil and the reason for the opt out.
Moneyballer
Riiiiiight and he’s making less money next year, also true.
HatlessPete
But the 37 mil is fully guaranteed and is more than 23. Good job showing you don’t understand how mlb contracts work tho. Worst username post combo ever lol.
Anthony maresca
1/21 and he got 2/36 with easy attainable 3rd yr option what is essentially 3/55. He wanted to be a Yankee
Scott Costello
Went from the high of thinking the Yanks will sign Yamamoto, to the lowest of lows now having to see this idiot take the ball every 5 days.
YankeesBleacherCreature
“every 5 days” if they’re lucky enough his health maintains.
10centBeerNight
Hoo boy. Well. Might want to add more padding to the clubhouse
TrumboRedux
I was thinking more like an “octagon?”
Digdugler
Damn, amazing deal for the Yanks. 2 years, so cheap!
Juggy
Can’t stand him
Yanks4life22
This day has been an absolute joke. This is embarrassing after all the back and forth with him and the organization and his tendency to get ruffled easily with the media and fans. Ticking time bomb.
On a side note I wonder what Stromans burner account is/will be on this board lol.
Old York
@Yanks4life22
Go, Stroman. Great player, Best pitcher in the history of the game. Get ready for Amazing pitching, tons of no-hitters, complete games. Go Stroman!!!
/s
Old York
@davey gee
I need to feel important.
bullred
He is definitely on this board. His ego is huge. He wants to Google himself every day.
bullred
Stroman!
Yanks2
He’s obnoxious but he can pitch
Buzzz Killington
Verdouche and now him.
Yanks2
Verdugo is an upgrade over Aaron Hicks
Stroman is an upgrade over Michael King
1984wasntamanual
“Stroman is an upgrade over Michael King”
It’ll be interesting to see if that’s true over the next two yrs.
Yanks2
King sucks. No indication he would’ve remained consistent because he’s only had one good year
Doug
Man, I wanted them to sign Snell and deal for Bieber or Burnes. Hopefully they do still do one of those, and bump Schmidt back to the bullpen.
Anthony maresca
Lmfao!!! Rodon and Cortes will be in the bullpen before Schmidt my friend
178iq
1 year with the cubs was not gonna happen, He wanted a 2 year deal because he will need surgery at some point in 2024 and be out all of 2025. He will be paid almost 40 million to get surgery and not pitch- then will sign elsewhere. Smart guy. Great agent. Yankees had better pick up snell- he’s good for 3 years 1 of which will be cut young quality. The other 2 are a crap shoot. Yankees still need bats. People forget the couldn’t score runs last year. 1 bat in Soto isn’t going to change anything. They will lose by 2 runs a game instead of 3. Wow. Great job. Why not sign Soto to an extended contract? Because he doesn’t want to play for the Yankees. Remember he was a trade. Not a sign….
Wrian Washman
The reason I don’t comment often on news related to other teams is because I don’t know much about them. If only more people were that way. Soto on a contract year will add several wins to an already above .500 team. This is assuming absolutely zero improvement from Stanton and Rodon. On top of that Wells projects to hit better than Trevino and Volpe who just had a 20/20 season will have another year of experience under his belt. But yeah 2 runs instead of 3. I didn’t even mention Verdugos left handed bat or a possible Snell or Cease if they choose to part with Spencer Jones.
Yankee Clipper
Soto’s impact on this team is undervalued by so many. Here’s one aspect I think people are overlooking with Soto: he’s not just going to add the value of wins he accounts for, but in that lineup, he’s going to positively impact the other players around him too. It’s going to be an additive effect, rather than just straight “wins-added” imho.
HatlessPete
Lol OK buddy. Looks like you got a 1 in your username that doesn’t belong there.
TrumboRedux
Yanks4life, It’s “Juggy.” The guy who posted right above you.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Haha, this clown declined 21 million to only get signed for 18.5 million? I know it’s two years 35 million but sounds like a pay cut the first year unless I’m missing something?
drasco036
35 million is more than 21, you’re the clown if you don’t understand basic math.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I was looking at year to year value, not the whole contract. 18.5 is half of 35. Try again with the insults. If you understood my post, you’d get that. He would’ve made more in the first year if the option wasn’t declined if I’m understanding it correctly. Maybe he wanted security, but he’s making less in 2023 than 21 million.
I only said that about Stroman (clown) because I’ve heard his attitude in the past where he’s literally thrown teams under the bus. But directing it at others on here? Seriously?
drasco036
Bryce Harper made 10 million dollars less his first season in Philadelphia than his last season in Washington…. WHAT A CLOWN! Took a pay cut lololol
Yeah 35>21. I don’t know what to tell you. Everyone wants to talk trash about Stroman, so be it. The same morons will bring up Stromans past but post about how bad they want Josh Hader and are fine with Alex Verdugo being on the team.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Man, you seem triggered.
Did you read my post over 2 years, not just 1?
21 million over 1 year is greater than 18.5 million over 1 year.
18.5 is half of 35 million, which is what he is signed for 2 years and the article indocates 18.5 a year.
What does Harper have anything to do with this?
Say what you want, this guy is a headcase and has thrown other teams under the bus with his big mouth. I have no problem calling him a clown. I pity the Yankees for signing him. His stats aren’t bad, but just dealing with him in the clubhouse, I’d stay far away on character alone.
I’m glad the Sox got rid of Verdugo. He’s just not an impact player.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Okay, so it’s 37, not 35 but case still stands. Article still mentions 18.5 per year
luckyh
He and Verdugo will be quite the pair. Enjoy NY media!
drasco036
Nah, you just want to talk trash about some player you know nothing about and you look ridiculous in the process.
Stroman secured an extra 14 million and is pitching for a team he’s always wanted to pitch for.
Anyway, the Red Sox are going to be a non-factor again so enjoy last place, again.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I don’t just talk trash but you seem to. I know where my Sox stand but I’m not talking trash to you. Welcome to my mute list, where you can join other posters who post hate and get triggered like 9 year olds when they read a disagreeable post on a forum.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
How does he get an extra 14 million? It’s for two years, not one. 18.5 million per year. 37 million total.
But you wanna talk trash and not be reasonable… fine. I call many players clowns (some on the Red Sox), not other posters.
What’s so ridiculous about my posts? Really? Tell me and maybe use specifics.
1984wasntamanual
That’s not what literally means
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Maybe read my post or intentions better before calling out people? Or do you not have any respect?
mike127
So Chaim, I’m a little bit interested on your take on Ohtani making only $2M this year?
Math wise, what is more—-Ohtani’s actual salary cap figured $460 over ten years or his realized $700 M over 20 years?
Is he better getting an average $46 a year for 10 or $35 a year for 20?
What you also tend to be leaving out is that Stroman’s Cubs deal was slightly front loaded at $25M a year each in the first two years of the three year agreement. What he actually did was turned his 3 year $71M deal into a 4 year $87M deal…and that’s adding a year coming off injury questions the second half of the season.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
But it’s a two year deal versus a one year option. That has no comparison to Ohtani. I’m talking 2024 alone… he had the option, he declined. He got a new deal for 18.5 million the first year.
That’s all I’m talking about here, not extra years around it.
mike127
2024 alone…that’s what I’m talking…Ohtani is getting TWO million…Stroman (by your average) is getting over EIGHTEEN.
And please, where does it exactly say that he is getting $18.5 this year? We don’t know that it’s not $21 this and $16 next….but what we do know with 140 innings pitched in 2025 he gets another $18 large.
kodion
How is that less? Do you understand what guaranteed means? If he signed the deal, he’ll get the 37. The years are irrelevant.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I wasn’t comparing Stroman to Ohtani
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Are you asking me? He will get 37 but he’s making less than the option based on just the first year.
Anthony maresca
Lets look at it another way as montas getting $17 million for 1 yr when he only pitched 1 inning in 2023. That my friend is as stupid a move as they come!
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
When I posted it, 18.5 was mentioned in the article but they have since edited it. It may have been speculative, but I went off what was written previously.
bullred
Lol! your missing a few brain cells.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
You’re*
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Just think of it as one year at $21 million and a second year at $14 million and it seems like his gamble was pretty much a push, not a big win or loss on his part. If there is a small chance he is still injured, then the extra security is good for him.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I guess in the scheme of things, it’s not better or worse, but he certainly had a chance to pitch this year for 21 million and then test free agency for more money next year, which could have exceeded the 35 million. Like I said, maybe it’s a security thing wanting two years.
I think the biggest clowns are the Yankees investing in this guy personally.
Stealing Signs
His wife is from Toronto & wanted to live closer to home as her entire family is still here. He approached the Jays earlier in the offseason & given his history I’m not surprised the FO wasn’t very interested.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I didn’t, but drasco036 was attacking my original post, so I was merely defending myself.
I could care less what the guy makes, I just find it ironic he is making less than the deal he opted out of in the first year, especially for such an outspoken pitcher.
drasco036
And there you have it, straight from the horses mouth, well in this case, the idiots keyboard.
You don’t like Stroman so attempted to talk trash about him but instead made yourself look moronic.
21+0=21
18.5+18.5=37
37>21
First year! First year! First year!
bullred
drasco036 – Chaim is assuming Stroman feels he is a good pitcher and in that case 21 mil is greater than 18.5 mil. Stay in the contract and get more money on his next contract.
I’m guessing you are assuming Stroman’s arm is toast and in that case grab as much money as you can which is 37 over 2 yrs.
This is not going to end well for Stroman. At least he has 37 large!
drasco036
I’m not assuming that at all and anyone trying to mock, make fun or other talk trash about the contract just look ignorant because they are not informed about the decision.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
If Stroman is halthy, he will have mixed results as he usually does. He can have one game where he goes 6 innings allows 2 hits and has 9 strikeouts and looks masterful and another game where he gives up 8 runs in 4 innings and looks horrible. If he can end up with an era around 4.00 and with a good lineup on the team, I don’t see why he can’t go 12-9 with a 4.05 era. That would be a boost for the Yankees. If he is getting $37 million, then again, it is like exercising the $21 million option, plus adding a year at $16 million. Stroman is a short pitcher getting older and injuries do happen. While it is unfair, this bulletin board shows that his personality turns off many persons (not me). I think this was a good move for Stroman and a good move for the team. But there is also a chance that it explodes in the worst kind of way, if he starts with three or four bad outings in a row, his detractors will love it and go on a rampage. But if he starts strong, he could be a huge asset.
drasco036
Not to mention Stroman is from New York and it’s his dream to pitch for the Yankees. He definitely “won” his opt out. Secured more money while living out his dream… what a clown…
kodion
Chaim – Your initial premise is flawed. Isolating a portion of the guaranteed pay makes yours a small-view perspective without insight or wisdom.
That sound you hear is Stroman looking you in the kneecap and laughing at your futile efforts to insert yourself in the story
Digdugler
Verdugo is a much more annoying and worse human than Stroman.
bluejays92
Was a bit worried about him making a return to Toronto somehow even though they’ve got a pretty set rotation. I don’t think that he’ll end up competing with Patrick Corbin for having the most losses this upcoming season but I think he’s going to get rocked in New York, maybe ending up in the bullpen on the second year of the deal.
Guayacon
Fire Farhan another pitcher gets away
Juggy
Farhand looks like he tides the short bus
HatlessPete
Davey, Rally Thongs for all! That’ll do the trick.
slider32
Good move by Cashman, Monte was going to the Rangers, Snell will sign late and be a huge over pay, Stroman is a short term upgrade and gives the Yanks an edgy pitcher which is just what they need. He will give them innings and has some upside. If he pitches like he did with the Mets, Yankee fans will be happy.
thickiedon
Cole and Cortes seem edgy to me though. Seriously, nice add but don’t see the fit. I figured he’d end up in SF and was hoping he’d wind up with Houston.
YourDreamGM
Fair contract. Room for surplus.
its_happening
Stro wants the bright lights and the big stage, and Cashman has given it to him. Stroman wants to pitch in October, build his brand and assemble his life after baseball. New York helps him do all that.
bullred
Stro has the bright lights shining in his eyes so much he can’t see that most baseball execs and fans can’t stand him. New York will help him do that too.
its_happening
He is StroMEn for a reason.
1984wasntamanual
Unless he sucks
its_happening
Yes that is correct.
drasco036
Yankees have to sign Josh Hader now, rekindling the racist tweets controversy with Stroman in the clubhouse. Keep Verdugo away from the Vodka and 17 year olds
LostYankeeinexile
For the love of God why!?? I swear Cashman has no idea about what goes on in a locker room. Donaldson, A-Rod, now Stroman and Verdugo… guy has no clue how to build the heart of a team. I can only hope Judge and Soto don’t become this generation’s Jeter and A-Rod. We don’t need more mouthpieces, we need more heart.
Liberalsteve
lol at the cliches above. Baseball isn’t a mighty ducks movie. Every winning team has had “cancers”
dasit
see: 1977-1978 bronx zoo
LostYankeeinexile
1998 Core Four…. Jeter, Pettit, Rivera, Posada and Bernie Williams for good measure. If you think character and its intangibles have nothing to do with a winning record you’re either a pessimist or lack a fundamental understanding of team dynamics. Military trains on it, top companies train on it. It’s about the right fit not just talent. Sure Posada had fire, but respected the team, Rivera was deeply religious but respected the team, Petitt used HGH to heal but respected the team, Jeter … enough said.
jjd002
Didn’t the Yankees win a ring with ARod?
LostYankeeinexile
Yeah and should’ve won more.. but what did A-Rod do?? Hooked kids coming up like Cano and Cabrera into his PED company and turned them on to his me first attitude. Look what became of the team.
YankeesBleacherCreature
I think there are enough high character guys in the current clubhouse in Judge, Cole, Rizzo, DJL, and Boone. One can argue to toss Stanton into that mix as well. Rizzo grilled Higgy for forgetting the count last season in the dugout in plainsight.
LostYankeeinexile
@Creature This is true, but there were high character guys when A-Rod showed up too and now we’ve had a heart problem for the better part of a decade and a half. Just saying, poison pill attitudes are real man. Cashman doesn’t seem to look off the paper. CC was the guy that held everyone accountable, since he has gone, though Judge is the Captain… there doesn’t seem to be a cohesive core.
LostYankeeinexile
@Creature I’ll give you there’s individual high character, but Cole’s a baseball brainiac, Rodon’s a Hothead, Nestor is the goof, who’s the guy bringing all those personalities together … and why would you want a negative attention guy like Stroman in that mix?
YankeesBleacherCreature
@Lost I see your point but people mature and I’m willing to give Stroman the benefit of the doubt. Aside from German’s self-inflicted drama last season, there hasn’t been any clubhouse controversies that we know about since Boone has taken reign. I take what the NYP writes about with a grain of salt. I also believe Cashman’s uncharacteristic public outburst was contrived and I liked it as a fan.
LostYankeeinexile
@Creature Fair enough. Different strokes for different folks on liking the Cashman outburst. I felt it was a bit unprofessional. I can’t possibly know what goes on behind closed doors in the clubhouse, but after Jeters espn show, there’s a lot more questions in my mind about Cashman and his decision making. You’re right about the NYP , but I’m saying the media is already asking the question. If it becomes a storyline… mixed with Stroman’s past reactions and outbursts, (not to mention his little feud with Soto) … it’s just not what the team needs IMO
HatlessPete
So let me see if I got this straight. Cashman, the guy who oversees the Yankees baseball ops, has ongoing direct relationships with the players and direct reports from Boone and the coaching staff has no idea what goes on in the locker room. You, however, an anonymous schmo on the internet with a vivid imagination and a steady diet of hyperbolic sports media filtered through your biases and assumptions really know what’s what. Yeah sure that adds up bruh lol.
LostYankeeinexile
@Pete So let me get this straight … you .. some schmuck responding to some schmo on the internet , having no real opinion of your own to offer .. just wanna trash someone else’s.
Yeah, that adds up.
To your point though, Cashman has been tone deaf for years to the clubhouse. Girardi told him what needed to happen with Sanchez.. he didn’t listen, Jeter’s last contract… he squirmed and we asked because he didn’t like a player having more sway than him. Since Hal talked to Judge in his contract signing there’s been a noticeable gap in the front office communication to the players. Then there’s Cashmans explosion offseason on the media. How dare he be questioned…. It I’m sure you’re right… nothing but strong communication there.. I suppose that’s why Hal had to call a big airing it all out meeting at the start of the off season… cause communication and character are so clear. Yeah .. sit down before you hurt yourself wrapping your mind around that.
LostYankeeinexile
@Pete and I might be some schmo brother, but even the New York Post is asking the same questions
nypost.com/2024/01/11/sports/marcus-stromans-yanke…
meckert
I’m wondering if that doo rag is in accordance with the Yankee dress code. Good luck with this guy.
Viveleempireevil
Snell better move quick. Or he’s off to the M’s.
Mikenmn
Eh, it’s ok
YaGottaBelieveAgain
You have to believe Mr Stroman is motivated to be a good teammate and will try VERY hard to edit/filter his emotions and communications in lockerroom interviews and social media etc.. NYY needed SPs – he signed for a reasonable length of years. Good Luck to Him. Peace
With NYY offense he gives them a good chance for a Win
Even if you wanted Snell, Monty instead cost would have been alot more plus Chisox, MIL want alot for Cease or Burnes.
Signings like this increases the chance NYY can sign Soto long term
LostYankeeinexile
@Believe .. man I hope you’re right here… but there’s not much in Stroman’s history that shows editing or filter. You KNOW that’s gonna come up the first time the NY media gets a microphone in his face. Is it gonna rattle him? Distract him? Why would you risk that. He’s talented sure, but it’s not like he’s an Ace or number 2 even.
Puck34
I sense this match won’t be a good one. I think the Yankees would have been better off doing a trade for someone like Corbin Burnes or bringing back Jordan Montgomery.
I also believe Stroman would do better in a different ballpark.
It also seems Cashman has taken on some really bad contracts in relation to production.
bjhaas1977
LOL!
RickEO
Omg Too funny. Stroman, gleyber , stanton and verdugo on same team. Heading out to buy some popcorn
Braves Butt-Head
Almost pulled a Dennis Schroeder but he’s still losing 5 million since he didn’t take the 23 million dollar extension from the cubs for next season.
luckyh
Congrats-to every other team. Just like their big signing last year. It’ll be a bust.
TigersLoveCinnamon
Most everyone here said he was a cancer, so is this a good signing? The money seems low
Liberalsteve
That has more to do with the color of his skin
damancash
Say what you will but at least the guy actually Seems to wanna be a Yankee. Hopefully he proves that he deserves to wear the Pin Stripes.
1984wasntamanual
name checks out
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
My name is Stroman…
They hatin’
Yankees payin’, tryna catch me playing dirty
Tryna catch me playin’ dirty
Tryna catch me playin’ dirty
Tryna catch me playin’ dirty
Tryna catch me playin’ dirty
My mouth is so loud
I trashin’
I’m hopin’ they gonna catch me playin’ dirty
Tryna catch me playin’ dirty
kodion
Stroman’s burner …trying to disguise the fact?
Joe Lopez
It’s not the move I was expecting but I have a feeling that the Yankees will finally have some heart and fire on this 2024 team! And I mean fire in a positive way!
luckyh
They seem to have added some complainers. Enjoy!
CP77
$55MM over five years!! I counted 3.
HatlessPete
Only two years guaranteed
DirtyWater04
And there goes another quality, reasonably priced arm the “full throttle” Red Sox let slip away to someone else.
I’m so sick of this.
Murphy NFLD
I hear you as a jays fan, but he reached out to them and its his childhood team. He probably took less to pitch there amd may have even had a deal else were he was ready to sign but reached out to the yanks to see if they were interested enough to sway him. Id like to play for my team i know that and most ball player due to. Espically on a 2 year deal for 37 and player option after to take it to 3 years and 55
Jabronie23
Now they just need a late inning reliever and maybe a RH infielder like Gio Urshela
Old York
At least this is a 2-year deal. His FRA suggests he’s going to regress but given that he is a GB-style pitcher, that has shown to help with his better ERA.
His K-BB% isn’t great at 11.7 and it’s concerning that the average exit velocity was 90.3 in 2023.
Piro
Noooooooooooo!
alumofuf
Stroman’s ERA at Yankee Stadium is terrible and the worst at any MLB stadium. Doesn’t make sense. Hal being cheap.
Yanks2
Agreed
jgaepi
Did Preller resign or get fired and no one has been informed?
YanksPhan42
I’m not a fan of him personally as he’s usually a malcontent A Hole. If he can keep his ego in check, talent wise….it may not be a bad deal compared to what else we’ve seen.
I’d still like to see a trade for Burnes, Cease, Luzardo or Bieber if we really want to be a contender. Cole, Rodon, Stroman, Nestor and Schmidt? Meh. That’s not a World Series rotiation, sorry. Not with the recent injures and questions marks. Add in one of the above? Yes.
Captainmike1
First Donaldson now stroman
Yanks never Learn from their mistakes
Yanks2
Stroman has a much higher ceiling and also he can make more of a meaningful impact as a pitcher compared to a 3B
Rightout
Marcus will be a big time addition for you Yankee fans..see him with a ERA over 5 WHIP of 1.58 and About 3 wins before he breaks down….Cashman is a genius.. not
Augusto Barojas
This will probably work out way better than the Rodon deal for the Yankees, for way, way less money.
dartvard
Why not Snell just for kicks?
Mets Fan 62
He will have a good first third of the season and then, like always, he will crap out the rest of the way…blaming everyone but himself. Then he will spew hateful, racist remarks. A total punk who is average at best. Can’t wait until those lefties take him deep over the short porch in right field at Yankee Stadium.
larkraxm
He can’t be worse than Severino was last year. So enjoy that over there.
geno711
Had to look up his splits by month after you made this comment.
It looks like typically as the season extends, he has gotten a little less effective but not really crapped out as you suggested.
He is a decent inning guy. Averaging 150 per season over last three years. How many guys on the Yanks this year did you expect to project to 150 innings?
Not a stud by any means but a guy that appears to have given all the teams that he has pitched for some value at some points in his career with those teams.
By the way, a good friend of mine who is a Mets fan, really only hated Baez for his part in things. That friend wanted Stroman back with the Mets.
bullred
Stroman gave up 35 ER in 38 inn in his last 11 games last year. Hopefully that was a blip.
bullred
I hope all of Boras’s clients end up on the Giants on three year deals. Collusion Baby! Stick it to him.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
For two years it’s a fair price by today’s market standards and it’s a safely short commitment.
LostYankeeinexile
@Trillionaire .. it’s definitely a fair price … cheap even… but in this market where SPs are getting PAID .. is getting this guy on the cheap not a red flag? It feels like that means no one wanted to put up with his personality. On paper he’s decent, but it feels like we got a problem child that had no real place to go.
1984wasntamanual
He was also injured last year and coming off 2 consective years under 140ips.
LostYankeeinexile
@1984 true…and fair point .. but Montas didn’t play but what …less than 3-4 games last year…. And he got a higher AAV contract than Stroman. Just saying there could be something there is all.
kodion
Stroman has ALWAYS talked bigger than he is. Capable, he won’t disappoint with his on-field effort …even if the results don’t measure up to the self-promotion.
For those nit-picking over what he gave up versus what he signed for, could be he’s counting on a boost for the HDMH brand now that he is on a bigger stage.
Murphy NFLD
Its also his childhood team
Cubs Kev
Bye!
Salzilla
Oh boy. Not feeling this, tbh, but let’s see how it goes. If they get him and Snell, ok, that’s a fine enough rotation.
Mynameisnoname
Yankees are now depending on improved health and better results from three of their top four starters.
What could go wrong?
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
I think Stroman will fit right in nicely. You guys did see his stats last season prior to getting hurt, right?? If he can maintain that sort of production all year long, Yankee fans will have s%^t eating grins on their faces all summer long. He’s also a true competitor who cares and puts is whole heart/soul out there on the mound each start.
GhostofRandySavage
I like his energy. Along with Soto this Yankees team will be a lot less boring to watch.
1984wasntamanual
He won’t. Even when he wasn’t hurt, those numbers were a lot of smoke and mirrors. I was pretty happy that he opted out.
drasco036
I don’t think Stroman will reproduce his first half stats, one because the Cubs had a fantastic defense playing behind him and two Yankees stadium, among other stadiums in their division are very hitter friendly. His FIP, not that it matters all that much, was around 3 and a half during that stretch as well.
I do think the Yankees will enjoy having Stroman on the team and I expect him to pitch pretty much to his career averages which is a solid 3.
The Stroman haters are always out in full force and it’s pathetic. He didn’t like the Mets, so what, no one likes the Mets. No one wants to play on the little brother team.
Smacky
What exactly does the “MM” stand for after the salary number and one M that has to stand for millions?
Murphy NFLD
I thought rhi Double M was stupid aswell
Yanks2
Always wondered that too
MinorLeagueFan
In Roman numerals M = 1,000, and MM = 1,000 X 1,000 or 1 Million.
Murphy NFLD
As a jays fan and big stroman fam im happy hes were he always wanted to be once leaving Toronto and aying for the team he grew up loving. I man post on his X account a few days go about it and also on here. Hes a dog works his ass off, he sits 92-93 with a crazy sinker and has a multitude of other offerings that are average or better. He also uses swaying hesitation and throwing time changes being either much faster or slower to keep hitters of ballance us he doesnt walk guys and keeps the ball on the ground. Hes a solid 3 and a 2 at his best with a K/9@ 8 and B/9@ 2.75 over the last 3 years. He has swag and personality. Good for you Marcus now go Stroshow them your very best. Signed Johnny a Blue jays fan from St.john’s NL
LetTheGoodTimesROFL
Hopefully now the Yankees sign Joc Pederson and Tommy Pham. After the Verdugo trade I expect chaos and am popping my popcorn
TrumboRedux
Pederson to the Halo’s!!!
LordD99
Consistently good. A bit of a bargain in today’s market. I’d rather they go this route than overpay for Snell or Montgomery.
RichP
Another overpriced prone to injury signing by Cashman.
holycow16
Goodbye.
30 Parks
Good pickup.
whyhayzee
Mixed feelings. On the one hand, they signed him because he wanted to play there. That might or might not be the best idea, but it’s a start. On the other hand, he’s not a Boras client, so it’s a good thing that he has signed while the Boras clients wait for their big payday. I am hoping that many teams have decided not to deal with the Boras nonsense. His time has come and he should be gone. Enough. All he has contributed is higher player salaries which has just made the game worse off. Sure the players make bank but long term its unsustainable. When you bid up services nonstop there comes a point where it collapses. Maybe we are getting closer to that point and that is not a bad thing at all.
drasco036
The Yankees need all the pitching they can get. Stroman is a solid three starter and has been so his entire career.
The problem is, the Yankees cannot rely on Rodon bouncing back and pitching like an ace, they cannot rely on Snell pitching like an ace as well. It’s a bad time to ship out all your pitching depth for a hitter and try to replace it in free agency because there are too many question marks regarding all the free agent pitchers.
slider32
Pitching is always outlier for every team, the Rangers won the world series last year and they had an average pitching staff and a shaky pen until the playoffs. The Braves and Dodgers had their problems too. In todays game, you need a good pen, they are finishing every game. Starters are have less a role in the outcome of games.
GhostofRandySavage
None of those pitchers were very good besides King. The team is better now than it was. Remember, they couldn’t hit last year, and they pitched pretty well.
JDK 4
As a Red Sox fan I know I shouldn’t say anything about other teams signing free agents, but Stroman came cheaper than Giolito and Breslow, who had him with the Cubs didn’t think enough of him to go after him. Makes you wonder. Just saying.
drasco036
The Cubs had bigger fish to fry than re-signing Marcus Stroman. By all accounts he was a great teammate and clubhouse presence while in Chicago.
Although nothing has really came to fruition, the Cubs focus has to be adding a serious impact bat and they are fishing at the higher end of the free agent pitching pool.
Stroman has also always wanted to play for the Yankees, he’s from New York, has a New York based charity and of course, it’s the Yankees.
Stroman reached out to the Yankees, he signed a 37 million dollar deal which one could reasonably assume (unless you are a Stroman hater like so many people are) that was a discount to play for a team he really wanted to play for.
Since people want to focus on the negative, let’s look at some perspective. We all know/hear the pitching market is tied up waiting for Snell and Monty to sign, the Yankees are interested in both those pitchers and jumped at the chance to ink Stroman at 18.5 per year, if you want to make an assumption that the Cubs were out due to some character issue, then you have be willing to accept the Yankees saw 18.5 million AAV as an offer to good to refuse.
The real Oscar Gamble
Don’t feed the trolls. How tf can these losers do this nonsense all day everyday?
AIMLB
Stroman can be found in Oscar Gambles hair after games.
AIMLB
DId you wake to any seam shifted sweepers lately?
Mikenmn
He will be a functional addition. But, yes, it is like tearing the wrapping off a gift box and finding a white oxford button down dress shirt in it.
619MetroFriars
So both Stroman and Blake Snell are to be signed by the Bronx, eh?
619MetroFriars
I think Dylan Cease is actually the best fit for the Friars as our #3 starter (behind Joey Musgrove and Yu Darvish). Cease has Padres written all over his face as we are searching exactly for a mid rotation starter of his caliber (and price range). Not the Bronx Bombers.
AmericanRedneck
What an awful signing, especially with superior pitchers still readily available.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Your post matches your user name so well that I have to wonder if it was newly created.
Dogleg62
Sadly, Stroman has to be penciled in as the Yankees’ #3 starter in their rotation. (obviously, behind Cole & Rodon) Nestor, thus far, only has the 1 good season under his belt, and perhaps that’s all he’ll ever have? Schmidt performed well last year himself, but as a 5th starter, which can be filled by any of the minor league acquisitions Cashman has made this offseason if he too falters in 2024. I don’t see them signing either of Snell or Montgomery at this point.
User 624265706
Honestly, I’m glad he’s no longer a Cub. I question his physical endurance and health, plus, he’s getting older, out of his prime.
Baseball dude
Hmmmm, I guess overreaction is something you do when you get turned away by the big fish. It happened years ago when Ohtani pointed his nose up at the Yankees. They needed a splash to massage their ego and traded for Stanton. We all know how that worked out. Now comes Stroman, a bonafied head case. We’ll see if this works out better. But at least their egos are massaged.
melfman1
I think with this signing, other than injuries or unexpected trades, the 26 man roster is set for Opening Day.
Rotation:
Cole
Rodon
Cortez
Stroman
Schmidt
Bullpen:
Holmes
Kahnle
Loaisaga
Ramirez
Hamilton
Gonzalez
Effross
Weaver
Catchers:
Wells
Trevino
Infield:
Rizzo
Torres
Volpe
Le Mahieu
Peraza
Cabrera (also backup OF)
Outfield/DH
Judge
Soto
Verdugo
Stanton
Grisham
Yanks4life22
That sounds average unless Volpe becomes a superstar, Stroman is average to good, Cortes is good to elite, Rodon is good to elite, Rizzo is healthy and bounces back, DJL is healthy and bounces back, Soto has a monster year. All possibilities, don’t like the odds TBH.
Yankee Clipper
Our team is much improved from the disaster that was 2023; but it still not the best ALE team by any definitive measure, imho. Planning (hoping?) on several rebounds and health with players that have demonstrated they are not consistently healthy.
We need one more SP (even a #3 would help greatly), and could benefit from a viable everyday IFer.
Jaysfansince92
Despite being a Jays fans I would love to see Stanton somehow get healthy and get back to form. Having Soto, Judge, and a vintage Stanton in the same lineup would be fun to watch (I’m a baseball fan as much as I am a Jays fan). Also it’s less fun to win against bad Yankee teams. I would rather see the Jays go up against a good Yankees team.
Wheeler Dealer
Suckers
Whyme
As A Jay’s fan Stroman can be very good the issue is having to hear him go off.
selw0nk 2
The guy is toxic just like Trevor Bauer.
Yanks2
Bauer is a scum human being. Stroman speaks his mind and isn’t afraid to offend. I actually respect him for that. Too many people get offended by the truth because they’d rather have people sugarcoat things to make them more desirable to hear
Magnoiabuck
Yanks over 300MM payroll trying to buy the AL pennant. Most likely a wild card finish in 24..
Crap shoot in playoffs. Look what happened to Braves, Orioles, Rays and Phillies last season in playoffs. Who would have thought Rangers go undefeated on road and and D-backs win NL pennant. Hope for all teams springs eternal. Can’t wait until Grapefruit League starts in March.