First baseman Josh Naylor has been a mainstay of the Guardians’ lineup for the past two seasons but free agency isn’t far over the horizon. He’s now over four years of major league service and slated for the open market after 2025. He was recently asked at Guards Fest about the possibility of an extension and it doesn’t appear as though there’s much smoke there.
“I’m going to leave that to them. You can ask them that question,” Naylor said, per Ryan Lewis of the Akron Beacon Journal. “Obviously, Cleveland’s an incredible place to play. I love my teammates, I love my coaches and, yeah, my brother’s here, too, which is awesome.”
Naylor, 27 in June, has hit 37 home runs over the past two seasons. His 7.2% walk rate is subpar but he’s been tough to strike out, with a 14.9% rate in that department. He slashed a combined .282/.336/.471 over those two campaigns for a 124 wRC+, indicating he was 24% better than league average over that span. He was also given solid grades for his glovework at first, helping him tally a combined 4.3 wins above replacement over those two years, in the eyes of FanGraphs.
Looking at the standard operating procedure of the franchise, there’s more precedent for a trade than an extension in this situation. As they look to continually compete with small budgets, the club has often traded players approaching free agency, bringing back younger and cheaper players. That’s how Naylor came to the club in the first place, as the Guards flipped Mike Clevinger and two other players to the Padres for a six-player package that included a young Naylor. In addition to Clevinger, they have also traded players like Corey Kluber, Trevor Bauer, Francisco Lindor and others as their club control was dwindling.
They have given some extensions over the years, but usually for players earlier in their careers. Players like Andrés Giménez, Emmanuel Clase, Trevor Stephan and Myles Straw have signed extensions with the club in recent years, but each of those guys agreed to their deals before reaching arbitration when their earning power was still fairly low. Naylor qualified for arbitration a year ago and made a salary of $3.35MM in 2023. He’s already agreed to a $6.5MM salary this year and will be slated for one more raise next year.
The notable exception to these trends is José Ramírez, who signed a second extension to stick with the club instead of getting traded or becoming a free agent. That seems to have been a perfect storm situation, with Ramírez having admitted that he was told the club couldn’t pay him what he was worth. But since he was happy in Cleveland and wanted to stay, he decided to leave money on the table and accept an extension rather than winding up on the trade block like so many others before him.
Those circumstances all suggest Naylor is more likely to be traded than extended. Beyond his contractual situation, there’s also the fact that the club may have a ready-made first base replacement. Kyle Manzardo was acquired from the Rays in last summer’s Aaron Civale deal, yet another instance of an arb-eligible player being shipped out of Cleveland for prospect help. Manzardo is a first baseman who has yet to make his major league debut but has hit well throughout his minor league career thus far. Like Naylor, he is generally tough to strike out with the ability to hit a few bombs.
The club doesn’t have a strict designated hitter at the moment, so both could fit into a lineup. That will likely be the plan if Manzardo hits well in Spring Training this year or early in the 2024 season. But if he is able to successfully prove himself as a capable big league bat, it would fit with Cleveland’s typical M.O. for the Naylor trade rumors to pick up steam. This winter, he’s already reportedly drawn trade interest from the Cubs, Mariners and Pirates.
User 3014224641
Screw the Dolan family
Chrome 8550
Nobody in the cleveland media has the guts or testicles to ask Paul Dolan on tough question. When is the david blister and Matt kaulding going to take over majority ownership ofthe guardians.
layventsky
Blitzer has an option to purchase the controlling stake several years from now. But who’s to say he’ll spend more on player payroll than the Dolans?
OIC2021
You’re going after the wrong guy.
ROB MANFRED IS A DO NOTHING COMMISSIONER who has tied the Dolans hands by not fixing the inequality that exists with other MLB teams over the Diamond /Ballys tv fiasco.
Memo to Manfred: ACT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF BASEBALL and restrict other teams actions until the Diamond Sports / Bally situation is resolved . At a minimum, he should guarantee the Guardians tv revenue through MLB and the other owners so they can conduct business.
HatlessPete
OIC, idk what you mean by restrict other teams actions but if you imagine Manfred can restrict teams’ spending on player payroll, you clearly don’t understand that the CBA doesn’t allow the commissioner to unilaterally restrict teams spending on player salaries
OIC2021
But he can control when teams can sign players
He’s the Commissioner and he’s supposed to act in the best interests of baseball!!!!!
Gtfdrussell
both things can be true at the same time. yes, Manfred is killing baseball and Cleveland specifically related to Diamond, but that doesn’t mean Dolan isn’t a horrible owner.
basquiat
Manfred does what the owners tell him to do. He’s not a free agent. I don’t know why baseball writers never talk about that.
YourDreamGM
They sound ok enough for me. Are they demanding a new ball park and threatening to leave if they don’t get one and I haven’t heard?
Thought they did well in mid late last decade. Payroll 120 130m. Unfortunately attendance went down even with a winning team and payroll soon followed. Then the health thingy that was all the news.
Excellent trading Lindor. Rather use it on the 2 other large extensions they did. I would have sold high and traded those guys so of you hate Dolan you would really hate me.
Gtfdrussell
attendance has increased the last 3 seasons. it’s back in the range of the middle of last decade. There were rumors of them leaving for Nashville until the city and state gave subsidies for ballpark improvements. Payroll in that range is still below median range. Dolan is a horrible owner.
YourDreamGM
He spent as much as any team in a comparable market. More than most. Either Cleveland Pittsburgh Milwaukee Cincinnati Kansas City all have awful owners or 130m payroll is the limit these markets allow.
OIC2021
Yeah so terrible they’ve had more playoff appearances than the Yankees in the last 7 years
Gtfdrussell
$130 million was 1 year. I’ll accept your argument that $130 million is the limit if there were any consistency where they operate close to that. 1 time in 15 years has Cleveland been in the top half of payrolls, and they were 15th. Dolan has put good people in place in the Front Office, that’s for sure. and I give him credit for that. Through this issue with Bally Sports, we have learned that income from Bally is around $55 million annually, by several reports. 3 years of that since the pandemic year has been the entirety of the payroll during that period, yet attendance has increased.
In nurse follars
That’s right. Screw Dolan so he moves the team to Nashville or Charlotte! That will teach him! Then Guardians fans can drive to Akron for a MINOR league game.
OIC2021
Indians
OIC2021
Vote Bernie Moreno instead of Matt Dolan for Ohio Senate
acoss13
The writing is definitely on the wall, the 6.5 million he’s getting is a lot for the ever frugal Cleveland ownership, plus Manzardo is knocking at the door to take over for Naylor. I wouldn’t mind the Cubs making a trade for him, lefty bat with power, decent on-base, tough to strikeout, and he’s got moxie.
solaris602
And most of all the dude is clutch. Unlike Straw who is a professional rally-killer, Naylor comes through when the chips are down. That aspect doesn’t grow on trees.
vtadave
Offer him 5/60 and hope for the best.
TrumboRedux
Is this the popular article to comment on tonight?? Or should I get back to the HOF write-up?
acoss13
Trumbo, the HOF article is definitely the popular one tonight! I just expressed my good wishes at all three inductees, but moved on. I’d rather keep my opinion to myself lol
TrumboRedux
Yeah acoss, I’ve said my peace there myself and already over it haha. Hoping for a big signing tonight. Anywhere. Just something haha
acoss13
I’ll take a trade too, get this free agency moving forward lol
YourDreamGM
Both articles nothing burgers. Trade Naylor. Extend him for team friendly extension. Either would be good. Just don’t give him free agent $. I follow baseball. Don’t need clueless writers telling me who is hall of fame worthy. Don’t need to see clueless commenters arguing about it.
TrumboRedux
Not every commenter on there tonight is clueless luckily. A lot of good insights and takes tonight. Go over and take a peek. Be bold.
YourDreamGM
Definitely not everyone. I would say 3 percent know a decent enough amount. Another 10 percent realize they aren’t there yet but are wanting to get there. I just don’t care about the hall of fame. Don’t care about media’s opinions. They don’t anything about player evaluation.
YankeesBleacherCreature
So only your own way of player analysis and opinions matter?
PutPeteinthehall
Had a terrible leg injury. Surprised he’s a ranked positively as a fielder. Good player and probably not getting a huge AAV contract ever. Good value for another team. He’s already too expensive for the Guards. No way they pay him next season. He’s gone at the deadline or next offseason.
CKinSTL
He is pretty solid at first. He is especially good at picking balls out of the dirt.
Chrome 8550
Naylor will get 12 million in arbitration in 2025 just watch.
CKinSTL
I love watching Naylor play but with his build and injury history, he doesn’t seem like a guy that is going to age very well. He is already limited defensively to 1B (which he plays pretty well). Up until last season, it was questionable whether he could hit lefties well enough to be an everyday player. With Manzardo around, it seems like just a matter of time before Naylor is traded.
Jaysfansince92
He’s only going to be 27 next year. He should still have at least half a dozen good years left.
jorge78
A team owned by billionaires…..
Jaysfansince92
I would love to see the Jays trade for him. His LHB would be a perfect fit in their lineup. Bonus points for being Canadian. It’s too bad the Jays don’t have some good hitting prospects, so they could maybe aquire both brothers. That would be my dream scenario.
pingston
Well, call me a Jays fan since 77, so we share a few years of fandom — I’m hearing in Toronto that the Jays have kept channels open with the Guardians this winter. Whether it’s a Naylor they want or José Ramírez, the Jays have prospect capital to spend if they want to and Cleveland is willing.
Like others here I’m waiting for the final load out to start with lingering free agents. Wish somebody was a fly on the wall at Boras or one of the other big agencies…
hockeyjohn
Why can’t Jays fan get that Jose Ramirez has a no trade clause and is never going to be a Blue Jay? Where is this great farm system? Other than Tiedemann, the Jays farm is lacking any firepower.
Cuso
Ham-and-egger
Ranger Danger19
Trading players to stay in business is a problem.
Old York
Not sure what to make of his 2023 season. Seems like a bit of an outlier from his career I don’t think the Indians have any desire to extend him and will probably hope he has a decent year in 2024 so they can flip him to another team.
I’m projecting the following for him in 2024:
BA: 0.270
OBP: 0.321
Hits: 125
K: 83
BB: 35
HR: 17
solaris602
As long as CLE doesn’t get any more middle infielders in return, he should bring back one or two significant pieces.
CrikesAlready
Hahaha… The Padres’ AJ Preller traded away the first baseman they needed for a guy who pitched a few innings and bopped horizontally with Lindsey Hill. Great move, AJ!
Piro
Cerrano want to bat
CO Guardening
Love Nayls, and he plays with heart and hustle, but you gotta wonder how well he can hold up never having played a full season. If the Ians are gonna trade him, his value is pretty high now, but Cleveland needs a consistent bat in its lineup more than anything. And if the eldest Naylor shower us anything last year, it was superb plate discipline and timely hitting.
LordD99
He’ll be traded by midseason if Cleveland is out of the race, or at season’s end. Heck, they might trade him at midseason even if they’re in the thick of a pennant race!
solaris602
They could package him with Bieber and Clase to CHC, but the problem is I just don’t see the Cubs having what the Guardians need in return, and that’s a righty hitting corner OF who can produce runs. If any Cubs fans know of major league ready players in the system who could fill that need, I’m all ears.
Tacoboutahit
“I want all the smoke!”
That’s what I think of everytime I see this guy. One of my favorite jomboy breakdowns. Wish he played for my twins.