The Dodgers signed NPB star Yoshinobu Yamamoto to a 12-year, $325MM deal that set the record for the largest pitching guarantee. That included a pair of opt-out chances for the 25-year-old righty. He could be in line for an even loftier deal a few years down the line if he continues to perform like a top-of-the-rotation starter against MLB competition.
Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic first reported that Yamamoto would be able to opt out of the contract after the 2029 and ’31 seasons. According to the Associated Press, that’s in part conditional on the pitcher’s arm health in the first six years of the deal. If Yamamoto undergoes Tommy John surgery or spends 134+ consecutive days on the injured list with a right elbow concern between 2024-29, his opt-out chances would be delayed until following the 2031 and ’33 seasons. In the absence of that significant of an elbow injury, he’d be able to opt out after 2029 and ’31 as initially reported.
Interestingly, the contract also includes an opt-out provision designed to keep him from being traded. The AP reports that if the Dodgers trade Yamamoto, that would vest an opt-out clause that’d allow him to become a free agent at the end of that season. While it’s not true no-trade protection, it makes it very difficult to deal him. Any acquiring team would have to account for the possibility that Yamamoto leaves the following winter.
Of course, the Dodgers didn’t sign Yamamoto with any intention of trading him in the foreseeable future. They’re going to be all-in for years to come, likely for the entire duration of Shohei Ohtani’s decade-long contract. Ohtani’s willingness to defer $68MM of his $70MM annual salaries afforded the organization more short-term leeway to acquire and extend Tyler Glasnow and to sign Yamamoto.
Yamamoto’s contract contains a massive $50MM signing bonus. The AP reports that he’ll be paid $20MM by the start of February and the other $30MM by July 1. His annual salary structure breaks down as follows:
- $5MM in 2024
- $10MM in 2025
- $12MM in 2026
- $26MM annually from 2027-29
- $29MM annually from 2030-31
- $28MM annually from 2032-35
He’ll thus be paid $155MM over the next six seasons. If he doesn’t incur a serious elbow injury, he’d be weighing whether to opt out of six years and $170MM once the 2029-30 offseason arrives. Were Yamamoto to suffer an elbow injury within the first six years and opt in after the 2031 and ’33 seasons, the Dodgers receive a $10MM option (no buyout) covering the 2036 season, the AP reports.
The salary breakdown does not affect the contract’s average annual value. The deal counts for approximately $27.08MM each year from a luxury tax perspective. The Dodgers also owe a $50.625MM posting fee to Yamamoto’s former team, the Orix Buffaloes, though that is separate from the CBT calculation.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
I think it makes the Tigers look cheap.
Jm207* 2
Huh?
Yankee Clipper
Wow, what a contract! I assume many top FA will ask for a similar FA clause in their co tract should they be traded; or perhaps an opt-out at the end of the season in which they’re traded.
So, if he’s injured the LAD keep him…. You’d think if he injured his elbow they’d be allowed to invoke a clause that would make him a FA (similar to a non-tender).
It is wise, however, to structure long-term pitching contracts around arm health and I’m surprised it’s not done more often, given the frequency of elbow injuries.
Nonetheless, it’s a really interesting contract structure for sure.
The real Oscar Gamble
Players are too strong to allow the teams to get out of a deal due to injury.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, I agree, the MLBPA would never allow that to happen.
DeferredFan
No, but there is often language that allows teams to add a year for cheap if a requisite number of innings isn’t met. I believe the Dodgers have Treinen for another year at something like $1 million because he didn’t reach a certain number of innings.
baseballteam
Yes, also the Red Sox invoked such a clause with John Lackey a decade ago.
YankeesBleacherCreature
It’s definitely creative.
Cashman has seven weeks until ST begins to convince the Dodgers to trade him to the Yankees! It’s the only way to justify the Soto trade.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, I think the Yankees were too cocky about their ability to get him, which is why they offered him a similar contract – they thought they had the advantage over LAD.
Nonetheless, if Cashman doesn’t pull a rabbit out of his hat, the Yankees are destined to be playoff ‘ exit team again the season. We definitely need pitching. Usually our strength, I think some key reinforcements are necessary.
YankeesBleacherCreature
I posted a response to you in another thread earlier today:
“@Clip I think there may be another trade coming for a lower-tier SP who can give innings or perhaps signing Imanaga? Don’t see them in on Snell or Monty. And they’ll probably stick with Holmes as closer. I see them feeling out Rodon until the deadline before making a significant move for a SP if necessary. The outfield and infield are set. Cashman can’t be comfortable with Oswaldo Cabrera and Trent Grisham off the bench with no power. So there will probably the likes of a Cordero and Bauers competing in ST. There also needs to be a contingency plan if Stanton has actually became a pumpkin.”
Yankee Clipper
The biggest problem the Yankees have (every offseason) is one that Cashman created with his perpetually poor roster construction decisions via the analytical nerds. He keeps himself in his own roster prison, and ironically, he has the keys to get out of it. It’s like a form of Stockholm Syndrome.
YankeesBleacherCreature
I don’t complain about him often but assembling a bench has never been his strength even during the dynasty years. Those lineups back then were strong enough to withstand the injury hits.
gardyparty
I think we need like four pitchers, not one. I have no faith in Nestor or Rodon staying healthy, and we don’t have much else behind Cole and Clarke. King, Brito, German, and Vasquez combined for a lot of starts in 2023, and at this point last year we also had Montas penciled in. I don’t know what the plan was after acquiring Soto, but it seems like something went askew because our pitching is thin at best, and there’s not much available out there.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
I think Marcus Stroman would be a good “buy-low” candidate for the Yanks. Do you remember how well he was pitching before he got hurt last season? He was on fire in Chicago. If he’s healthy , could be a sneaky good signing.
YankeesBleacherCreature
@gardy That’s the reason I’m advocating to acquire a low-ceiling, high-floor innings eater. If Cole and/or Schmidt misses time, the bullpen will be over-taxed.
@Isoab mentioned Stroman but he doesn’t fit that bill bc of his healthy history. So much of next season hinges on the performances/health of Rodon and Stanton while they’re both untradeable. I’m assuming Nestor will be fine. The more I think about it, the more I think they should sign Imanaga. The plan after Soto was to sign Yama but nobody knows what their plan B is.
The real Oscar Gamble
Hey creature would you do a deal of stanton for Rendon straight up?
The real Oscar Gamble
Clipper, I just asked the Creature so I will ask you also. Would you do stanton for Rendon straight up?
gardyparty
You’re not asking me, but I think you accidentally replied to me, so I will tell you, I would definitely not trade Stanton for Rendon. Stanton is an absolute beast when healthy. Rodon is basically retired already, he’s just showing up at the park to pick up his checks.
The real Oscar Gamble
Sorry I hit the wrong button but thanks for answering. I don’t know enough about Rendon I just know I stopped hearing his name after he signed the deal. I know stanton can rake when he’s right, hell I wondered what the call would be if he hit the ball through the green monster. I’m just afraid he is a .200 hitter and that $hi+ drives me nuts!
Yankee Clipper
Oscar: I agree with Gardy. Stanton is injured a lot, but I still have hope for him. When healthy he can carry a team. Rendon cannot, imho. Stanton’s health does appear to be declining each season though.
YankeesBleacherCreature
@Oscar Probably not. Stanton is still motivated to play while trying his best and is a good teammate. I’m low on Stanton bc he didn’t hit last season even when he was healthy. Rendon has been prett much out of action the last few seasons. Who knows what his once excellent defense has become now.
The real Oscar Gamble
Thanks for your opinions. I read something about him, Rendon, the other day and I was curious as to whether the 2 contracts were similar. I think Rendon is actually owed a bit more.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Rendon makes a higher salary. The Yankees also have future money coming in from the Marlins to offset Stanton’s pay as part of their trade agreement. While it doesn’t the team with payroll luxury taxes, it is money they don’t have to pay out to him. If there were to be a swap of players, that Marlins money would go to the Angels.
craigin805
What’s the difference between what’s reported and paying him 55M in 2024?
DeferredFan
$50 million is a bonus. $5 million is salary. A bonus is taxed differently.
craigin805
“Taxed” ~ luxury tax?
The tax to the US Gov’t wouldn’t make a difference. whether it’s a bonus or the salary at filing time.
reflect
It does make a difference because the signing bonus was earned in 2023 when the deal was signed. And when the deal was signed, he did not live in California. Regular salary would be earned in August… presumably at that point he would presumably live in CA, or trigger state tax laws based on X number of work days in California.
Tldr it makes no difference for federal tax but can make a big difference for state tax.
ExileInLA 2
And remember they are paying g the posting fee in 2024 – so YY is costing the LAD over $106mm in 2024.
towinagain
Ok.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Over/Under 65% chance Yoshi has TJS within 4 seasons.
acoss13
I think 4 seasons is fair. That’s a lot of torque for a smaller pitching frame. Then again he might prolong it with periodic “IL” stints by another year if the Dodgers strength and conditioning physicians monitor his body.
longines64
I look at him and see Tim Lincecum
mlbdodgerfan2015
I think Yamamoto could project out to Pedro Martinez when it comes to avoiding major injuries during his peak. Pedro was only an inch taller and far skinnier than Yamamoto and never had TJS. He was very healthy. I think he had rotator cuff inflammation when he was 29 in 2001 season but still able to make 18 starts that season. Pedro also threw harder than Yamamoto. We’ll see, a lot of pitchers get hurt these days. Hopefully that won’t happen to Yamamoto and with less frequency for Glasnow going forward.
Anthony maresca
If the Dodgers stay true to their word that they will use a 6 man rotation that will benefit both Ohtani and Yamamoto as well as Glasnow and Buehler who are coming off TJ surgeries of their own. Personally with the cost of starting pitching today every mlb player should adopt to a 6 man rotation
good vibes only
That would just continue to drive the cost of starting pitching up. There’s are reason only a small handful of teams are using one. It’s very difficult to field one successfully.
whyhayzee
I think if you go to a six man rotation, you might ask your starters to go longer per start. Even one more inning saves your bullpen.
DroppedThirdStrike
More spot starts, bulk innings, swing men, and bullpen games. If you like that kind of thing
Ronk325
There’s a simple explanation for teams not using 6 man rotations. It’s hard enough to find 5 reliable SPs these days. Finding 6 is damn near impossible
YankeesBleacherCreature
@ronk325 Then the performance bar just gets lowered for starting pitchers and overall offense goes up. Manfred makes more changes to the baseball again to deaden it and then all is well.
Ronk325
That’s a possibility. It’s also possible that this is just the way things will be going forward. I don’t think we’ll see pitchers suddenly move away from the max velocity craze that has taken over so injuries will continue to be common. I think multi inning relievers are going to continue to grow in popularity to counteract the lesser workloads of starters
YankeesBleacherCreature
Agreed. That and spin rates. I don’t expect to see a league-wide adoption of a six-man rotation any time soon. If it gains traction, MLB will need to expand the current 26-man roster limit.
mlbdodgerfan2015
The #6 starter can swing from SP and long relief. With off days you can juggle that 6 man rotation. If you have some younger guys in the backend of rotation it can be done with some $ savings. Sure, you’d need to consider the potential dilution of talent by going 6 man rotation. That said, the way pitchers get hurt these days, you need to have at least a couple of SP options in minors and another SP arm in the rotation or bullpen to fill in for injuries. Six man rotation means they’re already ready and stretched out.
The Ghost of Bobby Bonilla
Cleveland says we’ll find 12.
tonyinsingapore
Even in MLB, teams used to designate a veteran as the Sunday pitcher. I believe Tom Seaver finished his career this way….
Shadow_Banned
That’s how you orchestrate a ducking contract.
Neon Cop
We simply do not care…
vivalosdoyers
Why are you here?
Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee
Unfortunately, you care too much. The Dodgers are just an entertainment franchise, and they make your backside hurt so much over nothing. Your obsession is peculiar….
UncommonSense
Hahahaha, you care, we all know it
aaronharper
The Dodgers are MORONS. Spent a cool billion this offseason on a guy who’s never pitched in the major leagues and a guy who’s averaged like 60 innings pitched in his 20’s and people expect him to throw more in his 30’s? Not going to happen. I love a $700 mil DH. The Diamondbacks are a superior organization and will do more with less over the next decade.
DroppedThirdStrike
There’s a lot of people who think that, and they’re all wrong.
Jabronie23
Considering the level of competition in acquiring Yamamoto, clearly a bunch of people far more knowledge than you are confident he’ll succeed in the majors. As for Ohtani, there’s a pretty high chance he’ll pitch again in some capacity. If not, he has the arm and speed for the outfield. And besides, the Dodgers are going to make a ton of money through Japanese steaming services. They’re going to dominate the Japanese market for maybe decades to come
deGrom/Langford Texas Ranger
“A bunch of people with far more knowledge than you” from 29 teams are confident he won’t be worth as much as the Dodgers’ guys think. That’s much more relevant here. 25-27 teams weren’t close to valuing him in the same ballpark of 12/325 with 6 and 8 year opt outs.
VincentChase
Well, technically, they COMMITTED a cool billion over the course of a very long time. They actually will only be spending a fraction of that over the course of this season and they are currently below many teams in overall payroll ATM.
But, to your point, it won’t matter if they don’t win in October. They will need, among others, Freddie and Mookie to step up come playoff time.
toptimrubies
They’re truly clueless. They should hire somebody that actually knows how to build a successful MLB team each season while maintaining a top farm system with an ownership group that manages 300 billion dollars in investment money. Somebody like aaronharper could probably do that pretty easily.
aaronharper
Right. They are great at managing things. I like how they managed to increase the price of a hot dog to $21.
I wonder what the price of a hot dog will be at dodger stadium in 2043 when they are still paying Ohtani $70MM a year.
Maybe by then everyone else would have already moved to Texas from Los Angeles because they can’t afford it, and they can move the Dodgers to Austin to fill the seats again. Austin Dodgers sounds weird, but ok.
UncommonSense
If only I was that big a moron, I would be so happy
Frenchredsox
They’re far from MORONS they’re actually very very smart! They PROMISED $700 million but are paying $2 million a year during Ohtani’s peak years . That’s not moronic that genius ( how much sales revenue will they recoup in 1 year?) What is moronic is the deferral “loop hole” which allows a multi-billion company to kick the payment 20-30 years down the road WITHOUT any real cost to either party. Every MLB could have paid 2 million (from petty cash) to get that DH gold mine even Nutting.
The Yamamoto deal is riskier but even that due to better tape,scouting and knowledge isn’t too risky as multiple NPB pitchers’ have successfully transitioned and this guy is only 25 and has dominated every year.
The Rays dominate using one method , the Dodgers using another – both are elite run organizations.
aaronharper
Do you work for a credit card company? A payday lender? Maybe a student loan deferral service?
toptimrubies
Hot dogs are not $21. You can’t just make things up and base an argument on a lie.
aaronharper
The going yard dog is indeed $21. Doesn’t even come with a drink. Find it Field 10, Loge 133 and reserve 4.
I’m saying they have the first $50 hotdog. I have 5 kids. A day at the ballpark not even counting tickets is $350. Yay.
aaronharper
Maybe me and my wife could split one and get it down to an even $300
toptimrubies
You’re really going to hate the $30 mega hot dog you can get at Chase Field then. Maybe the DBacks will have to join the Dodgers when they move to TX.
TrumboRedux
People that are ragging on the Dodgers, saying that they are going to implode in the 1st round of playoffs, will undoubtedly be changing their tune if they go all the way…It will be something akin to: “OF COURSE THEY WON! They bought everything! They bought the whole Worls Series!” I would prefer people side with one or the other…Either they are prime choke artists who couldn’t buy a contending team if they tried, or that they should already be awarded the the trophy and have their WS bonuses dispersed early…Which one is it people?
paddyo furnichuh
Both!
Depending upon circumstances and the herd’s attention to “this is bad for baseball” mentally lazy platitudes that exude from folks like Chris Russo.
Frenchredsox
US sports have this “unusual” system of not rewarding the best . You win your Division/League but have to play more knockout games after. It’s great entertainment and maintains interest but doesn’t reward the BEST team. Before, it made sense when there was limited winners – now depending on roster size it can be a deterrent to spending evenly . Basketball with smaller rosters usually rewards the best constructed roster but large roster sports where you have pick and choose who to spend on becomes luck (injury and form) based. Personally I would like 2 awards – League Champs and Cup Champs (playoff winners) but with expanded playoffs you can’t guarantee the title anymore
NoNeckWilliams
The opt-out clauses should work both ways. Owners should be allowed to act as fiduciaries for the fans’ money.
Manfred’s playing with the balls
They do work both ways. Are you unaware of how negotiations go? No one is forcing GM’s to sign these guys to deals without team options.
NoNeckWilliams
“No one is forcing GM’s to sign these guys to deals without team options.”
Apparently, you’ve never listened to sports talk radio.
Players are paid with the fans’ money through the owners… most GMs are pawns.
WideWorldofSports
This contract will be a ducking bust
oldgfan
Bucking Fust for the Ducking Fodgers ?
paddyo furnichuh
Drolly Todgers is the key spoonerism to remember here
Jabronie23
How do you know?
UncommonSense
A ducking bust like Dolly Parton?
Benjamin101677
So we know this the Dodgers have a huge X on their backs. Every National League team going be trying to knock them out. Every series they are going get the best pitchers etc even with teams that are non playoff bound for bragging rights.
If the dodgers don’t get 2-3 World Series wins and dominate runs into the post season they are going be destroyed in the media. This kinda of team without post season winning is what gets the manager and general managers fired.
Looking back at last few years of post season funny that the Braves in 2021 was the worst team on record of any of their stocked teams and they won it all that year. So anything could happen.
That being said I would for sure that the dodgers as a whole with their team as being the team to beat but they have to show up and play without any mistakes.
TrumboRedux
Winning 1 World Series can carry a team a long way. If they get 2 within 10 years, and have a few good playoff runs in between, I would be mighty satisfied! I am a Halo fan as well, and if they got 1 title, I would never ask for another one again from them at this point. And I bet 1 would be more than enough for Trout. If Trout never gets a ring, or even appears in a WS for that matter, I guarantee when he is through that he will say he has 0 regrets staying with them!
Benjamin101677
1 World Series ring with a billion dollars plus spent is probably not worth it.
TrumboRedux
Ok then. 2 rings.
TrumboRedux
Dodgers 2024 & 2026, Yankees 2025.
Manfred’s playing with the balls
People have been saying this about the dodgers since 2012. The media and fans can say whatever they want but the dodgers are the most successful baseball team of the last decade.
You think Friedman and Roberts are in danger if they keep winning 100 wins and 2nd round exits? Dodgers owners don’t seem to agree
TrumboRedux
Stlfan, I am on your side…But Roberts and Friedmans head(s) could roll at anytime. There is no such thing as job security in baseball. Unless you are Brian Cashman.
PKCasimir
In the last decade the Red Sox and Astros have won two World Series Titles each. The Dodgers won one COVID title. If the objective is to win the World Series, the Dodgers are not the most successful team of the last decade.
TrumboRedux
Astros are the most successful.
Sabermetric Acolyte
Except no team thinks that way. Only fans do. Teams aren’t going to change their rotations around with the thought of “Hey we have to beat the Dodgers today.” At least not until September when someone is potentially playoff bound. It’s a 162-game schedule for a reason. It’s a marathon, not a sprint.
Also you said it already. Which team represented the National League last year in the World Series? Not the Dodgers or the massively expensive Mets…. the Diamondbacks. A team that was paid $100M less than the Dodgers and about a third of the Mets team salary. The Dodgers have a solid team on paper, but it’s a long season. Craziness WILL happen.
Frenchredsox
Actually the Dodgers SHOULDNT be the target of the media – it should be MLB/Manfred for 2 reasons : 1/ allowing the “deferral” loop hole allowing any team to pay 90%+ in 2050 or whenever. Obtain in real terms is costing $2 million so every team should have been in on him but couldn’t/wouldn’t defer that amount & 2/ if the MLBs goal is a parity league then it should set a hard cap at top and bottom but it won’t .
So you will always have Dodgers,Mets,Yankees spending 2/3x the Rays or the Pirates. It’s not the Dodgers’ fault they NOW know how to play the system just wish my Red Sox would … but they haven’t since Henry and Co are more into Golf acquisition and soccer ..
unpaidobserver
*Reaches a hand above a pile of rubble in postapocalyptic future*
“We have Yamamato for an extra three years!”
aragon
Yokohama Dodgers!
Benjamin101677
Am I the only one who wonders for the billion dollars plus that the dodgers spent are they that much better than the Braves are the Phillies. I am a huge Braves fans but I don’t know if in a 7 game series for all the dodgers spending if they have a huge edge. Sure; I think the dodgers are going make huge money on jerseys and tickets but not sure if they will be last time standing in October.
On paper the 2021 Braves were the worst record of all the teams the Braves took to the post season yet they won it all.
The 1990s dominate Braves teams with 3 hall of fame pitchers only got 1 World Series championship. That was before the additional round of playoffs too
Think the dodgers could be in for some disappointments.
Old York
Here’s my predictions for his first season in MLB.
K%: 27%
BB%: 7%
ERA: 3.00
FIP: 3.22
deGrom/Langford Texas Ranger
That is 6 years and 206 million with the full posting fee if he opts out (34 million) if the posting fee is not dependent on him opting out. The posting fee should change if he does, but I am not sure it does.
Phree4u
Nope. Posting fee is paid on the contract total assuming it goes to fruition.
Even if the opt out was after year 1 and YY exercised it, the dodgers pay it and never see it again.
deGrom/Langford Texas Ranger
I also heard bonuses do increase the posting fee somehow. It’s a weird 1-way system.
RobM
Unless Yamamoto is still pitching at prime Kershaw level after six seasons, I’m sure they’ll be fine if they get six very good years from him during his age 25-30 seasons, and then he tests the market again. The two sides can re-up, or the Dodgers can take comfort having what will almost assuredly have been Yamamoto’s best years.
grandsalametime
As a Giants fan, I still keep thinking that for all the money the Dodgers spent, they haven’t bought a championship. At least I hope not.
holycow16
Brilliant accounting move by the Dodgers.
178iq
He’s not going to have the same success in MLB. Showtime just had his surgery- these guys usually break down quick. And their returns are , well we shall see.