Carlyle Group founder David Rubenstein is in talks to acquire the Baltimore Orioles, according to a report from Gillian Tan of Bloomberg. The O’s are currently owned by the Angelos family.
It’s unclear at this point what stage the talks are at or if any kind of deal is close at this time. It also doesn’t seem like Rubenstein is the only person pursuing the club, as the report states that he is “among suitors pursuing a transaction.” Whether the Angelos family has pursued this or have merely been approached by prospective buyers isn’t clear, but there has been plenty of uncertainty in recent years about the future of the franchise.
Peter Angelos, now 94, was the principal investor of a group that purchased the franchise in 1993. After he collapsed in 2017 due to the failure of his aortic valve, larger roles were taken up by his wife Georgia and sons John and Lou. In June of 2022, reports emerged of infighting between the family about control of the club, with MLB approving John as the club’s “control person” in 2020. Multiple lawsuits were filed and the reporting of the legal battle revealed that Georgia had hired Goldman Sachs to look into a possible sale of the club. In February of this year, it was reported that the family members had reached an agreement to drop their lawsuits against each other. “I would say that there’s not a plan to change the principal ownership or the managing partnership and there would be no reason to,” John said on the matter in February.
Amid all of the drama over the ownership situation, there has also been an ongoing situation regarding Oriole Park at Camden Yards. The club’s lease on the facility runs through 2023. They had an opportunity to extend that for five years but chose in February not to do so. The hope was that they could work out a longer deal that would allow them to take advantage of a new Maryland law and borrow $600MM for stadium upgrades. Both John and Maryland Governor Wes Moore have made public statements expressing optimism about getting a new deal done.
In August it was reported that John was trying to leverage the stadium negotiations into acquiring public land. He reportedly envisioned developing a mixed-use area with commercial and retail spaces, emulating to The Battery and Truist Park where the Braves play in Georgia.
In September, John and Gov. Moore announced a new 30-year lease between the club and the state, though this was actually misleading. Reporting from the next day revealed that they had merely signed a memorandum of understanding, which was legally non-binding. The lease is still set to expire on December 31 and recent reporting has suggested the two sides may have to sign a short-term extension of a year or perhaps even go month-to-month, per Hayes Gardner of The Baltimore Sun, while working out a longer deal.
In addition to all of that, the club has made almost no long-term investments in any players. The O’s haven’t signed a free agent to a multi-year deal since March of 2018, with was Alex Cobb’s four-year deal. Since then, the only contracts longer than one year the club has given out have been two-year extensions to John Means and Félix Bautista, both players that were already under club control and rehabbing from Tommy John surgery. For much of that time, the club was in rebuilding mode. But even as they have returned to contention in the last two years, including winning the AL East with 101 wins in 2023, they have yet to make any kind of commitment to anything down the road.
Rubenstein, 74, is the co-founder and co-chairman of the Carlyle Group, a private equity company. He was born in Baltimore and Bloomberg estimates his net worth as $4.6 billion, though Forbes comes in below that at $3.6 billion. Forbes also currently values the Orioles franchise at $1.713 billion, about 10 times more than the $173MM price point when it was purchased in 1993.
To this point, it’s unclear if Rubenstein actually has a chance of acquiring the club or if he would approach any of the aforementioned issues differently. But if he were able to seal the deal and change the way the club operates, that would obviously be a franchise-altering development. It could also have ripple effects outside the O’s since they have an ongoing dispute with the Nationals over MASN and rights fees dating back to the Nats moving from Montreal to Washington in 2005. The Lerner family has been trying to sell the Nats in recent years but that MASN dispute has reportedly been a significant obstacle in doing so.
Tacoshells
😮
iverbure
Hopefully he’s one of those owners that comes in and slashes payroll, that way the orioles can stay good by never signing a free agent to mega bucks.
scottbour
He can slash the current payroll. They are paying anybody while John Angelos has been in charge.
Blue Baron
@scottbour: Huh? That doesn’t come close to making sense.
Mikeyman
I think the word “not” is missing in scottbour reply.
99CaptainJudge99
I guess he’s no Stevie Cohen?
RedFraggle
Slash payroll to what? They barely have anything on the book as is.
iverbure
He could probably trade a prospect with Chris Davis money to get that bad contract off the books.
OIC2021
If he buys them, he will move the Orioles to Cleveland and the Guardians will move to Indianapolis.
angryyankeesfan1
For a second I thought the Orioles got David Robertson, then I thought David Robertson got the Orioles
FullMontilla
that’s one way to get a job – sounds like a bad movie plot
lowtalker1
Major league 2?
RShore05
“Shut up Dorn!”
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Should’ve bought them when they were losing, economics 101
Chuck from Uniontown
Now that would be a novel approach to an Ohtani deal. How about you just own the team now?
Jesse Chavez enthusiast
Man beat me to it, I thought the article said “David Robertson reportedly in talks to acquire Baltimore Orioles.” Thinking the Orioles were talking to Robertson and close to a signing but the Author had a dyslexic moment lol
luclusciano
Ha! I read the same thing
RedFraggle
I had the same issue!
Fraham_
Is he richer
RedFraggle
~4.5 Bill
Fever Pitch Guy
Fraham – Who cares if he’s richer, the more important thing is he’s NOT an Angelos.
RunDMC
He’s also a native of Baltimore, which means more than likely he’s not interested in moving the team. Thank goodness.
Ra
MLB is not going to allow any owner to move the Orioles from Baltimore.
CleaverGreene
Ha! on second thought Ha Ha!
enricopallazzo
Stan Kroenke and John Fisher (probably many others) should give pause for that thought.
the voice inside my head
Just like MLB didn’t let anyone move the team from Milwaukee (original Brewers, 1901 ) or St Louis (Browns, 1953), right?
While there have been a number of noteworthy Hall-of-Famers that have graced the Orioles roster, there is nothing keeping MLB’s board of governors from eventually approving relocation if a new owner were to demonstrate no viable path forward in Baltimore. The reality is that Camden Yards is an aging facility that needs upgrades, but is hardly the rotting dump that the Oakland Coliseum is.
Whomever eventually purchases the franchise does so with due diligence and a clear idea of how to maximize their investments. Blind allegiance to a city doesn’t usually align with those.
Ra
Firstly, MLB does not act like NFL when it comes to team movement. Surely you should know this.
Secondly, until MLB expands by two franchises to new markets AND Oakland’s future is finalized, no other team will be allowed to move to a new market. No exceptions, full stop.
Ra
You clearly do not understand how MLB ownership runs itself regarding franchise movement. And you expose an ignorance of baseball’s history with regards to franchise movement. Besides MLB conspiring to move the Expos, tell us about all the other franchise moves in the past half-century.
Not only would MLB owners reject a new owner moving the franchise any time on the foreseeable future, you are clearly unaware of the $600BN current commitment from the State to OPACY upgrades. In addition, the stadium itself is in fabulous condition. The upgrades will like be on a new jumbotron (unnecessary) and opening the concourse so fans can see the game while buying crabcakes.
Ra
I will rephrase: MLB is not going to allow any team to relocate until they expand by two franchises, with the exception of the A’s.
Ra
The Orioles are an exceptionally profitable franchis so an owner falsely claiming, “no viable path forward in Baltimore” would be laughed out of the room.
Sure, there was a flurry of franchise movement 60-70 years ago – mostly to the West coast. Before owners said we’ll all make money through expansion instead of allowing individual owners to reap all the rewards. But the Orioles moving to NY or Brewers to St Louis was not allowed by MLB … because MLB didn’t exist.
Also, the subject should be “Whoever.” I understand trying to be fancy in writing but it defeats the purpose when it is grammatically incorrect “Whomever” is an object, not a subject. All the best.
Melchez17
Baltimore Colts say hold my beer
Melchez17
Except the A’s… And probably the Rays… And Marlins .. and….
scottbour
MLB will not approve an Orioles move anywhere as long as they play at Camden Yards. It’s not rocket science it’s always about the money.
comish4lif
Doesn’t that $600 million expire/disappear at the end of the calendar year? And of I’m not mistaken, the Camden Yards lease with the Stadium Authority expires on 12/31.
This one belongs to the Reds
Anyone who thinks MLB will expand under the current fouled up system is deluding themselves.
That includes the large market owners chief apologist in the commissioners office.
RunDMC
@Ra — Manfred has job security because he works for the owner’s first — and if there’s an owner that sees them as more profitable somewhere else, esp a place that Manfred desires to see a new team, then I don’t doubt he’d bat an eye.
RunDMC
*I don’t doubt he’d move them without batting an eye.
Sorry, early AM posts before coffee.
O'sSayCanYouSee
It’s also worth noting that the minority owners of the Orioles are also Maryland blue bloods.
The Angelos family have made multiple efforts to assure the Orioles stay in Baltimore over the decades, well past their ownership.
It should never be forgotten how badly Baltimore felt loosing the Colts. No Marylander owned sports team will ever forget. It was, and remains, as hard a moment in time for the city as there is in living memory.
Ra
Are you so dense that you don’t know the Orioles are not an NFL team?
Ra
Probably not the Rays since they are building a new stadium. But again, no franchise moves will be considered because they would take away two prime cities for expansion. Read up on the subject.
Ra
Manfred is not the decision maker. You seem not to understand how MLB works.
Ra
Why would baseball not expand? It is in their plans.
Ra
The lease will be signed, guaranteed. If there is one thing more guaranteed than the sun rising, it is that John Angelos wants to pocket some of that largesse.
orangeoctober
I believe he’s worth about twice as much as the Angelos family, and would be something like the 4th or 5th wealthiest MLB owner if he did indeed purchase the team. He’s also from Baltimore and went to Baltimore City College.
AL B DAMNED
WHO DAT?
DeferredFan
Head of the Carlyle group. davidrubenstein.com/about-david/
ziener
Gentleman and scholar!
I.M. Insane
Rick or Kitty?
RedFraggle
Rich Man
LordD99
Basically, the Illuminati.
Goin' to Sheetz
Oh, please, let this happen. A lease and extension for Henderson and Holliday might happen under a new owner.
TheMan 3
Research “ The Carlyle Group “
It may surprise you of what they do ti make money
Candlestoked
Thanks, TheMan! I was looking for something to do!
Goin' to Sheetz
All billionaires have skeletons in their closet, find me an owner that isn’t morally dubious.
Paleobros
Weapons, as usual, and buying Supreme, among other things.
Bright Side
Do you know how big that family is? Four large families rolled up into one mega family, plus one outcast.
RobM
I’m not suggesting anything, but if Rubenstein called up Cohen and told him to send a specific player to the Orioles, Cohen would do it if he didh’t want to wake up the next day penniless. Rubenstein has already told the Angelos family they are selling their team to him, and he’s also told every owner they will approve the deal. They have all responded: Yes, sir. It’s done. Not that I’m suggesting anything.
nicklepickers
I do feel like new owners tend to spend, wanting to come in strong with a big imprint… It needs to happen soon for it to matter this winter, though.
Gwynning
Wouldn’t happen that quickly. Not trying to rain on any parades, just saying new ownership must be voted on, so on and so forth.
acoss13
Gwyning is right, Lord Manfred has to meet with the potential buyer, run it through all 29 team owners and then vote on the new owners coming in. MLB bureaucracy moves as slow as government does.
IronBallsMcGinty
I wouldn’t expect any major movement this off season. I would believe a new owner would look at 2024 as an evaluation year at least if they’re taking ownership at this point in the off season.
But hey, maybe not.
rememberthecoop
Of course they might look at what Cohen did and say I’m not gonna spend all that money to finish with a losing record!
paosfan
Sounded like Boras was approached but both may not be open to it…
Unclemike1525
Just goes to show, If you want to sell something raise it’s value. Angelos has been trying to sell for years. Now that they’re good again people are dropping out of the sky. Anybody know anything about the guy though? I hope it’s a good thing.
nicklepickers
He’s a very active philanthropist, especially in the DC/MD area. Baltimore native.
RedFraggle
He wants to give back to O’s Fans
DodgerBlue23
No
njbirdsfan
Can we please stop using the words billionaire and philanthropy in the same sentence? It’s the perfect oxymoron.
These guys are “generous” in the sense that yes, they’re giving away money they obtained through unethical if not illegal means (hence how you get billions in the first place) and are doing it as a tax dodge that makes it seem they care about humanity when in fact it’s buying good PR and allow them to control what recipients are worthy and which are not, with zero oversight.
Ra
Thank you, NJ.
btw: those “charities” the uber-rich donate to almost always are run by a cadre of highly-paid C-level executives who just happen to be the spouses or children of business associates.
CleaverGreene
Or in Trump’s case….his own kids.
Silas
Had a feeling TDS would show up in this article about baseball. It always finds a way. Geesh
HankAaronDidGreenies
You enjoy using that acronym a lot. Sure you don’t have some form of projection obsession going on?
Silas
I prefer the MUTE acronym.
Catuli Carl
Idk about him specifically but the Carlyle Group owns a ton of companies: carlyle.com/portfolio
It will probably be an improvement from the current situation, but they’re definitely in it to make money so it’s not going to be like a Cohen situation where they spend like crazy.
DeferredFan
I dunno about that Rubenstein is a huge baseball fan. he’s not going to want to put out a loser.
Bookbook
Cohen is an investment guy who made billions, very much the same as the Carlyle group
Catuli Carl
I know Cohen made his money investing, but he didn’t buy the Mets solely as an investment per se. Usually ownership groups who own sports teams are very frugal and have fine margins. He’s spending like no other.
Initially I thought it was the Carlyle group that was interested in the O’s but it looks like it’s just Rubenstein himself which is better for O’s fans.
Catuli Carl
Yeah looks like he is a Baltimore native though so maybe it is more of a passion project than an investment.
Inside Out
This would be great for the future of the Orioles. Any time you can can get rid of any connection to the Angelos family you’ve won.
drewnats33
This has a lot of ramifications. Rubenstein has been aligned with Ted Leonsis’ effort to buy the Nationals.
It could mean the Lerners are not close to selling the Nats. On the other hand, Rubenstein and Leonsis are friends and respected members of Washington’s business and philanthropic community.
If anyone can resolve the MASN dispute, maybe Rubenstein and Leonsis can.
DodgerBlue23
drewnats, you have NO idea what you are talking about…Wait till people start doing their own research…
Goin' to Sheetz
That would be great. Speaking for myself, the animosity between the Nats and Os is purely between the owners. Resolve that and we can all happily move on.
O'sSayCanYouSee
@ Goin’ to Sheetz — I usually like what you have to say, but gotta say, on this you may not have it right.
MASN is compensation for loosing the DC metro area viewership.
Only Virginians and people under 20years old should be Expos fans.
Goin' to Sheetz
I’m not a Nats fan, but I don’t begrudge them. Honestly the only ones I know are from Fairfax and D.C.
YankeesBleacherCreature
I know his daughter and SIL and met his ex-wife a few times. He’s not as wealthy as other owners but he does have a tremendous amount of influence. He’ll buy the O’s if he really wants it. (Lol. This news is too funny to me.)
osfandan
He would be the 4th wealthiest owner in baseball.
dshires4
If it falls through please call Seattle…
good vibes only
For real
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Someone mentioned something about this at MASN and I was going to tell him it was a ‘Fake Rumor’ because MLB Tr would have it, if it is for real!!!
If it’s whispered…..well, it’s here so he was not full of soup!!!!
nicklepickers
Reports say it wouldn’t happen until early next year at the earliest. Any speculation on what it might mean for this offseason spending? The best would be for Angelos to sign a big contract for Ohtani, knowing he won’t be around the pay the bill. But mostly I hope it doesn’t lead to front office paralysis while they wait for resolution.
CardsFan57
The smartest thing is not doing anything you can’t live with just in case the deal falls through.
Scot
Everyone in Seattle wishing we would get news like this.
aragon
Hope Scrooge buys the Mariners.
Scot
He already owns them.
Buzzz Killington
So would they be publicly traded like the Braves?
Brian 38
@Buzz – No. Rubenstein the individual is interested in buying. I don’t think MLB would allow Carlyle (asset managers) to own a team.
O'sSayCanYouSee
Orioles were a publicly owned franchise until the 80’s when the owner who wanted to sell to Angelos bought back all the shares, so he could sell to Angelos.
gr81t2
Yes please Not idea who he is, but he’s from Baltimore and named angelos
jbryant0693
Will he have to pay for the remainder of Chris Davis’ contract?
Ra
Do you seriously not understand how the world works?
Actually, I have read your other comments so clearly you have no idea.
Optimistic M's Guy
Why the hell can’t someone with money buy my Mariners????
Old York
Didn’t Nintendo own you guys for a while? What happened there?
Optimistic M's Guy
Yep they did. The main owner of the Nintendo group never even attended a game. Sold it like 8 years ago to a group of 16 investors. 2 main guys and 14 2-3 percenters. They made a bad deal with Comcast on root sports broadcasting rights and are now saying we are broke and rolling out a 120 payroll maybe going to 140. We should be a 180 mil team but the group is cheap and all about profit margins. So we are basically screwed trying to compete with Texas and Houston with 100 mil less to spend. It’s a joke and beyond frustrating.
Old York
@Optimistic M’s Guy
Yeah, I feel bad for the M’s. They had it going in late 90s and early 2000s and it all just fell apart. Maybe Seattle needs to look at the Rays system and focus on investing in player development instead of the big payroll? Sure, they haven’t won the WS but they’ve been there twice and are often in the playoffs or close to it.
Optimistic M's Guy
That’s the problem tho. We aren’t a small market team. We are an upper mid level team that had 2.7 mil fans attend last season. A top 10 attendance team that should have loads of money to spend
IHLgulls
Why, you don’t seem optimistic at all you big phony!
Optimistic M's Guy
I was until I found out we have no payroll this year lol
Paleobros
Nintendo was playing too many games with them
THEY LIVE!!!
Be careful what you wish for. The CCP might buy them and move them to Vancouver.
DanUgglasRing
Great news for the O’s, let’s make it happen
smirkman
The dissolution of MASN, allowing the Nats to own their own TV rights and the removal of their blackouts thusly allowing each to appear locally on MLB.TV should be a requirement of approval.
C Yards Jeff
MLB has a mess on their hands and they know it. And their fingerprints are all over it.
Maybe they can approach a Jeff Bezos wealth type. They give him the league’s blessing to buy both teams. He then looks in the mirror and negotiates with himself dissolving the existing TV deal then launches a separate TV deal for both. Then per the arrangement with MLB, he sells one or both as quickly as he bought them.
Ra
That wasn’t the deal MLB made. So, no…
920kodiak
Amen, brother.
comish4lif
I cannot imagine that MLB would allow the Orioles sale without address the MASN issues. And by “address” I mean dissolve..
O'sSayCanYouSee
As long as the Expos are in DC, the MASN deal stays. It’s only fair.
For Love of the Game
Why would the family sell the Orioles at this time??? They are finally winning and Peter Angelos isn’t far from death. The family would avoid a lot of taxes by waiting until he dies. The team will still be good and marketable at that time. But, then again, they are the Orioles and screwing the pooch isn’t a foreign concept to them.
rwautlet
How do they avoid taxes?
For Love of the Game
There would be a capital gain on the sale of the team. Upon someone’s death, the cost basis of assets is marked up to the fair value as of the date of death. This erases any tax impact of increases in value during the owners lifetime.
JonesyMcGee
Thank you for mentioning this, I was going to if no one else had. This was brought up several times from various sources during the intra-family lawsuits. The value of the team is so much higher now than the purchase price. From this article: “Forbes also currently values the Orioles franchise at $1.713 billion, about 10 times more than the $173MM price point when it was purchased in 1993.” Using these numbers, if the Angelos family sells now, they pay taxes on the gain from $173M to $1.713B. But if Peter Angelos dies today, the ‘cost’ of the team for tax gain purposes effectively becomes $1.713B (in a very simplistic analysis.)
Based on the way John Angelos has been talking and acting for the past year or so, I’d be amazed if he sells the team anytime soon. He sees it as just his own private cash cow, Pittsburgh Pirates style. I could see him selling a minority stake to Rubenstein though.
From a Baltimore Sun article last year: “[John] Angelos, 55, prefers to sell a piece of the Orioles while continuing to retain his family’s majority control, two people told The Baltimore Sun in interviews.”
Georgia Angelos, Peter’s wife, reportedly believed it would be Peter’s wish that she sell the team upon his death: “When Georgia Angelos responded with her own legal filing, those documents said her husband indicated that the team “should be sold on his death so Georgia could enjoy the great wealth they had amassed together.” And her attorneys indicated she was preparing to do so, writing she “had retained Goldman Sachs and Jones Day to provide investment banking and legal services in connection with the sale of the Orioles.”
As an aside.. this is the first time I’ve seen his health problems specified. Most articles just refer to him as ‘incapacitated due to illness’.
Old York
And hopefully he moves them to New York and calls them the Highlanders.
This one belongs to the Reds
Some dude named MacLeod approves.
DodgerBlue23
Dennis Weaver also approves!
Silas
Dennis Weaver and Hugh Hefner once got into a major brawl at Laguardia Airport. Mick Jagger happened to be at the same gate arriving and yelled “Hey, Hugh!, Get off a McCloud!”
O'sSayCanYouSee
I think ‘Yankees’ might be an even better name for the former Orioles team.
Old York
@O’sSayCanYouSee
Sure, but there’s already a Yankee team there. They have been struggling for many decades now so I can see their eventual collapse in a few years where they have to move to Mexico or Japan. Then this Baltimore team can change the name to the Yankees.
Ra
The Orioles are one of the most profitable teams in baseball currently. You seem confused or brainwashed.
dbdmack
As a sox fan, it will be a good move for the fans of Baltimore. Great fan base that has stuck through some very bad years of ownership.
920kodiak
Orioles fans are loyal fans.
Chicks dig bunting
Well I’ve been there I had friends that lived there they left that city so do any of guys know what the crime rate is there just wondering they told me iam like that’s worse than chitcago and I know Chicago
Ra
Considering the highest per capita murder rates are in states like Alabama and Mississippi, you should be more worried about visiting red states.
Baltimore city has a tiny footprint, which is why the per capita rate is high while Baltimore metro is not even in the Top 50 nationally, behind places like South Bend, IN. At that, there are a few sections that would be considered dangerous while the majority of the city is safe and nice.
Periods are your friend. Feel free to use them for clarity.
Liberalsteve
Yep.. And those cities in Alabama and Mississippi are also red cities with mostly white people
paosfan
Fake news. Most Democrat run cities ie Chicago are higher
Ra
Learn English.
Ra
The highest murder rates are in Republicnnt run states.
rayw
In democrat run cities. Go ahead and look it up.
UGA_Steve
Funny that just a bit of research yields the top 5 CITIES .. since a city is what we are talking about .. in per capita homicide rates:
Memphis, Tenn.
New Orleans, La.
Baltimore, Md.
St. Louis, Mo.
Detroit, Mich.
Another report using stats from 2019 shows that per capita, Baltimore has the second highest murder rate of all US cities over 100k population, right behind St. Loius, Missouri.
Yes, Alabama and Mississippi are high on the ‘STATE’ per capita murder list, but do a little bit of digging into what is driving those numbers and report back, unless you are afraid it doesn’t back your political agenda (hint – it doesn’t)..
You can keep spilling lies and nonsense and hope no one actually researches it, but you will get called out.
Ra
You need reading comprehension classes. I wrote, “Baltimore metro is not even in the Top 50 nationally.” So you are a liar? Or just stupid? Which one is it?
Your community college may offer remedial English classes. That might help you.
micg
RaRaRa Stop embarrassing yourself. Look up the 15 US Cities with Highest Murder Rate 2023. Baltimore is #2.
Also could you name those “red” cities in Alabama and Mississippi with the “mostly white” population?
Ra
You really are dimwitted. You don’t understand the definition of metropolitan area, clearly. Or you are just lying.
Ra
Per your second paragraph, mic, you’ll need to ask the person who wrote about it.
micg
Right. Now go look at the rates by city since both of those STATES combined have a population less than New York CITY. There are more murders each year in several large northern cities then there are in each of those states.
Ra
Guess you don’t understand the meaning of “per capita.” Of course, I am not surprised you don’t understand the meaning.
JoeBrady
Considering the highest per capita murder rates are in states like Alabama and Mississippi, you should be more worried about visiting red states.
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Crime is a local issue, not a state issue. Just did some quick research, and StL had 366 murders n 2022, while Missouri had 623. Meaning the the StL murders per 100,000 is 122 while the rest of the state is 4.4.
This was just a quick Google, but if you have stats that suggest otherwise, let me know.
Let’s Go O’s
If you’ve never been you should shut the f up. The city is like any other city in America in that there’s good and bad parts. The issue with Baltimore is that the bad parts are really bad. However, the stadium area is safe and so is the closest party neighborhood Fed Hill. Stay out of west Baltimore though
micg
Been there!
Born there!
Raised there!
Great city in a great state that greedy race baiting politicians have greatly damaged!
Wish I could afford to move back to Canton. LOL
osfandan
Grew up in Baltimore, 15 mins from Camden Yards. Starting around age 12 my parents would drop me at the stadium after school and I’d hang with other pre teens all afternoon getting autos. Never once felt scared. None of us had knives or guns, nor our parents. I just get tired of hearing this cr@p. What does it have to do with a new owner anyway?? Being that he was also born here, I’m pretty sure he’s aware of the level of crime in the city.
AL B DAMNED
That didn’t take long! From US Congress to MLB Ownership! He is Really George Santos!, OR, is it the other way around!
Ra
Rubenstein was never in Congress. Who are you talking about?
Bobcastelliniscat
Mr. Rubenstein can I interest you in the Cincinnati Reds instead?
WonderBoy
Will need partners…only worth $3.6bn, not using half of net worth to buy team.
Asfan0780
Some one step up and buy the A’s from John fisher please
RandorBierd
Hopefully he can spearhead the grain pier development and the dredging of the canal as well.
rodrda01
This apparently went over a lot of heads but was well done
RandorBierd
Cheers.
theathlete
Please!!! John Angelos can’t get out of his own way. Anytime there is good Orioles news, or Oriole fans are feeling good about the future, John Angelo’s opens his mouth and completely ruins it, and embarrasses the organization.
ASapsFables
This could be great news for Orioles fans. David Rubenstein is a self-made, philanthropic local businessman worth an estimated 3.6 billion. He also received his law degree at the University of Chicago. Could he be persuaded to buy the White Sox instead? :-)⚾️
kellin
Wow. From a 94 year old to a 74 year old. How’s that gonna work, considering someone younger bought the Padres and then passed away.
THEY LIVE!!!
74 is the new 64. Adrenachrome makes them young again.
ASapsFables
So does “Spice” which also has the benefit of giving you some pretty cool blue eyes.
THEY LIVE!!!
I was born with blue eyes…
ASapsFables
They’ll be even bluer with “Spice”. You’ll have the deep blue “Eyes of Ibad”.
“Spice” might also get thrown out of Vegas if you overplay your bets.
ASapsFables
If you’re suffering from ageism you’ll likely have to pass on our next Presidential election. Just saying…
Lonniemac
As a Yankees fan I hope the Angelos family doesn’t sell.
Fred Lingenfelser
As an Orioles fan, this is amazing news.
I would love for the team to have an owner who wants to chase a pennant instead of ambulances.
Bohs and Os
Sell the team
jhomeslice
Anybody who is an Orioles fan who is not excited about this possibility is insane. Would be perfect timing, the only thing that can get in the way of an amazing multi year period for the O’s is a cheap owner. Even that might not stop the great team they’ve built with a great farm system to go with it. This team has best future in MLB if they play their cards right. There is little doubt Rubenstein would be better than the current regime and could make this team an absolute beast. Too late for this winter of free agency since this will obviously take plenty of time, but still.
Ra
Would an Orioles fan be insane not to be excited if it meant losing Elias? Imo Angelos+Elias > Rubenstein-Elias
jhomeslice
Why would anybody buying this team want to replace one of the best GM”s? That seems highly unlikely. I think you are borrowing trouble there and it would be a straight upgrade to the owner and you’d get much more help via the free agent market than you are likely to get at the moment.
Ra
It is unknown what any new owner would do. It is also unknown if Elias would want to stay. You and I may agree that a new owner should do anything they can to retain Elias. I provided a scenario where I believe the “sane” Orioles fan would not prefer a new owner.
You do realize that Rubenstein made his fortune extracting value from businesses, not building them up. I don’t think any of us can say for sure that his group would invest more in the on-field product. Or for that matter , I don’t think any of us can venture any guesses of what the future would look like with Rubenstein as principal owner.
Just Rob
That’s a very important question. Elias has seemingly operated in a very owner hands-off environment, “only” limited by his player budget. And, in fairness, the O’s have made significant economic investments in a Dominican Academy and Analytics over the past several years (which don’t get the media coverage of an Ohatani / Yammmamaoto signing, but still cost significant dollars).
I’d love the see the payroll increased if it meant value added long term signings (Gunnar, Rautschman, etc) and I don’t think Angelo’s will do those. However, I appreciate that he has given Elias the freedom to build a talent pipeline. If a new owner comes in and steps on Elias’s toes, the O’s may end up with more Ubaldo-type signings and lose Mr. Elias.
toycannon
please buy the Mariners instead.
oscar gamble
O’s fans should hope the sale goes through.
baked mcbride
I am one and I wholeheartedly agree, although if this is the case I gotta give the Angelos kid credit for hiring wonderful baseball men like Elias and Mejdal and trusting in them to get it right. Which they did. Which isn’t always the case with rebuilds.
luclusciano
This possibility is endless – very much like Steve Cohen and the Mets, but he would have a young core with a 100 win season to go off of. Baltimore would be scary
SupremeZeus
Angelos isn’t selling the O’s during his lifetime. The tax hit would be in the hundreds of millions of $ if he sells during his lifetime.
Cincyfan85
Who cares? If you’re dead it won’t matter lol. I would never sell a baseball team though. In fact, I wish I was rich just so I could own a team lol.
ba$eba||F@n21
It’s in a trust, his heirs care, it impacts them. The family would likely need to liquidate assets to pay capital gains if sold while Peter is alive. Once he’s gone though, that liability goes down significantly, so yes it very much matters, especially to a family who has a reputation such as the one they carry.
terry g
Interesting news. So many team owners are cheap according to the local fan base as if spending money will insure a championship. Say hello to the Dodgers, Padres, Yankees, Phillies and Met’s.
Killer of Ignorance
Nothing, I repeat, NOTHING insures a championship. Adding quality players can improve your regular season performance, perhaps gaining a better seed in the playoffs, which might help, but once the playoffs and eventually the World Series gets underway, it takes a great team, and especially great pitching, plus a lot of good luck along the way. And peaking at the right time, in other words being hot, at the top of your game, can be a factor as well. But nothing guarantees a World Series win.
Manfred’s playing with the balls
The teams you listed are very successful and some have won championships in recent history. I think you’re argument hurts your case
BrianStrowman9
Let’s go!
scruffmcgruff
If he is more willing to be proactive with free agents and is more interested in leaving baseball decisions to the high quality baseball minds that we currently have, I’m all for it. The Angelos family has been admittedly notorious for not reinvesting money into the team, though the few times they have, they’ve been burned pretty badly i.e. Albert Belle, Chris Davis. As an O’s fan I would be way more optimistic with a change in ownership than having the Angelos family still there, even though they made a very wise decision bringing in Elias and Mejdal.
prov356
I’ve been to 9 ballparks. Camden is by far my favorite. Hopefully they get a lease done so the Os don’t move (unless they move to Nashville).
DodgerBlue23
You’ve just never experienced a game @ The Polo Grounds yet!
prov356
Nope. Where’s the polo grounds?
Convectess
Do you own a DeLorean with a flux capacitor?
HankAaronDidGreenies
His daughter helped Trump get elected. Yikes
Cincyfan85
Hopefully she helps bring him back so I can afford to go to games again.
AmericanRedneck
Sad. We don’t often see TDS expressed in these baseball threads, yet here you are. You probably also believe inflation is at a mere 3% and dementia is a good leadership quality too, eh? Just know, you’re the minority when it comes to your “YIKES” assertion. Have a glorious day!
HankAaronDidGreenies
Often the people who use the acronym “TDS” have an obsession themselves over a demented narcissist who won’t even admit he lost a fair election. They make their entire personality and political identity off the word of a multi time failed businessman.
Also, inflation isn’t bad. Income disparity is bad. But that’s an entirely separate conversation that would require you to have an education better than an Alabama community college.
Edp007
I’ve noticed a couple of anti semitic comments here alluding to Mr Rubenstein’s heritage. These comments should not be tolerated.
Manfred’s playing with the balls
Alluding to someone’s heritage shouldn’t be tolerated? That sounds pretty draconian. I thought the goal was to censor intolerant speech not be intolerant to all speech?
Edp007
Well it seems the moderators here also didn’t like your comment.
Take it up with them.
AmericanRedneck
I want to clarify, someone said something you disagree with, and you feel they shouldn’t be allowed to say it because, *checks notes*, you don’t like it? No, that’s typically not how reality and/or life work.
Edp007
Actually there is a line between hate speech and free speech.
Reality is , it does work that way in reality.
Post hate speech , or racist comments they be removed. Take it up with the moderators. Not me.
The dildo of consequences rarely comes lubed.
micg
Sounds great!
Not getting my hopes up. Angelos has a history of screwing things up!
Edp007
As a follow up seems staff has removed the comments. That was a quick reaction. Thank you , good job.
jdgoat
As a fan of a division rival I like the current clown family that owns the team. Don’t sell!
tonyinsingapore
Nice journalism here !
AmericanRedneck
I was at the Orioles versus Yankees game in Baltimore this past July, the game Rizzo struck out five times, before he went on the IL with concussion symptoms.
During that game, Gov. Wes Moore was shown on the screen, as he was in attendance with his young son, and the place ERUPTED in boos when he was announced. Not a single point during that game were the boos as loud as they were when Moore was shown during a commercial break. It was hilarious.
And it was beautiful, as laughter ensued thereafter. The stadium still looks fantastic all these years later, while sadly the city around it continues to rot. Braves had it right, they may be called Atlanta Braves, but they’re more the Alpharetta Braves than the Atlanta Braves now. Maybe the Nottingham or Bel Air, or maybe Annapolis Orioles would certainly get more attendance, especially at night games. No one is building anything worthwhile in Baltimore. Signing a 30 year lease in a rotting city seems counterproductive.
JoeBrady
Interesting that the O’s fans want to get rid of the owner of a 101-win team, so they can replace him with an owner more the likes of the Mets and Padres.
PoisonedPens
Shohei Ohtani is buying the Orioles next week, after his contract announcement.
King Floch
As much as I would like to believe this, John Angelos has no other source of significant income besides the team and no other calling in life besides MLB team “owner” (the attention for which he seems to relish in) since he seemingly did not inherit daddy’s prodigious legal acumen, so I remain somewhat skeptical that he actually wants to sell the team.
O'sSayCanYouSee
@ King Floch — Your right about John, but I’m not sure selling/not selling is up to him. I think Georgia and Louis are going to sell. Also, the things John has been doing seem to hint that he’s trying to get the club to best possible sales price (maybe by command from Ma & bro), as what he has done over the few years has increased the franchises value.
Maybe he’ll find a deal that allows him to retain minority control w/ his shares vs. Georgia and Louis.
I don’t doubt he’s doing his very best to stay in baseball.
martras
You have an ultra wealthy man within a few years of life expectancy motivated to buy a competitive baseball team. My expectations is a run like the Tigers had in the early 2010s under Mike Illitch. Probably pushing payroll well past it’s profitable limits. Sure would be interesting.
Nats ain't what they used to be
Hopefully he has an agreement with Nats about MASN rights before he buys so issue is finally settled.
BaseballisLife
One of the few clients I ever fired. I am not sure he is an improvement over the Angelos.
snowyphile1
One wonders why.
THEY LIVE!!!
hmm
Skankhunt69
Bummer. This means they wont make any big moves this offseason. I was hoping O’s would make a big signing. Hader, Snell or something significant. I guess their biggest move will be signing the worst closer in the playoffs last year.