Tigers manager A.J. Hinch was a guest on the New York Post’s podcast with Jon Heyman and Joel Sherman this afternoon. The veteran skipper addressed the team’s infield as part of a wide-ranging conversation.
Detroit heads into Spring Training with some uncertainty at both second and third base. The Tigers didn’t have a set starter at either position last season. No single player even reached 250 plate appearances while manning one of those spots. The Tigers haven’t gone outside the organization for any infield acquisitions aside from corner outfielder/first baseman Mark Canha.
On the heels of last week’s near-$29MM extension, top prospect Colt Keith appears the presumptive starter at the keystone. Asked by Sherman whether Keith could make the Opening Day roster, Hinch replied the 22-year-old will “have to come and earn it.” Hinch called it the organization’s expectation that Keith will perform well enough in Spring Training to break camp but stressed the contract alone won’t guarantee him a season-opening job.
As one would expect, Hinch went on to speak effusively of Keith’s offensive upside. The left-handed hitter is coming off a huge year in the upper minors. Keith opened the year with a .325/.391/.585 showing over 59 games at Double-A Erie. He continued hitting after a late-June promotion to Triple-A Toledo. Keith ran a .287/.369/.521 slash in 67 contests with the Mud Hens. He walked at a strong 11.9% clip while keeping his strikeouts to a modest 19.3% rate. Overall, he connected on 27 homers and 38 doubles with a .306/.380/.552 batting line to cement himself among the sport’s most promising offensive prospects.
Keith’s defensive fit isn’t as clear. He’d been a third baseman for the bulk of his career but has seen increasing large portions of time at second in recent years. Hinch confirmed that Keith would play mostly at the keystone moving forward, although he indicated the young infielder could still see occasional reps at the hot corner.
If Keith indeed grabs hold of the second base job, that could push a handful of Detroit’s multi-positional infielders more frequently to third. Zach McKinstry, Andy Ibáñez and Nick Maton all took reps at both positions a year ago. Matt Vierling made 27 starts at third while opening 94 contests throughout the outfield.
Hinch suggested the Tigers were content to mix and match at third base. In response to an inquiry from Heyman about the possibility of going outside the organization for a clearer upgrade, the manager spoke of the team’s comfort with “optionality for (players) to emerge.” Hinch said the team planned to give playing time to each of Ibáñez, McKinstry and Vierling — in addition to any reps which Keith might pick up — and opined they’ll “be able to piece it together and maybe have a better player than (they would’ve with) one singular guy.”
Specifically, the manager pointed out the possibility for “a natural platoon” between the right-handed hitting Ibáñez and the lefty-swinging McKinstry. Ibáñez, claimed off waivers from the Rangers last offseason, had a quietly effective season after being promoted to the majors at the end of April. He hit .264/.312/.433 over a career-high 383 trips to the plate. He did most of his damage against left-handed pitching, connecting on six homers and nine doubles with a .261/.297/.523 line over 118 plate appearances versus southpaws.
Detroit acquired McKinstry on the eve of Opening Day. While he got out to an excellent start, his production cratered from June onwards. He ended the season with a well below-average .230/.297/.356 slash through 472 plate appearances against right-handers. That’s not enough offense for a strong side platoon player, so he’d need to put together better results if he’s to log that kind of playing time now that Detroit has more serious postseason aspirations.
Vierling, a righty hitter, profiles as both a third base option and a fourth outfielder behind Canha, Parker Meadows and Riley Greene. The former Phillie was a league average player in his first season in Detroit, hitting .261/.329/.388 with 10 homers across 530 plate appearances.
Prospects Justyn-Henry Malloy and Jace Jung have third base experience, but neither is sure to make an impact at the position in 2024. Baseball America’s scouting report on Malloy suggests he’s likelier to play the corner outfield because of throwing accuracy issues on the infield dirt. Jung, the 12th overall pick in 2022, finished last year in Double-A. He could play his way into the mix at some point in the year but will start the season in the upper minors.
Liberalsteve
Can you imagine a lineup with these hitters down the stretch?
Keith
Jung
Torkelson
Greene
Carpenter
Canha
Baez
Rogers
Meadows
1000 runs
Jeff Zanghi
I genuinely can’t tell if this is sarcasm or overhyped expectations for a bunch of promising but unproven players. Like to be perfectly honest… if all players listed plus Malloy even… wind up living up to their potential this could indeed be a formidable lineup in the not so distant future. But it’s absolutely not anywhere near a 1000 run offense in 2024 haha… but it’s also not like you’re listing a bunch of scrubs and clearly joking… they, as I said, given time to develop very well could be a formidable lineup… not 1000 runs formidable most likely but also not some sort of laughing stalk.
Liberalsteve
Imagine a righty having to pitch to:
1.Greene
2.Cahna
3.Carpenter
4.Torkelson
5.Keith
Good luck
❤️ MuteButton
Enthusiasm is good but in reality that’s not anything above the average American league team. In fact, less than average
TheGreatBaseballMind
I’ll take the under.
D-Nice
I love Detroit and their potential, but I, too, will take the under. In fact, for 2024 I’ll go under 800 too.
LordD99
Too liberal of a take, Steve.
Way under. Way.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Could Detroit have an Elvis sighting at 3B?
dkhits20
Highly highly doubt it. He wouldn’t be much of an upgrade over what we already have at this point.
Tigers3232
They won 4 less games than the Yankees last season. Unlike the Yankees they did not have a bunch of aging high priced SPs injured, just a bunch of promising young arms with years of team control…
Motor City Beach Bum
I’m sure your next Clint Frazier or Miguel Andujar is on the way. Yanks are fragile. Hopefully you don’t break your new toy Soto too.
dkhits20
Vierling is more like the 5th outfielder. You forgot about Carpenter.
jammin464_
Good point, but my guess is that Carpenter will DH more than play outfield. I’m also guessing Vierling plays more 3rd than outfield in ’24.
stymeedone
Carpenter made huge strides defensively last year. Why Hinch would decide to make him a DH makes no sense. I see him being rotated thru the DH spot, but the right handed DH option should be Malloy.
For Love of the Game
Viewing, McKinstry, and Ibanez can take turns while Jung continues to develop on the minors. The Tigers might make the playoffs, but aren’t likely WS candidates and shouldn’t feel pressured to trade for or sign somebody.
Liberalsteve
yes, the are ws contenders
mlb fan
” Are ws contenders”…Let the Tigers make the playoffs for the first time in a VERY long time, before you elevate them to WS contenders. You typically have got to walk, before you can run.
Dogs
2006
wileycoyote56
Everyone is WS contender in January, it’s April that begins the separation lol
Liberalsteve
irrelevant. 2023 team has nothing to do with 2024. Every ab and pitch is an independent trial between the batter and pitcher.2024 Rangers vs Tigers game has nothing to do with what the rangers did
Manfred Rob's Earth Band
I bet you are the life of the party aren’t ya…
stymeedone
If you make the playoffs, that makes you a contender.
WestVillageTiger
It seems to me that the ‘24 Tigers are in the position that the Lions were in before the ‘23 season — expected to finish above .500, win a weak Division and take a Wild Card series. Anything beyond that, they’ll be playing with house money…
warnbeeb
Ibanez is stealthy good.
baseballteam
AJ Hinch discusses photograph with individuals standing awkwardly with hands protecting junk.
Roger Beshen's Patented FootballSlider
Hinch keeps banging away.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Stuck in purgatory.
Alvo Sumatro
Miggys presence in the lineup will definitely be missed.
TheGreatBaseballMind
Yes. By opposing pitchers. 🙂 I think you are being sarcastic.
kodion
He DID say presence, not bat.
Dogs
Andy Ibañez batting splits last year:
Against Right-handed Pitchers PA-265…HR5…AVG-.265…OBP-..318..SLG-.392
Against Left-Handed Pitchers PA-118…HR-6…AVG-.261…OBP-.297…SLG-.523
Andy can handle Right-Handed Pitching just fine.
He had a slow start & his second half of the year was Very, Very Good.
acoss13
Hinch is avoiding the elephant in the room. Hopefully Javy Baez can turn it around. In the meantime enjoy his defensive wizardry Tigers fans!
Jeff Zanghi
I’ll preface this with I am not a DET fan so maybe missing something obvious but… why would one write/speculate that Henry-Malloy isn’t expected to have an impact in 2024… he spent all of last season at AAA, seemed to perform quite well and let’s be honest… it’s not like Detroit is loaded and couldn’t find at-bats for a young player. I totally understand if you want to argue he isn’t equipped for 3B but the article seems to sound as though it’s implying he’s not even close to the majors… which I guess I’m just not understanding what would indicate that…? (genuinely curious/asking not being sarcastic)
Dogs
No Position! He is bad on defense at every position they have tried him at. He can hit though. DH may be his only hope. Tigers will start the season without him is still my guess.
Anthony Franco
Yeah, I meant that he’s not a guarantee to factor in at third base because of the defensive questions. Just updated the post to make that clearer. I think he’ll be part of the MLB team at some point this year, but it probably requires an injury to someone in the starting outfield or Kerry Carpenter at DH.
dkhits20
Yeah, It’s kind of a mess. We could use Malloy’s bat, but Riley Greene is going to see plenty of PA’s at DH this season (coming off an injury), as will Carpenter and Torkelson, so I’m not sure there are enough PA’s to give him if he can’t play a decent… something. He’s too good of a hitter to leave in AAA, and trading him this early turns the Joe Jimenez trade into a major fail as we’d now have to sell him as a 24-year-old DH. In a perfect world, he’s been spending every waking day of the offseason working on improving at 3B and will pleasantly surprise us this Spring by being passable.
cpdpoet
Vierling and Maton are best used as part time role players. They did a great job as part of the Phillies’ Daycare group. Maton got exposed a bit w/ regular pa’s and Vierling should best be deployed as a multi-positional “6th man” type. Hopefully they can grow into those roles as Detroit climbs back to the playoffs.
It will be cool to continue to follow them as I did last year.
Phillies missed them a bit last year for sure.
Melchez17
I like Vierling but I would be more than happy if they would send Sands, Maton and Vierling back for Soto. Soto was a bit wild, but he was a solid lefty in the pen. 85.5% save rate lifetime… that is almost Mariano Rivera territory (89.1%).
WestVillageTiger
We’ll see how Keith adjusts to MLB pitching and whether a platoon with Ibanez makes sense in the short run. A Vierling/McKinstry platoon at third makes a ton of sense on paper but leaves an opening for an always-ready utility player.
Melchez17
Your options at 3B are Maton, McKinstry, Vierling and Ibanez? Maton was terrible at 3B and couldn’t hit. McKinstry started out great but was a disaster after the all star break. Seemed like he was a better 2B than 3B. Neither were all that great. Vierling, I like but more as a 4th outfielder than anything else. Ibanez started out slow but finished decently. He looked better at 2B than 3B.
I really think the best option would be a trade with the Cards for Nolan Gorman. Lefty power bat blocked by Arenado. They moved him to 2B and he’s decent, but they have plenty of 2B’s in their system. Donovan, Edmans, Fermin, Kennedy, Saggese, Gamboa… Send a couple pitchers… Manning and Olson? I trust Fetter to build decent starting pitching. At least until Jobe is ready.
The farm in Detroit has no 3B on the horizon. Jung wasn’t considered a decent 2B when he was drafted and now he’s the future 3B? Workman can’t stop striking out. Lipcius? Very very thin at 3B.
Another option could be Matt Chapman. The guy is a gold glover at 3B. If you like the way Torkelson hits, then you would love Chapman… 92.6 exit velo… 51% hard hit rate… 10.6 % walk rate… all better than Tork and he’s a gold glove 3B.
Signing Chapman you don’t have to worry about 3B for 6 years. Plenty of time for someone to develop (Nestor Miranda?)
I don’t think the Cards will deal Gorman, I say offer Chapman 6 years at $25 mil a year and see what happens. He may not be a number 3 or 4 hitter, but he can be a very solid 6 or 7 and you know he can handle 3B.
CF P Meadows
LF Canha
DH/RF Greene
1B Tork
RF/DH Carpenter
3B Chapman
2B Keith
SS Baez
C Rogers
kodion
Melchez17
Didn’t the Detroit News report that the Tigers were out on Chapman at 1 year/$20 million?
For Love of the Game
Really? Who wouldn’t take Chapman at 1 yr./$20 mill.?
kodion
motorcitybengals.com/posts/matt-chapman-detroit-ti…
…referencing a Detroit News article
Melchez17
That’s why they are a sub .500 team. They knew they had no 3B last year and they did nothing to fix it. They are doing the same this year.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
No to $25M for a #6 hitter…..
That’s not right!
Motor City Beach Bum
They tried out Maton, Vierling, McKinistry, Ibanez at 3B. They didn’t light the world on fire and weren’t the solution. Hindsight being 20-20 they should have signed Cadelario short term but again has not the long term solution. Keith was hurt and Malloy sucks at 3B there so they are trying Jung to see if he can play 3B. They are clearly looking for solutions.
I’d rather they wait for next year and either try Jung or sign Bergman. Chapman is not the solution long term. On a one year deal maybe or like you said pick up a younger hitter like Gorman.
stymeedone
Chapman would also cost a pick.
Melchez17
A third round pick… a gold glove 3B with 20 homer power and .340 OBP is definitely worth a third round pick.
Chapman was mostly cleanup or number 5 hitter for a pretty solid Blue Jay offense. He would probably be the same in a Tiger lineup.
WestVillageTiger
Here’s how I see the position groups if the season started today:
DH – Greene, Malloy
1B – Torkelson
2B – Keith, Ibanez(Utility)
SS – Baez
3B – McKinstry(Utility), Vierling
LF – Baddoo, Cahna(Utility)
CF – Meadows
RF – Carpenter
Melchez17
I am rooting for Wenceel Perez to have an amazing spring and force them to use him at 2B. A speedy switch hitter that has had great OBP in the minors.
Leadoff hitter for the next 6 years.
Why can’t the Tigers have guys like that come out of nowhere?
the good donald
I wonder if Harris has a problem with switch hitters. By the end of last off season, all the switch hitters from the 2022 team were gone (Candelerio, Reyes, Grossman, Barnhart and Willi Castro). It seems like the Tigers prefer lefty/righty platoons these days.
the good donald
Granted all of those guys performed mediocre as hell (if not badly in the case of Reyes), but they mainly replaced by other fairly mediocre players.
vtadave
He’d probably be okay with Jose Ramirez.
Motor City Beach Bum
They were all gone because they had bad years, not vecause they were switch hitters. Those 5 hitters were all pretty bad. Everything fell apart hitting wise that year for the team. A few recovered with new teams, but who could predict that. Reyes and Barnhart were of no use at all.
WestVillageTiger
C – Rogers/Kelly
Lest I forget.
From my list, Baddoo and Malloy are likely to feel a roster squeeze first.
Melchez17
See if the Rays would like Malloy… Paredes is starting to make some money, they might want to replace him. The Rays could turn Malloy into a .300/.400/.500 hitter and a solid defender at 3B. It’s what they do.
Motor City Beach Bum
They should NEVER trade with the Ray’s again 😉 It would take a lot more than Malloy to get Paredes now. I like Paredes and Arozarena but trading with the Ray’s scares me. I’d hate to see Malloy go there and end up being Yandy Diaz II. I think Malloy is going to be a solid hitter
Melchez17
Oh no… the Rays would send a player about to implode… Paredes would go somewhere else in a deal for a future Cy Young.
Motor City Beach Bum
The Tigers would have to give up a lot to get Paredes and Arozarena but if they went out and grabbed them both tomorrow I’d be a pretty happy camper. Paredes can field, unlike Malloy so as much as I like Malloy’s bat, we have lots of players with similar profiles to him. Add Paredes for 3B, Arozarena for a corner OF with Meadows and Greene eventually, Carp at DH, Tork at 1B, Keith at 2B, Baez at SS and Rogers at C. That’s a pretty good lineup. But…I would imagine the cost for those two players would be steep. Steep but probably worth it to fill two holes with solid players.
its_happening
That’s how you handle the Keith situation. Earn the job. Like that answer by Hinch.
Libpwnr
So the plan is they have no plan, got it. Keep doling out the $$$$’s to the slap-dicks
Melchez17
$11.5 mil to a 35 year old LFer that can’t play anywhere else and has no power and no speed. Sad part is Tiger fans are excited about this type of move.
Harrison Bader was younger and cheaper and he provides gold glove defense in CF.
Kiermaier also.
Same walk and K rates…
Not only do they pay more for Canha… it cost them a middling prospect.
stymeedone
Bader and Kiermaier are CF and the Tigers have Meadows for CF. Plus you can’t provide GG defense from the IL, which is a most common place for both of them.
Melchez17
I like Parker Meadows and he did great in his small cup of coffee last year. I hope he does just as well this year.
Tigers could have added that righty bat in Bader and had a gold glove CF and have Meadows play right or left. That would make a much better outfield than anything with Canha in it.
Canha is 35 and will probably show it this year.
Motor City Beach Bum
And Canha gets on base more which was an issue with the team last year.
TigersFan55
Just maybe Scott will pull off a trade and surprise us all.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Sad.
Hire the Superfife!
This entire time, the Tigers should have been hiring FA players for trade to build up prospects and FULFILL THEIR OBLIGATION to entertain thier LOYAL FANS.
10 years is long time. You think they would have saved up by now.
gotigers68
Fantastic !! The revolving door at 2nd and 3rd, for another year. Yippee !!