Yariel Rodriguez’s market continues to percolate, as the Astros, Blue Jays, Pirates, and Yankees “are still in the bidding for” the right-hander’s services, according to reporter Francys Romero (X link) earlier this week. Romero’s post came prior to Yoshinobu Yamamoto’s deal with the Dodgers, as Romero suggested that Rodriguez’s suitors were first waiting for Yamamoto to sign.
This would seemingly refer to the Yankees and Blue Jays in particular, who were known to be in the running for Yamamoto’s services. Toronto was a bit more on the periphery of the hunt while the Yankees were seemingly one of three or four finalists, joining the Mets and Giants in falling short of the Dodgers in the bidding for the Japanese ace. Presumably neither the Yankees or Jays would’ve been in on Rodriguez if they had signed Yamamoto, so the presence of two big spenders still in the market is good news for Rodriguez and his reps at WME Baseball.
It should be noted that Romero didn’t state that these four teams were finalists for Rodriguez, or that any other known suitors were out of the running. The Astros, Jays, Pirates, and Yankees were all listed among the 10 interested teams in Romero’s initial report about Rodriguez in early November, and that group (which also included the Dodgers, Giants, Mets, Phillies, Rangers, and White Sox) has grown to include the Rays, Red Sox, and Padres in subsequent reports.
Rodriguez is something of a wild card in the free agent pitching market, given that he has spent most of his career pitching in Cuba, he worked mostly out of the bullpen with the Chunichi Dragons of Nippon Professional Baseball from 2020-22, and he didn’t pitch at all in 2023 (apart from the World Baseball Classic) since he sat out the NPB season trying to get released from his contract with the Dragons. However, Rodriguez doesn’t turn 27 until March, and there is enough intrigue in his upside as a starter that MLBTR ranked him 28th on our list of the offseason’s top 50 free agents, and projected him for a four-year, $32MM contract.
This price point would put Rodriguez in range for even lower-payroll teams, even if such clubs are taking more of a risk in such a financial commitment for a pitcher with no Major League track record. For the Pirates specifically, $32MM for Rodriguez would rank as one of the eight most expensive contracts in the franchise’s history, so it would seem rather aggressive for a Bucs team just coming out of a rebuild to suddenly splurge on an unproven arm. That said, the Pirates are known to be looking for more rotation help, and they could have enough faith in Rodriguez’s upside that they could view something like a $32MM investment as a potential bargain.
International signings have been the backbone of the Astros’ run of success over the last decade, in the form of inexpensive deals for future stars like Jose Altuve or Framber Valdez, or Houston’s more significant investment in a five-year, $47.5MM deal for Yuli Gurriel when he came to the big leagues from Cuba during the 2016 season. Current Astros general manger Dana Brown naturally wasn’t in change of the front office back in 2016, though he did suggest that his team was looking to add “a legit third starter or better” this offseason, while acknowledging that the Astros were working with a somewhat limited amount of spending space. Roster Resource projects Houston’s 2024 payroll to sit almost exactly at the $237MM luxury tax threshold, which is notable since the Astros have only once (in 2020) exceeded the tax line in their history.
Signing Rodriguez would be an interesting fallback position from Yamamoto for either New York or Toronto. Rodriguez’s lack of track record wouldn’t necessarily solidify a rotation that already has a couple of injury-related question marks in Nestor Cortes and Carlos Rodon, as well as the unproven Clarke Schmidt as the projected fourth starter. However, the Yankees might view Rodriguez as an upside play as a de facto fifth starter, or perhaps even a bullpen addition if he doesn’t work out as a starter.
The same could be said about Rodriguez’s possible usage on the Blue Jays’ staff, even if Toronto’s rotation is a little more defined. Kevin Gausman, Chris Bassitt, Jose Berrios, and Yusei Kikuchi project as the top four, with Alek Manoah penciled in as the fifth starter for now despite all of the uncertainty in the wake of Manoah’s rough 2023 season. Adding Rodriguez would give the Blue Jays more depth if Manoah can’t bounce back, or perhaps the Jays would then feel more emboldened to trade Manoah or even Kikuchi to address other needs in the lineup.
DarkSide830
I can’t imagine anyh contender expects Rodriguez to start seeing as he hasn’t since 2021.
99CaptainJudge99
If he can’t start for a team from the long layoff, there’s no reason to believe he couldn’t be a dominant bullpen piece, as a setup man or a future closer.
DarkSide830
Point is these articles tend to imply he’d start which seems unlikely.
Blue Baron
Huh? Translation please?
Jaysfansince92
@blue The last time he was a starting pitcher was 2021. It’s likely his arm is not built up enough to be counted on as a regular rotation member. He would probably be better used as a swing man/long man this year with an eye towards 2025 if that is the direction a team wants to go. He could also be used as a late innings option if they decide they don’t want to go the SP route.
horaceallen
Maybe the Mets should be kicking the tires.
iverbure
Jays that could be any argument against like 70% of starters these days. These guys are protected so much and they still break down at record rates. You won’t see many prospects pitch over 100 innings in minors and thus most of them aren’t ready to log a full season of mlb pitching.
The solution to this problem has always been limiting the amount of pitchers teams can carry I’d also go with a 4 batter minimum. Encourages teams to develop RP who can effectively pitch multiple innings.
its_happening
The solution to the “problem” is placing more restrictive rules on pitching? No. That’s not the solution. If you’ve watched any baseball the last 40 years you’d know what the solution is to pitchers breaking down, it starts off the field followed by what’s in the batters box, then the ballfield in it’s entirety. What you suggest will do nothing.
rct
“I can’t imagine any contender expects Rodriguez to start seeing as he hasn’t since 2021.”
Did the extra ‘h’ in ‘any’ really throw you off that much?
Ma4170
Its funny because you could also read this as he’s been blind since 2021. Which would make his stats even more incredible.
Frankee
They call him “Blind Yuri” in Havana.
jimmyz
Which is why the Pirates as a non-contending, low budget, starting pitching needy team can’t afford to let him end up in the Yankees or Blue Jays bullpen. If the Bucs think he can be a viable mid-rotation starter after a year of building up to it and a 4 year/35 million deal gets it done they should make that deal then trade him to the Yankees or Blue Jays or whoever in two or three years.
Igor Jones
JimmyZ –
I desperately want the Bucs to be winners. Even strong contenders would be nice as I am rapidly running outta “Wait till next years.”
Having said that, it won’t be this year. As soon as I saw the signing of Rowdy Tellez I knew that contending was just lip service by Nutting’s henchmen.
If anyone within earshot of that b*****d Nutting were to mention spending $32,000,000 for one player for four years, Nutting would have their head on a pike outside of PNC Park. And particularly a player who hasn’t pitched in a year because the Pirate coaching staff couldn’t coach cows to eat corn. They are an abysmal train wreck of an organization.
I look for Nutting to keep #1 pick Paul Skenes in the minors until either a) The coaching staff ruins him or b) Skenes has surgery and is out of baseball in three years. (I DO NOT wish any harm to Mr. Skenes…he is in a crap situation with this bunch of bozos and I feel very bad for him as a promising young player.)
Gee…that was kind of cathartic!
PiratesPundit51
I’d love to have your inside sources on the Pirates’ budgeting and your personal relationship with Bob Nutting to know such things. Or wait, are you just quoting tired media tropes and lines from the MLBPA?
The Pirates are in contention for this arm because they can offer him a spot in the rotation. While two seasons removed from starting, he is still young enough that a couple of solid seasons under his belt as a starter would be worth FAR more to him than some good seasons as a reliever in the Yankees’ or Blue Jays’ bullpens.
It’s profound stupidity to suggest that Bob Nutting’s wallet is also the Pirates’ wallet – MLB ownership simply does not work that way – despite what the media suggests. A 4-year-term might be difficult for an unproven commodity in terms of what the Pirates will be able to do moving forward, the Pirates could only hope to reasonably fund a $120-$130 million payroll for a few years without either more consistent revenue (not tied to attendance) or a big sell-off of assets to meet the bottom line. The Pittsburgh market (around 2 million people total) cannot sustain much more than that.
Igor Jones
Wow! I feel like I have been dressed down by Dejan K!
Since you obviously have access to inside information and I am just living off of media/MLBPA tropes, please elucidate good sir.
Perhaps share things such as:
– How much money is in the PBC bank account(s)?
– How much money earned by the PBC each season that goes into the Nuttings’ personal bank account(s)?
– Small market? Other teams in “small markets” have done it. What happened here?
– Why do the Bucs continue to pick up has beens/never weres like Tellez for peanuts?? (Not shilling for the MLBPA.)
– Why isn’t talent developed through the minor league system? Is it because the Pirate coaching staff from top to bottom is made up of know-nothings?
I do appreciate your response. God only knows that someone as profoundly stupid as me, that you so rightly have pointed out, has his betters (such as yourself) to educate me.
Must go now. Someone is either pissing on my leg or it is raining. I never can tell.
Astrosfn1979
We’re the 2023 Astros a contender?
Ronel Blanco was the closer in AAA and winter ball in 2022, barely averaged 1 inning per appearance, and hadn’t started a game since 2019.
New GM Dana Brown saw him pitch in spring training and suggested trying him in the rotation.
He ended up starting 27 games between AAA and Houston and averaged nearly 5 1/2 innings per start in MLB. Ideally you want 6 but plenty of starters average less than 6.
I’m sure he and his agent have talked to MLB about starting and he has been preparing the whole off season. He has plenty of time to get built up and stretched out. It’s still 7 weeks till pitchers and catchers report.
DarkSide830
Yeah, but was HOU expectinh Blanco to start for them at this time last year? Losing guys like Garcia and Urquidy to injuries makes you change your plans. Blanco wasn’t getting stretched out until May.
Astrosfn1979
This was all done before Garcia and Urquidy were injured and the severity of McCuller’s injury was discovered.
But the point is there is still time for a pitcher to get ready to be a starter for 2024
JoeBrady
I’m suspicious that the Padres aren’t pursuing him. They are usually pretty good with this stuff. If he isn’t on their list, it makes me wonder why.
Habitual Truth Teller
He’s 25 and probably going to price himself out of their range.
Plus RH relief isn’t something they’re in need of with Suarez, Wilson, Jacobs, De Los Santos plus Brito Vasquez Avila (whoever doesn’t end up in the rotation).
Chuck from Uniontown
He will be 27 in March
rocky7
He very well could be 30+ as birth records in Cuba certainly can be a moving target…..there certainly is upside with this guy, but there is as much downside too as it looks as if he’s looking for an enormous payday with his agent obviously trying to start a bidding war……
stymeedone
Lynn signed for $12MM. Any pitcher who can start for a lower rate is a bargain.
Simm
Think the padres would have interest but at 8m a year he would need to be a starter for them.
Maybe they just don’t see that happening. Highly doubt they bring him in at 8m to be a pen piece.
Just because he isn’t mentioned tied to the padres doesn’t mean they aren’t in the mix.
Chuck from Uniontown
Interesting to see Pittsburgh in the fray on this one. I wouldn’t hate it.
Mike Adamson
Don’t believe it at all
TheMan 3
Actually in several bucs’ circles there’s reason to believe that BC is seriously interested in this pitcher
Mike Adamson
I will believe it when it happens! They just very rarely give tenure unless it’s extremely team friendly! This guy is a high risk high reward! Not their style!
Jaysfansince92
Wouldn’t be a bad move for the Jays. Grabbing a young player with talent for nothing but cash (and a fairly reasonable amount at that) is something they should be trying to do given the state of their farm system atm.
TigersLoveCinnamon
He’ll be 27 by the time the season starts, he’s far from young, and won’t help their farm
iverbure
Adding a player for just cash helps the farm. You don’t have to trade assets from the farm to acquire a roster player.
Akakak
Nothing wrong with adding a live arm to add to our 5/6 starter mix.
If he becomes an in his prime, high leverage reliever hes a bargain at his anticipated contract.
If he becomes even a solid inning eater, his contract is a steal of a deal.
stymeedone
Pittsburgh has the advantage of being able to guarantee a rotation spot.
Jaysfansince92
27 is more than young enough. If they have him for 6 years through arb he would only be 32 in the last year. Since they don’t have a lot of players coming through the farm they need more affordable players that can help at the MLB level.
Jaysfansince92
Also what iverbure said.
Akakak
Exactly rumored guys like jonathan india and this guy make tonnes of sense.
Jays have a need for young controllable complementary pieces.
bullred
I would think it would be a great gamble but I don’t see Shatkins as being the gambling people. They always seem to look for sure things. I can see them bumping up the price though as I’m sure they did with Yoshi and Ohtani.
Yankee Clipper
Hey, Yankees have a #18 jersey available!
Joe says...
Did Yamamoto give it back?
Yankee Clipper
Haha, I know right. Maybe they should wait until after the guy signs to assign him a number.
He was probably going to be a Yankee until he met with Boone –
clubber_lang84
Here comes Houston signing a player none of the media or scouts cares about. He will then proceed to post up 30 quality starts next year
Fernando P
Highly doubt he will put up 30 “quality” starts. No one put up more than 24 quality starts last year.
Probably lucky to get 24 starts from him given to him being out for last year.
Ma4170
I thought the mets or rangers would be all over this
vikingbluejay67
Blue Jays are in on everybody and nobody at the same time.
Cknyc
legend says that plane to toronto is still in route, with nobody aboard.
realistnotsucker
32 million over a 4 year period a large commitment in todays mlb? Pirates ownership is truly a joke that doesn’t care about winning or the fans, sad how team with 5 championships and history will never be on that type of level again, ownership really ruined one of better mlb teams in history
pohle
yeah, wild that kind of chump change, less than lourdes gurriel’s deal cost last week, is seen as egregious spending to nutting.
bullred
I wouldn’t have done that deal for Lourdes. Love him as a human and he will give a team a little surplus value, but his antics in the dugout and off the field which is fun, will soon spill out onto the field and that base running gaff or missed popup will just be laughed off. Then other players will pick up and follow that nature. Great player for a rebuilding team but not someone you need to count on. This all sounds stuffy but until you have seen it, its hard to just brush it off. Now that Lourdes has his contract it will start creeping into his play. He is a fun guy!
Bill nd
He pitched in 2022, 56 games, with an ERA of 1.48, the layoff no worse than a pitcher coming back from Tommy John without the physical questions.
wvsteve
I think pirates give him a shot to start They have done their homework on him
PinstripedPride
Rodriguez has the talent that I’d like to see the Yankees grab and potentially make their next closer.
joew
I find it hard the pirates would put that to risk. But if they do and He can be an average back end starter then i call it a win. at 4y/32m
I’d be looking more at 3y/20m maybe a couple options that would give him 8m AAV guaranteed but gives the team a couple more years of control.
7M isn’t bad for a quality reliever that I think he is. I would defiantly throw decent sized bonuses in for games started and Innings pitched to be fair to him.. then just tell Shelty not to use him as an opener lol.