As the free agent starting pitching market thins, there’s been some chatter about the Marlins as a team that might subtract a pitcher in trade. That attention has generally been centered on left-hander Jesús Luzardo and young righty Edward Cabrera. Last week, The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal wrote that Cabrera had the better chance of that duo of changing hands, although it wasn’t clear how likely Miami was to move either player.
Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald added some context on the trade possibilities involving Miami’s starters this afternoon. Jackson writes that the Fish are willing to consider offers on each of Luzardo, Cabrera and left-hander Braxton Garrett, although he indicates there aren’t any proposals under “active consideration.”
A trade still seems a possibility but isn’t necessarily likely. The Fish haven’t done much under first-year president of baseball operations Peter Bendix. Miami is the only team that still hasn’t signed a free agent to a major league deal this offseason. Their biggest moves were trade pickups of catcher Christian Bethancourt, reliever Calvin Faucher and out-of-options infielder Vidal Bruján.
It’s an underwhelming offseason for a team coming off a surprising Wild Card berth. The Fish seem likely to lose a 36-homer hitter after Jorge Soler declined his player option. They’re looking to add at shortstop, but the free agent class at the position is dismal. They could use another bat in the corner outfield/designated hitter mix.
For all the lineup questions, their biggest loss in 2024 is one to injury. Sandy Alcantara underwent Tommy John surgery during last year’s postseason. With the 2022 NL Cy Young winner missing the entire season, the Fish project for a season-opening starting five of Eury Pérez, Luzardo, Garrett, Cabrera and Trevor Rogers.
That’s still a promising group, but their once vaunted rotation depth has thinned. In addition to the Alcantara injury, the Fish dealt Pablo López and prospect Jake Eder last year. Depth options beyond their front five include Ryan Weathers and Bryan Hoeing. Miami should get a boost from former #3 overall pick Max Meyer, who is 18 months removed from his own Tommy John procedure. Jackson writes that the new front office still considers Meyer a viable starting pitcher; prospect evaluators were divided on whether he was better suited for a high-leverage relief role before the injury.
Meyer only made two MLB starts before the unfortunate ligament tear. Rogers was limited to four starts, all in April, last year by biceps and lat injuries. Pérez, widely regarded as the sport’s top pitching prospect before an impressive rookie season, logged 128 innings between Triple-A and the majors last season. Miami could still be cautious about expanding the 20-year-old’s workload too far beyond 150 frames.
Luzardo and Garrett are Miami’s only healthy starters who topped 100 MLB innings a season ago. They both had strong seasons. The former posted a 3.58 ERA while punching out more than 28% of opposing hitters in 32 starts. With three years of arbitration control and a fastball approaching 97 MPH on average, he likely has more trade value than anyone in the Miami rotation aside from Pérez (who certainly isn’t getting moved).
Garrett has a more extended control window, as he won’t get to free agency for another five seasons. The former #7 overall pick allowed 3.66 earned runs per nine in just under 160 frames. Garrett doesn’t have the huge velocity of most of his rotation mates, sitting around 91 MPH with his heater. Yet his strong secondary offerings and plus command have translated into mid-rotation results for the last two seasons.
Cabrera is a more volatile young arm. The 25-year-old righty worked to a 4.24 ERA across 99 2/3 MLB frames. He generated an impressive 27.2% strikeout rate and 54.3% ground-ball percentage with a fastball that sits above 96 MPH. His control remains a significant question, however. Cabrera walked more than 15% of opposing hitters last season and has handed out free passes at a 14% rate over parts of three years in the big leagues. As with Garrett, he’s under club control for five more seasons.
Dear Fish fans, what’s Cabrera worth? I like the stuff, but volatile was definitely a good word for him. Still…sorta intriguing.
Cabrera still has a very high ceiling and is controllable for five more years, so he won’t be cheap. He almost certainly won’t cost as much as Luzardo, though. I’d say at least one top prospect and a couple more solid ones. Or perhaps a Pablo Lopez-like trade, a one-for-one where they receive a young stud hitter who is already proven at the MLB level.
Spoken like a true Marlins fan who overrates Luzardo off one decent season and is almost ready for free agency. Now you want a proven young hitter for him. Lopez had much better stats. Lots of hard hit balls off Luzardo. Pitching is thin and for now he is cheap. But the league knows this team has to unload him. Cabrera walks many guys and can barely make 5 innings. Far from a sure thing regardless of any control.
overrates Luzardo off one decent season and is almost ready for free agency.
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You need to check out the stats before posting. He’s had tow excellent seasons, not one decent season, and he has three years of control., not “almost a FA”.
Overrate Luzardo all you want but he struggled at points of the season but came out on the better end and I’d take him with that insane k rate. His WAR was great (not that it matters for a pitcher as much), but it’s more than any one of the Mariner’s starters (since i last looked at them), and Luzardo is a very solid pitcher.
Nah, no GM is paying that. Luzardo, ok I can see it.
What do ppl think the asking price is for Cabrera?
I would say likely three top 100 prospects.
He has a career FIP of 4.78, with no season under 4.43. And a 6.0 BB9 last year.
1-2 top 100s and a few lotto tickets is more realistic imo
Yeah, that is most likely what he should be worth. However, with his stuff and the lack of pitching right now I wouldn’t be shocked by anything. Luis Castillo is a very good comp to his profile and we saw what the Mariners gave up. He’s erratic at the moment tho. Luzardo would most definitely dry out a teams farm on the other hand
Luis Castillo had hit a rough patch, but to my recollection was far more proven when dealt to Seattle than Cabrera is now…
Luzardo had one decent year career. The rest of his stats are terrible.
robw5555
Luzardo had one decent year career.
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You need to check out the stats before posting. He’s had two excellent seasons
You’re really sticking to that false narrative eh?
For Cabrera?? What has he proven? As an Orioles fan I think I’d be disappointed if we traded more than one top 100 prospect for him.
Not all top-100 prospects are created equally. Obviously, there’s an insurmountable gap between #1 Holliday and #93 Hall.
Cabrera is a MLB pitcher with some significant upside, cheap, and with five years of control. He’s still in his arbitration years. He’s likely more valuable than any one Orioles prospect outside of Holliday, maybe Basallo.
Seems that the Marlins are sending smoke signals that they’d be open to trading one of their starters in the right deal, but they’ll want potential impact talent back. What type of impact? Now? Or delayed? Their GM came from the Rays. He would have had access to all their talent evaluation. If he’s trying to build for the future, he might very well be open to multiple pieces outside the top 100 that the Rays valued more than the teams that have them. That is the Rays Way. Will it be the Marlins too?
I think Marlins should not trade a starting pitcher at all. They just need to sign one or two free agent bats and shoot for a wild card, which I think they will miss and maybe be only in the mid to high 70s in wins. They could really use Jorge Soler or JD Martinez, maybe also Duval. I know Belli is out of their price range. I just think Phillies, Padres, Dbacks and Cubs are all better, if you assume division winners are Dodgers, Atlanta and Reds. Cubs need another bat, Belli, Martinez or Soler, to be equal to the Reds. If Reds trade for Cease that could really be an asset for them, White Sox should be willing to take both Cam Collier and Edwin Arroyo for Cease by mid-February. That’s a high price, but if it gets Reds a division win, I think that would be a win-win deal.
Why would we assume the reds are the NL central winner? The dodgers and braves are obvious choices, but the central is wide open.
I think the Reds should be considered the early favorite, but I agree that the central is pretty wide open. The Brewers just improved a bit by bringing in Hoskins and could be somewhat sneakily pretty good next year, and the offseason isn’t over yet. I’m expecting the Cubs to make more moves, perhaps the Cardinals too.
Cubs lost Belli, Jenner and Stroman. They added Shota and Busch. Add Belli back and I think the Cubs are even with the Reds, maybe even JD or Soler is enough. Brewers adding Hoskins made a big difference, I agree. I still have them third, but the margin is not that great. Losing Woodruff is really tough. Cardinals added Sonny Gray a huge get but I still have them fourth. I do not believe Lance Lynn will still be on the roster by the all-star break whether they do better or not. Pirates I have last. So if I had to bet, it would be in the Reds if no teams signed further free agents. I hope Cubs sign a decent bat, I had picked Hoskins to Cubs before the trade for Busch. Not how I would have done it, but I have only seen a few at-bays by Busch where he looked over-matched, definitely a tiny sample not worth considering. I liked Vargas better than Busch with Dodgers.
They need a SS though and would probably need to trade a starting pitcher in order to get a decent one. And yes, JD Martinez would be a good fit for them, plus he’s from Miami.
This team has no money. JD Martinez would not come here unless it was the last resort and no real offers anywhere. Ill call that one 1000-1. against..
This team has zero money for free agents. Only released players, old guys with zero offers who will play for near nothing are on the radar here. Soler they made zero offers. JD Martinez only if he will take nothing. Even then they would trsade him mid season if he did well. They would use him as a lottery ticket in that way.
Until Cabrera proves that he himself is more than a top 100 “prospect” I don’t see his value being 3 top 100 prospects.
Agree theres some overvaluation of cabrera in this discussion board.
Agree. 4.01 career ERA and 4.24 last season. Most starts in season is 20. Has to show he is front of rotation starter to get more than 1 Top 100 prospect in return.
I’d be willing to bet just about anything that he tops all those numbers this up coming season.
I’d love it but he has to get the walks under control or he’ll continue to struggle w consistency
Would the Marlins be interested in a combo package of MLB players and prospects? The Rangers could offer a combo package.
Reds maybe?
Reds have SS a plenty to trade and even though they currently have a lot of young pitchers who still need to prove themselves never hurts to have a few more. Looks like Krall is done trading unless something really makes a lot of sense I would imagine. Reds need a RH hitting power OF bat more than anything right now.
The article linked to from the Miami Herald seems to think that is what they are looking for in trade. A MLB player and a top pitching prospect.
If Preller wasn’t dead in a ditch near Barstow, these would be flawless trade targets.
Article links to wrong Eury Perez.
How depressing for Marlins fans. They get into the postseason for first time in awhile and then completely stagnate or go backwards via inaction. That’s really going to help the turnstile action in Miami. It’s like a self-defeating circle of doom: nobody goes to Marlins games…Marlins have to cutback on payroll…even less people come out to Marlins games…Marlins have to cut even more payroll…etc etc etc. How depressing.
I mean, it’s a reasonable assumption on their part though. The last time they built a World Series winner they ranked 15/16 in the National League in attendance, and the year after the win they ranked 14/16. They’re consistently at the bottom in attendance, seemingly whether they’re good or not, so I don’t know what would bring more fans in. It sucks too because they’ve punted on some excellent players that they felt like they couldn’t afford.
They have never won the division. Even in the years that they won the world series, the buzz was minimal because they played at an average level all year. If a Marlins team comes out and tears it up, and continues tearing it up for a whole season, and then come back the next year and do it again, I GUARANTEE that the Ball park will be filled quite nicely. The Marlins have never had an owner that will allow the fanbase to have anything nice. Rebuild after rebuild that would not have to happen if they, for once, just invested in the team and fanbase, Other fans find joy in telling us Florida is horrible for Baseball (LIES. It’s not. 85 of 945, 9% MLB Roster spots are owned by Floridians). S. Florida should be amongst the biggest markets around, but ownership group after ownership group have dumped on the fanbase by not signing/re-signging players, being cheap, selling off homegrown players when they deserve to be paid, the FireSales, and the list goes on and on and on. Now you have a Jaded group, that will not support the team until they prove they are trying.
Right? I wish they would blowout their budget by overpaying for role players. Surely they’ll be able to make a deep postseason run if they do
What makes it even sadder is their new GM saying they won’t sign FA to deals longer than 1 year at all this offseason. Since they don’t really have any great prospects other than Noble Meyer, they will have to trade from the MLB roster and the only real “surplus” they have is starting pitching.
@Pads Fans
Right??? All I’m saying is that they should overpay some token players in order to placate those who are moaning on MLBTR
Read this on a Fish blog. Not sure how accurate it is. I will let the Fish fans on here tell us more. Fair warning, its a blog post so its not short. LOL.
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"While the Marlins have spoken with free agents, so far this offseason Bendix has steadfastly refused to go over 1 year on any free agent deals. He made a 1 year offer to IKF and Soler and others, but won’t go beyond that.
He has said that traditionally the return on investment is lower on FA signings than on trade acquisitions so he would like to pick up long term solutions through trades and that the free agent market has not been very good this offseason for the Marlins areas of needs. So to address them they will turn to trades.
Bendix has been saying that the Marlins #1 need is a shortstop and that he might address it in FA, but no one good will come to Miami for a 1 year deal as we found out when IKF took his glove to Toronto.. Edwards is a possibility but is better suited to 2B. Both his lack of power and average at best arm make starting at SS a longshot. While Chisholm played SS in the minors and was thought to be the SS of the future in Miami, Bendix said that he will stay in CF.
The Marlins 2nd most pressing need is at catcher. Bendix has said that they feel comfortable with Fortes and Bethancourt at catcher, but Fortes’ 52 OPS+ in 108 games last season (and 76 OPS+ in 3 seasons in the majors) and Bethancourt’s 74 OPS+ and .254 OBP make an upgrade a necessity. Preferably a good defensive catcher that can also hit for power.
Bendix has indicated he is less likely to trade away players that have more team control given the choice, so trading players with 2-3 years of team control like Luzardo or Arraez to fill areas of need, however unlikely, is a much higher probability than players that have been mentioned in trade talks like Cabrera and Garrett that have 5 years of team control.
The only area of strength on the Marlins roster, even after trading Lopez and Alcantara’s injury, is pitching.
The Marlins have been looking for solutions at the MLB level plus long term answers and not just at prospects. A change from previous years.
So what have the Marlins been asking for in trade talks?
A starting MLB shortstop.
A catcher.
High end pitching prospects.
They have engaged the PAdres in trade talks since the offseason started and have been especially interested in Ha Seong Kim and newly acquired Drew Thorpe from the San Diego Padres but have been rebuffed regarding Kim to date. Maybe that will change as it gets closer to the season.
If the Padres stand firm on Kim, a package that seems to fit the Marlins needs long term is Luzardo and Dane Myers for the Padres extraordinary prospect SS Jackson Merrill, RHP Drew Thorpe(MiLB pitcher of the year), C Brandon Valenzuela, RHP Victor Lizarraga, and 18 year old IF Rosman Verdugo. That is 2 top 100 prospects, 3 of the Padres top 10 prospects and 5 of their top 30.
But that doesn’t fit Bendix stated goal of trading for help at the major league level today.
So why not offer Luzardo and Arraez in a package deal? Lizard has 3 years of team control and Arraez just 2 and he is starting to get very expensive for Marlin's blood.
Maybe adding Arraez would be enough to move the Padres off their position that Kim is not available. Maybe the Marlins can get a 6 for 2 return like SS Kim, C Kyle Higashioka, MI/SS Eguy Rosario, RHP Drew Thorpe, RHP Jairo Iriarte, and a more long-term answer in the aforementioned 2B/SS prospect Rosman Verdugo that would help now and in the future?
That would be 3 guys that will plug into the major league roster immediately including
– one of the top 3 or 4 SS in MLB,
– a catcher that was the Yankees starter for most of last season,
– a MI that could step in immediately and challenge Edwards for the starting 2B position to replace Arraez and can also play a solid SS,
Plus,
– a close to MLB ready top 100 pitching prospect in Thorpe,
– another close to MLB ready pitching prospect in the Padres top 7,
– a highly regarded 18-year-old infield prospect.
Thorpe and Iriarte would slot into the Marlins farm system at #2 and #3/#4 and both pitched in AA last season so they are not that far away from the majors.
The Marlins get better at SS and catcher immediately, get a MI that can play 2B or SS and even 3B in a pinch, and two extremely good pitching prospects that are near MLB ready.
It would not save the Marlins much on payroll. The net savings would be around $4 million. Around $4 million because we don’t know what Arraez will get in arbitration yet.
Both Lizard and Arraez would be missed greatly, but this trade would help both the MLB team immediately and down the road with as many as 5 of these guys playing in Miami in 2024.
The Marlins will still have a solid starting pitching rotation with Max Meyer and Trevor Rogers able to step in immediately and Thorpe and Iriarte before seasons end.
Not sure if this is the answer mostly because Kim and Higashioka would be FA at the end of the 2024 season, but Bendix needs to step up and do something or playoff baseball will be a one and done thing in Miami and fans can look forward to looking up at the Braves, Phillies, and Mets in the standings in 2024..
If you don't like this potential deal, step up and write in your own."
I like it, but I’d like to see them go bigger. Resign Gary Sanchez, then Merrill and campusano for Braxton, max meyer, and jazz. Preller loves his shortstops, and iirc he was big on both Braxton and Meyer at one point.
Even as a padres fan this seems really short on the marlins side. Kim (1 year remaining) for arraez as a one for one I don’t see the marlins doing ( I get it’s not 1 for 1 but easier to breakdown that way) There is zero chance the marlins trade Luzardo for Thorpe (a mid top 100 guy) iriarte( a 100-150 rated prospect) plus a few B level players and prospects.
This is a 100% no for the marlins. Maybe if Kim had 3 years of control they would consider it.
Luzardo is worth more than Cease, white Sox are asking for 3 top 100 prospects and more for Cease. Now they are asking for too much but what they want is close to what Luzardo is worth.
I don’t see the Marlins trading away any high end talent for Kim. Trading away a more controlled player for a 1 year rental is a move that a team makes when they are all in on a season. Therefore they wouldn’t be moving Luzardo who would hurt them badly next year. If you switch out Kim for Merrill this type of deal looks more likely. Most likely still short.
The cost of Luzardo alone likely cost Merrill and a guy like Zavala. The cost of Arraez likely cost another top prospect like Thorpe and a lesser prospect or two.
This is without either trade being a big overpay which the marlins maybe seeking.
Merrill, Zavala, Thorpe and another 3 B level players 11-20 range on the padres.
Plus if Kim isn’t traded Arraez fit isn’t all that great position wise. So I don’t see him in any deal with the padres.
We have no idea what the White Sox are asking for Cease since no one has said anything other than they have not received an offer they liked.
This article from 2 weeks ago on MLB laid out possible trade scenarios for Cease and none included more than 1 Top 100 prospect
mlb.com/news/dylan-cease-trade-proposals
To say getting him would take 3 Top 100 prospects is a bit outrageous.
The 1 extra year of team control for Luzardo is valuable, but not 2 extra Top 100 prospects valuable. Luzardo could be worth 2 Top 100 prospects, but as the article in the Herald linked says, the Marlins are looking for both a MLB player and prospects.
The Marlins have both Rogers and Meyers returning, so they have a surplus of pitching which will get exacerbated in 2025 when Alcantara returns and Noble Meyer is MLB ready.
So what are the Marlins needs? According to the article, SS and catcher. That is what any trade would have to be built around.
Simm, that is hilarious. The White Sox are not likely to get more than one Top 100 prospect for Cease.
Can’t find the link, but about 2-3 weeks ago there was an article on MLB.com that showed 5 possible trade deals for him and not one of them even had 2 Top 100 prospects let alone 3.
Luzardo is not going to bring back much more. Maybe a 2nd top 100 player.
You also have to keep in mind that teams value players differently than just their prospect rank. Thinks like vicinity to the majors might make a player more valuable to a team than a player in low A that actually ranks higher for a team that wants to contend this year.
You proposed trade of Merrill, Zavala, Thorpe, and 3 more prospects for Luzardo and Arraez does not fit the Marlins needs at the MLB level in 2024. Its a cpmplete no-go.
It was literally reported on here they wanted 3 top prospects from the reds. Obviously they didn’t get that because no trade was made.
Btw it doesn’t matter how many of your accounts you log onto to make your point they are asking for more than a single top prospect.
As far as the marlins needs if they trade away Luzardo they aren’t looking at 24 as the season they are all in on.
They certainly won’t be trading him for Kim and a lower level prospect or any of the B level pieces you added with him.
Nowhere in that article did it say 3 Top 100 prospects. It said 3 Top prospects. That is a HUGE difference.
What I am hearing is you don’t like being shown that you are wrong so instead of addressing the issue, you spin to accusations of multiple accounts?
Just stick to the conversation and then go read that article on MLB.com about what Cease is ACTUALLY worth in trade.
Jeez guy. READ my post. Not my trade idea. I was asking for Fish fans thoughts on it, not Padres fans ideas on it.
Then go read the article by Barry Jackson that is linked on this article.
Another article today about the white Sox asking for the sun and the moon. Yes there was an article of what they asked for from the reds. Which was 3 top 100 prospects and 2 others.
Hey and article today that’s says a gm he spoke to is saying the Sox want the “sun and the moon”. That’s not 1 top 100 guy like you suggest. You can find a 100 articles that’s do trade ideas that doesn’t mean that’s what they want. If they wanted what you are suggesting then he would have been traded.
Now don’t get it wrong I don’t think he is worth near that but that doesn’t mean that’s not the price they are asking for.
The Marlins have no money. Bendix doesnt want to spent a dime. No players will take one yr deals unless they are washed up and old. For example Trey Mancini. Zero offers anywhere else. Miami is baseball purgatory. Scott, Luzardo, Arraez, could go at any minute. They hope Jazz has a good yr ,so they can move him. Any player headed to arbirtration is too rich for this team, so it doesnt matter if free agency is two or more yrs away. They dont want to pay arbitration. If Luzarzo would start the year and have a good half, they would hope they could get some team to overpay. So Bendix hopes that anyone who is not moved now has a decent first half so he can move them out.
@rob25555 has Bendix signed you as Gabe Kaplers assistant?
Luzardo and Cabrera are less than a year apart in age, but only Cabrera is described as “young.” Good to know where that line of demarcation lies.
Still think the Marlins & Reds matchup very well…. I also feel Cabrera is the most likely trade candidate for the Marlins as there were reports last year that he fell out of favor (over continued control issues) & he was out of options…
The Marlins are trying to win now so I think a package of Arroyo (top 100 prospect) not too far away (AA); Fraley (who I love but is the same player as Benson & redundant for the Reds).. He’s the MLB LH corner outfielder who mashes righties & gets on base a ton & is controlled for several more years that the Marlins would want.. I think this would be a good start to a package that could workout for both teams (man I’d hate to lose Jake “rake” Fraley but you have to give to get)…
Reds do seem like a natural fit but Krall has said he is done wheeling and dealing in any major way. Of course that could change if the right deal came along. I just went to baseball trade values and tried Arroyo (ss),
India (ss), Lyon Richardson (sp) and Fernando Cruz (rp). It came to a minor overpay by the Marlins. Admittedly I don’t know what else the Marlins might need so a player could be swapped in or out (Fraley instead of Richardson) but doubt the Reds can come get to what the baseball trade values would consider a even trade.
The Pirates have all the pieces to make a deal happen both major league pieces and minor league pieces. This is a no-brainer.
Marlins are like the Expos. A great place to shop for young talent. I wish the Mets would go shopping for Luzardo or Cabrera. A couple of the Mets best HR hitters came from the Marlins via trade. Piazza and Delgado.
What did the Mets win with Piazza and Delgado?
A couple of divisions and an NL pennant.
@seaver I’ve been hoping for months the mets would try for luzardo. The package would need to be substantial, but he fits their needs and window well. Acuna or mauricio plus Houck and Yovanny Rodriguez would be tough for the mets to part with, but i think its the level of what the marlins would want. Unfortunately none are MLB ready this year but long term that could be big for the marlins and perhaps foolish for the mets, but have to risk that for someone with luzardo’s skill and years of control.
Red Sox have top prospect Ceddanne Rafaela (who plays gold glove defense @ SS or CF). He isn’t a big bat prospect but Miami could plug him in at short immediately. Add some fillers and we can talk Cabrera or Luzardo
Do the Marlins actually have excess pitching, or even enough pitching?
Luzardo 30 GS
Garret 30 GS
Cabrera 30 GS but didn’t really pitch that well
Perez 25 GS on an IP limit
Rogers ??? Both a performance and injury risk
My guess is that they are going to be fishing around for another GS during the season.
The Tigers have some young pitching and some infield players and prospects.
The Tigers should try to get both Luzardo and Arraez. Only Jobe, Clarke and Madden should be unavailable, if that.
The Tigers’ FO appear to be running the team on minimum effort.
At least one fan feels fleeced.
Go for it!
Hire the Superfife!
Long, Olson, Ibanez….the Tigers have it.
Jung
Yes. By staying the course, the Tigers will get exponentially better, without doing anything.
LMFAOOOO
Given the Marlin’s reported reticence to trade Luzardo and higher likelihood of trading Cabrera… seems the O’s should make an strong offer for Luzardo and take Cabrera only as a fall back if the Marlins absolutely refuse to deal the more preferred/more proven lefty Luzardo.
O’s: Jesus Luzardo LHP
Marlins: Anthony Santander RF/1B
Kyle Stowers LF
Julio Urias 3B
Joey Ortiz SS
$4M in cash
Stowers gives you left pull side power for the future. That’s 3 immediate starters to the Marlin big league team and possibly even Stowers as a 4th.
Less if it ends up being Cabrera. I’d take the cash and maybe more off the table if Cabrera.
Top 100 prospects are great but experienced true major league starters can make a real difference for the 2024 season. I can’t see the Marlins turning this down with the immediate impact to their club. GG Urias has some pop. Santander is the O’s HR leader and Ortiz plus Urias makes the left side of the IF one of the better defensive duos immediately. Ortiz’s AAA offensive numbers were eye opening as well.
Unless you want to see more of what the Fish were trotting out there last year on the left side of the diamond.
I personally think this is too much but I’m considering this is Santander’s final yr under arb and is expensive (in John Angelo’s little mind).
The Yanks have depth at the middle infield and should be all over a trade for Garrett!!
I’d love to see a Luis Robert Jr trade for Lizard or Cabrera and others combo. He’s a beast with 4 more years control. We need power after anemic O.
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That’d be a great improvement to the Marlins but given Getz is trying to establish himself as the man in Chicago… I don’t see wrestling away Robert Jr away from them.
Just like I think Cease will be with them till the trade deadline — unless it’s an absurd haul, I don’t see Robert heading south.
““Luis Robert is a very difficult player to move and expect that your club is going to get better because of it,” said Getz. “We’re talking about one of the best players in baseball, and we’re very fortunate to have him with the Chicago White Sox. So I have a tough time seeing him wearing another uniform next year.””
I get it. He won’t be cheap yet their ownership has traded power for young pitching to us beforehand and they are rebuilding and he dn fit their winning window. Meyer or Meyers, White or even Perez straight up is worth it for this guy. Time will tell….