The Yankees are interested in left-hander Blake Snell, reports Jon Heyman of The New York Post. That meshes with reporting from Andy Martino of SNY, who says the club is “planning an active January” as it hopes to add to its pitching staff before Spring Training. Martino adds that Snell has privately expressed an interest in the Yankees, though also adds they are not the only club in his market.
The Yankees were heavily pursuing Yoshinobu Yamamoto, highlighting their desire to add to their rotation. Previous reports from Mark Feinsand of MLB.com and Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic suggested that, if the Yanks missed on Yamamoto, they might pivot to build a super bullpen instead of focusing on the rotation. Now that Yamamoto has signed with the Dodgers, the Yankees are exploring their other options and it seems they haven’t totally abandoned the idea of a significant rotation addition. They have had ongoing interest in bringing back Jordan Montgomery and now Snell appears to be on the table as well.
If they were to sign Snell, they would have a rotation fronted by the two reigning Cy Young winners. Snell just took home the National League hardware for his excellent season with the Padres while Gerrit Cole got the American League trophy. Despite that, the pitchers are actually quite different. While Cole has been the poster boy for stability and reliability, Snell’s career has been more erratic.
He finished 2023 with 180 innings pitched for the Friars, registering a 2.25 ERA in that time. He struck out 31.5% of batters faced and kept 44.4% of batted balls on the ground but also gave out walks at a 13.3% clip. That got him second career Cy Young, the first coming with the Rays in 2018 when he had a 1.89 ERA. But the four seasons in between those two elite campaigns were more shaky. His ERA finished 4.20 or higher twice and he didn’t reach 130 innings in any of them, dealing with various injuries.
Those concerns aside, Snell is clearly one of the best pitchers in the league when things are going well and he has received interest from the Giants, Angels, Mets and Red Sox. The Yankees slotting him next to Cole would give the club an excellent one-two punch. Carlos Rodón and Nestor Cortes are each coming off disappointing injury-marred seasons but have been excellent in the past. If they are able to bounce back this year, and the club signs Snell, then they would be looking at arguably the best front four in the league. The depth was thinned out in the Juan Soto deal, with four pitchers going to San Diego, but the Yanks still have Clarke Schmidt, Clayton Beeter, Yoendrys Gómez, Luis Gil and Will Warren as options for the back end.
At the start of the offseason, MLBTR predicted Snell to land a seven-year deal worth $200MM, around $28.6MM per year. The Yankees haven’t been shy about handing out huge deals for starting pitchers in recent years, as they gave Cole $324MM, Rodon $162MM and reportedly offered Yamamoto $300MM over 10 years.
Per Roster Resource, the club currently has a payroll of $279MM and a competitive balance tax figure of $290MM. The Yanks are set to pay the luxury tax for a third straight year, meaning they have a base tax rate of 50% for any spending beyond the lowest threshold of $237MM. As the brackets go up in $20MM increments, their tax rates jump to 62%, 95% and 110%. They are already well beyond the third line and just $7MM away from the highest tier. That means that signing Snell to a salary in the $25-30MM range would actually cost them around twice as much when factoring in the taxes.
Last year, the club was reluctant to pass the final tier but it feels as though they are more willing to blow past it this year, given that they are so close to it and still actively pursuing upgrades. Even if they eventually turn away from a rotation addition and turn instead to relievers like Jordan Hicks or Robert Stephenson, they would still find themselves on the other side of the border.
JayRyder
Giants are out. They’re cheap. Have been for a few seasons now. And the reprocussions are evident. Bring back Sabean and let’s get some players in here.
semut
Farhan will offer Snell around $50-100mil less than the leading contract, knowing they won’t have to fulfill it but still leaving him the availability to tell fans “We were in until the end, but ultimately he chose to play elsewhere. Not our fault”
cwsOverhaul
They really did offer Judge a ton and had Correa/got lucky it fell through. Signed recent OF to 9 figures. Farhan isn’t pretending to go after FAs.
scottn59c
@ cwsOverhaul: He is, though. Semut’s comment is hyperbolic, in that Farhan didn’t offer top FAs less money; but what he did do was just tepidly agree to match offers, such as with Ohtani and Yamamoto. Why would those guys choose to sign with the Giants simply because they agreed to meet the same terms as the Dodgers? Signing top FAs means beating the other offers, and by a sizable amount if you are a fringe contender like the Giants are. Farhan is either phoning it in or has no clue about how to actually win a bidding.
JayRyder
Has no clue about bidding. Unless they are cast off, dump off, Fringe injured players that Had value at some point. He is excellent at his rehabilitation process and Does have Great Value. Just not as a Head of Baseball Ops Dept. No Way from what I’ve seen.
semut
I don’t know man, Correa hit .230 last year. He seems like he would have been the perfect fit for Farhan
semut
Jay – He’s been an excellent 2nd man everywhere he’s gone. He was amazing as Beane’s right hand man, and was amazing as Friendman’s right hand man. But when he became THE guy without the shrewd business brain he really got exposed
rememberthecoop
How the heck would younor anyone outside of their front office, know what they did or did not do?
JayRyder
Agreed, there is a fear in his operating. Playing it safe with his strengths, rather than getting mid tier players that build a core, sum of all parts sort of thing. Also the drafting hasn’t produced much at all. Bailey is great, bat we’ll see. Webb I don’t know if that was Farhan, but a few others are so far off from ever being anything.
foppert2
Tepidly match offers is your usual exaggerated negative take that has no basis in fact. They offered Correa 50m more than the next offer. They offered Judge the highest amount that the Yankees matched. You can only assume they offered Lee way over the favourite Padres. They offered Ohtani the deal that was obviously put forward by his team.
Farhan would have more knowledge about how to win a FA bid than any of us would have in our little toe.
scottn59c
“They offered Correa 50m more than the next offer.”
And then they balked. Thank god.
“They offered Judge the highest amount that the Yankees matched.”
The Dodgers and the Yankees can offer to “match” bids, and their powerhouse statuses might well be enough to move the needle. The Giants’ franchise does not have that status or privilege.
foppert2
They don’t. Just having a cry because the Yankees are also interested in Snell. Time to make themselves feel better by criticising their whipping boy.
unpaidobserver
Something giving people the impression Zaidis only halfserious tho…gotta think at this point its Zaidi himself.
JoeBrady
what he did do was just tepidly agree to match offers,
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What’s the alternative? Offer them 20% more? They are already quite well paid.
scottn59c
@JoeBrady: It’s a market, my man. You have to offer more if you are a lesser team looking to reel in a big fish.
unpaidobserver
Would he tho?
foppert2
The Padres offered Judge 400. What’s that telling you ?
He wanted to be at the Yankees. Full stop.
Accept it. Move on.
1984wasntamanual
Gotta love the 12 year olds on here expressing their FOMO. That’s not how you run an MLB team.
Balk
JayRyder…I would prefer the Giants not signing Snell at all but to say they’re cheap is ridiculous. They just were reported to have offered the same amount of money for both ohtani and yamo.
semut
Balk – THE SAME AMOUNT. Farhan & Company know that no one will choose the Giants over the Dodgers in current situations if the dollar amount is equal. The Giants would have needed to go above what LA was offering. Literally everyone here knows that, and I know you do also.
The fact that the Giants offered to match the Dodgers offers exactly makes my point
Balk
No it doesn’t make your point. As they’re not cheap, when they offer the same amount. If you understand anything about baseball, you would know that once the money demand is met, it’s up to where the player wants to play. Judge wanted to stay in New York the whole time, no amount of money would’ve changed that, ask the Padres who came in with a higher offer, and the same for Ohtani and Yamo. Cmon. Use just a little common sense
Simm
The problem is the dodgers. The dodgers don’t sign everyone and don’t go after everyone. It’s they aren’t winning a even bid a lot of different teams
foppert2
Maybe every team was told no amount over the 700m deal they proposed was going to stop him going to his team of choice.
Balk
Dumb comment with no real facts. Get over it
semut
Ok so money being equal, tell me why someone would choose to play for the Giants on their current trajectory than the Dodgers? It’s not just ALL about money. If everything is equal across the board – money, city, etc – players want to win, so why would someone choose to play for the Giants and play against LA rather than vise versa? There’s times – just like this – where a team needs to beat other offers.
It might be just all about the money if the player is all about the money, but most guys value championships
JayRyder
Plus, They Visably and Publicly have brought Posey back into the fold. This defending mediocrity is obtuse. They know they stink. They know they’ve gotten worse. They just hired a new manager. Who was a catcher, basically Bochy part two. Sabean will be back. Count on it. The Ops Dept needs a Shakeup. And Baer has been cut at the knees too. They are searching for answers that much is clear. And Farhan Chuckles I don’t believe should be the face of Giants Baseball at All.
unpaidobserver
Extremely effective for some reason.
spliffTONE
dErP
Very Barry
Put Harrison, Luciano and Whisenhunt on the table and you can have your press conference announcing Dylan Cease before the evening news.
Balk
Very Barry…you really want to piss off Giants fans huh? Haha! No thanks
its_happening
4-5 years ago people thought Farhan was one of the best in the game. Besides doing little, having no success and having one great regular season, what’s the problem?
Balk
Its_happening…the problem is all the terrible contracts he was grandfathered into. Which is why they gave him time. They had Longo, Belt, Crawford along with others and Evan’s depleted the farm. That’s the problem
its_happening
Those terrible contracts is the only reason he’s made the postseason. Otherwise he’d have none. This the result of having someone that took no interest in baseball the first 25 years of his life.
Balk
That’s your opinion but that’s not why.
its_happening
That’s a balk.
Farhan didn’t know what that was until age 26. The fate of the Giants is in the hands of a man that doesn’t have baseball in his blood. Not an opinion, an absolute fact based on conduct and history.
Balk
That absolutely is an opinion…but like the analogy
oldgfan
Whole lotta SFG grumbling on just a hearsay article about another team’s possible target. Let the offseason play out fellas.
towinagain
Trade now becomes Soto, Grisham, Snell for King, Brito,Vasquez,Thorpe and Higashioka.
Smh.
99CaptainJudge99
You can keep Snell dude. I’d definitely want to sign Monty and Hader with that Snell $.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Giants and Red Sox have a very similar trajectory the last few seasons.
seth3120
I know this is a Boras thing but Snell and Montgomery gotta land somewhere in the near future. The marque guys are off the board and Snell just won the CY Young award and the Rangers don’t win last years WS without Montgomery. Those who missed out should be circling the wagons as we speak
Seamaholic
Translation: Snell is in talks with at least one other team that isn’t budging on their final offer. Agent calls Heyman and presto, Yankees are a good boogeyman (and probably not a complete bluff either, as they might well be interested … should be anyway).
rocky7
True….amazing how the Yankees are supposedly according to Heyman “in” on all 3 Boras clients and most likely are being used to push the contract offers up to where Boras wants them to be…happens every time whether the Yankees are really involved or not……how to we really know?
deweybelongsinthehall
Agreed or the Yankees are just doing their due diligence. I’d prefer Montgomery who is amongst the most underrated and consistent pitchers this generation has seen. I still see him ending up in Boston since his wife is there already. No disrespect meant as Boston and New York have some of the best hospitals anywhere and if New York was where they wanted to be, I believe she could have gotten an internship in NYC.
WiffleBall
I’v enever heard such hyperbole about Montgomery. I mean, he’s good — I like him, and would love to see him back on the Yankees — but one of the most underrated pitchers of his generation? Yikes. Get off the bud, my man, it’s only noon.
whyhayzee
Who’s more underrated? It’s not a value judgement. It says nothing about how good you are, it’s just a comparison between how you are rated and how you perform.
deweybelongsinthehall
Wiffle, the man doesn’t seem special yet outside of Kershaw and the guy already in pinstripes, who has been year in and year out more consistent? He just delivers innings and a low 3 ERA every season
Dynasty
If anything, after this offseason, I’m convinced that Montgomery is one of the most overrated of this generation. It’s like people started watching baseball in 2023 (where he had over a 4 xFIP by the way). and forgot about his other seasons.
larkraxm
That isn’t weed, it’s shrooms!
deweybelongsinthehall
Montgomery has been consistent with every team he’s been on. In today’s game, that is value that can’t be overstated. Given what players are being paid, I’d love to have him in Boston. Remember i. 18, Sale and Price were the bigger names but Eovaldi was the key pitcher.
PaaaaTrick Ewing
Most Underrated ? hes a 500 pitcher Hits to IP’s is equal , 150 innings guy, The only thing he is, Is hes durable. He will give you 30 starts But to say the most underrated in this generation is a little bit stretching it
Dont you think ??
nukeg
Yep, same story. Boras client. LA and NY. We know the Angels are in on Snell (at least according to MLBTR), so the missing link for Boras is New York. Hey Jon, guess what? The Yankees are in on Snell!
stymeedone
More and more teams are looking at Atlanta avoiding Boras’ clients, and watching the strategy work. NYY are not one of them.
Big whiffa
Lord I hope so ! If every big name that moves this offseason ends up on dodgers or Yankees it’s going to be a major blow to baseball. Most sports fans I talk to are already completely turned off by it
semut
Every single team signed off on the new CBA which only the Dodgers and Yankees seem to be taking advantage of. Go complain to your cheapass owners who are raking in 10+ figures a year in revenues about SPENDING some of that money before complaining about those who are
1984wasntamanual
Wait, you think every team has a billion+ in revenue every year?
deweybelongsinthehall
Until SD and the Mets changed things, teams were not going over that first threshold and everyone was ducking back under every three years. I’m surprised the MLBPA hasn’t argued it was collusion given today’s situation.
larkraxm
I know that every team received $110 million in revenue sharing at the start of last year and 15 teams had a payroll under $90 million.
stymeedone
I have no problem with the Yankees back filling their rotation with injury prone pitchers at top dollar.
larkraxm
I would also love for somebody to explain to me how the Yankees spending $35 million on Hicks and Donaldson last year hurt the Brewers??
Madbummer
Snell would prefer to sign with Seattle, but I don’t think there is mutual interest. Beyond that, he is going to the highest bidder. I don’t think it matters where the team is located, or even if they are competitive. He just wants to get paid.
Big whiffa
Seattle needs to sign him then trade controllable pitching for controllable hitting. Sign him and trade Gilbert and Miller for Jordan Walker
yeasties
These 2 moves work financially but who does Seattle sign to replace Miller? After signing Snell, there’s no money left. Bring Luke Weaver back as the #4?
Brew’88
I think you’ve nailed it Seamaholic. Heyman can always be counted on when it’s a slow day or rumors
dasit
boras: organ grinder
heyman: monkey
carlos15
This seems just like the Rodon situation though, takes forever, asking price is real high, he’s good but also has some spotty years and then the Yanks show up to blow everyone out on a guy this didn’t want that much to begin with. It feels right, Yanks are gonna land this guy and he’ll throw 130 innings next year with a 4.50 ERA
siddfinch1079
^this. I hope my Yanks avoid him like the plague, which is crazy considering the guy has 2 Cy Young Awards!
Cknyc
here come yankee fans believing snell to bronx will happen….
rocky7
And here come Yankee haters making anti-Yankee comments again!
Yankee Clipper
Actually, CK, I think nearly all fans understand that this is Heyman earning his monthly check from Boras by trying to get Boras more money.
Cknyc
@yankee clipper
true.
personally, i hate patrick mcavoy of sports illustrated. all he does is write 3 paragraph articles of how yankees are linked to everyone.
i even cursed him out on twitter/X.
no response yet, the nerve of him.
deweybelongsinthehall
Do you think Boras takes Heyman on lavish trips like a certain supreme Court judge gets from his sponsor?
99CaptainJudge99
Yeah Clip, I was thinking the same thing.
99CaptainJudge99
I really hope not. No need for Snell let him go to Seattle, if that’s where he wants to be. It’s Monty or bust now as far as starters on the free market for the Yankees. I would rather sign Monty & Hader then sign Snell.
deweybelongsinthehall
Captain I’m in agreement. Harder though is likely to remain unsigned for a while given his price.
99CaptainJudge99
@dewey- We truthfully have no idea if Snell can pitch in NY. Monty has definitely shown he can though. With Snell there is no doubting his talent it’s definitely there. I think it’s all Boras saying that Snell would love to play for the Yankees. Snell is a West Coast guy he would definitely be more happy, and probably pitch better out there with the Mariners, Giants, or the Angels. I’ve wanted Monty from the beginning, it’s definitely time to kiss his fanny, tell him how sorry you are that you traded him, and then take him out to fancy dinner, and sign him for 6 years, and offer him a full no-trade clause in his contract. The Yankees at least owe him that.
deweybelongsinthehall
99C, I’m now reading elsewhere that Montgomery does not want to return to the Yankees. Who really knows but as I said elsewhere, with his wife’s residency or internship in Boston, signs still point to him pitching at home at Fenway. I know if I had an opportunity like that, it’s win-win (assuming I love my wife…).
DR2020
I never wanted to see Monty go honestly. It cares if you bring some back now on a huge contract, it just shows how incompetent he is I’m sure he would be loath to do so, but I hope Monty returns. but we need bodies out there to pitch, with this rotation it’s Gerrit Cole, and pray for snow. The rest of the rotation are all?
larkraxm
I think most real Yankee fans hope not. We have two left-handed starters and don’t need another starter that is a Rodon replica.
Chuck from Uniontown
Sign Snell for $30M a year and pay $60M a year after penalty tax? That’s…. something.
Milk Me
Sounds like a Yankee thing to do. Watch those homerun balls fly out of the stadium
slider32
Yes, but that’s only for one year, they could go under next year with all their pitcher under control and still sign Soto! They make over 700 million a year according to Forbes.
stymeedone
Forbes is guessing. They don’t get to see the books either.
Black Ace57
He is a talented but inconsistent pitcher with injury issues. That’s Cashman’s favorite type of player.
all in the suit that you wear
The Yankees had their 1st round pick dropped 10 places due to CBT spending. Signing Snell would set back their draft further as they would also lose their 2nd and 5th picks. So, I doubt they sign Snell.
semut
But Farhan said they were all in..
scottn59c
@semut: Do you really want Snell at the $200m he’s likely to command? He’s been plagued by control problems that will only worsen when his velocity dips as he sails into his 30s. Buyer beware.
just_thinkin
The reigning Cy Young finally gets some interest. What is this guy, chopped liver?
Seamaholic
He’s a classic case of a guy teams are gonna be wary of. Although he has tremendous rate stats — maybe the best — he’s got a long track record of not going deep into games, and also has an injury history. Teams will LOVE him at a normal “top end starting pitcher” level, about $25m a year, but will be very leery of a “superstar aircraft carrier” level contract. He’s gonna sign very late and it may be a complete shocker of a team. Someone who normally doesn’t spend but sees an opportunity to go for it.
just_thinkin
Seamaholic – Good explanation, thanks!
Longtimecoming
Seam – what is this “injury history” that you speak of?
He is a guy that consistently makes 23-31 starts every year. While they may suggest he misses a little time, so do a lot of guys these days.
Really, no TJ or shoulder surgery or anything like that that I recall?
just_thinkin
23 starts means injury.
Longtimecoming
Not all injuries are the same – blister, dropping a weight on your toe, soreness, sinus infections, shut down early as precaution with team out of it, etc.
When you call someone to have an injury history – think Dustin May; Chris Paddock; Ohtani.
Something that is serious enough to be classified as an “injury” that adversely affects pitching long term as opposed to missing some random starts.
He has 27 a few times and 11 in 2020 so, this isn’t some injury history to be concerned about.
JoeBrady
what is this “injury history” that you speak of?
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Wasn’t he on the IL in 2019, 2021, and 2022? That’s 3 of the past 4 full seasons.
Longtimecoming
Joe – as outlined above, a person can be on the il for 15 days and not be “injured”.
The Dodgers use the IL rules for starters all the time (maybe not in 23 because they didn’t have many).
A guy gets the flu – is he injured?
Musgrove drops a kettle bell on his toe –
Sure he is injured but it is not his arm and freaky enough to warrant “an injury history”?
Look up Snells reasons for those IL stints and when you find a TJ or shoulder surgery or the like get back to me.
deweybelongsinthehall
Then please explain his lack of going deep into games. How about paying per inning completed?
runningwithnailclippers
Maybe they are concerned about an underlying issue that may not be making the rounds among the media hounds? Did they keep his innings short to avoid something drastic occuring?
Longtimecoming
Dewey – no, I won’t explain because they had nothing to do with my asking what the “injury history”.
Deal with it – I didn’t bring that up.
Don’t be such a Dewey.
Longtimecoming
No, he has a high ball count and sometimes – as a result of not trusting a certain pitch – he runs his pitch count up.
His high SO and ground ball rate eliminates those high than usual walks and they don’t score resulting in a low ERA.
Has nothing tk do with limiting innings.
Look at how many 6 + starts he had (with 1 or less runs I might add) after May 4, 2023.
Baseball Reference can make you wonder what the problem is here.
This is all about the entire FA market being held up first by Ohtani, then Yam and now a bunch of Boras clients.
Jaysfansince92
If he us only making 23 starts that is more than 15 days you pretty much have to take the amount of starts missed and multiply it by 5 for a SP. Healthy starters make around 32 starts if they don’t miss any time. That is around 9 starts missed multiply that by 5 and that’s around 45 days. That’s just a rough estimate but that’s around a month and a half that’s not a small amount of injury time.
Longtimecoming
Jays that is a fair but general approach.
Again, no one seems to care about “what” caused the time.
See my examples posted yesterday above and why this does really matter.
Longtimecoming
Just google it. Last 4 IL
Last 2 times Groin/left abductor – short
Gastroenteritis- short
Illness – short
This isn’t TJ or elbow or Shoulder capsule stuff.
One short elbow stint in 2019
One should fatigue in 2018
Seriously, “injury history”?
Salzilla
Yes, absolutely chopped liver. Yuck.
stymeedone
@Choppedliver
Sure, Snell won the Cy Young in ’23, but that’s not who you are signing. Look at ’22, and ’21, also. Combine them. That’s what your getting, warts and all.
Longtimecoming
Styme – 27 and 24 starts. Had one of the best runs of all SPs to end 22 over last 10 or so starts.
Each year had his slow start and then turned it around to finish really strong in 22 as evidenced by a 3.38 ERA overall to bring it down from the April/May high.
Everyone attributed 21 and the start of 22 to issues with being traded. Snell states he just starts slow.
He is what it is but to say he wasn’t good in 2022 is wrong. 21 wasn’t CY material for sure, his worst but crap man most every pitcher has a down year in their history somewhere.
He is a lot less of a risk than an unproven / never thrown a pitch in MLB guy and look what Yam just got paid!
vaderzim
Just sign him already.
swagsuperawesomeepiccoolman123
i don’t trust Jon Heyman with yankee news anymore
Braves Butt-Head
I wouldn’t trust him with any kind of news to begin with even if he was on a middle school paper reporting on the local bake sale.
swagsuperawesomeepiccoolman123
Jon Heyman probably – “Blame Smell appears headed to the Giants.”
Portland Micro-Brewers
Here comes all the boomers commenting about how players make too much and throw too little innings.
Someone will probably bring up pitcher wins or batting average as supporting evidence. The comment section here never changes no matter how long I leave
JoeBrady
Here comes all the boomers commenting about how players make too much and throw too little innings.
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Did a single commentator mention anything you just commented on?
No, so you are inventing straw men to argue against.
Don’t take it personally, but you’re an idiot.
Portland Micro-Brewers
Hey Joe Brady. Still calling strangers names on the internet? You haven’t wasted ten years of your life on here.
rememberthecoop
Yeah but he’s right. That was an idiotic comment you made. I’m a boomer and I don’t feel that way at all. I’m into advanced metrics, etc. Don’t paint with such a broad brush dude.
JoeBrady
Still calling strangers names on the internet?
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I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings. Would you prefer that I referred to your comment as idiotic, instead of calling you an idiot?
You know, I only do this to help you out. If someone doesn’t call out the idiotic “comments”, you will continue to make idiotic “comments”.
stymeedone
@JB
You get called out, but continue to be an idiot. Obviously that strategy doesn’t work on idiots.
Portland Micro-Brewers
Someone just brought up BA on the Bader post not even 3 hours old and it got a bunch of upvotes.
Admit it. You boomers are turning this website into Facebook. Who showed people like you DeGrom, and Yankee clipper how to comment.
Youre horrible people who have argued with countless people on here. I’ll leave this website for another 6 months now. You boomers can argue with other commenters
TrumboRedux
Portland, Shhhhhh! Stop being an ageist scumbag =)
oldgfan
K Bye.
This one belongs to the Reds
I think Portland is a Millennial or a Gen X Y or Z dude with daddy issues.
TrumboRedux
Anyone that keeps parroting “boomer boomer boomer” definitely does. Probably abused by older relatives and has complete disdain for anyone “older” than them. It is such a weird issue to have. I almost feel bad for them…Almost..
spooky
Use Boomer a couple more times clever guy. Be gone and stay gone. Thanks
rememberthecoop
And you younguns know very little except how to embarrass yourselves. Actually, I am someone who is on this site a lot, and I don’t think that what you say is accurate
This one belongs to the Reds
I get along with everybody, older or younger alike. Only problem I have is with idiots, but you find them of all ages!
Yankee Clipper
Portland Micro: How did I get roped into your diatribe? And, I’m a couple generations removed from a Boomer….. soooo, yeah. But, what does being a “Boomer” have to do with discussing baseball? I’m lost on that one.
Nonetheless, I rarely fall into personal attacks, although I admit I’ve made the mistake. I intentionally try to be respectful of other’s views, even when I vehemently disagree with them.
TrumboRedux
Shut up you Clip, you BOOMER!!!!
JK I take it all back.
TrumboRedux
P.S. Clip, I still find myself cracking up over: “Put in the pizza rolls, Daddy’s having a party!”
This one belongs to the Reds
I bet Momma is making Tuna casserole too!
TrumboRedux
Like Jon Bernthal in “The Wolf Of Wall Street.”
Ma we got chicken?
Ma we got chicken or what?!
Ma!!!!!
runningwithnailclippers
I respect my elders (the Boomers). I also find the Millenials somewhat amusing with their need to be seen and heard all the time. The Gen Z’s are hillarious littler turds but the scariest ones of all are the GEN A kids. They are like gremlins just waiting to eat after midnight.
TrumboRedux
Love this post. “Hilarious little turds” LOL!!!
This one belongs to the Reds
Don’t get them wet.
runningwithnailclippers
We really can find something intersting or funny from any of our generations.
runningwithnailclippers
That’s it! I thought it was food after 12 for some reason.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Commenter deGrom is Generation Y
Longtimecoming
Portland – I thought it was The Facebook? When did it change?
Oh yeah, get off my grass.
Signed,
Almost a Boomer
User 1404051815
Joe, I often like your insights and posts. This isn’t one of those times
If what you are intimating is that only people of a certain age can perceive that the salaries of professional athletes worldwide entails the idea that our collective priorities are severely out of whack, then it speaks more to your intelligence, or lack thereof
But hey, do ramble on about how older people are the problem
TrumboRedux
Tired, I think the threads are getting mixed up. I don’t think Joe was the one saying that stuff.
JoeBrady
No. What I was saying was that Portland was complaining about Boomers were complaining about the “how players make too much and throw too little innings.”
Since no one had said anything like that, it was a gratuitous insult aimed at the Boomers. So I had to send him back to the basement.
Old York
@Portland Micro-Brewers
Pitchers don’t last very long, indeed. Main reason being that they spend too much time throwing hard instead of smart. I tell my pitchers to work smart on the mound.
This one belongs to the Reds
Work quickly.
Change speeds.
Throw strikes.
Best advice ever from an old pitching coach to my pitchers.
runningwithnailclippers
@TOBTTR: I agree with all that, but I also recommend working quick but intentionally taking more time with certain hitters to get into their heads a bit.
This one belongs to the Reds
Back in my playing days, I loved to get in the hitters heads. I was a catcher who kept a running commentary going with hitter and umpire. Got a few calls for my pitcher sometimes.
TrumboRedux
I used to get so mad when catchers would try and talk to me haha. They were instantly in my head and I was always toast.
runningwithnailclippers
I used to catch and I would sometimes just start talking about their shoes being untied or how hot their mom was. Good times.
JoeBrady
Nothing better than watching smart pitchers changing speed and location.
runningwithnailclippers
I used to love watching when Johnny Cueto was in his prime. Fun to watch him change arm angle, locations, delivery. Good times.
Longtimecoming
Maybe it’s you?
Joel P
I don’t see Snell going to the Yankees. Just doesn’t seem like a Yankee. And they need more of a sure thing. Montgomery makes way more sense imo. Montgomery is a great number 2 starter. Snell is too hit or miss.
oldgfan
Look at his picture.
Can this man afford to shave to become a Yank ? He would end up totally chinless.
HatlessPete
I gotta admit this crosses my mind as a factor too lol. Snell needs to hang on to whatever ounce of swag he can muster.
Joel P
I have seen a couple interviews with Snell and he strikes me as the kind of guy that if he wasn’t playing baseball would be working in a coal mine.
runningwithnailclippers
He does have a weak chin without his facial hair. Some of us just go from jaw right to neck.
carlos15
Of course the Yankees are interested
James Midway
Snell has added value in that he is a great in-game commentator with the broadcast team.
JoeBrady
I assume this is a Boras/Heyman thing? Most of what I’ve read indicates that Snell would like to stay out west.
Salzilla
I loathe Snell, so of course my Yanks will get him. Tis the season.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
You loathe him as a person, a pitcher, everything he stands for?? Harsh words Salzilla, usually you flesh out your arguments more than this.
Salzilla
Sorry, pitcher, mostly. As a fantasy player he gives me agita. A player I’ve learned to stay away from. He also doesn’t seem built for NYC, but who knows. I’ll give the guy this, bouncing back from being putrid for two seasons to Cy Young shows some character, but still.
CaseyAbell
January rolls around and, guess what, Scott Boras uses Jon Heyman to help gin up a bidding war for one of his free agent clients. Boras is a master at this sort of thing, and Heyman is happy to cooperate because now and then he gets a scoop as a result.
slider32
Yanks have enough lefty starting pitching, I would get Clevenger, Stepehnson, and trade for Cabrera.
pounder
Yanks have the 300 mil they supposedly were happy to give to Yamomoto,which means( i guess) they have 300 mil burning a hole in their pockets.Use it to get Bellinger,and another arm,starter or bullpen.
Captainmike1
Getting bellinger would be the most foolish thing the Yanks could ever do
They have two star outfielders almost ready to play in the majors
stymeedone
One of them Stanton?
HatlessPete
Bellinger doesn’t fit their roster construction at this point. Much better use for those $$$ would be pitching rn.
slider32
Only a few of the top 50 highest paid players have won the world series! Forget the money, get the right player!
bbatardo
Rodon 2.o
swanhenge
Came here to post exactly this.
acoss13
I know Jon Heyman is a Boras mouthpiece but this other guy, Andy Martino, does he do work for Boras as well?
spooky
I clicked to just laugh because I knew it would be reported by the Heyman/Boras corporation.
10centBeerNight
NYY need one more big arm to be right there with top of division
stymeedone
NYY need one more RELIABLE arm to be right there with top of division.
Fixed it for you.
DrDan75
If you sign Snell, keep in mind that he typically doesn’t go lights out until June or July. You might wind up with a few shellackings before he comes around and figures it out
JoeBrady
The dude is my fantasy league go-to. I probably traded for him 3-4 times after those ice-cold starts.
Slider_withcheese
Pass on the guy they’ve already left off the playoff roster once and who just got shellacked in the World Series. They know all about Montgomery and if they wanted him back, he would have been back by now. Let some other team sign him. He’s not a big game pitcher
stymeedone
You mean if he wants to come back. Its not the Yankees decision.
Captainmike1
So who do you get
The pitcher with a 1.89 ERA
or the pitcher with a 4.29 ERA
scottn59c
Some days you get one; some days you get the other.
JT70
I don’t think Snell would last in NYY. Seems like some weirdo mix of a Rodon/Sonny Gray situation waiting to happen. Snell is good but inconsistent and that inconsistency is going to drive Yankees fans mad and the media wild. He’ll get 1-2 seasons in before Yankees fans turn on him…and Snell seems like the type who will send it right back to the fans (a la Julius Randle) which will only add more fuel to the fire.
Old York
Snell had a HR-surrendered rate of 2.88% with TBR so that can’t play well for Yankee Stadium.
Rumor Shill
Heyman is such a Boras shill. Making up BS rumors to ratchet up interest in Boras clients. Anytime you see a boras client connected to a NY team (see Bellinger last week with the Mets) you can bet 9 of 10x it’s Jon Heyman.
TrumboRedux
“Rumor Shill.” Love the handle haha
Paleobros
Maybe the Yanks will make an exception and let him keep his soul patch/flavor savor.
acoss13
Not a fan of the clean cut look the Yankees have in place. Just look at Alex Verdugo, he looks like he’s 12 years old with a clean shaven face…
178iq
It’s a massive reason why players don’t want to sign there. It’s why they sign elsewhere often for less money, fact is, no one wants to be told when and how to shave. It’s stupid and costs them dearly.
Dynasty
Do you have any proof that anyone took less money elsewhere due to facial hair? I know you don’t, but figured I’d ask.
cpdpoet
Sarcasm = upvote
Serious post = downvote
stymeedone
There may be a handful of players who over value the whiskers, but to call it massive is humorous.
AirY0rdan
They honestly have the 2 ugliest players in the league in Vedugo and Grisham…
Guayacon
Fire Farhan as soon as posible
oldgfan
Because someone wrote a hearsay article about another team’s possible target ?
NoPlanB
When Big Stein was chief, Snell would’ve already been signed by the Bombers. Signing the reigning NL Cy Young winner would’ve been par for the course. He’d have signed Hader by now too.
CrikesAlready
Are Yankees fans still nasty like the mid 1980s? I would like to know if Snell would feel threatened if he sucked like he normally does between contract years and the fans came down on his a$$…
Snell admitted he was going to actually try to be ready for the season during the 2023 spring training. As usual excuses that it takes him a while to get going every year.
178iq
The Yankees obviously needs someone more consistent than Snell… that being said any pitcher that signs with the Yankees willingly is a gift so, beggars can’t be choosers.
Nick W
I know Cole has had issues with him in the past but if they can get passed it Bauer on a 1 year prove it deal could be a steal.
YanksPhan42
What’s scarier than one Carlos Rodon?
Two.
YanksPhan42
Sign Clevinger and trade for Burnes.
Cashman already told the world he’s all in for this year by trading for Soto. No turning back now.
acoss13
Yankees depleted the farm with the Soto trade. I’m not sure they have what Milwaukee would want for Burnes.
slider32
Yanks have enough right now, Fangraphs has them 3rd in WAR. The addition of Soto and Dougie addressed their biggest weakness.
YanksPhan42
WAR is an utterly useless stat. Yankees need pitching!
stymeedone
OF defense? Just like SDP, Yankees are assembling a group of individual players, rather than a team. The parts just don’t fit. Judge can play CF, but he’s not a centerfielder. The Yankees need reliable innings, and that is not Snell.
YanksPhan42
I agree. I absolutely hate how they’re building this team. It’s all due to Cashman being completely inept and then having to put a band aid on his failures year in and year out.
With a 300m payroll, how can we possibly have one reliable starter???? With the short porch in RF, why the hell did we have to sell the farm for a lefty masher after all of these years?? Just total stupidity.
Nick W
Might be able to get Bieber for lesser prospects. I’m pretty sure he’d be motivated in a prove it year.
Tom the ray fan
Michael Kay already crying over his soul patch
Juggy
I mean, they always use the Yankees scapegoats, especially in a bidding war. But let’s just say the Yankees are interested. It would be a welcomed addition to already formidable staff.
jhomeslice
I don’t see why any team that was legitimately interested in Yamamoto would not be in on Snell, for a lot less money. Snell has had some durability and consistency issues, but won the Cy last year and was good for 180 IP with an ERA in the low 2’s. It is hardly a given that Yamamoto will be THAT much better than Snell for the next couple of years at least. Personally I’d rather have Snell on a 5 year 125M deal than Yamamoto for 12/325 or whatever he got.
Yankees got burned with Rodon, but Snell isn’t in Rodon’s category of bad health. He’s only been below 128 innings in a full season once since 2016, Rodon has only been above 120 twice during the same timeframe. I was only reading Angels and Giants were in on Snell and was like why not the Mets/Yankees if they were heartbroken not to land Yamo?
Dmac13
So I’m a Yankees fan from boston and I’ve seen snell a lot. He is a great pitcher when he wants to be. However if I’m the yankees I want no part of him! Go after a reunion with Monty instead. Not saying snell can’t be good with NY and they may get great results with him being a lefty in yankee stadium but does anyone remember his comments on the shortened season? If you don’t these are his exact words
Y’all gotta understand, man, for me to go — for me to take a pay cut is not happening, because the risk is through the roof,” Snell said while answering questions on his Twitch channel. “It’s a shorter season, less pay. “No, I gotta get my money. I’m not playing unless I get mine, OK?
In a big market with the spotlight on if he turns in a 4 plus Era he won’t make it in NY! In Tampa or SD ok but not NY… doesn’t sound like a team player just my thoughts. I’d rather see Monty or lorenzen
smkelly1970
and in other news… the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
nothing to see here! please disperse!
Mantle536
This would be yet another Moronic move on Cashman’s part, who seems to specialize in Moronic moves, like trading Montgomery for a sub-par & injured CFer.
The last thing the Yankees need is another injury-prone player who, even when healthy, only gives you 5 1/3 innings an outing.
SNELL has STARTED 30+ Games TWICE in 8 YEARS!
MONTGOMERY has STARTED 30+ Games for 5 CONSECUTIVE YEARS!
And MONTGOMERY has Started 32 Games for 4 CONSECUTIVE YEARS!
Only a Moron like Cashman, who is possibly the worst judge of talent in Baseball History, particularly pitching talent, would give Big $ to an injury-prone pitcher who consistently KILLS your bullpen by only going 5 1/3 IP per start.
Moreover, a Big Contract to Snell may preclude signing Soto long term, which would be a Typically Moronic Move by Cashman!
The real Oscar Gamble
He started 32 during covid?
TrillionaireTeamOperator
I am a Yankees fan. I’d prefer a consistent Montgomery over a feast or famine Snell. Snell has two Cy Young’s with high WAR and low ERA in those years, but he has a ton of mediocre to just above replacement level interim seasons. I’ll take a consistent Montgomery over a Snell that will have as many bad years as good years.
They already kinda have that in Rodon. He might bounce back one or two seasons over the next 5 years, but he will also be worthless a good chunk of that time, if not a total bust.
The Yankees do not need two of those types of highly paid starting pitchers earning a combined $56M a season to be a coin toss of productivity or IL disappearing acts or albatrosses who hurt the club when they’re toeing the slab.
If the Yanks could get Snell for like 1 year/$40M w/ a $20M club option that had a $10M buyout attached to a third year $30M club option, etc. I’d take that bet.
But 6-7 years guaranteed feels too risky and I think Snell is a candidate to regress a ton despite just winning the Cy Young.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I’d love the Yankees to overpay him just so he can go 5 innings or less a start.
JerseyShoreScore
I thought Snell went six innings or more in 2/3s of his starts last season?
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Maybe last season but it was a contract year and he hasn’t done it the other years. He’s basically had two good years.
And any way you look at it, he’s only thrown 180 innings twice. Every other year has been under 130 innings. That’s just not acceptable for an “ace” starter.
Mantle536
JerseyShoreScore: Snell averaged 5.6 innings in his 32 starts.
He pitched 180 innings in 2023, which is only the second time he’s pitched more than 130 innings in a season in 8 years!
If he had averaged even 6 IP, he’d have thrown 192 innings, which he didn’t do & never has done.
Snell is a disaster waiting to happen.
Troutahni
Gotta give you Giants fans that post on MLBTR as great fans of your ball club. I love All the 2nd guessing comments and observations about Farhan. I think Giants fans are very underrated when it comes to the national preception over the passion they feel and express for their baseball team.
1984wasntamanual
So Boras has sent Heyman out to hype Snell
AirY0rdan
I have said this so many times… the Yankees are gonna be “intrested” in everyone. This means nothing, wake me up when their getting close
Nick W
I’d prefer a trade for either Burns or Bieber instead of a long term deal for Snell.
Viveleempireevil
Say what you want about Snell but, with the exception of a couple adductor issues, the dude takes the ball. Sure it takes him a hundred pitches to get through the fifth but you cannot question his stuff. Plus, he’s kind of a snarly cat too (which might explain why Cole apparently likes the dude). If I could get him 5 years for $125M? And I don’t have to trade for him? I do it.
JerseyShoreScore
The Yankees continue to ruin baseball with their excessive spending habits…
Mac Attack
What about LA?
Mac Attack
If it wasn’t for my father, a Dodgers fan, we would have been Yankees fans. The Mets suck
yankee766766
Sign Snell and Hader (Hader is a prerequisite in getting Snell)……..here is what that does…It take the onus or pressure off of Snell to throw a lot of innings (or pitch count). With this offense ahead of him he doesnt need to go deep into games….. the bullpen would be the best on the planet…..and I can see games being locked down by 5th or 6th inning. Oh and by the way, NO prospects get moved…….like Spencer jones in particular
gardyparty
I really like Blake Snell, but I don’t think he’d succeed here. I wish I felt otherwise because we could really use the arm.
padam
Almost feels like this is how Rodon became a Yankee. Deja Vu.
TellItGoodbye
Big pass on Snell. The Giants don’t need Zito 2.0
GooseGoslinGuy
Now it’s a headline when a team is merely interested in a guy?? Oh…it’s the Yankees. Well, then, that’s different.