There’s been ample speculation about the eventual price tag of a Yoshinobu Yamamoto contract, but until early this week, the right-hander hadn’t discussed specific years and dollars with clubs, ESPN’s Jeff Passan reports.
Teams eyeing the NPB ace’s services were asked to submit a “preliminary” bid early in the process to gauge the seriousness of their interest, per Passan, but a follow-up round of more concrete bidding hadn’t taken place prior to this week. Yamamoto has met with several teams recently, presumably to familiarize himself with each organization and the systems and personnel in place at each potential landing spot. Entering the week, no teams had made a formal offer of $300MM or more, despite speculation to the contrary; none, in fact, had submitted a formal offer even beyond that preliminary bid. Passan wrote that some clubs have tried to broach the subject of years and dollars, but Yamamoto’s camp preferred to hold off until this week.
The Yankees, Mets, Dodgers, Giants, Red Sox, Phillies and perhaps the Blue Jays among the teams reported to have met with Yamamoto over the past 14 days. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic characterized both the Phillies and Blue Jays as teams more on the periphery of the bidding as of this morning, however (video link). It takes only one aggressive bid to change that perception, of course, but it’s notable that they’re being framed in that manner at present.
The two New York clubs have long been known to be serious bidders for Yamamoto, though the manner in which he fits into each club’s landscape of potential offseason moves is quite different. The Yankees, for instance, have no intention of easing up even if they miss on Yamamoto. If they can’t lure the 25-year-old righty to the Bronx, Rosenthal suggests they’ll look to bolster the roster elsewhere. Among the possibilities he lays out are a run at bringing Jordan Montgomery back to the Bronx or perhaps building a stacked bullpen with pursuits of top-tier relievers like Josh Hader, Jordan Hicks and Robert Stephenson.
That seems to be a direct contrast to how the Mets are approaching the situation. The Athletic’s Will Sammon wrote over the weekend that the Mets are focused on Yamamoto and Yamamoto alone; they’re not expected to change course and pursue other marquee additions if Yamamoto ultimately signs elsewhere. Mike Puma of the New York Post reports that the Mets will submit a formal offer to Yamamoto in the next couple of days, adding that the team’s expectation has been that Yamamoto will reach a decision before next Monday. That’s entirely dependent on the player’s mindset, of course; Yamamoto’s 45-day negotiation window with MLB clubs doesn’t draw to a close until Jan. 4.
MLBTR polled readers last week, with more than 27% indicating they believe Yamamoto will sign somewhere between $300-325MM, not including the posting/release fee owed to his former club, the Orix Buffaloes. The Yankees and Dodgers were the top predicted landing spots, with both drawing about 22% of the vote (though the Yankees technically garnered 88 more of the 17,000+ votes than the Dodgers).
I hope it’s a surprise team that signs him.
did he switch to boras as his agent?
Let the games begin!
He would effectively surrender any chances of winning if he had boras as his agent.
Boras is like the friend that would introduce you to fentanyl because he believes it will benefit both of you equally; completely disregarding you, and your fans long term well being.
As much as I dislike Boras, the comparison is just stupid. The player knows who Boras is when he signs with him. That said, the player is the one who says yay or nay to a deal and it’s the player who ultimately decides where he’s going to play if there are multiple offers.
No, it’s a juicy comparison. Boras only cares about moneyyyyyyy.
Other agents seem to listen, process, produce a good mix of money, location, winning for their players.
I had a friend who convinced me to try ecstasy and romanticized it, making it seem like it was harmless when it was actually playing with the devil.
Fans are silly.
I feel you. Spuds Mackenzie darn near ruined my life.
Yeah not many players switch to Boras. He usually signs his guys when they are young and takes them through the draft, minors, call up and then through FA. I can only think of a few players off hand that have jumped to Boras from another agency. A few teams do not like working with him. Boras was a big reason Scherzer had such a hard time finding a contract when he first hit FA in Detroit. He got lucky the Nationals were hoping to earn a bit of goodwill for when Strasburg and Harper hit FA. Surprise they got none.
If you have a favorite player, and Boras is his agent, you can almost guarantee he won’t see him on your team again.
100%
it won’t be, it will be one of the three teams with oodles of $. THat’s MLB!
Once again, it’s the usual suspects. Toronto, Giants, Red Sox and both NY teams, with the Phillies, if it’s true, finally getting into the running for one of the higher end FA. Surprisingly, one top player the cubs haven’t been mentioned as “interested” in. My guess is the Mets. I can’t see anyone out bidding Cohen.
Highest bid is not going to land Yamamoto!!!
Lost touch with reality? Did you miss the last few years where they signed Harper, Wheeler and now Nola this year? There are 13 teams that haven’t signed a FA to a bigger deal in their existence (a lot not even close) than the 3rd largest contract the Phillies have given over the last 5 years. I would love for my team to spend like yours does. Hell, even Cole Hamels from over a decade ago beats 10 teams for top contract.
wrong its almost always highest bid for japan players
Agree Cohen will have the highest offer. Phils need to save their money to resign Wheeler next year. If they signed Yama and resigned Wheeler along with Nola, Turner, Harper, and all their other high salaried players they will have the highest payroll in MLB in 2025. They’d blow through the luxury tax threshold. They’d be looking at a $300+ M payroll.
@avenger 65 I can’t see Yamamoto taking Cohen’s money. Even 5m a year over 10 years won’t be enough to lure a kid looking for a HOF career with one of the dynasties.
@Joe Kerr Wheeler will be 35 as a FA. The Phillies already look to park themselves in the toilet with 7 years to the ordinary Nola and more and more post-30 seasons from Harper, Castellanos, Schwarber, Walker.
They had a chance to pull back from the brink. Instead they scrod themselves.
What stars do they have under 30—adding a 35 yo on a 3, 4, 5 year deal? It starts to smell of what the Nationals did in re-signing Strasberg, but it’s not even nostalgia for a WS win. Just a WS appearance.
Forgot, all free agents want to be a Dodger now and they don’t do it for the money even though the Dodgers offer the most money!
Lol. Whatever you say Jack. Maybe pay attention to AAV instead of age. Phillies will be just fine.
Exactly. No one other teams seem to even be bothering to sign players and everyone wants to sign up for the easy ring in LA.
Joe Kerr: I said THIS year. What top player have they signed? What top player have they shown any interest in signing? And Nola doesn’t count as this year because he was a Phillie all along. He merely re-signed. Now who’s living in another dimension?
@Avenger…So, you’re doubling down on that comment, interesting. Nola doesn’t count huh?? You DO realize, he WAS a free agent, no? If he doesn’t count, can you share him with my pitiful team? Since those Nola dollars don’t count, the Phillies can actually go out and get Snell for the same cost and it will only count against the cap once, since you know, Avenger said so.
Let me ask you this, how many guys have signed a deal this off-season for over 100 million, and how many of them signed with the Phillies? Then list out all the other teams who haven’t and let me know which one you would rather be a fan of…I’m waiting on the edge of my seat for ya….
With most players money means more than playing for a Dynasty. Yama is such a great player he wants to create his own legacy. He doesn’t need the Yankees or Dodgers to do that.
He’s also signing a 10 year deal. The Yankees just traded away many of their good young players for Soto. Farm system sucks. They also missed the playoffs last year. If Soto doesn’t resign that team is done for the next 5 years. Also does Yama want to be third fiddle to Ohtani and Betts with the Dodgers and Soto and Judge with the Yanks. He is the main man with the Mets and we have a higher ranked farm system than both the Dodgers and Yankees. Also an owner who’s willing to outbid any team for a player. I guess we’ll find out soon. Hopefully by week’s end.
Just hoping he’s signs soon as I’m sick of this guy holding up the market.
Every team is owned by a billionaire. They all have oodles of money. You are probably right about it being one of those teams that has a billionaire owner that is committed to spending it on a competitive roster and trying to win rings. Seattle would make an odd sounding pitch. “Sign with us. We are committed to being number one in revenue and 19th in payroll”.
I see this kind of comment often. And I wonder if it’s actually based on facts. Someone who is a “billionaire” doesn’t have billions of dollars in their bank account. They own physical assets (and some cash) that has a present day market value of billions of dollars. Some of that is value of hard capital assets, some of it is stocks or bonds, some of it is cash. So a lot of the money available to spend I’m quite sure comes in the form of debt leveraged against the value of their other assets. This is speculation on my part. I’m curious if anyone else here has thoughts on it. My point is that just because someone is a “billionaire” doesn’t meant they have just pikes and pikes of money to spend on whoever they want. Just because I make $100k/year doesn’t mean I can afford to go buy a new truck. I literally can’t. So you know, it’s not always the way it seems.
Piles and piles*
Case in point: A’s owner John Fisher is a billionaire several times over.
Rockies!!!
Not a chance. Even he’ll get lit up there.
It was a joke, my friend.
Wow ! What a juicy read ! So u get to make 2 offers. 1 the first day and another at the end of the saga. Ballin a$$ move !
Might be one of those times he goes to highest bidder. For the sake of competition I hope it’s the giants
I hope he has hiccups for the rest of his life
I am ready for the Yamamoto watch to be over…..
It was the Soto watch, then the Ohtani watch, now Yamamoto watch, next its the Snell watch, then Bellinger watch, MLB free agency is a drag out drama mess.
I’m hoping the rest of the market moves more rapidly once Yamamoto signs.
Good luck with that LordD. I think Bellinger could stay on the market until February. Boras will slow play him as there are no other good outfielder options available.
That’s risky too though because if the asking price isn’t realistic teams interested teams could pivot to fill the holes.
im actually surprised bellinger hasnt signed or really heated up.
The main teams for yamamoto i dont think would be interested in bellinger. Yankees really dont have a spot for them after their recent trades, Mets other than yamamoto dont seem to be playing in the big guys ( i guess that could change if they miss out ) and not sure the dodgers are really in on him.
Nobody wants Bellinger at his absurd asking price. He won’t sign for a while
Bellinger’s market hasn’t reached his expectations. In part because teams are prioritizing other players to see what they have left in their budget but mostly because his targeted price is so high.
You mean 12yrs and 300M asking surprises you he hasn’t signed? Dude won’t be worth 40pct of that contract. 6/150 at least has a chance to be worth over 66 pct.
Bellinger’s market hasn’t developed for a few reasons. Boras wants a long term $200 M+ deal. The guy is coming off a great year after 3 awful years. No consistency with this guy! You have to assume if he gets even a 6 year $150 deal he will probably have 1 or 2 bad years. When you gamble with Boras on non consistent players the team usually loses.
Incentives are the only way I see Bellinger getting a long term deal with a potential high AAV.
Last I heard was 7/181m.
Sure it’s desperation by someone, but even 2 win, 34 yo CFers are scarce, never mind a 4,4 win, 28 yo GGer who once won an MVP.
Bet the highest offer, as with Alonso, is from somewhere horrible (in the baseball sense).
He reportedly is asking for 200M+ and considering you have a korean ball player that has not played US baseball got over 100M+ are you at all surprised by the ask .
Even if you do comps to last year with Nimmo getting 160M he is overall probably better than him and even the prediction from MLB trade rumors has him over 250M. Also it is Boras he shoots for the moon and not what he really wants.
Crazy question, when you go into a job do you start below what you want and then try to negotiate up or do you ask for most and negotiate down. Its the same with contracts, he is going to ask for the moon (especially since he is a boras client) and negotiate down or ask for perks like no trade and opt outs.
So you’d rather everyone signs within 2 weeks and then we have months to wait for spring training with nothing going on??? MLB free agency is by far the best lol. The other sports are so frenetic that a lot of the transactions get lost in the shuffle. You people complain about the dumbest stuff lol
I totally agree. I love that the drama is spread out over a few months – keeps the off-season exciting. Sadly, we live in a binge-watching, streaming, TikTok world where few have the patience. Baseball is a game of patience, so enjoy it in all its sluggish silliness!
Spot on
We’ll reach the Montgomery Watch by February.
Too bad there’s not a free agent named Timex. 😉
@rodcannon There’s not a free agent named Timex YET. Don’t be a pessismist. lol…
🙂 And yet, here we are reading and commenting as an essential component of the drama mess.
I always feel like, someone is watching Yooooo…
I hope the pirates shock MLB by signing him lol and I’m a Dodgers fan
This would be kinda funny
Especially when he’d have to hit and man five other positions…
Juggy: All it takes is for a team like the Pirates to sign one big player and it could attract more good players.
Any small market team with a history of losing seasons would have to overpay big time for Yamamoto as the Tigers did for Pudge Rodriguez in 2004.
Pudge was a bargain. It was Fernando Vina they over paid to get things started.
Then maybe a player a rung lower than Yamamoto.
I hope his decision making is a lot quicker on the mound.
I hope it’s not a surprise team that signs him.
I hope it is, but it won’t.
Capt’n, would you consider either Boston or the Giants a surprise? Living in NY, all I hear are the Yankees, Mets and Dodgers. Egos forget there are other clubs too. While this is good for the players, there will eventually be a fans’ mutiny as prices to see and eat at a game will continue to climb. A benefit of getting older is I no longer choose to go to games. I’d rather buy a new OLED than go to a couple of games. Given bad knees and having to use the facilities more often (and I don’t drink beer), I won’t see much of the games in person anyway…
Breslow stated pitching is the priority, we shall see. It’s time to pay up, if not Yamamoto then Snell.
Stay away from Snell after Sales.
The Mets need this guy desperately and they’ve pulled out all the stops to impress him. If he wants the biggest bag of money, he’ll come to Queens.
@JonnyS Pity he doesn’t want the biggest bag of money.
Would you? A decade in the Steve Cohen Clown Show for 10/330m vs 10/310m with the Dodgers, all but guaranteed a division title every year, closer to home, closer to friends and family, not getting booed during a bad game, no 75 win seasons, no drunk GMs no sexting GMs no thumbs down nonsense, just pride, professionalism, and a couple of World Series.
Jack, you should let the guys at MLBTR know that you have direct access to Yamamoto. You have heard of these things called airplanes that can fly from NY to LA in 3 hours, haven’t you? And last I heard, the GMs you mentioned were fired. Do try and keep up.
I’ve personally seen Doyer fans boo their own relievers who had a bad outing during a terrific sesaon. Just saying.
Literally no one views the dodgers like this other than you lol. The dodgers results have been absolutely pathetic considering the payrolls they have been running
Hi, do you remember Trevor Bauer or Julio Urias? Yeah…. quite a spotless franchise, those Dodgers. Very professional in how they rostered players with domestic abuse issues.
Trevor was never charged with anything. Julio went to counseling for the first DV incident. But good try troll
Trevor was released by the Dodgers for physically abusing a woman. Still unsigned by any MLB team. Urias was suspended by MLB for domestic violence.
Check your facts, Cap’n, then come back to me. 😉
The Cohen era will not be a clown show. He has a long term vision for success, he has poured money into player development resources… scouting upgrades, new pitching labs, facilities, etc. As a result, the Mets currently have a top 5 farm system. His plan from the beginning has been about building a long term, sustainable winner. The recent moves when he first took over are the shiny object, he is a smart dude bringing in smart people and he’s going to be a very good owner who wants to combine his massive bankroll while building an elite farm system and player development foundation from the ground up. If you are waiting for a clown show you’re going to be very disappointed, these are not the moronic, cheap Wilpons.
Just like he had a long term vision for success in 2020? When he all but guaranteed a world series title in his first three years?
Three to five years, to be fair.
But he won’t do that, either.
@theruns Well, your username certainly promises success. Of a sort.
What gives you such confidence? The inability to hire even a remotely competent GM until Year 4? The firing of his manager the year after he won a Manager of the Year Award? Pretending he himself was GM and failing abysmally?
Or was it quitting on the team and wrecking its reputation once again going into Year 4?
Yes… “Long term vision” is about 2+ years lol.
Look up from your phone bro, you might learn something.
“Year 4!”
Did you fail 8th grade math?
He took over the team in the beginning of 2021, and was basically handed a dumpster fire left by the Wilpons. He was also (according to many sources) under a gentleman’s agreement with the other owners to spend a year in time-out and not start spending.
This spring will be year 3 of him actually being able to operate as he pleases…. in that time he has taken the Mets farm system from a barren wasteland into top 5 status. He has also rebuilt their entire scouting staff and built a state of the art pitching lab. They were years behind the curve in both of those regards. He hired said GM (Eppler) as a placeholder until Stearns was finally made available, this was widely speculated in the MLB world and known to everybody except you. It was the guy he wanted from day one.
Hard to argue with that summary.
Unless he wants out from under Ohtani shadow back home.
But I believe you have it right.
Listen, I totally get it. Even as a Mets fan, I wonder why players would put themselves through the misery of signing with them. I was shocked when Scherzer signed and thought that was a sign of things turning but look how that panned out.
But he took the biggest offer he got, and Yamamoto might as well.
But the Mets may be the team with the least likely ness to compete next few years. The Mets have such major holes; and at least 2 teams way better than them in the division
I won’t go so far as to say ‘Moto won’t sign with the Mets, but the allure of a team that is determined to go for it NOW has to be strong over a team that is looking further ahead. The guy is 25 and in the prime of his career. Does he want to risk that on a team who isn’t going to push its chips all in for 2024-25?
You mean when he will be 26 and past his prime? And the Mets have only stated stepping back in ’24. Gives him a chance to adjust to a new league.
Maybe that is the problem. The Queens may not be as “impressive” as you think…
If players signed based on the allure of the neighborhood surrounding the ballpark, The Mets would be lucky to sign anyone!
But a private jet/dinner in Japan plus a trip to the Cohen estate in Connecticut are braggadocios displays of opulence that might draw in an outsider.
So, no news
Maybe the Dodgers can offer $699 Million
Yes, with $697 million deferred.
The ‘deferred’ comment never gets old. In spite of comments by others.
It’s so old already and wasn’t funny to begin with
Yes it does and is. Come up with fresh material or have your team be smart enough to do it
Maybe the joke’s payoff is deferred.
Someone should go the other way…
$700m
$691m in year 1
$1m/yr after
Pay crazy luxury tax 1 year then have insane payroll flexibility
Joking! But someone has to have had that idea somewhere
The money for LT purposes still gets spread out.
The only way to work that is to sign the guy for 1/300m, say, then the following offseason sign him for 9/9m.
I think even Manfred can figure that one out.
Well, I don’t see the Orioles as being a Mystery Team, they never scouted, much less ever talked to this cat
Yoshi probably does not even know where Baltimore is!
I wonder if he knows where Pearl Harbor is… 😉
Mitsuo Fuchida found religion, so maybe there is hope for Yoshi
This is just endless speculation by sportswriters who probably don’t have any more real information than MLBTR commenters.
Passan’s column seems the weirdest to me. He breathlessly informs us that nobody has made a real offer, then backs off halfway and says teams have made “preliminary” offers. What does that mean? They’re only offering preliminary dollars instead of real dollars? If a club blew away everybody else on those “preliminary” offers, I bet we’d be seeing a press conference right now welcoming Yamamoto.
If I had to pick a club, I’d say it’s the Mets. Cohen just can’t help himself. He’ll spend some ungodly amount to land the biggest fish.
CaseyAbell: All of these “insiders” want to be the first one to be right. What they don’t want is to look foolish. “The A’s are one of the teams in the Yamamoto sweepstakes.” Not good for their reputations. They’ll fall all over each other to be the first one to correctly predict where Yamamoto and Ohtani sign. It’s very competitive for the guys.
When are you going to understand money will not be a factor for Yamamoto as he wants to play on mlb brightest stage and win. Ask yourself if you are a star, what team offers the best scenario to be a recognized brand worldwide. Its the Yankees, NOT Mets or Dodgers. Yamamoto had it in his mind to be a Yankee from day one. If Hal’s bid is reasonable and up there with the best of them he has an excellent chance of luring him away.
Sorry Anthony but he’s going to go with the most money. Players aren’t giving the Yankees a discount to have the opportunity to play for them.
The way he landed Ohtani? Or Turner/Correa/Bogaerts? Or Aaron Judge? Or JT Realmuto? Or Kyle Schwarber? Or Nick Castellanos? Or George Springer?
Cohen, like any owner, doesn’t always get the top free agent, and the Mets have missed more than they’ve hit on FA’s the last few years.
I think he signs with either the Yankees or Dodgers. Slight advantage towards the Dodgers in my opinion.
Unless, of course, he doesn’t.
Sorry he ain’t going to LA
DannyDimes: After signing Ohtani, the Dodgers have become very aggressive in going after other top players. Good luck to them. All owners have money even the ones who cry poor. They just don’t want to spend their billions of dollars (I’m looking at you, Reinsdorf and Fisher. You can’t take it with you.)
The WHITE SOX (vastly underrated) are still the sleeper favorite and are in a prime position in general unlike the Dynasty That Never Was Cubs. They didn’t get Soto and Ohtani despite all the predictions that they would but they will definitely get Yamato, Belli and Snell.
Keep smoking that wacky tabacky.
Rosenthal, Axisa, Verducci, Rome, Lupica, Passan, Blum, Plaschke, etc.
Several sports columnists. How is such a list relevant?
Stark, Olney, Law.
What’s your point?
The Sox are sleeper favorites for worst record in MLB each of the next 2 or 3 years. I say that as a former fan, I gave up on them a couple years ago when it was ultra clear what Jerry was about. They even cancelled Soxfest last year, he does not give a damn about the fans, or baseball.
That should have been apparent 30 years ago, when he was in cahoots with Bud Selig trying to shut the game to bust the MLBPA and force a salary cap down the players’ throats.
Trout: I sense a bit of sarcasm in your post. I do like the part about the cubs. Losers all the way.
Sleeper favorite? lol. It is such a sleeper that the White Sox management was asleep when Yamamoto did his tour of America…
Yamamoto last seen on a plane heading to O’Hare….
Big Jerry sent a private plane for him.
Jerry got away with underpaying Michael Jordan because of the NBA’s salary cap.
It hasn’t exactly ruined his life.
As if you can prove that.
He was murdered in a robbery by two teenagers. There was no proven connection to Michael or gambling.
Something you can’t prove.
Hopefully the end is in sight. Then nightengale and Morosi can pivot to making up stories about Imanaga
“Making up stories”..I have it on good authority(Morosi) that Imanaga is on a private plane right now bound for Toronto where the Blue Jays are waiting to sign him to a record contract.
There’s a sushi restaurant in Toronto that has a private party planned for Thursday…
Breaking News: there are no wheels or wings on that plane.
Yamamoto last seen on a plane heading for Kansas City….
There were “snakes” & Samuel Jackson on that plane; what could go wrong?
One of the snakes has been known to act as a player agent….
Actually, he was shot down by P-38s in the Solomon Islands in 1943. 😉
I think it’s a mistake ruling out Atlanta and Philly. But I’d say Bryce and Philly take it in the end.
Go Braves !
AA has wasted too much money on bad contract dumps for this to happen smh….but one can still hope!
I think AA is keeping his powder dry for a dip below the luxury tax threshold in 2025. That’s why he’s not in on Yamamoto.
not a good sign for 2025 when Fried and Morton are gone also….window closing faster than people want to admit
Desert- Does Yamamoto desire fohawk styling tips that badly? We shall see.
Atlanta got burned some years back in a Japanese pitcher so not sure they will be in. Although some players have down great in mlb a lot of teams worth about Japanese player especially pitchers as the game is so different there. They only pitch one time a week etc.
Kawakami was a bad signing…but highly doubt the Braves lack of movement for starting pitching the last 8-10 year plus has anything to do with that.
desertball: How much money do you think Harper will be putting into the pot to bring Yamamoto to the Phillies?
I think it’ll be Yankees for like $340M. If they’re all in the $300M-$325M range and it’ll take a little extra money to put a team over the top, Yankees will do that to secure good pitching and he reportedly is leaning toward the Yankees in principle.
I could see the Cohen and the Mets offering in the $360-$370 range. I think if he’s looking for the biggest offer he’ll be with the Mets.
I see Dodgers going 10/400 with lots of deferred salary
I just don’t see the Mets doing this after they went so far all in with Sherzer and Verlander, etc. and then blew it all up like they did. They’re still on the hook for those guys.
The Mets have a long way to go to put together a functional team that can contend for the playoffs and so after they traded away their highest profile, most expensive arms and are still in actuality paying the majority of those guys’ salaries, I don’t see why they’d now add another $35M-$40M a year pitcher to a staff they just threw in the towel on.
I think the reason they might do it is because they have about $90 mil coming off of the books going into 2025 and they have very little pitching to speak of. If they want to compete in 2025, a young ace would be a good start. Given Yamamoto’s age, it’s a totally different situation than the Scherzer and Verlander contracts. Not saying it’ll happen, but I wouldn’t be shocked to see an offer like that from Cohen and the Mets.
Hal’s got two more items in his abdominal cavity at the thought of a pitcher with no MLB innings coming to the Yankees for 10/$250m, never mind 10/$340m.
Trillionaire: And Ohtani was leaning toward the Blue Jays.
Ohtani was a Dodger once the season ended and everyone knew this. It was all BS to drive up his price!
Bottom line is, I’d be shocked to see the Dodgers add *another $35M+ to their payroll, even for their seemingly limitless budget and I doubt they’d convince Yomomoto to defer 98% of it lol and I think with their re-vamped outfield, the Yankees look a lot more appealing than they did going into the off season and the idea of a 1-2 punch of Cole, who just won a Cy Young, and Yamomoto going 1-2, with potential bounceback from Rodon, etc. could be appealing enough to Yamomoto to pick the Yankees, especially with their history of doing well with international players.
340 for a guy who never pitched once in the bigs seems way too high, even with Cohen bidding.
I wish he would make up his mind… he and Ohtani made the winter meetings and free agent signing period boring… I’m sure there must be a player or two who are annoyed at the holdup because here it is almost new years and they don’t know where they are playing next year. Obviously, the teams that lost out on these guys may pivot and spend more on guys like snell or Montgomery (who should come back to the Yankees and his best friend Cole ) but it has to piss some of the free agents off that they need to wait.
I hope he gets $300M and refuses to defer.
Bring the evil empire back!
It feels very much like LA or NY (with 2 options in NY). I would be thrilled to see Toronto, SF, Philly or anyone else, but this seems like anticipating the ending of a movie we all know the ending to.
Yamamoto would give Toronto one of the best, if not the best rotations in baseball.
But sadly, given that their current lineup projects as Bo Bichette and 8 mannequins dressed in Jays uniforms, they have bigger issues than a starter.
NY and LA feel like the likeliest spots.
@Canuckle I think calling Vlad Jr a mannequin is a bit of a stretch, even if he had a down year last year. Not going out on much of a limb to predict a huge rebound from him, heading into his age 25 season. Jays have at least gotten to the playoffs the past couple years, they have flaws but are not exactly in shambles.
That was meant as a bit of a tongue-in-cheek joke but it’s a joke based loosely in reality:
Catcher – who knows what they get from either
1B – Vladdy is at this point slightly above league average until he proves otherwise
2B – Mannequin
SS – Bo Bichette
3B – Mannequin
RF – Springer is league average when healthy
LF/CF – Varsho is great in the field but a mannequin might be more productive at the plate
LF/CF – Mannequin
DH – Mannequin
But mannequins don’t have ACLs and UCLs to tear….and often have good posture.
This has been slowest, lamest offseason I can ever recall. Other than the Ohtani signing and Soto/Glasnow trades, not a whole lot going on apart from some moves by KC of all teams. There is usually more activity by this time in the offseason, about time some guys start signing!
DBacks signed a few dudes.
Patience Grasshopper.
Come on. Give the press some credit. The Red Sox have been “in” on every Free Agent and trade possibility. The Craig Breslow era has been something to behold. The Sox Winterfest should be something to stay tuned for. The fans were cranked up last year. This year the fest should be “Amazing” or “Awesome” or a combination thereof. Not
Yamamoto last seen on a plane heading for Boston
Nola. Soto. Glasnow. Ohtani. Gray. It’s been a pretty active offseason.
This isn’t even close to being the slowest or lamest offseason. The top FA signed a record deal, the best hitter in the NL was traded across leagues, and Glasnow was sent West, while Aaron Nola, Eduardo Rodriguez, Lourdes Gurriel Jr, Seth Lugo, and Sonny Gray have all signed.
Even Korean import Jung Hoo Lee made a splash with the Giants. And all of those FA players were in MLBTR’s top 20 Free Agents list.
He’ll likely be good, but unknown if he’ll be great, but he’s going to be paid upfront like he’s the best pitcher in MLB.
Mets will outbid Dodgers & Yankees for Yamamoto at >$350M & end up sending him out to Rangers or Astros at ’24 trade deadline with CA$H for most of his salary! In return the Mets get PTBNL (Astros) or Scherzer (Rangers)!
If the Angels were actually serious about not rebuilding and pushing to contend, this would be the guy to pull out all the stops to sign. TOR arm they need, young enough to still be that arm if they pivot in a year or two to a type of quick rebuild, replaces some of the market lost with Ohtani. But, who believes they’re actually serious about competing?
The cardinals will shock everyone and sign him to a 10 year contract for 325 million with most of it being deferred
All of it deferred, out to infinity.
“I just like to pitch, and I like the color red,” said Yamamoto at his introductory presser under the glints of the Memorial Arch.
Yamamoto last seen on a plane headed for St.Louis…
Cool, a rich and overloaded team will sign him, I don’t care.
Wonder what the Mets strategy is? It sounds like their Pitch is that they want YY onboard. for when they are ready to Go for It in 2025.
YY would probably want quite a Bit more $$$’s then he might accept from a Team going for it now.
That’s probably the thinking; paper over any inadequacies with money. Maybe it works with Cohen’s willingness to spend big, but my gut tells me it won’t.
Angels sign Belli and Yamamoto, save 100 million from not-signing Othani, and have their eggs in 2 under 30 y.o. baskets.
It’d be cool…but not at all likely.
“they believe Yamamoto will sign somewhere between $300-325MM”
The Ohtani contract (and a million contracts before that) showed us that the total contract value is pretty meaningless.
I was hopeful after that mess that MLBTR would do better.
Alas, no.
No one seems to think Boston has a chance to sign him. They are going to be super-aggressive in their offer to Yamamoto and don’t discount the existing relationship with former NPB teammate Yoshida who’s playing in Boston now.
If Boston does end up missing out, they need to make a quick pivot to Imanaga and someone else like Montgomery. The Red Sox ‘rebuild’ is almost complete; they just don’t have the pitching prospects to match their offensive youth influx so they need to buy it.
I think boston will be aggressive..but not to the tune of making him the highest paid pitcher in baseball.if thats the route this takes sign montgomery instead and go after cole or burnes next winter..or better sign monty..trade for burnes and sign him in season.
That’s the way I see it. Most of the writers and fans seem like they don’t acknowledge the concept of poor signings. Every player has the capacity to be a good signing, but past a certain point, they won’t be worth it.
Maybe that’s what I’m doing wrong, I forgot to check “Have interested employers submit preliminary bids for your services before you choose which ones you want to schedule interviews with” during my job searches on Indeed.com!
If you had Yamamoto’s rare skill set in your field, you could do that. I’m sure you’re very good at what you do, but I doubt you are perceived as a unicorn in the same way as Yamamoto.
Reports did say Giants and Red Sox both offered 300 million dollar deals but they also mentioned the Yankees and Mets have been aggressive, so I’m not sure what that means entirely
I hope he misses the deadline and has to pitch in Japan next year. This process is lame…
Why couldn’t we have just done some decent reporting these last 2+weeks and came out and said, he’s meeting with teams, but there is 0pct chances a deal will be made at this time, holding up near all of future decision making for MLB FAs and teams that revolve around Yamamota deal being done. So expect a team like the Royals to be active only during these next 2 weeks.
Baseball nerds are so boring
SF Giants are not a “mystery team”, but I suspect people will be surprised when he signs with them. I’m pretty certain that Farhan has an absolute blank check from ownership on Yamamoto and he will absolutely have the highest offer if money is the deciding factor. Giants are desperate for a big free agent signing, and this guy checks just about every box. My prediction is the Giants sweep in and get him much to the surprise of everyone in New York and Los Angeles. And I’m a Dodger fan.
Large private party planned this Friday at a sushi restaurant in San Francisco….then again it could be someone’s office Christmas party…
People, as in other MLB players, are waiting on you Yoshi. Get with the program and make up your mind.
You have to give the Dodgers time to ensure their newly found financial creativity works within the system…
Pick a team already, diva.
I get the Mets going all in, but don’t they have to pivot if they don’t get him? While a partial rebuild is happening, they still need to field a competitive team, right?
The Mets will field a competitive team if they don’t sign Yamamoto or any other pitchers. I actually respect Stearns and Cohen if they determine that Yamamoto is singularly important to them in the long-term. If Yamamoto is willing to sign with them on those terms, good for him and them.
Free agency is already fraught with great risk. When teams start “settling” for players that are really not fits and giving long-term contracts to them the risks become even greater.
I think it’s between the Mets & Yankees. I don’t think he wants to be over-shadowed by Ohtani, and he would be with the Dodgers. I think he’ll sign with the Yankees, since he grew up a fan and Matsui was his idol growing up,.8 yrs/315
Well it’s widely reported YY grew up being a Dodgers fan. I haven’t heard anywhere he grew up a fan of the Yankees but maybe he had a favorite on both coasts.
There’s a huge sushi party planned in a NY restaurant two Sundays from now.
” the Mets are focused on Yamamoto and Yamamoto alone”
It sounds like an overpay by the Mets is on the way.
I have seen a local NBC Boston affiliate report that says the Giants and Red Sox have an offer in well over $325 million and that both the Mets and Yankees are getting another bite at the apple with their offers.
Of course this time of year rumors are ALL taken with a grain of salt.
If you ain’t Jeffrey P, stop the cap!
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Yamamoto 8-240
Thee was a report that the Giants and Red Sox made offers of about 300 million. Who knows what to believe. Would be stunned if he was seriously considering Boston. Most of the time the Japanese players sign with west coast teams to be closer to Japan as opposed to the East Coast. He will use the Red Sox offer to go back to the Dodgers like Ohtani used Toronto. The Yankees will make an excessive offer and they may convince him to go there. I am also sure that Matsusaka buried the Red Sox. I am sure they talk to each other as well. He was maddening to watch getting two strikes on a hitter and then walk the hitter. He would have 130 pitches by the 5th inning sadly.
A great pitcher should want to test himself against great hitters and the ongoing adjustments they make to each other. And no one is really writing about this. Yamamoto should sign with the Mets and get opportunity to face Ohtani, Betts, Freeman, Judge, Soto, Harper. Avoid the very short Yankees Stadium porch. And Phillies bandbox. SF has big field, but not stars. What’s the direction of that franchise and their farm?
Citi Field is fair ballpark. Mets have good farm with some very athletic, two-way position player prospects working their way up to the majors. 5 in MLB Pipeline’s Top 100. Good starting pitching is also developing in the upper minors. I think AA Tidwell and Scott could end up in Top 100, while catching prospect Parada might miss the Top 100 cut this time, lose his spot.
Mets also have a solid core of position players at the major league level right now. AA prospects Gilbert, Acuna and Williams when they arrive will inject speed, offense and defense, hit tools, pop, big energy. Excitement! Mauricio when he returns from knee injury is speed, energy, switch hitting power guy. This is good future for Yamamoto to choose the Mets, and get opportunity to face the likes of Ohtani, Betts, Harper and others.
If I were Yamamoto (and I might be…), I would see signing with the Giants as an absolute marketing goldmine. Imagine the drama of facing off regularly with the other Japanese star and exporting the Dodgers/Giants rivalry. Nothing else boosts his profile like that.
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From the beginning his agent said he wants to sign with a team with one of his countrymen….. If that is true that leaves the Mets (Senga), Dodgers (Ohtani) and the Red Sox (Yoshida). Lets see if that stands true and if it is then how can the Yankees be a front runner? My Guess is he signs with the Mets because they offer the most money along with one of his friends being on the team.
My guess is the Dodgers because of his friendship with Ohtani
Hey Arte, you wasted 3 quarters of a billion on Hamilton, Upton, Pujols, and Rendon and got NO bang for the bucks. How about we try something different like signing the best pitcher from Japan? You know, the 25 year old?
I’m a Yankee fan – let it be the Mets that sign him. I just think there is too much risk for a guy who hasn’t thrown an inning in MLB.
Exactly it’s AAA hitting over there
How many big hitters come to MlB from Japan? None. The hitting there is AAA at best. He will be a 300 million dollar pitcher with a 4.30 era & 10-12 with 30 starts. Not worth it until proven. Seriously Otahni is only a 9 game winner lol
So it comes down to, does he want to win or get rich quick ??