Phillies officials are meeting with right-hander Yoshinobu Yamamoto this afternoon, tweets John Clark of NBC Sports Philadelphia. Philadelphia joins the Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Giants, Blue Jays and Red Sox among the teams that has met or is scheduled to chat with the Japanese star.
Yamamoto’s camp has made the rounds this week. The 25-year-old has gotten attention from the majority of large-market franchises, particularly those on the coasts. Last week, Will Sammon of the Athletic suggested that seven teams had emerged as strong suitors for the 5’10” pitcher. With seven clubs known to have meetings scheduled with Yamamoto, it’s possible the field is essentially finalized. In a full column, Jon Heyman of the New York Post writes that there’s no indication the Cubs or Cardinals are planning to meet with Yamamoto.
Of the group that seems to remain in the mix, Philadelphia might have the longest odds. The Phils already made one major rotation splash this winter, retaining Aaron Nola on a seven-year, $172MM pact. A starting five of Nola, Zack Wheeler, Ranger Suárez, Taijuan Walker and Cristopher Sánchez is already strong. The Phils could certainly bump Sánchez back into relief to make way for Yamamoto, who is regarded as a likely top-of-the-rotation arm in the majors. Yet it’s possible teams like the Dodgers, Mets or Yankees will feel greater pressure to dish out a megadeal for rotation help.
Yamamoto is coming off a 1.21 ERA in 164 innings, arguably the best performance of an exceptional career in Japan. He has been named NPB’s best pitcher in each of the past three seasons. MLBTR predicted a nine-year, $225MM guarantee at the start of the offseason. In recent weeks, there’s been increasing speculation that a deal could approach or exceed $300MM. The signing team would owe a posting fee to the Orix Buffaloes on top of the guarantee to Yamamoto.
Roster Resource projects the Phillies payroll around $237MM for the upcoming season. That’s a little shy of the $243MM range that they carried to start this year. The Phils have roughly $252MM in luxury tax calculations, which puts them into the first tier of penalization and not far off the $257MM second threshold.
Braves Butt-Head
So congrats on the Phillies for beating the braves once again if he signs there
OIC2021
Ahhhhhh…..so?
deweybelongsinthehall
Never count Dombrowski out. He could just be doing his due diligence but he’s known to spend when he wants someone.
gww4488
As a Phillies fan, I can see how the team would make things work financially to add Yamamoto (trading Taijuan Walker, Castellanos, and more for Trout), but since he said that one of his main attractions is playing with other Japanese players, Id say Boston or the Dodgers are the top 2 choices.
Phillls
Stop this trading for Trout nonsense.
1 – The Angels aren’t trading him
2 – IF they were to try to trade him, they would want multiple prospects and young controllable players, not high priced veterans
3 – Why would the Phillies trade top prospects for an injury prone player to spend more time on the DL than on the field? His chronic recurring back issues aren’t going to just magically go away
99CaptainJudge99
No worries he isn’t signing in either of those places.
Pete'sView
Yoshinobu, please come to San Francisco, you will be your our star here, and we will make you comfortable in every way. Your addition will make us a contender.
Pete'sView
多くの祝福。
EzraTank
Will you give him his own sidewalk to poop on? 🙂
Bart Harley Jarvis
@EzTan,
Yes, right in front of your house, which will then attract baseball fans from around the world to poop there as well. It’ll be everything you’ve ever dreamed about – your personal poop paradise.
gww4488
I hate to break it to you, but until SF gets a player or 2 to build around through their system(Bailey looks good), but they will need much more than he and Thairo Estrada to attract FAs.
Neon Cop
Manfred will make sure he goes to LAD.
YankeesAreDodgersEast
I don’t think anyone cares what Manfred thinks
I.M. Insane
True. MLB is starting to have serious NBA overtones.
Neon Cop
More like WWE. They’ll still lose though.
gww4488
It’s every league, once Vegas and the 200 sports books/fantasy sites etc became affiliates/sponsors, sports took a big turn for the worse.
niched
Right, because the $700 million the Dodgers are paying Ohtani is from Manfred’s lunch money
10centBeerNight
The plot thickens!
VonPurpleHayes
The Phillies can’t really offer anything the Dodgers or Yankees couldn’t. Money and a likely playoff berth. I don’t think that’s enough to land Yamamoto. The Mets can massively overpay to outbid everyone as well. I still think he goes to LA at this point.
Poolhalljunkies
Multiple sources say hes going to whoever offers the most money ..seems like his second list means any of those 7 teams are acceptible and this is very much a “show me the money” moment
VonPurpleHayes
My thinking at this point is that most of these teams will offer around the same amount. So that’s why I’m having a hard time seeing him land in Philly. Not a huge Japanese population. Not another Japanese player on the squad. Not on the West Coast.
Fever Pitch Guy
Von – Even if all 7 teams place a similar value on him, there’s always a good chance one of them will go above and beyond. Like an auction.
So I wouldn’t rule out anyone, because you just don’t know which owner will decide Yama is worth any cost.
Jroo
He might make more in Philly with Pennsylvania having lower taxes than California and New York.
kodiak920
This just seems tailor-made for Stevie Cohen to flex his financial muscles, which no one can match.
VonPurpleHayes
The Mets aren’t too appealing right now, but longterm?? Why not?
User 401527550
Why aren’t they appealing. Still have an all star first baseman, second baseman, shortstop, ace pitcher and best closer in the game.Alvarez is the best young catcher prospect/2 year in baseball. They have tons of young talent. I think your over estimating how bad they are.
derail76
The Dodgers can, and you’re fooling yourself if you believe any different.
VonPurpleHayes
Just in comparison to the win-now teams. I don’t see the Mets as a contender, BUT 1 or 2 moves can change that, and no one has Cohen money besides Cohen.
VonPurpleHayes
I think you misread me. I’m saying the Dodgers can.
jakethesnizake
This is exactly what I told my friend earlier. The sheer number of teams he’s visiting indicates he’s going wherever he gets the biggest offer. If he wanted LAD or NYY, all he had to do was get those two plus NYM and another big market team engaged to drive up the price and voila. Instead, he’s engaging with like 10 teams so clearly prioritizing $ above anything else. His call, of course, but if it boils down to the biggest paycheck, it’s gonna be the Mets.
cscd1111
Sure they can defer his contract forever like LA.did with Ohtani.
gww4488
It depends on his priorities. The Phils were in the WS in 22, and a game away in 23, and the 2 NY teams suffered atrocious downfalls the past 2 years. The Mets have Alonso, McNeil, Nimmo, Alvarez(for 1/2 a year), & Sengai who are proven big league players, the rest of their roster is either prospects, coming back from injury, or journeyman. The Yankees picked up a great deal on Soto(even if it’s only for 1 year), but he, Judge, Gleyber, Volpe(needs to hit more), Rizzo DJ, & Stanton they have an offense, and Cole, Cortes, & Rodon (if those 2 can stay healthy) offer them a nice top 3. I think the Mets will be 4th in the East,maybe 3rd. I see the Yankees in a 3 team battle for 2nd, as long as Baltimore’s sale doesn’t screw up their opportunity to add to their rotation-Yamamoto,Cease, Bieber,Snell, Giolito would all help (which needs a legit top of the rotation SP in case Braddish was a fluke or G-Rod struggles),G-Rod, Braddish, Wells,+ Means probably won’t get them back to 101 WS, especially without F.Bautista this year.
acoss13
I mean why not throw your hat in right? Can only make that rotation stronger with the possible addition of a pitcher of his caliber.
Poolhalljunkies
The NY Giants and Jets are both meeting with him as well to see if he’s ever thrown a football..
rct
Maybe he can move into the Devito household and be Ya-mmy Cutlets.
User 401527550
Might not be a bad idea.
Mets Fan 62
Thank you. This comment made my day.
gww4488
He’s too short,lol. They’ll just draft Caleb Williams, who will throw a fit because he wasn’t allowed to choose his team, and play a career in Canada or on a flag football team, lol. And the Jets will rely on Rodgers again, but with Peyton Manning on standby just in case. It’s funny they had Flacco and let him go for Mike White, now Flacco looks like it’s 2011 and throws darts to no name Browns WRs for TDs
TrumboRedux
Harper will sabotage the whole thing so Philly has deeper pockets for his impending extension!
LeeJPC
Harper was told that getting his extension this season is based on him getting Yamamoto to sign with the Phillies.
gww4488
Harper’s extension is going to give the Phillies more money to spend in the next few years. As soon as he caught wind of what Ohtani was doing, that’s when he brought up the extension. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets a stake in the ownership group in his extension.
ASapsFables
Apparently the Cubs don’t even want a seat at the Yoshinobu Yamamoto table after being dismissed from the Shohei Ohtani feast.
ASapsFables
The top of the market appears too rich for Tom Ricketts after suggesting the Cubs will be big players in free agency this offseason. Jed Hoyer will be left picking up table crumbs. The front office is hoping that Shota Imanaga will be tasty enough for Cubs nation.
Poolhalljunkies
Red Sox nation is also feeling this way..maybe the cubs and red sox get in a bidding war for Imanaga…one of them are bound to win one eventually
User 401527550
Maybe set your sights a little lower. Imanaga might be out of their range too.
gww4488
I think the Cubs are going to put all of their attention to re-signing Bellinger and Stroman, before they get away
HighOnPineTar
It’s a shame the Red Sox don’t get to have their meeting with him in Boston, if only they got to give him a Duck boat tour of the Charles River in mid-December, surely LA wouldn’t stand a chance…
Salvi
All the Dodgers have to do is give him a tour of Skid Row. Im sure Yamamoto would love it there.
Remember come April, Winter vanishes in Boston. Homeless are in LA year round. I like seasonal change.
Jean Matrac
I lived in Boston, first for school, then stayed awhile for work. Winter does not vanish in April. Maybe it’s the raw, blustery, late winter, more so than the bitter cold and snow, but it’s definitely not spring, no matter what the calendar says. My first year there it snowed 13 inches on April 12th. It took me a couple years, after being disappointed in April to realize that nice weather wasn’t there to stay until the 2nd week in May.
htbnm57
Baseball players are on the road 9 months + a year and have the $ to over-Winter wherever they want
Jean Matrac
So? I guess you missed the point. I was responding to @APBA who posted that “…come April, Winter vanishes in Boston”. I was addressing nothing more than that.
User 2336683091
LA has seasonal change. Summer… and less summer.
sacball
Fire season and smaller fire season
User 401527550
Rolling blackouts season and water limit season.
gww4488
I think that Boston has the 2nd best chance of signing him. He and Yoshida are former teammates and good friends. Not sure if that trumps Ohtani and that LA $, but they would be my 2nd bet.
Yankee Clipper
Not sure why the dog and pony show when he’s going straight to the Yankees….. I mean, might as well put him on the contract tracker already.
Yanks2
Giants
butch779988
Not happening
TrumboRedux
Clip, I know you are gonna want to hit me with the strap after I say this…But could you see Yamamoto possibly geeking out over the chance to play with his fellow countryman Shohei and posting up in LA? Deferred deal of course..
Yankee Clipper
Trumbo! You hush your mouth with that!
Seriously, I could. Truth be told, I’d have LAD as my number 1 pick if I wasn’t a Yankees fan. I’m 50/50 in which he picks, but LAD seems more motivated to get it done.
Lolol, “deferred deal of course” – cracked me up brother.
gardyparty
He’s a Yankee, the rest of this is all just for show.
Fever Pitch Guy
Not addressed to anyone in particular, am I the only one who finds all these chest-beating worthless predictions boring AF?
Yeah, yeah, yeah it’s trashtalking done in fun …. still boring AF.
Could at least make a half-ass attempt to justify the predictions with something like “He’s going to Boston because he’s Shin’yū with Yoshida from their 6 years as teammates”.
I mean put some effort into it at least!.
VonPurpleHayes
Boston was my original prediction FWIW. Then I thought Mets all the way. Now I think Dodgers. Who knows?
Fever Pitch Guy
Von – Even after the Glasnow trade?
I’m not implying it’s not possible, just wondering what y’all think.
VonPurpleHayes
Oh yes definitely even after the Glasnow trade. They won 100+ last year and then their pitching got shelved in the playoffs. They need another starter even after Glasnow..
Yankee Clipper
Fever, I get you, but that was my max effort. Took me seven weeks to come up with that working night and day…..
Seriously, Hope you’re doing well, Fever.
gww4488
Not a chance. They have no Japanese players. One of Yamamotos biggest issues is playing with fellow Japanese players. Unless they are going to sign the other SP and RP from Japan, Yankees, Phils, and Mets are out.
Yankee Clipper
GWW: That was clarified as a translation error. He actually said he has no issues playing with other Japanese players, whereas culturally, many Japanese players don’t want to (out of respect).
It should be noted, however, I don’t speak Japanese, so I am relying on the story for my information. I could also see that his agent said “hey dummy, you just eliminated all the teams that are going to drive up your price by saying that…” so they fixed it.
Goose
It will be interesting if the Ohtani contract impacts his contract. The other factor with all the interest how high the contract ends up being. This could cause a huge cascade effect. Does Snell now have more leverage once he is off the market?
spudchukar
He is still signing with St. Louis. Don’t underestimate the power of Noot!
DarkSide830
Pingu plays baseball?
Poolhalljunkies
Unless noot is writing checks now i kinda doubt he matters much lol
DarkSide830
GET IT DONE DAVE!
User 401527550
Is Dave driving Uber to New York now?
Pete'sView
Get it done, Farhan!
Rsk3228
Just can’t see him signing with Philly. Maybe if they make the highest bid – but even that’s a stretch. LA and others have a mich better pitch given their history with Japanese players. Hope I’m wrong.
Yanks2
He’s going to the Giants
User 401527550
I don’t think Japanese are into the NFL but he might be into NewYork and show support to other New York teams and go to a Giants game or two.
gww4488
Haven’t you noticed, NOONE wants to play for SF these days! They don’t have 1 household name that a casual fan would know. They are going to have to build from the farm, get a couple home grown all star caliber players, then FAs will stop using them to get $ from the team they want to play for.
DadsInDaniaBeach
I doubt this will happen. But, one can only dream.
Captain Dunsel
I think the 2024 version of Dombrowski raiding the farm is convincing Middleton to spend well past the third CBT tier. Offer 10/315 with enough deferred to cover some of the CBT hit for extending Wheeler. Sanchez will get his work; there can never be too much good starting pitching. And if Painter pans out in 2025, the Phillies will once again have the Four Aces.
gww4488
If the Phillies sign Yamamoto, I would not expect to see Wheeler after next year. Wheeler will be a 34? year old FA,with a history of arm trouble in NY. Phils wanted to retain Nola badly bc he is always available, and is top 5 in most positive important stats for for starting pitchers over the past 5 years,only Verlander, Scherzer,deGrom, & Kershaw could say the same.
I don’t see Yamamoto signing with the Phils, but if he does, and the Phillies don’t trade Walker, 2025 rotation candidates will likely be Nola, Yamamoto, Suarez,Walker, Painter, Sanchez, Abel, McGarry,
cpdpoet
Hopefully the Phillies’ brass makes a good impression with this meeting, so the agent can tell his NEXT client that Philly is the place to sign.
No way Yamamoto signs with Philly. Hope I am wrong.
Man the Phils are way overdue in this market.
Rsk3228
To their credit, they have signed the 5th ranked player already.
cpdpoet
My bad, was talking @the asian theatre.
Granted the So Taguchi and Tadihito Iguchi eras were significant….. Just would them to aim a little higher.
Rsk3228
Of course. Now i understand. I wish they were bigger with Japanese players. Remember last year hoping for Senga.
gww4488
I think they signed the #1 most important Free Agent (at least P) this off-season. #1a Bellinger would be the only played close to as important . Yamamoto would be a guy I’d take a chance on if I had established SPs. I think Ohtani will go down as possibly the biggest FA bust in sports history. LA paid for a guy who had a career year hitting and pitching, a unicorn in today’s game. However, when he found out he had to have TJ surgery in September, I’d have pumped those brakes hard! This was his 2nd TJ surgery, so he’s a DH for 2024, maybe even a little bit of 25, bc you can’t have a 3rd TJ surgery to come back and pitch.He’ll be 31 if/when he takes the mound again. Some pitchers don’t make it back from 1 TJ, even less make it back from 2, and the next to pitch after 3 TJs will be the 1st. Would you risk paying 700M for a DH (who hit .271/356/556 38 HRs over his best 3 years) and who may or may not be able to pitch ever again(especially to his previous level)? LA had similar offensive stats from JD Martinez for a fraction of that price at DH last year.
taxman
This isn’t done until the Royals meet with him.
TellItGoodbye
The Giants will offer $400M/10 if that’s what it takes.
Poolhalljunkies
Cohen will then offer 400 million ..and 1 dollar..sf isnt allowed to have nice things
Pete'sView
TellItGoodby — I hope so.
gww4488
Hell say no thanks and take 175M from LA
TellItGoodbye
Jung Hoo Lee went 2-4 when he faced Yamamoto, including a crushed double that missed being a HR by a couple feet.
sacball
And he’s the equivalent of a single A player *eyeroll*
Pete'sView
sacball — Any you know this how? You’re just trolling. It adds nothing to the conversation.
Jean Matrac
Pete, I think @sacball was being sarcastic.
sacball
Definitely being sarcastic
cmanson
when is Yamamoto expected to meet with the A’s and the Pirates ?
LeeJPC
The Phillies first play the Pirates on April 11, which just happens to be Asian Pacific Heritage Celebration day on their schedule. he’ll meet the A’s when the Phillies travel to Oakland July 12.
sfes
Why not? 25 years old, better than Senga, a game away from a second straight pennant… might as well try and sign him. Even if he doesn’t you’re still competing for the division.
DanUgglasRing
Giants better pay this kid 380 because somebody is going to.
acoss13
So during Yamamoto’s tour of Philadelphia, did the Phillies brass take him to Paddy’s Pub to meet the gang?
BennyGiant
Hate to break this to you but the Paddys pub set is actually in Los Angeles.
acoss13
I’m disappointed but that makes sense. Still, I’ll hold on to the illusion that it’s in Philadelphia lol
CaseyAbell
Yamamoto just showed up at my house. I gave him $400 million for ten years. He took it.
User 401527550
Is he playing wiggle ball in your back yard for the next ten years?
CaseyAbell
I have a pickle ball court in my back yard. Yamamoto agreed to quit baseball to become a pro pickler.
LordD99
Don’t see him signing in Philly unless they offer more money than the Dodgers, Red Sox, Yankees and Mets.
Pete'sView
And Giants.
DroppedThirdStrike
Internet going into full meltdown once he signs with the dodgers.
LordD99
He’s standing in the audience at the Ohtani press conference.
me 8
I read his on a plane to Toronto
bestone
Other reports say that it’s Polkaroo….
YankeesBleacherCreature
That’s just one of his many body doubles. The real Yamamoto is still in Japan. It’s like that scene from “Good Will Hunting” where Matt Damon sends Ben Affleck to his interview.
DroppedThirdStrike
Keep your ear to the grindstone
bestone
Probably always wanted to be a Dodger…. Waiting to hear that it would be better for baseball if he signed with LA…..
DroppedThirdStrike
It would be better for baseball…
LeeJPC
It would be better for baseball in Philadelphia if he signed with the Phillies.
Pete'sView
Insufferable.
owg666
Unless he can speak Spanish he ain’t signing with the Phillies.
leftcoaster
This is all just a waste of time. Yamamoto needs to get in the plane, return to LA and sign with the Dodgers. Everyone knows that’s his plan and that he’s merely using other teams as leverage to drive his Dodger contract up. Really can’t blame him. Who wouldn’t want to play for the Dodgers?!
htbnm57
Why not go to the team that comes up small on the Fall
HankAaronDidGreenies
Mystery team is in. Looks like the Phillies got him
htbnm57
The nice thing if they could pull this off is that it doesn’t mean losing draft picks. The owner can afford it and if they can’t resign Wheeler they are in good shape
htbnm57
And it might get a WS
htbnm57
Dodgers are trading for Glasgow so may be out if the running
spudchukar
I still believe he is coming to St. Louis!
The619MetroPadres
Yamamoto to the Friars. Yu Darvish/Joey Musgrove/Mikey King/Randy Vasquez/Yoshinobu Yamamoto. Wicked rotation, ahead!
abcrazy4dodgers
A.J. Preller has withdrawn from his pursuit of offseason pennants, so…..no.
The619MetroPadres
Yu-Soo Darvish/Joey Musgrove/Mikey King/Randy Vasquez/Yoshinobu Yamamoto for the Friars 2024 Rotation. Watch out Smell-A Dodgers….because here we come!!!
baseballguru
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DadsInDaniaBeach
Ready for you to say