The Mets are telling teams they’re open to dealing Omar Narváez, tweets Mike Puma of the New York Post. It’s unclear whether any clubs are interested in the left-handed hitting catcher, although the Mets would very likely have to pay down some portion of his contract to facilitate a move.
It’s the second straight offseason in which New York is looking to move a veteran catcher fairly early into a free agent deal. The Mets surprisingly guaranteed Narváez $15MM over two seasons. He made $8MM last year and had a $7MM player option for 2024. The Narváez pickup led the Mets to cut bait on James McCann two seasons into a four-year, $40MM pact. New York paid all but $5MM of the $24MM remaining on McCann’s deal to offload him to the Orioles.
The Narváez signing wasn’t as costly as the McCann acquisition. It started similarly poorly, however. Narváez suffered a significant strain of his left calf within the season’s first two weeks. He was sidelined into June. By the time he returned, rookie Francisco Álvarez had taken over as the starter. Narváez was pushed into a depth role and didn’t perform well.
In 49 games, Narváez hit .211/.283/.297 with a pair of home runs. That’s on the heels of a similarly underwhelming .206/.292/.305 line in 296 plate appearances for the Brewers in 2022. Narváez had a solid ’21 campaign (.266/.342/.402 over 445 trips to the plate) but has been a well below-average hitter in three of the past four seasons. It’s a notable step back from 2017-19, when Narváez was somewhat quietly one of the better offensive catchers in MLB.
To his credit, the eight-year veteran has generally improved behind the plate as his numbers at the dish have regressed. Statcast graded Narváez as an above-average pitch framer each season from 2020-22. That reflected a seemingly concerted effort to improve his receiving after being traded from the Mariners to Milwaukee going into the 2020 season. Narváez has never had a great throwing arm, though, which opponents exploited with more favorable baserunning rules last year. He threw out only six of 52 stolen base attempts, an 11.5% success rate that was well off the 19.8% league average.
Between the calf injury and a replacement-level performance, Narváez had an easy decision to exercise his player option. While his path to playing time in Queens is limited, he wouldn’t have found a $7MM contract if he returned to free agency. It’s hard to envision another team taking the full salary in trade either, but the Mets haven’t had many qualms about paying down contracts. They’ve done so with back-of-the-roster players like McCann and Eduardo Escobar and in blockbuster transactions involving Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander.
President of baseball operations David Stearns wasn’t involved in the decision to sign Narváez, although he’s familiar with the player from their time in Milwaukee. One of Stearns’ first moves with the Mets was to claim Tyler Heineman off waivers from the Blue Jays. He joins Álvarez and Narváez as the three catchers on the 40-man roster.
Tomás Nido, who has played parts of seven MLB seasons as a Met, remains in the organization after being outrighted in June (a move that coincided with Narváez’s return from the calf strain). Nido hit .281/.336/.393 in 39 games at Triple-A Syracuse after clearing waivers. He’ll make $2.1MM next season as part of a two-year deal he signed to avoid arbitration last offseason.
getrealgone2
Lotsa luck
Mac Attack
Agreed. Who wants this bum? Although he may hit 200 with his next team.
NoNeckWilliams
I only mention this because both Narvaez and McCann played for the White Sox.. Grandal may be the worst everyday two-way catcher of all-time.
gbs42
Grandal was a very solid hitter and fielder for several seasons.
NoNeckWilliams
Drawing walks doesn’t make one a “solid hitter”.
The past few years, he was the worst defensive catcher in baseball, couldn’t hit and couldn’t outrun Reinsdorf.
gbs42
Drawing walks = avoiding outs, which is a key aspect of hitting.
gbs42
Sure, the last few years have been rough for Grandal, but said he “may be the worst everyday two-way catcher of all time,” which is far from accurate. For his career, he’s been very good.
filihok
NNW
“only mention this because both Narvaez and McCann played for the White Sox.. Grandal may be the worst everyday two-way catcher of all-time.”
That is a pretty terrible taek
NoNeckWilliams
Sorry I hurt your feelings.
stymeedone
You hurt Gary Sanchez’ feelings.
Seamaholic
Whoa … you mixing Grandal up with someone?
YankeesBleacherCreature
If Yasmani Grandal retired today, his 37.4 fWAR would tie him for 35th place of all-time among past and present catchers.
filihok
YBC
“35th place
35th best? Or 1st worst?
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Roll
glad you think Nido is in the top 34 of catchers .. that extension doesnt feel so bad now. Cant be worse than 1st worst
NoNeckWilliams
All that proves is that WAR is a joke.
filihok
NNW
“All that proves is that WAR is a joke”
There is ample proof that it is not
For example,
beyondtheboxscore.com/2018/12/26/18155292/correlat…
“The graph that you see here is the correlation between team wins and WAR wins.
…
As you can see, however, team wins and WAR wins are strongly correlated (R-squared value of 0.86). The line of best fit is y = 1.06 x – 4.61. So, if your team is projected to produce 100 “WAR wins” (47.628 + 52.372 WAR), they would be expected to win about 101 games. While the correlation does create some variance, the line of best fit demonstrates that the ratio of WAR to wins is pretty close to one-to-one, on average”
Of course, understanding this requires like a high school level understanding of math. So, perhaps it is over your head
stymeedone
Its nice to know it correlates to team wins. No one was talking about team wins. The discussion was how it applied to a singular players performance. In this case, Grandal. It was a good answer, just to a different question.
filihok
stymee
“Its nice to know it correlates to team wins. No one was talking about team wins. The discussion was how it applied to a singular players performance. In this case, Grandal. It was a good answer, just to a different question.”
You might be surprised ro learn that WAR, in fact, measures a single player’s performance.
gbs42
NoNeck, if you choose to deny the fact that WAR is a very good – but imperfect – way to evaluate players, that’s up to you.
filihok
gbs
“NoNeck, if you choose to deny the fact that WAR is a very good – but imperfect – way to evaluate players, that’s up to you.”
They are ignoring it because they don’t understand it.
When one’s ability to understand mathematical concepts ends at the middle school level it’s hard to accept anything beyond that
Melchez17
WAR is a joke… give me a pitcher with lots of wins and batters with a great batting average every day.
YankeesBleacherCreature
@filihok That’s OK if folks choose to ignore WAR. Can we tone down the personal insults bc that doesn’t help advance the discussion ever?
gbs42
Melchez17, evaluating pitchers using wins, which is largely a team stat, and hitters using BA, which is severely lacking in reflecting hitting talent, obviously is your choice. But there’s no need to call WAR a joke, because it’s a much better tool to evaluate performance.
filihok
YBC
“Can we tone down the personal insults ”
What personal insult? Saying that people who say “WAR is useless” have no understanding of it or the realativeky simple mathematics that show it works?
If it weren’t true, I wouldn’t say it.
It’s not great when saying the truth is looked at more harshly than saying something false
Superstar Prospect Wander Javier
Did you just start watching baseball 2 years ago?
filihok
SPWJ
“Did you just start watching baseball 2 years ago?”
They obviously didn’t watch during the Ryan Doumit era
That’s the problem with these stat-heads. They just look at numbers. Since they’re were no good defensive metrics für catchers back then they don’t know how bad so many catchers actually were
dugmet
Nido had a nice 2022 season. It will probably go down as the best year of his career. I like the guy, but he’s not really a good #2 option at C on the depth chart.
Gomez Toth
Poor Nido. His career path was absolutely ruined by the Mets, who called him up far too early. With the sort-of exception of last year (as a 29 year old) he has never had any significant time at the AAA level. A full year at AAA five or six years ago, and perhaps, maybe, he might have learned how to hit, Its probably too late in the game now, but I’d be happy to see him bounce back.
Tacoshells
Lol. Yeah of course. But no one is willing to trade for her
soxshortstop
Yawnnnn!!!!
Doug
So they can pay the Orioles for McCann
and someone to unload Navaez on?
10centBeerNight
NYM have shown unique willingness to eat money for a more favorable return. A cheap (free?) Narvaez could possibly net a lottery ticket return. The very young SS they received for Pham is rocketing up their prospect ranking. You just never know.
BrianStrowman9
Pham was actually good and useful. This will be like James McCann all over again.
They should’ve just kept James.
raisinsss
They flipped the Escobar return into Taylor and houser.
RabbiLiposky
This is maybe the funniest story ever. I can just imagine Moneybags Stevie sitting in his Point72 office, outraged that nobody wants to take Narváez off his hands at $7 million.
Stevie and Hold My Drink Tepper – hedge fund putzes who will never win titles…
carlos15
Cohen has owned the Mets for 3 seasons. Tepper has owned the Panthers for 5. I think the never win titles comment is a little premature.
RabbiLiposky
Yeah, It’s working out really well for Tepper so far, and only slightly better for Stevie. Mismanaged organizations lighting money on fire.
rct
A lot of projection from you when all they’re doing is putting it out there that the dude is available.
Raymond Flagstaff
Lmao dude thinks offering up their backup C is fuel to rage
Captainmike1
Ya just don’t get much for $8 to $10 million a year these days
astick
Willingness? lol.
stymeedone
Realized they don’t have a choice.
LordD99
How nice of them.
VonPurpleHayes
Not that Cohen cares, but the Mets certainly wasted a lot of money on catchers.
Raymond Flagstaff
Gotta have a catcher or the third baseman is gonna get pretty tired
VonPurpleHayes
Haha. Well I mean they keep signing catchers they don’t need or apparently want.
Rishi
It seems like possible poor management of an organization to be going through catchers like this. Making a commitment to a catcher usually entails commiting to the coach type asset of their game that they can bring to your pitchers. To cut a backup after 100 pa and one season is odd. It’s a small sample hitting wise. Maybe they didn’t like what they saw obviously but the fact that they had a similar situation with another catcher recently makes it stand out, tho one could argue the situations are different.
dugmet
Alvarez matured faster at the position than anyone anticipated.
Rishi
That’s good info but still nice to have a backup you trust. They have apparently switched to Heinie-man
VonPurpleHayes
This signing never made sense.
LongTimeFan1
@Rishi,
Narvaez was signed on two year deal to be the starter and mentor top prospect Francisco Alvarez who was 21 and not expected to be much of a factor for the Mets early in 2023.
But Narvaez got injured early in the 2023 season, and Alvarez with his power bat was called up. The surprise however was his defense, along with his maturity. He became the Mets starting catcher and remained so even after Narvaez returned. Narvaez hasn’t been cut. He can certainly be traded.
Regarding McCann, he underperformed for 2 years and was thus traded.
BrianStrowman9
@LTF
McCann was given away & paid down to $2.5MM per year.
If they want to pay Narvaez down to that & give him away—sure. But he has no value and no suitors at his current price point.
Raymond Flagstaff
Narvaez has much more value than McCann if he comes down mccans price it’s a great value to someone who needs him
LongTimeFan1
@Brian,
I agree Mets will almost surely have to pay a good chunk of Narvaez’s salary in a trade just as they did to trade McCann. Catchers are vulnerable to injury thus at some point someone will need a veteran catcher anytime between now and opening day or beyond.
At some point Mets are likely to keep only two catchers on the active roster, or perhaps even the 40, so they’ll have to make a decision before opening day, Sometimes these decisions resolve themselves through injury.
Raymond Flagstaff
But I would argue McCann didn’t under perform, he just wasn’t ever very good at all. He did about what I would have expected
LongTimeFan1
He had several good seasons with Detroit before Mets signed him. That offensive improvement disappeared as a Met. But being starting catcher was new for him so Mets took a chance that didn’t work out.
BrianStrowman9
I’m very pleased with Mcann as a backup C for the price point the O’s got him. He’s a solid defensive catcher that isn’t a total 0 offensively.
He was just vastly overpaid and miscast as a starter in NY.
Raymond Flagstaff
Two halfway decent averages in those “several good years” easily low enough to be statistical aberration.
Raymond Flagstaff
Fine as a backup, I agree
JoeBrady
Willing?
padam
Well, that makes the rebuild official. This is where I draw the line as a Mets fan.
LongTimeFan1
@padam,
We need another bat. Mid lineup bat or # 6 hitter with a solid track record.. Infielder, super utiliity or DH.. Don’t know if Mets will do that. Otherwise looking at Vientos and/or DJ Stewart as DH.
raisinsss
I think Demetrius Jerome may have the inside track at DH on this 24 Mets team. At least until he shows that 2023 was a fluke.
I think MV will be at 1b when Peter is traded, and DH until then.
outinleftfield
Willingness and ability are two different things. Guess Cohen could eat his contract and get rid of him.