Right-hander Yoshinobu Yamamoto reportedly met with a contingent of Mets officials including owner Steve Cohen, president of baseball operations David Stearns, manager Carlos Mendoza, and pitching coach Jeremy Hefner at Cohen’s home Saturday night, according to a report from Joel Sherman of the New York Post. It’s the second known meeting between the Mets and Yamamoto this offseason following Cohen’s trip to Japan earlier this month. SNY’s Andy Martino reports that Yamamoto will also hold a second meeting with the Yankees while he’s in New York.
Yamamoto, 25, is widely regarded as the top starting pitcher on the free agent market this offseason. His market has begun to heat up in recent weeks, with a report earlier this month indicating that seven top suitors had emerged in the Yamamoto sweepstakes. Subsequent reports have indicated that each of the Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox, Giants, Blue Jays, and Phillies have met with Yamamoto, leaving that group as the likely finalists for the youngster’s services. While Martino reports that discussions between the Mets and Yamamoto have not yet reached the stage of a formal offer, Sherman indicates that the bidding process between interested clubs is expected to “intensify” this coming week, with a resolution expected before the end of the calendar year. That’s hardly a surprise, as Yamamoto’s posting window expires on January 4.
With so many big market teams involved in the bidding process, rumors have swirled that Yamamoto’s final price tag could exceed $300MM. Though that hefty sum could factor in the posting fee owed to the Orix Buffaloes as compensation for Yamamoto’s services, it would nonetheless be an astounding contract for the right-hander. Yankees ace Gerrit Cole’s $324MM pact currently standing as the only contract (except that of two-way superstar Shohei Ohtani) among starting pitchers to reach the $300MM threshold. That Yamamoto could even approach that stratosphere without having even thrown a pitch in the majors is a testament to his unique combination of youth and immense talent. Across seven seasons with the Buffaloes, Yamamoto has never posted an ERA above the 2.35 figure of his rookie season and has posted sub-2.00 ERAs in four of his last five seasons, including a microscopic 1.16 ERA in 171 frames this past season.
After parting ways with future Hall of Famers Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander at the trade deadline over the summer, the Mets could certainly use the sort of front-of-the-rotation caliber arm Yamamoto projects to be. While the club has already added Luis Severino to its starting staff this offseason, even a bounce-back season from the righty would leave the Mets with holes to fill in a rotation that includes little certainty behind Kodai Senga and Jose Quintana. Righty Tylor Megill and lefty Joey Lucchesi appear to be the most likely internal candidates to round out the club’s rotation as things stand.
As for the Yankees, the club is in a somewhat similar boat with little certainty behind Cole. Though lefties Nestor Cortes and Carlos Rodon have both flashed front-of-the-rotation potential in the past, both southpaws are coming off down seasons in 2023 during which they were plagued by injuries and under performance. Meanwhile, the club has little depth outside of that trio and Clarke Schmidt after shipping rotation candidates Michael King, Randy Vasquez, and Jhony Brito to the Padres in exchange for Juan Soto earlier this month.
One wrinkle in the New York clubs’ pursuits of Yamamoto is their backup plans should he ultimately sign elsewhere. While the Yankees are generally expected to pivot to other top-of-the market arms such as Shota Imanaga in the event they fail to sign Yamamoto, the Mets appear unlikely to do the same. Recent reports have indicated that Stearns’s front office is not expected to pivot to other top-of-the-market options like Imanaga, Jordan Montgomery, and Blake Snell in the event that the club misses on Yamamoto. Per the report, the Mets view Yamamoto as a uniquely valuable player worth splurging on, but would otherwise prefer to focus on shorter-term deals for mid-market arms such as Lucas Giolito as they look to rebuild their rotation mix.
10centBeerNight
For the more excitable elements of NYM base, never doubt Cohen’s seriousness. He may not get it done (I’d still wager LAD if I had to guess), but he ain’t “punting on 2024” as some might think
WiffleBall
Interesting that you ignore the final part of this article. They are clearly looking at Yamamoto as a long-term signing for when they’re ready to compete in 2025-2026 and beyond, and aren’t seeking him as a solution in 2024.
I don’t doubt that the Mets have the *potential* to compete in 2024, but I think both Cohen and Stearns are looking at it realistically as a transitionary year.
norcalblue
10 cent and whiffle, the points you are making are not mutually exclusive. Yamamoto wants long-term deal and that clearly is being offered by all these teams. No one knows whether he is comfortable with not competing immediately. My uninformed guess is that’s not his highest priority.
There are reasons why the Dodgers might be optimistic at this point. However,I do not think that they are going to be willing to offer what Cohen places on the table though and for that reason, I believe the Mets should be considered the favorite. Unlike Shohei, I think maximum dollars, delivered in the shortest period of time, will be the highest or one of the highest priorities.
deweybelongsinthehall
I’m wondering if the second round meetings are because it’s getting closer to a deal or because the rumors yesterday that both the Giants and Sox offered $300m+ deals blew out of the water the framework of a deal each had made.
westcoastmetsfan
The article clearly stated the Mets have not made a formal offer yet.
deweybelongsinthehall
Framework of a deal is different than an actual offer. If for example they were talking $200m over 8 and now it’s at least $300m for 10, wouldn’t you want a second interview before committing?
norcalblue
Given his young age, I also believe Yamamoto is going to have the leverage to demand and obtain opt out provisions to his liking.
all in the suit that you wear
I’m guessing it will come down to the Dodgers and the Mets. Who does he choose – Ohtani or Cohen? Actually, I think he will choose the Mets. In LA, he will always be in Ohtani’s shadow.
User 401527550
So you don’t think he would help them win more games in 2024?
VonPurpleHayes
Not punting and going all-in are opposite ends of the spectrum. I think the Mets retooling is somewhere in the middle.
Motor City Beach Bum
Yamamoto signs with the Tigers. Bank on it.
Jack5102
Orioles????
Motor City Beach Bum
The O’s need a #1 starter and they can keep all their prospect capital if they go that route.
Bob Sacamano 310
They’ll never sign that kind of deal
User 401527550
They will sign a third string starter on the free agent market when the big boys are gone for Pennie’s on the dollar.
deweybelongsinthehall
What about the A’s who will need a star in Vegas? Lol
boblowlaw2
Oakland
martras
100% going to the Athletics! LOL
BPax
Wherever happens, the one incontrovertible thing is his nickname will be “The Admiral” (if it isn’t already)
neurogame
After signing his contract, Yamamoto will be able to afford a Bengal Tiger amongst other wild animals. Bank in it.
Yanks2
Makes no sense. If the Mets don’t get Yamamoto, they won’t sign Imanaga but they’ll sign Giolito. Lmao what
ohyeadam
Mets are looking long term. If you can’t get the young ace, 25yo Yamamoto, for a decade sign the best bounce back candidate, Giolito, you can then flip for prospects
Yanks2
Giolito sports a career 4.43 ERA and he’s only had two good seasons and one decent season, the latter of which he only pitched 70 innings. Mets should’ve just retained Bassit if they wanted a Giolito
WiffleBall
Bassitt was a FA last offseason under a different GM., and he got a 3-year deal. Giolito will likely be cheaper, and probably on a one-year contract, that as previous poster said, would only be signed so he could be flipped in the event he has success.
Please keep up, ya dingus.
ohyeadam
Of the remaining SPs expected to get one year deals maybe Clev or Ryu could be better value? Severino was the best choice imo
Ma4170
He had three straight top 11 CY vote seasons. You make it sound like he wasnt an ace, but he was. Not a top end one, but still. 2022 awful, 2023 decent til trade deadline, horrific after. Cheaper, shorter term commitment and hope for near return to form like first half last year.
stymeedone
Giolito will get a multi year pact. Teams are paying for pitching, even average pitching.
martras
Top 11?
If you’re not top 3, you’re not worth talking about in context of “Cy Young” voting.
User 401527550
That’s a ridiculous comment.
Ma4170
What are you talking about, of course a 6th 7th and 11th in CY voting matters. That comment makes zero sense. And this whole top 3 finalist nonsense didn’t start til very recently. He was a top 15 sp in baseball those three years by most measures.
Silent Bob23
Agree
martras
@Mets6986??
@Ma4170
@Silent Bob23
Cy Young voting in beyond #3 is always going to be a “had a good year” type of situation. All it takes is a homer in the voting block to put a person on that voting. It’s not relevant to whether or not the pitcher was legitimately considered a contender for the Cy Young.
Chris Bassitt has been “top 10” in Cy Young voting 3 of the past 4 years! Bassitt is not considered an ace by any stretch of the imagination. He’s viewed as a good mid rotation guy, and he was viewed as the 3rd best starter for Toronto behind Gausman and Berrios when he took his contract… after actually pitching well.
There are 30 voters for Cy Young and they each choose the top 5 pitchers. All it takes is one homer to vote for a pitcher to put them into the voting totals.
2019 Giolito was left off 22 of 30 ballots entirely. 8x 5th place.
2020 Giolito was left off 20 of 30 ballots entirely. 3x 3rd, 2x 4th, 5x 5th.
2021 Giolito was left off all but 1 ballot, receiving a lone #5 vote.
2022 Giolito was left off all 30 ballots entirely.
2023 Giolito was left off all 30 ballots entirely.
Ma4170
I get that, but it still tells you he was good enough to be considered vote worthy by anyone, which means something. I can tell you who wasn’t on any ballots those three years, about 150 other pitchers.
As I said, he was top 15 in MLB when you look across most statistical measures from 2019-21. He had a 129 ERA+, was 18th in ERA, 12th in WHIP, 16th in FIP, 18th in xFIP, 7th in WAR, 8th in K/9, 7th in opp avg, 10th in SIERA. Which is why he appeared on CY ballots – he was a low-end ace.
maxmilna
Dodgers are getting Imanaga too.
Yankee Clipper
I heard they just bought Japan yesterday….
User 401527550
Great he’s a back end of the rotation starter.
Mynameisnoname
Yamamoto is going to net another 300 million in free meals before this courting is finished.
tedtheodorelogan
Read yesterday that the Giants and Red Sox already had offers on the table of over 300MM.
mookiesboy
gotta believe that includes the posting fee
Mets will top that Offer by a mile
Hemlock
> Mets will top that Offer by a mile
Ummm…
How much is a mile worth ?
Asking for a friend (she runs marathons)
Buzzz Killington
Just sign with the Dodgers already. Make deferred super funny hilarious lol haha joke under this comment.
rememberthecoop
No, I’ll defer those jokes until later.
Viveleempireevil
#Yammothani
User 401527550
The Dodgers are already out. It’s between the Yankees and the Mets.
Yanks2
Says who
padam
Steve Cohen and his checkbook.
Yanks2
Steve Cohen created a disastrous team that underperformed. No one is going to play for that joke of a franchise just because he’s rich
butch779988
Joel Sherman is a hack.
Yanks2
Heyman
Bigtimeyankeefan
Imanaga would be like when the Yankees pivoted and signed kei igawa….. nooooooo!
Fever Pitch Guy
Big – Irabu.
Hemlock
Hide Da Key, I Rob U
Salzilla
The Mets wanting to sign Yamamoto this bad while not seemingly all in otherwise is baffling. Like Cohen is obsessed with this one guy and that’s it? How is that enticing to the player other than cash? Yankees have cash AND the will to win. It would be a no-brainer to me if I were him.
WiffleBall
Yep. If the Mets tell him “we’re not really going to compete full-bore until 2026” while Dodgers and Yanks are telling him they’ll spend big and try to win every year, you have to wonder how he’ll feel.
But who knows, for the right money it might be worth waiting a year or two.
mookiesboy
in what bizarro would would they say that?
They told Max what he wanted to hear to Leave. They’ll tell FAs what they want to hear to Come
filihok
Sal
“The Mets wanting to sign Yamamoto this bad while not seemingly all in otherwise is baffling. Like Cohen is obsessed with this one guy and that’s it? ”
Makes perfect sense.
The Mets have a plan for this year – being competitive but not “all in”. So they aren’t necessarily going after all the top F/A this year.
But the Mets think that Yamamoto is so much better than the rest that they still want him for this year and the future.
I’m sure he’s smart enough to not be confused by that.
I can’t, of course, speak for him, but the Mets saying we expect to be on the fringe this year and all-in over the next half decade might be enough to lure him. It might not.
Salzilla
Sure, but what has this ownership done so far to prove that? They already bought and shipped out their last crop of acquisitions, and the franchise in total has never instilled a sense of stability. You can say whatever you want to the guy, but there’s zero track record long and short term to prove it.
filihok
Sal
“Sure”
Good to see we’ve made progress. You didn’t understand something and now you do.
Salzilla
…not sure what you’re on about, but I knew exactly what I was saying from the outset. The Mets not being trustworthy of holding onto that end of the bargain should go without saying.
filihok
Salz
“I knew exactly what I was saying from the outset. ”
“The Mets wanting to sign Yamamoto this bad while not seemingly all in otherwise is baffling.”
It makes perfect sense to me. I was trying to help you not be baffled
Travis’ Wood
Because he’s 25 years old???
stymeedone
@salzilla
Yamamoto is a unique add this year, as he is only 25 years of age. He’s signing a long term contract. The Yankees just went thru a period where they were not adding players. Hard to predict what they will do after this off season. The Mets are taking a one year step back to allow Sterns to evaluate what he has. It doesn’t mean they can’t make the playoffs this year, and it doesn’t mean they don’t have the will to win. Not baffling at all.
User 401527550
Yankees don’t have a will to win. Their roster isn’t that great besides Judge and Soto.
Salzilla
Roster construction at present doesn’t signify they dont have a will to win. Not every signing is going to work out, but NYY have rarely shown that they don’t try to be in it.
Yanks2
You forgot to mention Cole, Torres, and Volpe
User 401527550
Did you just tought your .666 ops over hyped bust of a shortstop as the key to the Yankees season? Torres was on the trade block a month ago.
Yanks2
Volpe was a rookie. He hit lots of home runs and stole lots of bases
Killer of Ignorance
Congratulations. You’re a finalist for the stupidest comment of the year.
LordD99
A 5/500 should get the deal done for Cohen.
Poolhalljunkies
FSG (fenway sports group)can match whatever cohen offers should they choose without missing a beat
horaceallen
Because they have been showing such a willingness to spend the last few years.
Poolhalljunkies
Umm you must have not been paying attention ..aside from 2023 the red sox have had no lower than the 6th highest payroll in mlb in the past 10 seasons leading the league 2 times in that span as recently as 2019..so yes ..they spend a ton..spending has never been an issue..they just havnt spent wisely
kingbum
In case you don’t know Liverpool FC which FSG owns reported over €702 million in revenue last year, this is 3rd in Europe. That is what FSG was missing during the pandemic, they no longer have that worry. Plus John Henry is not the only billionaire in the group, LeBron James is also a group member worth over a billion dollars. Liverpool’s and NESN’s successes will allow Boston to spend with anybody including Cohen.
Goose
The could and should but will they?
User 401527550
Cohen is worth ten times their net worth. They sure can’t match anything he can offer.
Poolhalljunkies
Fsg is worth 8 bn. Cohen aprox 19 bn.so 2 times..but sure he can bid more if this were texas hold em
User 401527550
It really is the same premise as Texas Holden.
kingbum
What you don’t know is what are Steve Cohen’s liabilities? Sure he might be worth 19 billion but how much of that is liquid? Like Elon Musk is one of the richest guys in the world worth 200 billion but when it came for the 50 billion to buy Twitter he had to give Tesla stock to the bank as collateral and get a loan from Morgan Stanley to make the purchase. Musk as rich as he is was not liquid. I think FSG and Cohen have similar liquidity….
rememberthecoop
Imagine if the guy was actually taller than the mound…
This one belongs to the Reds
All these guys go for big money to large markets because they made sure the system is set up that way. No surprise.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Why don’t the Reds sign some of these guys? Are they down allowed to bid? Not allowed to meet with the guy?
This one belongs to the Reds
Most likely because Buffalo Bob is cheap and Po Boy doesn’t know how to build a team.
But it will eventually go outside the team’s price range anyway since they don’t have a large local TV deal and they can’t count on it anyway being with Bally’s.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
I hear you because our guy’s not doing much either so far. Fingers crossed.
WiffleBall
They could always defer the money for 30 years like the Dodgers. The fact is, though, they don’t really want to win, they want to make money
So do the big market teams, the difference is, the big market teams have fanbases who won’t support them if they don’t try to compete every year.
Wire to wire 2024
That’s way too much risk for the reds
stymeedone
@Gary
Do some research and the answer is obvious. They don’t have the revenue to support that level of payroll. Their market is 1/5 that of NY and their TV revenue is less than that. The number of years and the amount make it unrealistic for them to bid. Most owners don’t kick in from their own pocket, unlike Cohen.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Stymee, which is it, the team doesn’t have the revenue to begin with OR the owner doesn’t kick in money?
If the team doesn’t have the revenue then there’s something wrong with those running the team. Get to work on the revenue would make sense to me. One fifth the market or not.
If it’s because the owner isn’t kicking in then there’s nothing you can do. You’ve got an owner not into competing for a championship. You’ll be at best, middle of the pack every year unless lightning strikes.
My point is that I’m pushing back on “the system is set up that way where small Market teams can’t succeed.” That’s bs.
But I’m a no-nonsense, no excuse guy so perhaps my judgement is unfair. So be it.
This one belongs to the Reds
This has been said several times. An owner 99 times out of a 100 is not going to use his personal wealth if the business does not sustain the income to pay for those expenses. If they ran a business like that, they wouldn’t be billionaires to begin with.
I know the large market apologists don’t want to admit this system is broken for more than half the clubs in baseball, but that doesn’t change the facts.
raisinsss
If not for the sizable donations made to such organizations as the Reds via revenue sharing and other subsidies, would they even exist?
This one belongs to the Reds
I doubt these so called sizeable donations make up for the 180 million dollar discrepancy between the Dodgers and Reds local TV deals, for instance, not to mention other teams. Half of baseball don’t know if they’ll get anything from Bally’s this year on that front.
raisinsss
How much are they, do you think?
Do you know?
Senioreditor
He’s exceeding 330 million and that’s pretty crazy for a guy who hasn’t thrown a pitch in MLB.
filihok
Se
“He’s exceeding 330 million and that’s pretty crazy for a guy who hasn’t thrown a pitch in MLB.”
Not really
Or not AS crazy as it first seems
People forget how artificially depressed players’ salaries are at the beginning of their careers.
If high school and college players were free agents, and not drafted, they’d command much larger contracts before they ever performed at the ML level. Imagine what Harper and Strasberg would have gotten if they’d been free agents. And that Ohtani guy.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Well it looks like the Red Sox offer must be massive !!!
He’s going back to the Mets and Yankees to see if they want to beat it. That would explain the second meeting with the New York teams.
Poolhalljunkies
The fact boston and sf are driving the price up on NY’s and LD is no surprise
.A ..they want the and B they want to stick it to NY ..loving what breslow/fsg are doing here even if they dont get him lol
User 401527550
The Red Sox offer can’t be to enticing as he already isn’t interested.
Poolhalljunkies
Thier offer Just ensures someone is paying over 30 mil aav..and nothing says they are out
User 401527550
He wouldn’t be having second in person meeting if the Red Sox were still in it. They would be just be passing around contract offers for his final decision. He’s deciding between the Mets and Yankees who he’s had relationship with for years.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Mets6986, and you know this how? Because he’s on a plane to Toronto LOL.
User 401527550
How do I know he had second meetings with Mets and Yankees? Or that he’s had relationships with both teams for years? I don’t know widespread reporting for the last few years. You do know this has been followed for a couple of years and not just this last week.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
No your first reply, that you know he’s not interested in Boston.
Yazmyhero
Can you imagine if he doesn’t turn out to be who they think he is?
WiffleBall
Tanaka got a huge deal at the time and never lived up to the hype he generated before he came over. He was never truly a top-tier ace. But he was worth it because he was always REALLY good and stayed healthy– he was a beloved player who was tenacious and reliable.
All Yamamoto needs to do is be really good. He doesn’t necessarily need to be the #1 ace, best starter in the league, etc.
stymeedone
If you pay him like one, YES, he does have to be the #1.
Poolhalljunkies
Would the yankees really offer him more than cole?
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Because of his age, Maybe so.
mlbnyyfan
@Pool. Cole opting out next Off-season. He will get paid more than Yamamoto. IMO trade Cole now he’s not worth even bigger dollars at his current age.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Yankees can void his opt-out if they exercise his ’29 option. With another typical Cole season, it’ll be automatic. How do you not know this?
Precocious Neophyte
That’s not how Cole’s opt-out works. Will he opt out? Yes 100%, barring some major injury. When he does opt out, all the Yankees have to do to keep him is add an extra year to the end of his current long term deal.
Trade Cole now, the reigning Cy Young and a consistency king? If you misunderstood his opt-out situation, ok I almost understand, maybe. Otherwise you’re nuts.
Ella B
All the Yankees have to do is to add 1 year at $36 million and Cole is locked up. I don’t recall a large contract like Coles having such a strange provision, but it is what it is. So Coles overall contract will be for $360 million.
mookiesboy
Yes mets will steal both Soto and Cole right out from under the Yankees next year. It will be Glorious!
Bruin1012
They might get Soto but no chance on Cole. Cole’s agent Boras has already come out and said he’s not going to be a free agent next year. The only way it happens is if he gets a truly devastating injury otherwise he’s not leaving the Yankees.
User 401527550
Yes Boras didn’t say that.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Why would he opt-out to become a FA if he gets hurt?
Anthony maresca
Exactly Boras point, if he gets injured Colecwont trigger opt out cause Yankees would deny theirvend and he becomes a free agent getting them off the hook for 4/144
westcoastmetsfan
Especially with Cole having an opt out looming
LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert
I don’t think Yamamoto is going to be nearly as good as people are saying. My prediction is that hes going to pitch to around a 4 ERA at the all star break and then go down with Tommy John surgery and be out all of year 2. His frame doesn’t bold well for long term success. He looks like he can break down at any second. His contract will virtually be a ticking time bomb
filihok
LFGM
“I don’t think Yamamoto is going to be nearly as good as people are saying. My prediction is that hes going to pitch to around a 4 ERA at the all star break and then go down with Tommy John surgery and be out all of year 2. ”
Imagine having the entire internet available to you and wasting your time typing this.
stymeedone
Then, by all means, let the LOLMets sign him.
User 401527550
You have some really horrible takes on this website. You are the most pessimistic person I’ve ever encountered on the internet.
metsgolf
LFGM’s baseball knowledge could fit snugly into a mosquito’s ass.
The Former Player
Will Yamato agree to the Yankees only if he is given veto power over future team moves like the shady aging ohtani (worst contract of all time and the fans will turn on him within 4 years) demanded and was given by the Dodgers?
YankeesBleacherCreature
So much salt.
larkraxm
It wasn’t at knife point! They agreed to a contract.
Poolhalljunkies
Whats interesting is the .mets and yankees keep having more meetings..its like going to view a house multiple times and not making a bid..its telling the seller you arent serious
filihok
Phj
“its telling the seller you arent serious”
Or, it’s, you know, not like that at all.
Wut?
Poolhalljunkies
Guess we will know when they actually make an offer.instead of both trying to play the same game to let the market set before they try and top it
yanks2323
If signing him is going to mean not being able to retain Soto! Hard pass! Pivot and sign Imanaga and Josh Hader!
User 401527550
They aren’t resigning Soto either way.
CaseyAbell
Why don’t the Mets just skip the dinner and make an offer? It sounds like the Red Sox and Giants already have huge offers on the (non-dinner) table.
User 401527550
You don’t think they already have.
ohyeadam
Have there been any reports of whether or not he will pitch every 5 or 6 days?
wvsteve
As a unbiased baseball fan I hope he goes to Mets
CCooper8920
He’s going to the Dodgers
User 401527550
They are already out. It’s Ny for him one way or another.
AgeeHarrelsonJones
Ccoop
So you have a crystal ball?
Maybe you can offer some investment tips too smh based on your ability to see into the future
abcrazy4dodgers
The “Well boys, this is what the Dodgers are offering me, exceed it or give it up” Tour 2023 makes an East Coast swing…..
larkraxm
Maybe, but it might go more like this, “I really want to play for the Yankees”! I understand the hubris of Dodger fans, given they were “chosen” by Ohtani, but the Yankees weren’t in on that competition. The reporting is that the Yankees felt confident about Yamamoto the whole time. They have cell phones now. His agent could have just called from LA if he wasn’t truly interested in playing in NY.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Actually was the Giants that made that offer to Ohtani and the Dodgers matched it.
If what you’re saying is true it’s the first time this off season its happening this way.
Goose
The Red Sox have to make a splash. San Francisco has the money and saw they took their shot with judge. It is a question of how much teams will bid up to but there are two right there that may drive it. Get the Giants or Yankees involved and it is going to be show time. Snell is loving this. Once Yamamoto is off the board he just says how much? Oh and I have two Cy Youngs on my resume so add to it.
What is hurting San Francisco is what has happened to the city with the crime and homelessness. My friend is a sport writer and his classmate works for the Giants. Ohtani shot down the Giants out of the gate for this reason.
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filihok
Goose
“My friend is a sport writer and his classmate works for the Giants. Ohtani shot down the Giants out of the gate for this reason.”
Right
larkraxm
Yes! Ohtani picked the City of Angels. No homeless, no trash, no crime. There are no cats in Los Angeles, and the streets are paved with cheese. What a freaking joke. It had nothing to do with roster talent and commitment to roster talent, he did a head count of street people in LA vs San Fran, then made a life altering choice based on the result!!
AgeeHarrelsonJones
Goose
Wrong on 2 counts
Snell’s market will not be shaped or even strongly influenced by Yamomoto’s. Look at their ages and injury histories.
SF’s so called problems are not unique to SF. You are perpetuating stereotypes
maxmilna
Sunny L.A. to wet cold N.Y.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Things versus rings.
User 401527550
Yes having rolling blackouts and water limitations is something to brag about.
bcjd
So, the Red Sox were “in” but now they’re out. Different day, same story. It’s getting tired.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
How on Earth do you come to conclusion that the Red Sox are out? My goodness people just cut up your hat throw it in the trash now with this defeatist attitude. It says nowhere in the article the Red Sox are out. You just choose to think that way.
The truth is probably something like this. Red Sox made an offer and really it’s their final offer. Not necessary to have a second meeting. If there’s something else you can find that beats our offer then okay but here’s what we can commit. Let us know. We’d love to have you.
Poolhalljunkies
I get the impression that this version of the sox is willing to get in a bidding war based on ownership comments..will assume they are till they dont
rocky7
For a player like Yama, you and Red Sox nation may think that its possible to make a “final offer” but in reality, if you’re really interested in a player like this, you ride the pony until the end…..not make a brazen statement like we made our final offer and its up to him to take it or not, when in reality the leverage is in his corner as far as teams willing to negotiate…….Bravo to your thinking, but the “final offer”, Chowder, and Gulf and Duncan commercials aren’t going to cut it…….
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
You’re absolutely correct but in a case like this there’s only so far you can go. Why not say so upfront? To engage in a bidding war at this level is suicide.
rocky7
Absolutely….don’t disagree….its just that you could just feel that the field trying to sign Yama was going to get into a bidding war….no problem with making a final offer….but not too much of a chance to get him signed unless intangibles come into play…..
Poolhalljunkies
Rocky. Where does it say anyplace any “brazen” statements about final offers being made…me and red spx nation would like you to tell is where you saw or heard this?
martras
Yamamoto will go to the Yankees. The Mets have been a perennial disaster in the front office for more than a decade. Every big contract recipient needs a second team involved to be “negotiating.”
Ella B
Not sure if you’ve heard but the Mets have a new front office. Did you not read the article before commenting?
martras
This is our year!!!!!! – Mets front office every year.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Lindor? Nimmo? McNeil? They all signed without much fanfare.
AgeeHarrelsonJones
Martras
I will fix that comment for you
“I know nothing about the Mets FO or Mets history but I’ll bloviate inanely anyway.”
You’re welcome!
JayRyder
This is probably gonna go 500 plus.
larkraxm
Only if it’s the Mets! No other team is giving him that much money.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
500 plus? That would mean he’s bringing 20 home runs a year with him. No that’s way too much. Perhaps 300 plus and that’s really stretching it for this player.
Just think that $700 gets you a Cy young candidate AND 40 plus home runs. No way this pitcher gets 500.
Whyme
Well as A Jay’s fan I know we aren’t signing him.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Don’t be too hard on yourself. There will be 29 other teams saying the same thing within a day or two, THE LOUSY RED SOX INCLUDED !!!
Ooops sorry. Even rah rah positive fan like me is starting to get a little antsy here. If we don’t get this guy, and it looks like we probably won’t, we better get the Japanese lefty or Montgomery or some semi stud in the rotation, and then trade for another starter to go with him pretty quick.
Poolhalljunkies
Gary..we were never going to get him
.were just helping run up the price at this point ..i expect boston will have a better shot at montgomery
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Ok. Fingers crossed.
JACKCLARK25
Yamamoto to the Mets would be a total bust and a total waste.
The Mets are going nowhere fast. Last year with Verlander and Sherzer they couldnt even put it together.. The Mets are a cursed organization, like the ugly red headed stepchild., Yamamoto will go to either the red sox or yankees, he wont play in the shadow of Ohtani in LA.
AgeeHarrelsonJones
Jack Clark
Welcome to the 21st century.
The Enlightenment has been going on for a few centuries. There is no such thing as a “curse” -Keep up Jack! Therthis thing called science…
Yanks2
I agree about the shadow part. But I do think he goes to the Red Sox and the Yankees pivot to Imanaga
Killer of Ignorance
The Red Sox?!! Why, oh why? The Red Sox are about as appealing as a dirt sandwich. They will finish last again without a doubt.
Yanks2
3 WS titles in the last 15 years and have a high payroll
Mickey Solis
This is all another smokescreen so we can be stabbed in the heart when the Dodgers buy him too because they’re the only team that cares and buys everyone they can because they can’t accept not winning 100 games ever and baseball is ruined now because of those greedy pigs.
PinstripedPride
Yamamoto is something of an exception for the Mets, if they do get him. This article cites Will Sammon of The Athletic saying that the Mets likely aren’t going to spend big in the free agent market this year. msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/despite-interest-in-yoshi…
377194
Cohen will outbid everyone. Where Yamamoto goes could be another story.
Edde1968
I’m betting Yamamoto will get a deferred contract just like ohtahni got.
PinstripedPride
Not if he doesn’t want one. The vast majority of free agents don’t do deferred contracts. Ohtani was a big exception and nobody expected him to defer so much.
bestone
Someone saw Yamamoto on a flight heading to Toronto….
YanksPhan42
I just saw Yamo’s contract could now exceed 12-14 years and over 300mil????
If I’m Cashman, I laugh, hang up and sign Monty for 5 years and 100 mill. Then grab Clevinger too and keep the change. Let the Muts overpay him and watch his elbow fall off in year two.
Bruin1012
Except Monty will probably cost 7 years 200 or so million pitching is really expensive. There is no way Yanks or anyone is getting Monty for 5/100 not even close.
Killer of Ignorance
12-14 years? You are making that up. Without a doubt.
Killer of Ignorance
I just saw that 12-14 year rumor story, and you were right. I was wrong, I apologize for questioning your comment. I just can’t believe that somebody would go 12-14 years. Anyway, my bad. Sorry Yanksphan42
YanksPhan42
I wouldn’t believe it at first either to be honest. It’s that asinine!
bumpy93
got a feeling Dave dumbrowski’s going to strike! he hasn’t been very busy this winter so far surprisingly other than Nola. I got a feeling that they just might outbid everybody. yeah that would put them in a really high tax tier. with that being said they should have been in the world series for a second straight year last year. we almost won it in 22 we’re definitely contenders and you put him in our rotation with wheeler Nola that could be one of the three best starting pitchers in baseball. I think Dave Dombrowski it’s going to put John Middleton’s money where dombrowski’s mouth is
Killer of Ignorance
i don’t know if this has been mentioned at some point here, but along with the news that the Mets and Yankees were going to meet with Yamamoto for a second time, it was reported by the NY Post that Yamamoto requested the 2nd meeting with the Yankees. Now, what do we interpret from that tidbit?
Killer of Ignorance
Perhaps Yamamoto is giving NYY a chance to match his highest offer?
Killer of Ignorance
Would I love to hear breaking news that Yamamoto is signing with the Yankees. Best Christmas present ever.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Rumor is…
They ordered take out from Little Caesar’s.
Guess what’s back on the menu?
Poolhalljunkies
This yamamoto persuit reminds me of the jose contreras negotiations back in the day when the red sox rented a whole hotel to keep the yankees away ..and it ended with him signing in ny anyway and theo trashing a room