Guardians first baseman Josh Naylor drew trade interest from the Cubs, Mariners, and Pirates during the Winter Meetings, Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports. There is no indication that the Guards were in serious talks about a deal, and as Hoynes notes, “for an offensively challenged club, it seems strange that they’d consider trading [Naylor]. But…it never hurts to listen.”
The 26-year-old Naylor hit .308/.354/.489 with 17 homers over 495 plate appearances last season, marking his second straight year of quality production. The first baseman has a 124 wRC+ in 993 PA since Opening Day 2022, and this past season saw Naylor develop into more of a well-rounded hitter than just a power bat. Naylor’s average and OBP increased greatly from 2022, and Naylor also cut back on his strikeouts without losing any of his power. While he doesn’t walk much, that approach isn’t unusual for a Cleveland team that prioritizes contact above all.
It seems quite possible that Naylor hasn’t yet reached his ceiling, given that his early-career development was stunted by both the pandemic-shortened 2020 season and then a nasty fractured ankle that cut short his 2021 season and cost him a bit of time at the start of the 2022 campaign. Naylor also missed about a month due to an oblique strain in 2023, and still generated positive numbers despite a very slow start over the season’s first six weeks.
Naylor’s 128 wRC+ actually outpaced Jose Ramirez’s 123 mark for tops among all Guardians regulars, and Josh’s younger brother Bo Naylor also delivered a 124 wRC+ in the smaller sample size of 230 PA. These were among the few highlights in an overall dismal year at the plate for the rest of Cleveland’s roster, as the lack of hitting and multiple injuries in the rotation left the Guardians with a mediocre 76-86 record in Terry Francona’s final season as manager.
As Hoynes noted, moving Naylor would seem counterintuitive for a Guardians team that is seemingly looking to upgrade the lineup. However, as is often the case with the Guards’ moves, there is a financial element at play. Naylor is projected to earn $7.2MM in the second of three arbitration years, and he is eligible to hit free agency after the 2025 campaign. While Ramirez is a notable exception, the Guardians generally doesn’t try to retain star talent unless they’re locked up to extensions earlier in their careers, so Naylor could potentially join a long list of notable Cleveland players who were dealt with at least one year remaining of team control.
Just this offseason, it is widely expected that the Guardians will deal Shane Bieber since the former Cy Young Award winner will be a free agent in the 2024-25 offseason. Cleveland has already moved Cal Quantrill to the Rockies in a salary dump type of trade, and this winter in particular carries extra financial uncertainty for the small-market Guardians since the Diamond Sports Group’s bankruptcy proceedings could see the team lose their TV deal. Since their payroll isn’t expected to go up, that leaves the front office with some tricky decisions to make in figuring out how to improve the roster as a whole.
With this in mind, Naylor becomes a very interesting possible trade chip in an offseason market thin on big bats, particularly in free agency. Any number of teams would certainly have interest in a 26-year-old who might not have hit his offensive peak yet, and a new club would have two years to perhaps ink Naylor to an extension.
Based on what Cleveland usually seeks out in such trades of established talent, the Guardians could try and obtain an MLB-ready who can help the team in 2024, as well as a longer-term prospect or two. Turning to the clubs in Hoynes’ report, the highly-ranked farm systems of the Pirates and Cubs could certainly have the assets to fit what would surely be a big asking price from the Guardians.
Acquiring Naylor would instantly fill the Cubs’ needs at first base, and provide a nice pivot after Chicago missed out on Shohei Ohtani. Cubs GM Carter Hawkins is very familiar with Naylor, as Hawkins previously worked in Cleveland’s front office before heading to Wrigleyville following the 2021 season. As much as Jed Hoyer’s front office has been hesitant about dealing from its stash of young talent, two years of relatively inexpensive control over Naylor is a tempting proposition, and it would allow the Cubs to then devote extra dollars to free agency.
There is some irony in the Pirates looking to land a player from another team looking to cut costs, given Pittsburgh’s long history of low payrolls. However, the Bucs have a clear need at first base, and acquiring Naylor would also be another major sign that the team is preparing to finally return to contention. That push might even come as early as 2024, given the NL Central’s state of flux.
The Mariners are looking for a particular kind of offensive upgrade, as Naylor would fit Seattle’s prioritization of good contact hitters. The M’s have already parted ways with Teoscar Hernandez, Eugenio Suarez, and Jarred Kelenic in their pursuit of more contact, and acquiring Naylor could also give the Mariners cover to trade current first baseman Ty France.
This one belongs to the Reds
Unless they think they are selling high, I can’t see it making sense.
OIC2021
Skenes on his way to Cleveland for Naylor
YourDreamGM
It’s 7m and prospects. Extension or trade. 2 years peak reasonable value.
Goku the Knowledgable One
Pirates already got Seth Beer..
offseason over.
joew
Not happening but if they need a catcher…
dcahen
OIC2021 – you’re dreaming, joking, or just a moron.
Fred Park
Just another yawner while we wait out the hours, days and minutes until spring training.
Nothing to interest us here. Go Mariners!
TheMan 3
Correction
Nothing here to interest you Fred. The Mariners aren’t the only team in the universe
Fred Park
Except that there is no real substance in the article, TheMan 3.
Just idle musings to fill the time.
That’s all I meant. Hey I’ll cheer for your team too.
RobM
The Cubs, Mariners and Pirates expressing interesting in trading for Naylor at the Winter Meetings is substance for a site built specifically around baseball rumors.
Jesse Chavez enthusiast
What do you expect from a rumors site? This is a rumor.
Fred Park
Yeah, RobM, you got me. there.
I was wrong. I mis-read the article the first time.
Unclemike1525
I don’t know about any of that but if I was Naylor I would look at a move to the Pirates as being a step backwards. I think I’d just say KMN. I’d much rather go to the Mariners or Cubs if I had a choice. Not that I think anyone will be able to get him anyway. I know the Cubs and Mariners are pretty tight about what prospects they move, The Pirates haven’t been relevant enough to establish a pattern. Besides, Now that the Ohtani farce is over the Cubs can just get on with signing Bellinger so why would they need Naylor?
Unclemike1525
I think the only way the Cubs would be interested at all is if he can Catch. Was he a C at one time? I know there are a bunch of Naylor brothers and at least one catches Can they all do it? They drafted the whole family I think. I think the Cubs might experiment with Caissie at 1B this year because his path to the Corner Outfield is pretty well blocked at this point. They have to get his bat in there at some point and he can’t play CF but he is athletic enough to play 1st. That’s what I’d do.
drasco036
Bo Naylor is the catcher.
I don’t know if the Guardians, or Ramirez for that matter, would entertain this but I would offer a massive package for Ramirez, Naylor and Bieber headlined by Morel, PCA, Brown and either Caissie or Alcantara. I know it would require some more pieces but that would be my “conversation starter”
hockeyjohn
Both Cleveland and Jose Ramirez would not entertain a trade. Ramirez wanted the no trade clause because he wants to stay in Cleveland. The Guardians have already been the youngest team in MLB the last two seasons. They are not rebuilding.
drasco036
Per your opinion.
Avory
@drascoo36
Amazing how someone who spouts nonsense without any frame of reference to the Cleveland situation thinks actual factual statements are “opinions.” Good grief.
lee cousins
Your right Fred, I don’t pay a lot of attention to Mariners rumors much anymore since there lack of commitment is non inspiring. If they were going to change there ways they would have leap out front, and made some deals all ready. This could very well turn out like last year where they added on late when most of the talent had been taken leaving them to pick over the scrap heap.
TheMan 3
I read about this on another Pirate rumor website, that BC has contacted the Guardians about Naylor.
Question is, what does the Guardians want in return and who would Cherington offer?
holecamels35
When you see a lot of these deals around the league, they should’nt have to give a ton.
fre5hwind
Could get interesting, and since they also kind of want Santana to.
Dumpster Divin Theo
There’s a whole Piratetraderumours.com domain? Cool
YourDreamGM
One of their half dozen top pitching prospects or Jebb. Something other than that.
mlb1225
Two years of control remaining via arbitration, only 26 (turns 27 in late-June), coming off a career best season with the bat, good defense at first base, most promising factor is that most of his underlying numbers were also very good. I wonder if Thomas Harrington would be good enough to headline a deal like that. He was good in his first pro season, and was among the leaders in Stuff+ at A-Ball prior to his promotion to High-A. Definitley could see him on the back-end of some top 100 lists heading into 2024, or at least by mid-2024.
YourDreamGM
I would jump on that if I was Cleveland. Not sure I would trade him for 2 years of a 1b if I was Pittsburgh unless scouts generally thought he was closer to a 5 than a 3. I am on 4 and that’s tradable. 800 ops is nice but can get 700 for under 10m and keep all my prospects. No probably putting him in a Cease package but Naylor I dunno.
Yanks2
The gesture he did towards Gerrit Cole while running around the bases was easily the most cringeworthy thing ever done on a baseball diamond
This one belongs to the Reds
That would most likely be Juan Marichal hitting John Roseboro with a bat, but I am sure there were others more cringeworthy than a gesture as well.
Yanks2
Heath Bell sliding into 1st base during the ASG (2012?)
Dumpster Divin Theo
Or ARod with his bitslap running down the line. Anything to earn some Vtek glove face
whyhayzee
The amazing thing is that Marichal and Roseboro became dear friends. Forever tied to that horrible incident.
Cole? Pffft.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Tho if I were Roseboro I’d be hesitant about accepting that last drink with the fizzies. You know. Long game
IronBallsMcGinty
Naylor is a good hitter, just don’t heckle him. It turns him into a full blown psycho.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Heckle jeckle. Turns to Hyde. And not laid back 70s show Stephen Hyde
Zippy the Pinhead
Not so laid back in prison.
SodoMojo90
His boyfriend lays him back regularly in prison.
jvent
I hope the Cubs trade for him, so they leave Hoskins alone lol, for the Mets to sign to DH/ backup 1b
Curveball1984
My guess is they’re chewing on a potential Naylor/Wisdom platoon at 1B.
drasco036
Why on earth would they want to platoon Naylor.
Naylor has an ops of over .800 against both lefties and righties.
Msfan
I suspect the M’s will be in on pretty much any hitter that’s available. They’ve already missed out on the big guys that went to the Yankees and Dodgers.
ayrbhoy
The M’s FO can roll up their sleeves and get to work now ….cuz they never stood a chance w Soto and Shohei with an owner like that!
You can’t miss out on a player if you don’t make a real and honest effort to land them!
hockeyjohn
I don’t see Cleveland trading Josh Naylor, their second-best offense threat, when they need offense to win a very winnable division in 2024. They would have to be overwhelmed to trade him.
Touch 'em all Joe
Be that as it may, he has over 4 years of service time. Knowing how the cash-strapped Guardians’ FO operates, they surely will listen to offers.
TheMan 3
Naylor only has 2 more years until he’s a free agent and what players are demanding in salaries, the Guardians are better off trading him now while he’s had a decent season rather than waiting just in case he slides backwards next year
its_happening
Maybe trade some prospects for MLB pieces before talking about a winnable division Cleveland can’t win. Would’ve come in-handy dealing Nolan Jones at least 3 years ago, among others, for major league talent.
Avory
Oh yeah, teams were just beating down CLE’s door trying to get Nolan Jones three years ago, when he couldn’t hit LHP, couldn’t play major league capable defense at 3B, and couldn’t stay on the field because of one injury after another. Instead, CLE was forced to wait on him and ended up dealing him for a genuine major league prospect in Juan Brito, not that you’re paying attention, right?
YourDreamGM
Would be stupid not to trade him if a fair return is available.
marinersblue96
IDK if they trade Bieber they may decide to go into full rebuild mode for next year with and eye on either cheap MLB talent or very near MLB ready. Like a one year step back with hopes of contending in 2025.
Avory
@hockeyjohn
People who get caught up in the money and control are totally missing the point (which is usually the case when outside observers judge CLE’s motivations). Manzardo and Naylor are kind of the same player, with a similar lack of versatility. CLE can make do this year as Kyle may not be up until June and DH isn’t taken, but longer term, CLE knows something will have to give. CLE may also be leery of Naylor’s health prognosis (his body weight more than anything) but I agree the club will need to be completely overwhelmed given Josh’s sky-high popularity and the lack of punch in the lineup, not to mention he’s one of the very few proven clutch hitters we have. I doubt it happens, but I doubt we wouldn’t seriously consider it, should the right offer come along.
holecamels35
Would be a very good fit in Pittsburgh. Not sure what they’d have to give up though. He’s a platoon bat but really came on last season.
edwardk64
The question would be whether the Guardians need middle infield prospects. Other than outfielders on the farm who didn’t show much here, what else could they afford
holecamels35
Obviously the Pirates need young pitching as well but they probably don’t need to keep everyone. Wonder if the Guardians think they can fix Priester or Contrares? Someone like Lonnie White Jr who looks to have potential and maybe a bottom 10 prospect?
edwardk64
Given the rate they’re going, Priester may be one of their starters coming out of Bradenton
As for Contreras, what a shame to watch a kid lose confidence as he has. Whether with the Pirates or someone else, hope he regains it.
mlb1225
I’d really hate to lose Lonnie Jr., but I could live with it. There’s some risk because he strikesout a decent amount, but a lot of upside. Above average power, plus-plus speed, plus fielding fielding, good enough arm to play any of the three outfield spots. Cutting down the K’s will be the difference between him being a 4th outfielder at best and a potential 20/20 threat who has Gold Glove potential.
Michael Chaney
He’s not a platoon bat. Look at his splits from last year because he finally figured out how to hit lefties too.
Dumpster Divin Theo
The Pirates and Guardians should just perpetually swap guys to and fro, once a week and twice on Tuesday’s. Short jaunt down 76.
Larry Bernandez 1324IM
Naylor? Barely knew her
Dumpster Divin Theo
That’s what she said
ClevelandSteelEngines
With Manzardo on board, trading Naylor may be worth a second look, but only for preliminary market tests. The clock is ticking, though.
From the Mariners’ perspective, Naylor might be a left-handed bat worth considering. I don’t know about the other teams.
The Natural
As a Cub fan I’d be very happy to see them land Naylor. Cade Horton and Matt Shaw are untouchables, but after that? I’d give a lot for Naylor plus Bieber or Clase.
Chuck from Uniontown
Naylor doesn’t walk a ton, doesn’t strike out much, and also had a BABIP of .326 against a career average of .295. I wouldn’t mind the bucs adding him, but regression seems likely and I hope they don’t overpay.
BaseBall Bob
At his age, why should Naylor regress? The guy can flat out hit.
Chuck from Uniontown
Naylor hits Line drives and has a Hard Hit rate that are both in line with league average. He can hit for sure, but his BABIP will regress from .326 in a big way.
YourDreamGM
Should do just as well in Pittsburgh.
mlb1225
I’d easily take the middle ground between his 2022 season when he had a .268 BABIP, and 2023 season when he had a .326 BABIP. Splitting the difference is still a .282/.336/.471 batter with a 124 wRC+ and a .298 BABIP.
Chuck from Uniontown
I would still take it, and those numbers are probably about what I’d expect.
yes
They may as well move the Guardians. What is the point anymore?
Julio Franco's Birth Certificate
They are trying to be the first team in history to win a title with absolutely no offense at all. Just hope the JRam can score a run once every 9 ABs through the lineup.
This front offense is great at pitching, but hot garbage at evaluating and valuing hitters. I’ve never seen a lineup comprised of all LH, .200 slap hitters before.
Avory
Jose Ramirez: slap hitter
Josh Naylor: slap hitter
Bo Naylor: slap hitter
Oh, and neither Steven Kwan nor Andres Gimenez hit. 200. Neither did Will Brennan either.
There’s no hyperbolic fan like CLE fan. After 2022 we were geniuses. After 2023 we were bums. The truth is always in the middle, but never expect moderate or intelligent assessments from the peanut gallery.
BrianStrowman9
Cleveland hit 124 Homeruns.
The next closest team hit 151Hrs.
It’s not hyperbole to suggest they have the least punch in the MLB. They in fact have the Least powerful lineup in the majors. A full season of Naylor and Manzardo might get them up to 29th.
Avory
Naturally you conveniently ignore Bo Naylor. Ignore the fact that this is the youngest team in the major leagues and teams grow into power. And completely miss the point altogether, that no one cares how, but how many. The only thing that matters in baseball is run differential, and CLE was nowhere near the worst in that aspect, and was miles better than the team it finished behind for 2nd in the division. This team will hit more homers, but the most important thing is that the rotation stay healthy, the bullpen returns to form, the team runs the bases better, and has a full season of better defense than we got at catcher and shortstop much of last year. But again, I understand, you’re not into the “complexities” of baseball. Much easier to count the number of balls hit over the fence. I suggest you follow slow-pitch softball instead. Much simpler to analyze.
Brian frigging Downing
Naylor is as bout a clutch a hitter as there is in baseball these days. I’d take that bat all day any day.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Except tomorrow. No games scheduled in December.
Liberalsteve
Anyone calling them the Indians should be banned
TurnOffTheTV
The Indians are the best team in the state of Ohio. Go on and tell us how great you are.
Liberalsteve
huhhhh
holecamels35
Name checks out.
Curveball1984
lol
The Natural
Puh- lease Steve…get a life.
Julio Franco's Birth Certificate
I agree that we should ban anybody saying Indians. No reference should ever be made about the Indians. No Indians talk. None. It’s ridiculous and hurtful that people mention the Indians.
Curveball1984
Julio Franco would never say something so stupid.
its_happening
Give an inch you take a mile. Ban one word it’ll become a million words.
Curveball1984
How about we do that. But then, we ban ANYONE who says “Cleveland”, “Clevelanders”, “Cleveland Baseball Club” or “Guardians” when referencing any player, season or pennant that took place from 2021 or earlier. During this period they shall be called “Indians” or “Tribe”, strictly. Deal?
its_happening
Can we replace “Cleveland” with “Mediocre”? Seems reasonable.
CantShadowBanFishersBlumpkins
Dude, this is like if I told my grandfather what a “troll” was and gave him a random website account.
The screen name alone negates the message.
Do better Steven. This will make your children call you, no doubt.
admiral hopppaaa
well, you just did, so….buh bye steve.
oh wait, your idea of a rule only applies to others, right?
nailz#4life
Guardians will finish a close 2nd to get him!!!!!
baseballteam
Hey let’s start some trade rumors!
Dumpster Divin Theo
Sure. What can I get for this here bag of Oranges. And a Ty Cline Expo rookie card? 80s mixtape maybe?
King Floch
Trading Naylor just as he seems to be hitting his peak would kinda be BS considering how much trouble Cleveland has had with improving their offense the last few years.
Dalman21
If the Guardians were seriously interested in trading Josh Naylor I would think his market would be a whole lot broader than just the three teams mentioned in the article who happened to inquire about him.
baseballteam
Bo Naylor rumored (by me) for Cubs’ #5 prospect Ben Brown.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Nice pickup for the Cubs. Poor man’s Ohtani.
cdouglas24000
Let me know when the Mariners sign ANY FREE AGENTS. THE owner Stanton is a flipping joke. The team is on the cusp of real contention and they won’t spend any frigging money
Avory
Spending money is your beef? That’s the answer? If it were, the Padres, Mets, or Dodgers would have won a World Series by now.
How about looking at how a team is constructed, not its payroll for once. Be an informed fan, not one who assumes spending is anything but a weak correlation with winning. Heck, poor spending is a stronger correlation with persistent failure.
An example of which is the Mariners.
whyhayzee
Naylor to the Mets. Be can wear Vogelbach’s uni.
CKinSTL
It seems really unlikely someone offers a package that the Guardians couldn’t refuse for Naylor.
I definitely hope he stays. He is a character and a fun player to watch. He’s also turned himself into a pretty solid first baseman. He is excellent at picking balls out of the dirt.
Avory
Some of his scoops are just incredible. He saved a playoff game against Tampa (the long extra inning game) and one in Chicago that were among the most clutch snags I’ve ever seen. He’s just a clutch player all the way around.
dano62
As much as I cheer for my fellow Canadian I’d be wary if Cleveland offered up Josh; sorry to say I’m guessing his body type will have a shorter peak period than say Nate Lowe or Adam Vaughn…
taylor
He can actually run a little.
taylor
Naylor is the LH hitting France. Dont see the Mariners making that move. Naylor may be a little faster…
Brian frigging Downing
INDIANS likely to be bad this year, like the REDSKINS
holycow16
I’d rather see Bellinger @ 1st…
Brian frigging Downing
Have any INDIANS played for the REDSKINS or vice versa?
unpaidobserver
Naylor? I hardly know her.
NEOhiosports
Josh is a fan favorite!!
The fact that Josh Naylor is even mentioned in trade talks is disgusting.
This front office and ownership is doing everything to push fans away!
KcsMsFan
I would hope if the Mariners traded for Naylor that it wouldn’t be with the intention of trading France. At this point we need to start adding hitters… not losing additional ones.
Zippy the Pinhead
Used to be a great bar/restaurant in LA called Tiny Naylor’s. Every time this guy comes to the plate I just want to call him Tiny.
CubsAreMidButTheresAlwaysHope
If I’m the Cubs, I’d offer the Indians Matt Mervis and a random A or AA pitcher for Naylor. Anything else would be an unneeded overpay by the Cubs.
Avory
This is satire, right? CLE trading a proven major league first baseman and hitter for a completely unproven one? When one of the ONLY reasons CLE would even consider dealing Naylor is they already have Kyle Manzardo–a guy far better than Mervis–due to make his MLB debut this year?
I don’t normally mind people making trade predictions, but I find them insulting when they are made without any consideration to the needs of the other team involved.
Brian frigging Downing
GUARDIANS!!!! You have triggered us with your lack of awareness!!! Never say Indian again or be canceled. Last warning
drasco036
Guardians are not entertaining that deal. Maybe if it was in the middle of the year and Naylor walk year.
rond-2
Pirates should just put Davis at 1st. He needs a position
edwardk64
Or Triolo. Or both. Out of the two of them, Triolo has the better glove. And he sure found his swing down the stretch
joew
50 innings at first makes him an expert. 😀 but yeah putting Triolo in spring for a bunch of games to make sure he can do it. Probably can.
My guess is Triolo would be part of any trade to bring in a quality pitcher or first basemen with more than one year of control.
IMO Davis’s arm is too good to be at first.
JRamHOF
I regret reading this comment section
joew
Would be a huge pick up for the pirates but probably cost to much with that extra year of control.
team does has a surplus at some positions.
I’d like to see someone with more power at first but any offensive upgrade is welcome.
Seachi
The Mariners signed some new coaches, they are done for the off season. Their biggest hope was Othani to the Jay’s so they could make some money selling his jersey in the club store when the Blue Jay’s come to town.
NoMoreWindowDressing
The Angels along with likely candid conversations with Ichiro and Iwakuma taught Ohtani that not even two superstars can carry a team.
Mariners were never in the consideration as his next team.
After forty years of being a devoted fan, am considering following the Atlanta Braves.
PoopMonster
Ms trade chips Woo & Miller would get blown up at the CLE little league ballpark.
bloomquist4hof
Why would the M’s do that? They have bigger needs than 1B. Sure they need to bring in some 1B insurance, but unless they can land someone big they need to focus on the OF and maybe DH and the bullpen. France seems like as good a bounceback candidate as anyone and if their budget is so contrained, trading quality chips for marginal upgrades isnt going to help and might make things worse.
Irishblade
It’s “Mariners are connected to everyone and get none of them” SZN!!!!
Slothcliff Hokum
What would the Guardians ask from Seattle in exchange for Naylor? Cue the Logan Gilbert comments:
lee cousins
Is there something here to be said about the Mariners? Probably not as the many other fans come aboard. This Naylor is another inconsequential player the M’s will have nothing to do with that’s what I mean by inconsequential. It really behooves me in who the M’s will target other than pitching which is what there all about as expected they will reload here once again. As for the hitting it’s totally about adding on rebound players or reclamation projects something like we saw last year this dumping of salary will not benefit player acquisition in the slightest The FO. is wearing there good will too the very end
have you seen my baseball
Huh??
Seachi
Forget Bell tomorrow Vlad Jr is playing first base for the Mariners.