The Dodgers are in need of multiple starting pitchers. Jack Harris of the Los Angeles Times reports that L.A. has shown interest in free agent right-hander Lucas Giolito as part of that search.
It’s the first known link for Giolito, who is one of the more difficult evaluations in the class. It wasn’t that long ago that the longtime White Sox hurler looked on his way to a nine-figure deal. Giolito sported a 3.79 ERA with a strong 25.8% strikeout rate over 21 starts at the time of the trade deadline. He had turned 29 in July, making him one of the younger starters in the class. A midseason trade to the Angels rendered him ineligible for the qualifying offer, removing draft pick compensation as a factor.
His market has since been muddled by a dismal final couple months. Giolito was rocked for a 6.89 ERA in six starts as an Angel. The Halos plummeted from playoff contention and put him on waivers. The Guardians claimed him and gave him the ball six more times to close the year. Giolito had an even tougher run in Cleveland, posting a 7.04 ERA. In his final 12 appearances of the season, he was tagged for a 6.96 ERA and surrendered a staggering 21 home runs in 63 1/3 innings (just under three homers per nine).
Giolito concluded the year with a 4.88 ERA overall. That marked his second straight season allowing nearly five earned runs per nine innings. It’s a notable drop from the mid-3.00s marks he posted each year between 2019-21, although that’s mostly a reflection of the season’s last two months.
To his credit, the former All-Star took all 33 turns through the rotation. It marked his third straight season surpassing 30 starts and continued an exceptional run of durability over the last six years. Giolito is tied for fifth in starts and ranks eighth in innings pitched since the 2018 season. He isn’t missing bats as he had at his 2019-20 peak, but he has fanned more than a quarter of opponents over the last two years.
Giolito certainly won’t continue allowing home runs at the clip he had in Anaheim and Cleveland. Teams can anticipate some amount of positive regression in that regard, but it’s still hard to draw up a much worse finish to a pitcher’s platform year short of injury.
That leaves him in an interesting spot as a free agent. If he simply wanted to maximize his earning potential, he could still look for three or four years. Jameson Taillon and Taijuan Walker secured four years with an average salary in the $17-18MM range last winter despite some inconsistency in their career track records. Yet Giolito is also young enough to potentially prioritize a chance to get back to free agency within a season or two. MLBTR predicted he’d go the latter route, estimating a two-year, $44MM contract that allows him to opt out after the first season.
A shorter-term pact of that nature could be particularly appealing to the Dodgers. They have shied away from long-term investments in free agent starters. A pitcher-friendly home park could mitigate some of the homer concerns, while Giolito’s track record of absorbing innings would be welcome for a young staff. It’d be similarly easy to see the appeal from the player’s perspective. The Dodgers have a strong reputation for developing pitching. That Giolito is an L.A. native who attended Harvard-Westlake is an added bonus.
While there’s a sensible fit, Giolito may need to wait until some of the top starters come off the board. Harris notes that the Dodgers are essentially in a holding pattern as they await clarity on their chances of adding Shohei Ohtani or Yoshinobu Yamamoto. Los Angeles has an estimated $70MM available before even reaching the first luxury tax threshold, so they’ll surely add multiple players, but they’ll presumably have various offseason plans contingent on whether they land either of their top two targets.
For a movie role?
Who doesn’t the Dodgers have interest in? Any chance LA wants Stanton if JD doesn’t come back to DH
lol zero chance.
lol Stanton is wearing pinstripes until he gets DFA’d in a couple seasons.
Or walks with a cain
I heard he’s counting his steps.
Probably one more season of the Giancarlo Stanton experience.
A Lorenzo Cain?
An able cain.
I wouldn’t take Stanton for free. One of the most overrated players in recent memory.
This where I say please stop the mindless speculation on just about every player being wanted by every team. The clock can’t move fast enough to get to Sunday Night and we find out who’s really interested in who. Other than Gray and Nola, Nobody of real consequence has changed hands yet, Oh some of these middle of the road guys might step up and surprise I’ll admit. Please end the speculation and let’s get on with the show!
Maybe if he went back to his old name and miraculously reverted back to solid form.
Stanton’s dream team is and has always been the Dodgers!
He would go to LA and hit 50 homers a season.
What about Trevor Bauer? Is he available? He had a pretty good punch out ratio.
He wouldn’t even play 50 games. He’d be injured.
Yes, let the native son come back home!
Nobody is preventing him from coming back home. His career earnings allow him to do whatever he likes (except pitch in the majors).
Hard Luck Loser #3
As a Padre fan I hope they get him.
Why? The Padres couldn’t even hit HIM let alone the rest of the pitchers in the league…
CardsFann – ok. Poke the bear. The last time the Padres faced the Card and the Dodgers in playoffs the Padres came out on top.
Sleep on that. Good night
Ok Vince, let’s bring the Mets into the conversation – how did their last playoff series with the Padres turn out?
The Padres are the bear now? Jeez, they win one series over the Dodgers and suddenly think they’re the big, bad bullies of the NL West. Not even last year, either.
Does ringworm medication count?
RE: ltc, CF77, VCTM, dB
An example of the absolute worst of sports discourse.
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You’re only has good as your last season
What have the cards done lately?
Padres = Last Place
How many rings do they have in San Diego? Last time I checked it was zero. 1986 was long time ago it’s true,but at least flags fly at Citi Field.
VCTM
“Padres have zero rings. ZERO”
Big “I scored 4 touchdowns in one game in high school” energy
What a troll. What I “enjoyed” is that they don’t even know that Vince Coleman played for the Cardinals, or that many Dodger fans like me had a history with Joe Kelly *before* 2018.
The Joe Kelly Face game did a lot to make us forgive and forget him drilling Hanley Ramirez.
11 rings is nice 27 is better. Just saying.
Dear Tigers, please sign Lucas Giolito for one year at 25 mil before one of the rich, smart teams moves first.
Yours truly, ejemp
P.S. If the Yankees want to dump Stanton, then please sign up to pay 1/3 of his remaining contract because he’s still good for 25-30 dingers a year.
Let me make your job easier. Just let us know who they’re NOT interested in!
Careful. You’re entering Yankees territory now.
Even if they’re not interested, there remains slight interest.
It worked when they signed Thor.
This year’s model.
Today’s “the Dodgers are interested in” story.
Stay tuned tomorrow!
Careful I heard they’re interested in someone who comments with witty remarks.
that made me laugh
Yes!!!!
As a fourth starter in the rotation I’m not opposed to it
Look what the Dodgers did with Andrew Haney and Tyler Anderson. I’m thinking they can do something similar with Lucas Giolito.
It always drives me crazy when the Dodgers take a struggling pitcher and make him good. They are good at the reclamation projects.
And it tickles my pickle when they do ^_^.
Dodgers pernially pass up on cancers like Soto and get crafty with their trades and signings.
Let’s hope they have a good off season
Soto is not a cancer, he is just slightly overrated and will ask double what he is worth. On an eight year $200 million deal, twenty teams should want him.
This makes sense the Dodgers believe they can fix him. Lucas is from SoCal and has said before he would like to stay in the SoCal area.
He would be a low risk high reward type guy and should be considered a 4th or 5th starter.
Zerbs: Gio also said he wanted to stay with the Sox, but he had recently fallen and hit his head when he said that. He has a lot of talent and showed that as the Sox’ ace until 2021 when The Great Demoralizer took over as manager.
There we go zerbs, I think the change of scenery from a cold Chicago city to a brighter warmer city combined with the fact that he’s from SoCal might propel him to give that extra umph of effort.
Playing for the Angels didn’t magically help his numbers. They were in the hunt when he was acquired. So playing near home didn’t seem to help, just the opposite.
Look what they did with Noah Syndergaard and Lance Lynn.
Better than spending $55 trillion on Scherzer
Two lousy pitchers for less than the price of one. Genius!
Reynaldo disapproves
“It’s not sticky anymore”
The White Sox should’ve brought him back for one year + option. They’ll probably suck again but they’re still gonna need pitching. Could potentially trade him again depending on how the season goes. Shouldn’t cost very much.
We’ve all seen this dude pitch really well, but last year he was getting beat up pretty good. Which one shows up this year?
@Brian. I’d be happy if Stanton is DFA tomorrow
What does that accomplish as their offense needs help? At least give him until ST where he’ll be behind the rest of players bc that what he does. He then hits five homeruns in the last two weeks of ST and that keeps him rostered until the ASB.
Severino just got 1 year 13 million with atrocious numbers in 2023, I think Giolito is probably going to have to take a one-year prove it deal similar to Severino.
Acoss13, You’re definitely right on the 1 year deal thing. It makes sense on both sides. I dunno why MLBTR could write anything other. This is an easy one.
Yeah some guys are 1 year deal guys. Giolito, Flaherty Montas all should get 1 year with perhaps an option.
I think they’ll all gamble on themselves and decline a player option year with a team buyout to receive more guaranteed pay and attainable incentives.
All an elaborate attempt to lure Max Fried next year
we all know he’s leaving for Cali next year…good luck, just don’t give us crocodile tears like Freddie smh
braveshomer: Glad to find someone to finally say it. I expected Braves fans to boo him out of the stadium when he returned as a Dodger. Cheering him on until he had to take a tissue out of his cuff to wipe those phony baloney tears was a mystery to me.
It wasn’t crocodile tears the guy (Freddie) was with the braves for 11 years and won a world series And wanted to stay with the Braves but he wanted the Braves to bend over backwards for him and court him and AA had the number he was willing to go to and when he saw Freddie was stalling around and not going to sign AA pivoted and made the Olson trade.
So the only person to blame for Freddie not being. A Grave is Freddie and with the state income tax of California he would have done better taking what the Rays offered.
Your right. No income tax in the state of Florida.
Id like giolito as a 3-4 on my staff. His finish was awful last year, but before the trade he was very solid, and had strong years 2019-21. If i was a team w a strong pitching coach / staff, hes as good an upside play as any.
Who aren’t they interested in?
I haven’t been linked to them yet. I did stop pitching when I was 15 but I’m more than willing to come in on a 1-year $5 million prove-it deal.
Well, at least 50M of that money is going to Ohtani, so…
Shouldn’t he sign with the Braves to be with his buddy Lopez?
harambe: I don’t know if they were buddies but they were teammates for a few years. I wouldn’t mind seeing Gio sign with the Braves. Maybe they’ll trade for Cease, too. Then they’ll have all three buddies, or teammates, together again.
Gio is friends with Fried. They were in the same HS rotation at Westlake, along with Jack Flaherty. Their manager in HS was White Sox pitching coach Ethan Katz. I’d like to see all three on ATL.
Lopez and Giolito signed with the Nationals within a month of each other, went to the White Sox in the same trade, went to the Angels in the same trade and then were both claimed by the Guardians on the same day. So they are basically a package deal at this point.
Giolito on the Braves seems like the perfect place for a bounceback year.
Whenever you see the Dodgers are interested in anyone besides elite players you should assume their agent put that out there.
And as we approach the Winter Meetings let the spin games begin
What about Trevor Bauer? Is he available? He had a pretty good punch out ratio.
Just make sure you protect your tailpipe.
Persona non gratis
Seems like a good fit.
Dodgers should consider Bauer and Urias again. That was a good 1-2 punch.
Someone is poised to overpay Giolito.
Someone who thinks they can turn around Gio will sign him. We will see if the turn around actually happens after that. Otherwise, he’s another formerly good pitcher on the scrap heap.
I can’t see more than a one year deal either.
Both sides would be motivated for one.
If he pitches like he did last year, a team would not want him the next year. If he pitches like he did 2 seasons ago, you dont want him paid very much, as he was well below average.
He may be good to take a risk on, but not two years. Imo. Maybe they are thinking of a 1 yr, with a high team option for the second.