The Mets announced the signing of left-hander Sean Manaea to a two-year contract. It’s reportedly a $28MM guarantee for the Boras Corporation client, who can opt out following the 2024 season. Manaea will make $14.5MM next season, leaving him with a $13.5MM call on the ’25 option.
Manaea, 32 in February, was a first-round pick by the Royals back in 2013 and was swapped to the A’s alongside Aaron Brooks in the 2015 deal that brought Ben Zobrist to Kansas City. The southpaw made his big league debut in Oakland early in the 2016 season and fashioned a solid rookie year for himself with a 3.86 ERA and 4.08 FIP across 144 2/3 innings of work. Manaea continued to provide mid-to-back end of the rotation consistency for Oakland over the next few seasons, and he owned a career 3.94 ERA (105 ERA+) and 4.15 FIP in 464 innings by the end of the 2018 season. Unfortunately, the lefty’s success was interrupted by shoulder surgery late in the 2018 campaign and he missed nearly all of 2019.
Upon his return to action late in the 2019 season, Manaea more or less picked up right where he left off. In 48 starts from 2019-21, the left-hander posted a solid 3.73 ERA (111 ERA+) with a strong 3.64 FIP. During this stretch, Manaea saw his strikeout rate climb considerably. Though he entered the 2019 season with a rate of just 19.2% for his career, the lefty struck out 24.8% of batters faced over the next three seasons while walking just 5.2% and generating a 43.8% groundball rate that was a near match for his 44.1% figure in the first three seasons of his career. With just one year left before the lefty would hit free agency and the team going nowhere in 2022, the A’s shipped Manaea to San Diego as the Padres in a four-player deal, netting a pair of prospects for the left-hander’s services.
Unfortunately, Manaea began to struggle upon departing Oakland. The lefty’s lone season in San Diego was something of a disaster as he struggled to a 4.96 ERA, 24% worse than league average by ERA+, with a 4.53 FIP. Manaea’s strikeout rate dipped to 23.2%, his walk rate climbed to 7.5%, and he generated grounders at a career-worst 38.2% clip. While the southpaw mostly looked like himself in the first half of the season, with a 4.11 ERA and 4.07 FIP in 100 2/3 innings of work (17 starts), that production fell off a cliff down the stretch as he allowed a whopping 6.44 ERA over his final 13 contests. Those struggles led Manaea to sign a two-year, $25MM deal with the Giants last offseason that gave him the option to return to the free agent market this winter.
At first, Manaea’s time with the Giants saw similarly disastrous results as his final outings with the Padres the previous year. The lefty was booted from the club’s rotation in early May and by mid-June had put together a 5.84 ERA in 49 1/3 frames as opposing batters teed off to the tune of a hefty .474 slugging percentage. However, as MLBTR’s Darragh McDonald noted in a recent profile of Manaea, the lefty added a sweeper to his repertoire at the end of May and found massive success with it. Hitters struggled to a .140/.161/.163 slash line against the pitch, swinging and missing at it 35.1% of the times it was thrown.
After adding the sweeper, Manaea quickly found more success with the Giants. He pitched to a solid 3.78 ERA with a fantastic 3.26 FIP in his final 81 frames of the season, and excelled in a late-season return to the rotation with a 2.25 ERA and 3.21 FIP in four September starts. After adding the sweeper midseason, Manaea punched out 24.2% of batters faced while walking 6.6% and generating grounders at a 44% clip reminiscent of his days in Oakland. While the majority of that success came in multi-inning relief, the lefty nonetheless flashed the form that made him a successful mid-rotation arm earlier in his career.
The strong late-season results led Manaea to decline his $12.5MM player option with the Giants and return to the open market. The decision worked out well for the southpaw, as his $28MM pact with the Mets comes with an AAV of $14MM and the ability to return to opt out of the deal once again next winter should he choose to do so. Manaea slightly outperformed the two-year, $22MM prediction MLBTR offered when ranking him 35th on our annual Top 50 MLB free agents list, earning an additional $3MM annually over the same term. The deal is mostly in line with the market for back-end starters this offseason, which has seen the likes of Nick Martinez ($26MM) and Kenta Maeda ($24MM) earn similar guarantees on two-year arrangements.
By adding Manaea, the club adds another veteran arm to a rotation mix that parted ways with both Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander at the trade deadline last summer. The southpaw figures to return to starting full-time in joining the Mets, slotting into the middle of the club’s rotation behind incumbents Kodai Senga and Jose Quintana and ahead of fellow offseason additions Luis Severino and Adrian Houser. The addition of Manaea allows the club to utilize the likes of Tylor Megill, Joey Lucchesi and Jose Butto as depth options at the Triple-A level or in the club’s bullpen. The same figures to go for lefty David Peterson when he returns from offseason hip surgery sometime next summer.
The Mets were already over the highest luxury tax threshold of $297MM prior to signing Manaea, That means his full $14MM is part of the Mets’ overage coming into 2024. Assuming they remain over the highest tax threshold all season, the club figures to pay $15.8MM in taxes on Manaea’s salary next season, meaning the club effectively figures to pay $29.8MM for the lefty’s services in 2024. Of course, that’s unlikely to be much of a concern for the Mets as the club paid over $100MM into the luxury tax this past season. With the club’s rotation mix now likely settled, the Mets figure to continue searching for help at third base, DH and in the bullpen going forward.
Jon Heyman of the New York Post reported the Mets were signing Manaea to a two-year, $28MM guarantee with an opt-out. The Associated Press reported the salary breakdown.
johnnybadd2019
I had a feeling this was going to happen
OIC2021
Just like the Guardians not spending money
solaris602
That part’s not a feeling. It’s a fact until proven otherwise. They’re waiting for markets to disintegrate so they can pay bottom dollar on one year deals. Even that might be a stretch for them. Until then Antonetti will still be working the “will work for food” and day workers crowd.
bronyaur
This is sounding like a rebuilding year in Cleveland.
iverbure
That’s what fans say every year and every year just about they’re competitive in baseball’s worst division.
maxmilna
Hahaha
DannyDimes2023
Not a bad move here. Him and severino are both boom or bust so might as well go all in on that. Both bounce back candidates and have had good success in recent years. Both innings eaters.
filihok
RE DD
“Not a bad move here. Him and severino are both boom or bust”
Exactly!
The Mets are, how should I say, not locks for the postseason. Nor are they out of it
Going for high variance players is a solid strategy
If they hit, you are in
raisinsss
And if they collectively miss, SOME guys will have hit, and they can be moved at the deadline.
dugmet
@filihok Spotted! My man from PSD!
dubtastic
PSD R.I.P.
norcalblue
Agree. Mannea is healthy and got back on track at the end of last season. This has the potential to be very rewarding for Mets
JackStrawb
The idea that these Mets are going for high variance guys is amusing, anyway. Bader, Taylor, Houser, Manaea (91 ERA+ over the last 4 years), with even Severino now in the 30-and-over crowd after throwing 209 innings over the last 5 years define the no-variance crowd.
You just hope they aren’t going to get a lot worse, but overall some decline is nearly certain.
Raymond Flagstaff
“Some decline is nearly certain” is nonsense
YourDreamGM
Nothing to bounce back from for Manaea. Giants got him back on track hence the opt out.
HBRC1987
Manaea was terrible last season when it mattered most. By the end of the season with nothing on the line he was great!
Raymond Flagstaff
Great, for 12 mil? Sweet
Raymond Flagstaff
14
foppert2
Nope. It mattered most for the Giants in September. He was good.
Nice deal for all concerned. Hope he goes well for the Mets.
HBRC1987
Wrong. Giants were out of contention by September. They were just trying to get to .500. Easy to put up good numbers with nothing on the line. Manaea’s past his prime now and unreliable.
HBRC1987
Manaea was terrible for like 3/4 of the season. The first 3/4 of the season set you up for the stretch run. So that portion of the season is more important in this case because the Giants had dug such a big hole, there was nothing to lose at that point. It’s like saying a losing basketball team who is down by 25 to start the 4th quarter really stepped it up when it mattered and only lost by 10! Loser mentality.
foppert2
Nope. They were right in the hunt. Equal with the Dbacks for a wild card spot.
foppert2
On sept 1
HBRC1987
Yeah and they tripped at the finish line. Manaea pitched well under zero pressure. His last 2 seasons were atrocious.
Hammerin' Hank
Whether the Giants were out of contention or not should have absolutely nothing to do with analyzing Manaea’s performance. If he was good in the last month, then it may have been due to some adjustments he and/or his coaches had made. It’s such a stupid narrative to say that it’s easier to be good with nothing on the line. Either way you’re facing major league hitters.
foppert2
There was pressure in September. The season was on the line. Manaea was one that did perform.
HBRC1987
Not stupid at all. Sports are more about mental than physical adjustments. Ask anyone who has played the game. Manaea was on a stacked Padres team and was garbage. Dude is washed.
HBRC1987
Just remember what good ol Davey Gee said when Manaea is sitting on a 5+ era and out of the Mets rotation by July.
HBRC1987
The Giants were not a playoff caliber team. Come on man. Everybody knew that. There was like 10 other teams going for those last wild card spots.
foppert2
Ok. I’ll just leave you to justify your misinformation with more misinformation. For the record, there was 6 teams with realistic chances of taking the 3 wild card spots. 7 if you include the Padres.
HBRC1987
Wow you’re really reaching there bud.
HBRC1987
Its cool I get it you’re the president of the Sean Manaea fan club lol. Dude had 3 quality starts last season! He sucks.
foppert2
You are correct. Not many thought the Padres were a chance.
Roll
@davey gee
“Yeah and they tripped at the finish line. Manaea pitched well under zero pressure. His last 2 seasons were atrocious”
This is confusing. Why would you bother saying they tripped at the finishing line if there was zero pressure. Also on Sept 1st the Giants had the same record as the diamondbacks who made it to the world series. not sure which your sayin tripping or pressure.
“The first 3/4 of the season set you up for the stretch run. So that portion of the season is more important in this case because the Giants had dug such a big hole, there was nothing to lose at that point.”
at 3/4 quarter of the way through they were still lined up to be a wildcard for the playoffs. Also correct me if im wrong but didnt the “last place” wild cards just both play in the world series? Also prior year’s world series team also had a team that was a “last place” wild card team in the phillies?
Also the Mets were the number one team 3/4 of the way through and ended up barely playing in the playoffs. If anything i would think the stretch run is more important than 3/4 of the season as long as you manage 500 ball or close to it because momentum means a ton.
HBRC1987
Is that what you do, analyze peoples comments then go dive for stats to try to feel better about your dismal life?
HBRC1987
“Were a chance”? What does that even mean, Floppert?
HBRC1987
I said “in this case”, meaning the Giants. I wasn’t talking about the Phillies or the Dbacks or the Rangers. You build momentum through the first 3/4 of the season and you either flop out like the mets, or you finish strong. The Giants tripped way before the finish line actually. Even they didn’t want to make the playoffs because they were a garbage group of guys. They sucked so badly the first 3/4 that they had zero confidence against the elite teams.
Raymond Flagstaff
People are so simple… you think possibly ending your career vs getting a 25 million dollar deal is no pressure… lmao
Raymond Flagstaff
Yes professional sports is filled with the best minds of their generation… Davey u funny
Raymond Flagstaff
Oh you are just a troll, now I get it lol.
HBRC1987
Your statement is nonsense. Then why did he suck all season and all the season before? He still got a huge contract after an atrocious season with the Padres. “Ending your career” lol. You don’t know baseball.
HBRC1987
Ooh he called me a troll. What do I do? What does that mean? Clown.
HBRC1987
Wow he had 2 nice starts at the end of the season. You really think thats why the Mets signed him? He still would have got the same contract regardless. Just like he did last season after a terrible season. You don’t know the business of baseball at all.
Raymond Flagstaff
Ok chief. Sorry you don’t understand, but I wasn’t really expecting you to considering all the best minds are professional athletes
Raymond Flagstaff
Who are you talking to chief?
Raymond Flagstaff
So much wit! You must be a professional athlete with all those adjustments demonstrating your intelligence. We are all in awe; maybe when you finish your illustrious career as an internet god you can run the Mets?
Raymond Flagstaff
There it is. My jaw dropped, so beautiful, you should really get published when you are old enough to sign a contract
Raymond Flagstaff
Wow you really can’t connect thoughts from one moment to the next. Clearly I’m wasting my time humbling you. Try to reread if you are so concerned. In the mean time I will be muting you as you are boring like all trolls before you
mab51357
If he had performed the first 3/4 of the season the Giants would have been in a much better position in September. The entire season is meaningful. He hurt the Giants for most of the season. That said, he wasn’t used properly by Kapler at times either. I really thought he would stay once Kapler was fired. Good for him.
Rational_Mets_Fan
Kind of like Francisco Lindor last season. Once they were out of it he was a very productive hitter. Had that been flipped we would not be in the situation we’re in now, for better or worse.
LosPobres1904
He was terrible with the Padres
Roll
“Is that what you do, analyze peoples comments then go dive for stats to try to feel better about your dismal life?”
i didnt mention any stats other than common knowledge that anyone that reads a newspaper or goes on any major paper would know (even non-baseball playing people like you would know). Also if you mean in this case you should say general statements or atleast say “in this case”
but i know how to win an argument with your type
yo momma is a clown *drops mic*
Roll
““This is confusing. Why would you bother saying they tripped at the finishing line if there was zero pressure. Also on Sept 1st the Giants had the same record as the diamondbacks who made it to the world series. not sure which your sayin tripping or pressure.”
You lost the argument right there clown. See ya!!
actually by your own statement
“Everybody knew that. There was like 10 other teams going for those last wild card spots.”
which includes both the diamondbacks and giants and if you knew the 10 teams you would know who was leading for the wildcards.
bubbye … go honk your mom’s big red nose 🙂
foppert2
It means many thought the padres weren’t really a chance going into September. It was a sarcastic response to the “that’s a stretch” response to the number of teams teams that were still in the WC race.
At the end of day I’m totally ok with you thinking Manea is ordinary. That’s your call. I’m more about the importance of September to the Giants season and how he performed during that stretch. The general consensus in the season wash up was that they went belly up on the Rockies/ Dbacks/ Dodgers road trip starting in mid Sept. They went 2-8 and that was that. Done. Kapler got fired because of the perceived lack of effort during that trip. Hence my opinion that September was the most important month for them. That road trip being the most important series of games. But you don’t have to agree. It’s all good.
foppert2
@davey
mab51357
He’d of had more quality starts had they used him more as a starter. Kapler jacked the whole pitching staff by not being consistent with his starters. Manaea didn’t sign with the Giants to be used as a reliever. He did what was asked, but didn’t like Kapler’s inconsistency. Granted, Kapler didn’t like a couple starters inconsistency either including Manaea. Manaea never got settled into a role until it was too late. Too many relievers starting games and too many starters relieving games. That was Kapler overthinking which happened a lot.
foppert2
I saw a thing with Stripling on Foul territory pre Xmas. Essentially said he enjoyed playing for Kapler and his use of openers etc is what kept them in it so long. As you alluded to above with Manea, put it on himself for forcing him into that situation. I was surprised.
LosPobres1904
He quit on the Padres during the playoffs
mab51357
What high school are you going to? Why do I ask? Because that’s how you act by calling people clowns all the time. Everyone has their opinions on here but you’re the only one that is always right. Look in the mirror. Maybe you’ll see what a clown really looks like.
Rob Schumann
But the way he pitched in New York when he was with Oakland made him worth the contract. Manaea and Severino are not just flyers. Before injuries they were both very solid who looked like TOR pitchers in New York. If both can return to form the Mets will have the 2 pitchers they thought they were getting with Scherzer and Verlander at nearly half the price of one of them. I think Manaea will be just fine. Severino seems to be made of glass these days. It’s probably a good idea for him to think about a move to the bullpen. Like tÿhe scouts used to say when he was a prospect. He is 5’10” and 185lbs throwing 98mph. He is going to face a lot of injuries.
mab51357
Intelligent comment again. You’ve wasted my time as usual. Muted
mab51357
Never called you a troll at all. And muted is because you are very confrontational if anyone disagrees with you. It’s like no one else has anything constructive to say except for you. Calling people clowns for their opinions is very childish. Act like a grownup please. Unless you’re not. If you’re not a grownup I apologize. Judging from your attitude, it would make sense.
dalejr
Agreed. Since already at $294 million, and over luxury tax, this makes sense. If he pitches well and we are out of contention we can grab more prospects for him at the deadline.
padam
But not the prospects that would matter.
flyingblindsquirrel
With Hef as pitching coach, bust or IL is far more likely than boom.
dalejr
Need to go out and hire Leo Mazzone as special adviser to Heff
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Hugh Hefner is the Mets pitching coach? He’s a sly dog.
Pete'sView
Good luck with Manaea. As a Giants fan I’m just glad he chose to opt out.
Raymond Flagstaff
As a Giants fan I’d be more concerned with how to get to the game without stepping in human excrement
Citizen1
Jeff sumardjza is also available and not retired
Yanksfan1030
I think they’re more “bust” than boom. Manaea has had one very good year In his career. Severino hasn’t had a good full season for 5 years.
86mets
And with that, David Stearns concludes his debut off season of dumpster diving. To the fans who truly believed that he was going to sign Montgomery, Snell, or even Imanaga….the jokes on you.
Don’t get me wrong, I like the Houser and Bader adds and Severino could work. And Snell comes with too many red flags (injury history, control issues and age) plus the loss of a draft pick. But his bullpen adds have been nothing short of trash. And he overpaid for Manea. Montgomery comes with fewer issues than Snell and fits with their 2025 timeline very well. Oh well. It is what it is. 4th place or bust!
CleaverGreene
Montgomery comes with Ace money for a #2-3 starter. Stearns is known for his bullpens, so I’ll trust him over you.
Cleon Jones
Bravo. Syearns deserves the benefit of doubt here. His approach is interesting, this one has potential to help siginficantly, but if not, he’s not breaking the bank. Like many teams, lots of “ifs” with Mets chances this year, but also lots of possible reasons why they could be competetive.
thecrown24
@86 Mets You mean the 325 Million they offered Yamamoto only to have that used against them so he just gets the money he wants and play for the team he wanted “The Dodgers” That Dumpster Diving Stearns? you along with other other Mets fans need to chill out with this Crap. The guys been here not even a year yet. Let him collectively bring in his guys and get the ship right before you start critiquing. I’m embarrassed this is your take and I am a Die Hard Mets Fan. Have you never heard of “Patience” It shouldn’t be that hard to give him a year after the constant years of suffering from the Wilpons.
Raymond Flagstaff
They wont chill, there is an unlimited supply of internet fools. Even when one grows up there are two more coming of age ready to say dumb stuff all over the internet
MikeyHammer
The only positive I can scrape together would be that it seemed last year with the Verlander and Scherzer fiasco, it appeared that the team had no fight, like they all just went through the motions, assuming those big names meant we win those games, no sense showing up and giving a full effort. Maybe now you get guys hungry to fight for their spots and maybe for some wins. Complacency breeds lack of effort, being seen as the underdog sometimes breeds a unified clubhouse and a us vs. them mindset. But, in reality, that can only carry you so far, when compared to the rotations and lineups the Phils and Braves possess.
CleaverGreene
They crashed with the pressure of a record payroll. Great expectations are often paired with great disappointments when the worst case happens and unprepared players over-compensate.
jlatimer11
Injuries hurt that team more than anything else, IMO.
Marte was nowhere near what he was in 2022. Quintana missed the first few months. Diaz missed the entire year. Verlander was hurt to start the season.
Add that to McNeil being ineffective for the first half of the season and the expectations you mentioned, it was doomed to fail.
stymeedone
Every team had injuries. Every team had slow starters. Every team had players with bad years. It will happen again this year. Plan your excuses early.
dugmet
No one who listened to Cohen or Stearns thought Mets would sign Monty or Snell or any other high end FA. Yamamoto was an outlier. Young. No loss of a draft pick.
Buckner
Reply from the loser, Mr. @86Mets.
Gee. thanks for your input.
Who p’eed in your Cheerios girl?
This one belongs to the Reds
At least the Reds didn’t add him to their so so collection.
If he had a good year, he’ll opt out. If not, he gets an extra year. Player wins with opt outs every time, yet GMs stupid enough to do it.
raisinsss
If Manaea opts out it means that he outperformed his first year salary.
Is that not also a win for the team? You’re giving a player two platform years to want to perform.
And yeah, it’s a mechanism that favors the player. But it’s used to buy down the AAV or years of a deal.
He DID also opt out of $15m to land this $14m AAV deal, so….
melfman1
Nope, read again… it was a $12.5 million dollar salary that he opted out of to make $14 million.
raisinsss
Then this article is wrong: nbcsportsbayarea.com/mlb/san-francisco-giants/sean…
The Giants would have owed Manaea $15 million in 2024 and in an underwhelming free-agent starting pitching market, the veteran has positioned himself to potentially land a larger contract elsewhere.
Which it could be. They might have just tacked on his $5m bonus as $2.5 to each year.
YankeesBleacherCreature
If a player chooses to opt-out, then a team got perceived surplus value from that said player.
smkelly1970
more proof the Red Sox overpaid on Giolito.
Raymond Flagstaff
Pretty much every player goes where they get the most money. According to the peanut gallery that means every player is overpaid….
solaris602
Don’t worry, there will be a conjuring sabremetrician come along soon and explain an entirely new measurement concept proving the Red Sox actually invested in Lucas Giolito the thought form which is far superior than the outdated method of investing in the player and his recent results. That same person is working OT getting Bill Parcells’ quote, “I am my record.” scrubbed from the internet.
10centBeerNight
Ok – now add 1 DH bat and 2 pen arms.
Seaver rules
He can start, go long relief but I like that he can pitch the 7th-8th innings against tough top heavy lefty lineups like Phil’s, Braves and Dodgers. He or Lucchesi could be fine in that role.
CleaverGreene
The Braves are not top heavy lefty: Acuna, Riley, Murphy. They led the league vs LHP.
Seaver rules
Olson, Albies, Murphy. You get the jist.
20gamelosingstreak
The three lefties the Braves have are Olson, Harris, and Kelenic and they’ll be very spread out in the lineup. Last year the Braves had a .870 OPS against lefties while having a .837 against righties. Acuna, Albies, Riley, Ozuna, Murphy, and Arcia all do very well against lefties. Michael Harris actually hit .301 against lefties last year. So really it’s just Olson and Kelenic who would be on opposite ends of the lineup.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
Albies is a switch hitter who is better against lefties, Murphy bats right handed.
LonnieB
Olson hits lefties pretty decent too. The only one I can’t speak of is kelenic and I’m pretty sure he’ll be fine with the roster around him.
User 4223176798
If you have the money spend it on ballplayers and not on right-wing nut job politicians. Yes, CJ, I’m talking to you. While I want nothing to do with Manea, I do want the Giants to invest on ballplayers with proven track records. Give me Hader. Give me Urias. Give me Snell. Quality.
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
You mean left wing nut. There fixed it for you!
Joe says...
Right wing nut, left wing nut. They’re just opposite sides of the same coin.
CleaverGreene
The key is realizing what’s a nut, mate.
JoeBrady
They’re just opposite sides of the same coin.
========================
60%+ of this country simply vote for whom they are told to vote for.
FWIW, it is much like sports. You root for the uniform. Some folks will determine their own direction, but too many folks register D or R when they are 18, and then spend their lives defending that decision, without a clue as to why.
Joe says...
Completely agree Joe.
whyhayzee
Joe, I registered Republican in 1975, voted for Gerald Ford in 1976. The Republican party has gone down the crapper. The Democrats were already there but I guess they needed the company? I will still vote Republican but only for the non right wing idiots. I was hoping Sununu would run, he’s got infinite more intelligence than the nut jobs who are “running”. Also, my mother’s father fought in the Civil War, don’t tell me it wasn’t about slavery and don’t give me that statue / flag BS. Complete fabrication of history after the fact. So maybe I’m fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I know my dad supported the NAACP, admired MLK, and was as conservative as it gets. World War 2 veteran with multiple decorations, lots of guns in the house (tucked away for safe keeping), and did not like FDR at all.
But you’ll have to pry that Red Sox pennant from my cold hands before I give it up. That’s my Second Amendment. That and cutting my sleeves off. Bare arms indeed. But military weapons? Are you kidding me? We are lost.
Raymond Flagstaff
Exactly. It’s just sports to people. Hence they are easily herded into thinking a geriatric moron with alzheimers who has been corrupt for years is actually a viable candidate
stymeedone
I’m a registered Republican. Trump is not a republican.
foppert2
Too many people do that whatever the field. Instead of new information changing an opinion, opinion changes the information. Big egos putting undying love for themselves ahead of everything else. Scary stuff.
Raymond Flagstaff
Left still thinks it’s the anti war anti authoritarian party lmao. People are very slow to recognize change
CleaverGreene
Gotta agree with you on Giants ownership. They have the revenue, spend on the team.
phenomenalajs
Of course, I would have preferred Imanaga, but it makes sense that they weren’t looking to sign any contract of significant length.
Seaver rules
Yoshi and Imanaga were the only two pitchers that the Mets were going to give a long term deal and now it appears that Imanaga is going West like Yoshi. Mets will have Vasil and Stewart ready for 2025. Could be up this year so taking a flier on Sevy, Manea and Houser is low risk.
giantboy99
Mets will deal him by trade deadline.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
With Manea off the Board, it is go the for the Orioles to sign Ryu
MacGromit
I hope you’re right Lefty. I had forgotten about Ryu. He would be a good fit for the O’s both in ceiling and payroll. However, with the current runaway train market for SPs, maybe not in payroll after all. Still smh about what Beantown paid for Giolito. $38.5m/2 yrs!?!
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Offer him 1 year 14 million dollar deal like Jack Flaherty
Or
1 year 8 Mill guaranteed and incentives to get him to 20 million
C Yards Jeff
Me too on Ryu. I’d love to see him in an Os black and orange uni. Here’s hoping his demand drops to the 1yr with/option level!
MacGromit
Not sure why Elias is so allergic to multi-year contracts. lol
2 yrs and $31M with a team option 3rd yr doesn’t seem ridiculous for what Ryu could bring to the rotation in stability.
C Yards Jeff
I feel ya, MacG, I feel ya! If I had to guess, probably Angelos has the allergy. Elias is just following marching orders.
nyy17 2
Watch out boys, He’ll chew up innings for the Mets. He’s a Manaea.
FatChance65
He only comes out at night.
n2thecards
nice Hall & Oates reference!
DugoutJester
Lol I thoroughly enjoyed this comment
Krlnd
Well done, Nyy17 2!
That was absolutely hilarious!
Robrock30
Lol Mets,
They just whiffed once again on Imanaga.
AgeeHarrelsonJones
Rob
See filihok. Above.
Robrock30
This is a bad contract. If he is good he opts out and Mets have no SP for 2024. If he is bad, Mets are stuck with him.
Imanaga is who they needed for long term stability. They must have whiffed once again.
Ella B
Dude, he can’t opt out until after the 2024 season. The only one whiffing is you.
Robrock30
I meant 2025. If he is good he is gone.
JoeBrady
If he is bad, Mets are stuck with him.
=========================
Couldn’t you say the same with Imanaga?
Robrock30
Sean Manea has sucked the previous 2 years.
Mets just signed him for 2 more years if he sucks but only 1 year if he is good.
I would have preferred Imanaga for a long term deal who might be good. The Mets must have whiffed once again.
With the luxury tax added the Mets will be paying Manea $ 30 MM to suck in 2024. LOL
Raymond Flagstaff
Its a bad contract because he might be cheap this year is your argument… fascinating the genius one may find on the internet
Robrock30
He will cost the Mets $ 30 MM after luxury tax in 2024.
Raymond Flagstaff
No he won’t. More like 18
Robrock30
Hey it’s $ 14 MM + 110% surcharge = $ 29.4 MM.which the Article above calculates at $ 29.8 MM.
raisinsss
Rob rock is a known troll.
Do not feed the troll.
nailz#4life
Unlike their second place attempt to get Yoshi, I heard Stearns flew to Manea’s house for a McDonalds dinner and then Manea flew to his for a Kentucky fried chicken dinner on the Mets Private Jet to seal the deal.
leftyleftylefty
Your comment is so funny I almost laughed.
YourDreamGM
C for Mets. Opt out hurts but 14m is decent.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
So the Mets fan who said he was happy about the Sox signing Giolito because he didn’t want him… do you find this to be a better deal? Asking out of curiosity.
raisinsss
I would.
Sweeper seems to be a great add. Ended the year on an upswing while Gio was trending in the opposite direction.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I’m very skeptical. He hasn’t thrown a lot of innings once in a season (more than 170) and Giolito almost doubled him on WAR last year.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
He threw 179 innings once. My correction
CleaverGreene
Wasn’t me, but I see the deals as similar. Gio has the higher upside. Manea has the slightly higher floor. Just my opinion.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
When you say “higher floor”, what do you mean? I look at age and Giolito is actually younger. I like the deal for Giolito better if he is anywhere near his career numbers.
Edub23
Alot of mediocrity on this team outside of Lindor, Senga and Diaz.
Some solid players with Alvarez, Alonso, McNeil and Nimmo.
Have to really hope that a bunch of players have career years just to be able to compete with Atlanta and Philly.
I’d have to think that there are a couple more signings upcoming that are in the pipeline.
Seaver rules
Alonso is the best home run hitter in the game and Nimmo is a good lead off hitter. Check the stats. Alvarez will be hitting 30+ homers a season for a long time. Mediocrity?
CleaverGreene
I look at team strength by the top 13 players. On paper, the Phillies and Braves have the Mets beat. The game is played on the field.
Raymond Flagstaff
13 players? Lol
mab51357
And it’s also played with more than 13 players or were you talking NBA?
mab51357
I consider Alonso a lot higher than solid. I really think some Met’s fans under appreciate him. Wish my team had him.
pogo
28 guaranteed? Wow. Good for him. Now he has to pitch. Giants didn’t unleash him til he was ready. Couldn’t hit the backside of a barn when he first got to SF.
Roidville Slugger
I’d heard they were INTERESTED…
joefleury
Overpay for a league average pitcher.
kodion
If he is good enough to opt out, he’s probably worth a QO which he won’t take. This is a decent bet without over-committing
Yanksfan1030
Typical met signing. Let’s overpay a guy who had one good season 6 years ago and who has always been an inconsistent disappointment since. If he can’t pitch in SD good luck having success in NY.
Too bad having the richest owner in sports still can’t buy them out of being stupid.
DugoutJester
Your trolling efforts are futile
Yanksfan1030
Sorry you see the truth as “trolling”.
Sourhaze
Rodon would like a word
Yanksfan1030
Rodon was one of the best pitchers in baseball the two previous years. Bad comparison.
whyhayzee
How did Montas work out for you? Oh yeah.
Yanksfan1030
Did they resign him? Lol
EasternLeagueVeteran
Rodon and Montas gave you 65.2 innings of 6.76 ERA for $30.333.333 ? Sounds like the typical Yanks signing lately.
On the upside, at least Soto and Verdugo may help get you enough runs to support Gerrit Cole, Clarke Schmidt, and the other three “comeback” candidates. And they still haven’t replaced Wandy as the lefty in the bullpen. I think Cashman has a lot of work left to do before you as a Yankees fan can start throwing around the word stupid toward any other GM.
Mikenmn
The salaries for 4-5 starters seems high, but what’s really off is the opt-outs for players who aren’t that good. This is a $26M guarantee, Mets might be rooting for a solid year and then the opt-out and both sides move on. If he’s injured or underperforms, it’s a lot of cash, especially with the CBT tax. Would you spend $50M+ for two years of this guy?
10centBeerNight
NYM hit jackpot with Senga. If you believe reporting, there is concern among clubs about Imagana. Too great a risk for a long term deal when NYM have one of the best farms in game, with 3-4 arms ready by some time in 2025. Trust Stearns over the rage out crew. Do they have a shot at WC with a DH bat addition and 1 or 2 reliable pen arms? Yes an outside one
whyhayzee
Can I get five cents worth? I’m trying to cut back a bit.
jvent
They should still sign Bauer for this year with a club option for next year and sign Woodruff for this year with club options for ‘25/‘26 in case he doesn’t pitch well coming back. Still need some power at DH (Hoskins/Soler) would be nice especially since they both can still play the field.
Yankeesforever
is there even a plan with you guys over there on the other side town?
Severino and Manaea? Gonna need to assign them a locker and a hospital room.
whyhayzee
Funny.
Raymond Flagstaff
The plan is obvious.
User 401527550
That’s funny coming from the Yankees paying 100s of millions for old has beens. Both these guys cost less then Rodon who is having a great Yankee career.
Yankeesforever
yeah we made some bum deals, but at least we went and got Soto and still have Cole and Judge.
But after Verlander and Scherzer I figured you guys would have wised up, instead you are still chasing down the ambulance for contents you can put on the mound.
DugoutJester
A very solid signing by Stearns
unpaidobserver
I dont know. It’s a one year deal if he’s good but a two year deal if he sucks. If he’s bad enough to move to bullpen by midyear youve got the worst reliever ever and 21M left on his contract. Yikes!
JackStrawb
The opposite of that, of course.
In truth it’s puzzling, David. Manaea’s ERA+ over the last 4 seasons is 91. That’s bad, not solid.
The Mets also have 9 guys, no exaggeration, who project to pitch to or very close to that result in 2024. Even their minor leaguers project to an ERA+ in the high 80s, low 90s.
“Dumpy” signing, by Stearns. Dumpy, particularly when the Mets could have gotten two respectable setup men at this price. Now that’s something they’ll definitely need.
DugoutJester
You haven’t stayed up on Maneas history.
And they certainly still can get bullpen pieces.
LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert
Yes! Finally! A move that I like! Dollar Tree David has finally signed someone who I actually wanted. It only took 3/4s of the offseason. Well done Sleepy, now sign Josh Hader
EasternLeagueVeteran
Why sign Hader? do you think Diaz is not coming back? No one spends $40 M to have two closers in the same bullpen. NOT ONE General Manager would do that.
Please land your spaceship back on earth. You have been up past the clouds too long now.
LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert
@EasternLeagueVeteran you do realize that Diaz missed all of last year right? He might not be the same. For all I know, he might throw 3mph slower. Plus I’d rather have Hader close over Diaz anyway. This bullpen is no good. How is a bullpen thats made up by Diaz, Raley, Tonkin, Adams, Drew Smith, Josh Walker, SRF, and Scrubb supposed to compete with the likes of say the Braves who have Iglesias, Lopez, Jimenez, Minter, Bummer, Matzek, etc. Our pitchers barely go 5 innings. We needed more help then we got. Hader is whats needed, doesn’t matter on the price
EasternLeagueVeteran
You are right about the Mets pitchers leaving a lot of the game left to the bullpen, but there are other relievers who can get them to the closer for a lot less than what Hader would be paid. if you don’t like Raley, what about Wandy Peralta? How about Phil Maton from the right side who has great peripehrals. The Mets could sign both of them for what Hader would cost per year. Even Aroldis Chapman on a pillow deal or a 2 with one year opt out, to set the table for Diaz. Sort of like Ron Davis in front of Goose Gossage, or David Robertson in front of Mariano Rivera.
You won’t be able to find many trade partners for Diaz based on his contract,
This is the year that the Mets have stated will be a transition year. After 2024, the hits to the Cap for Verlander and Scherzer and James McCann and Tomas Nido come off the books, dropping $57.6 M from the Mets 2025 bill..
The Mets said they will be competitive but are not going to bust up a plan to get the salaries back under control to blow it up on something that may not be necessary., like a second closer.
I’d expect to see Nate Lavender up by mid-year if he gets off on the right foot, for the major league minimum salary before I’d expect to see Josh Hader.
cguy
Only 7 sp left in the top 50 FA. Quite a few playoff-hopeful ML teams still need rotation help. Price will keep going up. I hope Reds are not out of the Yariel Rodriguez sweepstakes. That would be a statement maker if Krall signed him.
This one belongs to the Reds
Hope is all we seem to have as usual.
cguy
Speak fo yourself. I am as optomistic about the Reds future as I have been in a generation. The talent is there- just needs experience and transitioning into a team.
This one belongs to the Reds
Nothing wrong with optimism, but talent has to be realized and nurtured. At least the pitching staff in particular has some more good veteran presence this upcoming year. Hopefully some key guys learn a few things off them. The best teams always have a good mix of veterans and youngsters.
Augusto Barojas
Not a bad signing, though obviously his 2022/23 makes a really good season not exactly high probability. They certainly have not replaced Verlander/Scherzer by signing Manaea and Severino, and they weren’t even a good team last year. They need somebody like Snell to make those two signings decent.
BrianInWI
Manaea, Severino and Houser are likely to exceed the 2 WAR each that Scherzer and Verlander actually provided to the Mets in 2023, however.
Trotski
Actually Scherzer had back surgery and will miss most of next season rehabbing, so I’d rather have Manaea and Seve right now. Getting Acuna for half his salary is a fleecing of the highest order. Texas can say they won the WS so it doesn’t matter but they didn’t need Scherzer, he only made things worse.
Ma4170
I would’ve preferred overpaying for 6 years of Montgomery than 2 of Manaea. A half a season of a new sweeper doesn’t mean he’ll be able to sustain that this year (and hitters may adjust anyway). His numbers the last two years were aided by Petco, but he’s been terrible on the road. I have zero faith he’ll go back to his 2021 numbers (which were average to slightly above average), but I hope I’m wrong.
CaseyAbell
It looks like the Mets will be in the Cohen level of luxury tax forever. Which makes even defensible pickups like Manaea look ridiculously expensive. Almost $30 million in 2024! But Cohen’s got money to burn and he’s burning it.
As everybody says, Manaea is a high-variance play. If he can use the sweeper effectively he’ll help the Mets win. If the pitch goes bad or he gets hurt, he’s another hole in Cohen’s pocket. Oh well, it’s not my money.
EasternLeagueVeteran
The Mets obviously don’t have enough faith to put their 4th and 5th days starts in the hands of Megill/Lucchesi/Butto. But that said, if one of those 3 grow into the role they can be trading chips. And they have 2-3 prospective starters who will be filling Syracuse’s rotation this year, but I know better than anyone that prospects can fizzle. It should be an interesting 2024 for them.
LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert
@EasternLeagueVeteran none of the guys you listed (Megill, Butto, Luchessi) are any good. Quintana is going to get hurt again. Severino will get hurt. Houser isn’t the healthiest player in the world either. We need as much starting pitching as possible
mookiesboy
Mets off season isn’t close to over and folks are already grading it. They sign two quality set up guys and a DH and everything changes
Grade them in march. then see how first half pays out
PaulyMidwest
Calling it now he is gonna have a great year and possibly win comeback player of the year. He looked nasty in the second half and he has been working on a splitter at driveline. The Mets are putting together a decent rotation for cheap, I wish the cubs would’ve signed him but they aren’t signing anyone.
SweeperpitchisRogerBeshens
The Sweeper Grip, Tilt and Wrist action, why did Matt Blake, Ethan Katz get hired, just google Roger Beshens twitter click images. Look how many guys RB taught starting in May 2018.
Sign Alonso long-term!
OKay as a Mets fan I am good with this move, we have Senga as the ace, and 3,to 6 in Manaea, Quintana, Severino, Megill and Peterson. Now do what might be scrutinized but who cares Sign Trevoe Bauer to be our #2 pitcher. Sign a DH I say Turner or Soler as they can still play a position if needed. Then sign 2 bullpen arms and call it a day
deGrom/Langford Texas Ranger
In Bauer We Trust!
SweeperpitchisRogerBeshens
Any Sweeper questions, I’m the guy who can explain everything about it.
SweeperpitchisRogerBeshens
Cole and Snell couldn’t average over a K an IP until 2018 they both learned the Roger Beshens Football Slider, look it up on google. The Sweeper is the same pitch just thrown from a lower arm angle. 2018 was the first year in MLB that there was more K’s than Hit’s it’s cause of this Roger Beshens Football Slider.
deGrom/Langford Texas Ranger
They are paying him 29.8 million just this year if you include taxes. That is sure a lot of money for this man. Nola would be a lower hit to AAV than this guy. That’s quite a lot of money.
padam
Ultimately it’s more than $14M per due to the tax, so ~$20M for a 5 ERA pitcher. I’d rather them go after someone that means something, like a Montgomery or Imanaga, going forward. If they’re looking to plug holes, just bring up a bunch of kids then to get your 5 ERA, at least one may come out of the pack. The players being signed, even if they’re doing well, aren’t going to pull in the prospects the Mets would hope to receive.
So far I’m a bit weary of the Stearns game plan. This isn’t Milwaukee, nor did Milwaukee ever go to the show, even in a weaker division.
Mac Attack
Do you think Montgomery would actually play for the Mets?
padam
$$$$$
Yes.
flyingblindsquirrel
$$$$$ that the Mets will not be spending this offseason, so no.
padam
You forget they were in on Yomo, Ohtani…? So, yes.
flyingblindsquirrel
Did not forget. They stated publicly that Yamamoto was someone they would have made an exception for; he’s so young and it would be a long term deal, so it would fit into their competitive window. They dropped out of the Ohtani sweepstakes pretty early on (if they were ever really in it), so no.
The acquisitions this offseason, along with what they’ve been sating/signaling, make it pretty clear they are not signing any large contracts this year and I believe they will be looking to reset the CBT next season, as they should. It makes no sense to continue paying 110% on the dollar for the entire payroll, regardless of how much money Steve Cohen has.
UncommonSense
Is Ned Colletti running the Mets?
James Midway
Just don’t pitch him in the playoffs.
Salzilla
I don’t care about the money, but I just don’t think Manea is good either way and the Mets had a LOT more options out there. They went hard after Yoshi even with the philosophy of we’re not competing until 2025, but treating the rest of the pickups as stopgaps. To me, that makes little sense, you can easily spread around that Yoshi money and make yourself viable now, and there’s trades out there to be had as well. A one year break is a total head-scratcher, even if they are trying to lower taxes. Again–Yoshi money? Spread that around BETTER.
SeanStL
Wow. Over $300M plus all the taxes for an average looking team. I’m not sure of the best way to run a team, but this isn’t it.
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
Not a very intimidating Mets starting pitching rotation. Aging Verlander and Scherzer last year at the top was much better.
Jesse Chavez enthusiast
I like this move for the Mets with the way salaries are skyrocketing for pitchers. At worst he fills a spot in the rotation and gives you innings. At best he goes out there and gives you solid middle of the rotation innings knowing he can opt out and potentially cash in and if you’re not competitive, flip him for a mid level prospect to add to the farm system. Can teams attach a qualifying offer to a player opting out of a deal?
Cleon Jones
As long as he’s never had a qo.attached b4, and spent the entire season on the same mlb roster, then yes, they could offer a qo. With Manea, it seems highly unlikely outcome, but anythings possible.
Jesse Chavez enthusiast
@cleon
Thanks bud, I agree, that seems very unlikely. Crazier things have happened though.
Mac Attack
He’ll leave after 1 season
unpaidobserver
Apropos of nothing, still cant believe Melvin started Manaea in that play-in game in Oakland against the Rays and refused to remove him even when he showed shakiness. Ranks up there with boneheaded Melvin moves of all time.
THEY LIVE!!!
Roger that Roger!!
AL B DAMNED
Are the NY Mets signing NY Yankees rejects,, or my imagination? At least they don’t have to move too far!
THEY LIVE!!!
Seriously, Steve Cohen’s money would be better spent if he wrote a check to every authentic US citizen for $1000 each. It would improve the economy of all 50 states, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the other Territories.
1979andcounting
Nice article by Nick pointing out Manaea’s ups and downs, and the luxury tax that comes with the signing. But when is being off 27% in MLBTR prediction “slightly outperforming” such prediction?!!
LosPobres1904
Why? He blows
Canosucks
Would have rather seen them get Nick Martínez for a couple million less but I guess Stearns was still sleeping then or putting plants in his office
Trotski
Probably no point in replying to someone who’s username is based on hating someone, but anyway….
Martinez was signed on 11/30, getting a mid-rotation starter was not the priority at that point. They were focused on Yamamoto at that point as they should have been. No one was sleeping just ’cause we didn’t sign a good-not-great level starter early in FA. Notice that most of the signings we’ve made were after YY signed with LA. You don’t pivot to Plan B while you’re still working on Plan A.