Before Jordan Hicks signed with the Giants last week, the right-hander and the Phillies shared some “mutual interest,” according to The Athletic’s Matt Gelb. The extent of the talks between the two sides isn’t known, or if the Phils offered Hicks anything in the ballpark of the four years and $44MM he received from San Francisco. However, Gelb notes that “the Phillies viewed Hicks as a reliever,” which might have been a difference-maker since the Giants plan to give Hicks a chance to stick as a starting pitcher.
The hard-throwing Hicks might have stepped right into the closer’s job in Philly, or at least joined Jose Alvarado, Gregory Soto and Jeff Hoffman in the late-game mix now that Craig Kimbrel has left for the Orioles in free agency. It isn’t a secret that Philadelphia has been looking for bullpen help, and while president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski has stated that further offseason additions would come “more around the edges” of the roster, the Phils’ pursuits of Hicks and (before he joined the Angels) Robert Stephenson indicate that the club is still prepared to make a significant financial outlay on a possible upgrade.
As much as the Phillies would like to more options to both the rotation and relief corps, however, they’re in something of a Catch-22 situation of having too much pitching depth to acquire more pitching depth. Philadelphia’s starting five of Zack Wheeler, Aaron Nola, Ranger Suarez, Taijuan Walker, and Cristopher Sanchez is set, and while the Phillies might want to add a more experienced depth arm in front of Dylan Covey or Nick Nelson, such available pitchers might seek out a team with a more clear-cut opportunity for innings.
“I’ve got a list of names and all that,” Dombrowski told Scott Lauber of the Philadelphia Inquirer. “Once they get done with [holding out for] the promised spot in the rotation with another club, then they can start looking and say, ’Hey, maybe they don’t have a lot of depth over there, so maybe that’s an opportunity to go to Triple-A and be in that spot.’ “
Lauber’s broader piece focuses on the Phillies’ efforts to keep their pitchers healthy, including some changes to the front office and organizational structure during Dombrowski’s three-plus years as PBO. These changes included the hiring of Brian Kaplan as the Phils’ director of pitching in 2022, some new hires on the strength and conditioning staff, and a more streamlined training and communication process between players, coaches, and trainers at both the Major League and minor league levels.
The results were apparent last season, as the Phillies enjoyed an unusual amount of both quality and good health from their rotation. Philadelphia starters ranked first in baseball in fWAR (17.7) and third (899) in innings thrown by starting pitchers, despite something of a revolving door with the fifth starter position before Sanchez stabilized things. Of course, durability is no guarantee from one season to the next, so the Phillies want to be prepared in the likely event that the rotation simply won’t be as healthy as it was in 2023.
There is also an analytical element to the Phillies’ success in both keeping pitchers on the mound and in helping them achieve new levels of success, and this is the department of assistant GM Ani Kilambi. The Philadelphia Inquirer’s Alex Coffey recently profiled the 29-year-old Kilambi, who was hired just over two years ago out of the Rays’ front office to bolster and modernize the Phillies’ rather understaffed research and development team.
“[Kilambi has] done a fantastic job of providing resources to understand how we get the most out of our players,” pitching coach Caleb Cotham said. “It could be pitch usage, it could be biomechanics, it could be how they think. It’s about giving us, as coaches, more tools to make a connection with a pitcher.”
BaseballisLife
Analytics works.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Analytics do work, but haven’t made the game of baseball better. Analytics have solved baseball like a math problem, but in certain instances have made it less enjoyable to watch.
That said, when I was your age everything cost a nickel, and you kids get the hell of my lawn!
BaseballisLife
In most instances they have made the game better because we get to see the players performing at their best. Better than they could do without them.
Bart Harley Jarvis
I agree with some of what you say, but watching so, so, so many batters walking back to the dugout after striking out really chaps this old man’s ass. Now get off of my lawn!
TrumboRedux
Bart, when I used to play me some ball, I equated striking out with death. I died a little everytime I walked back to that dugout after K’ing. I could never talk myself into accepting it. It was a death strike everytime to me. Luckily I didn’t do it often.
David Kupsick
Stop watering my grass!!
It’s about match ups…
Bart Harley Jarvis
But we could all use a lot more bats and balls matching up.
I digress, but did you know that a Hershey Bar used to cost 5¢?
dmbphils27
Cmon Dombo make a move!
Johnny Devil
Dumbrowski locked himself into some horrendous contracts and is looking at both his bullpen and rotation with Stevie wonder eyes.
Crash_n_burn
Ryu would be a fit on almost any contender. Including the Phillies. But l don’t know if he would be ok coming out of the bullpen. Maybe he can bump someone else to the pen?
DarkSide830
I bet he wouldn’t but I’d love to see him at Lehigh.
Bill the Cat
Umm…..huh??? Hicks signed with SF dude.
rememberthecoop
But he didn’t choose Philly, so what’s your point?
Bill the Cat
@ davey gee – you have to understand two things. #1 – written sarcasm doesn’t always come across like spoken sarcasm. It doesn’t translate well at times. #2 – it isn’t uncommon to see comments posted here from people who don’t closely follow all MLB moves and post comments without actually reading the article. That’s how I interpreted your comment. Cool off. Nobody was attacking you or insulting you.
Bill the Cat
My apologies Davey. You’re right and everyone else is wrong. I should have known better than to doubt someone who’s social skills appeared to be poor on the surface, but since you are consumed with calling people dumb, calling them idiots and clowns, and referring to others as girls (misogynistic), I have now seen the error of my ways. We’re all just dumb and idiotic female clowns. Thanks for putting us in our place brah…..
stymeedone
My thought was anyone who was confused enough to get it backward should be running for office.
Bill the Cat
Yawn…..
Murphy NFLD
Ive been saying all off season i want the jays to trade for Nick Castellanos. Philly fans, is there a deal were the philly trade Nick and 10-12M for a jays bullpen arm and maybe a bullpen prospect like Zulueta whos in AAA and on the cusp of the MLB and throws 98-100? Maybe Yimi Garcia or Trevor Richards + Zulueta for Nick Castellanos and 12M
cpdpoet
Not a castellanos apologizer (sp?) by any stretch and the Phils could use some b-pen help. But the Phils have no one to replace his 30hr / 100rbi / 150+ games of “decent” play in RF. I mean no one….
Plus he’s making 20mil and you offer they kick in 10-12? Not a front office guy and some casty haters will jump all over a play like this, but it doesn’t make a ton of sense w/o an offensive replacement?
Murphy NFLD
So I’m reading that the phillys want to get ride of 1 of there 1b/DH type bats as they have at least Schwarber, Harper and Nick best suited there. Nick has 3 years and 60M left and I’m suggesting they pay it down to 48-50M over 3 years. I also read they would like to get out from under his contract while he still has value. I’m not sure some of the end stuff there that’s y I asked Philly fans but if they need bullpen arms and would like to shed 48M+ of his deal this seems to work. The jays just exercised greens option and traded for varsho even tho that was a bad deal and they are looking for a Dh who can play 50-70 games in the grass not a full time OF so the deal below doesn’t really work
609Collectibles
A. Manoah SP
D. Varsho RF
C. Green RP
For
N. Castellanos RF
D. Hall 1B
N. Nelson RHP
M. Ottenbriet RHP
Salaries cancel out. You get your RF, lefty power DH/1B and rid yourself of your worst contract (Green/10mil).
Then the Phils sign Adam Duvall to platoon with Varsho and give Bryce at break at 1B once in a while. Could go to a 6 man rotation to keep everyone fresh and healthy for the postseason.
DarkSide830
Makes the Phillies OF a little light on the offense side. Not that the deal is bad, but I’m not sure how much it moves the needle.
Bob Evans down on UR mom
No.
609Collectibles
Sign Carlos Carrasco, James Kaprielian, Justus Sheffield to minor league deals. If you look at the Iron Pigs rotation last year, you see guys who shouldn’t even be in AAA. You pair those 3 with McGarry, Abel & McGowan and see what they can do at AAA with 3 veterans showing them the ropes. If and when a roster spot is needed for the rotation, DFA Mercado, Ortiz, Covey or Nelson and you have 5 or 6 decent options to choose from.
They should trim the fat from their roster and turn it into a RH bullpen arm, in my opinion.
AM21
Losing Kimbrel instantly upgraded the bullpen.
PhilliesFan91
That’s true but not replacing him with somebody better isn’t a true upgrade
AM21
Addition by subtraction.
They’ll be fine.
VonPurpleHayes
Kimbrel was really solid outside of the NLCS. So losing him actually hurts.
AM21
Kimbrel was almost brilliant pre-ASG then came crashing back to reality. Much of this was probably due to overuse. He hadn’t been worked nearly that hard since 2011 and suffice to say he was a lot younger then.
libertybell444
Trevor Bauer would be a nice addition.
VonPurpleHayes
No one is signing Bauer in 2024.
Bob Evans down on UR mom
Hicks ONLY signed with SF because they offered him a chance NO OTHER TEAM was going to offer and that was the chance to start. Yes, still nobody wants to actually play in SF unless there is really something in it for them.