Multiple reports have indicated that the demand for starting pitching is huge this offseason and one player that could benefit is right-hander Seth Lugo. In an appearance on Foul Territory, Robert Murray of FanSided reports that Lugo’s market is extensive and “more than half the league” has checked in on him.
Lugo, 34, spent most of his career in the bullpen with the Mets but reached free agency last winter and drew plenty of interest from clubs who thought he could return to the rotation, as he had done years before. The Padres were ultimately the one to take a chance on Lugo, signing him to a two-year, $15MM deal with an opt-out opportunity midway through.
The experiment worked quite well, as Lugo was ultimately able to throw 146 1/3 innings over 26 starts. He missed about a month due to a calf strain, but apart from that, the larger workload didn’t seem to impact his results. He posted an earned run average of 3.57, striking out 23.2% of batters, limiting walks to a 6% rate and keeping 45.2% of balls in play on the ground.
Now that he has proven himself capable of filling a starting role, his market should be even stronger this offseason than it was a year ago, making it an easy decision for him to opt out and retry free agency. Murray notes that Lugo’s market is vast and that he would not be surprised to see Lugo get a three- or four-year deal. At the start of the offseason, MLBTR predicted Lugo for a three-year, $42MM pact, which would be $14MM per year.
Given his age, it would be hard for Lugo to go too far beyond that. But that ceiling is perhaps why so many clubs are interested. Aaron Nola already secured himself a seven-year, $172MM deal to return to the Phillies and nine-figure deals should also be available for guys like Blake Snell, Yoshinobu Yamamoto and Jordan Montgomery. The appetite for starting pitching is high but not every club will be able or willing to pay those kinds of prices, leaving them looking to guys like Lugo.
To this point in the offseason, Lugo has been specifically linked to the Tigers but it seems his market is far wider than that. He will likely require a modest average annual value, relative to some of the other free agents, which makes him a speculative fit for a far greater number of clubs. Even mid- or small-market teams need to give out eight-figure contracts from time to time and the widespread demand should help Lugo earn a much greater guarantee than he got a year ago. It was recently reported that nearly half the league had checked in on Yamamoto, but he is widely expected to get $200MM or more. Since Lugo is perhaps looking at getting a quarter of that, it stands to reason that he has even more clubs calling him up.
carlos15
Lugo should’ve been given a starting opportunity earlier with the Mets, his stuff always lent itself to a starters repertoire and he’s been durable and he’s expressed interest in that direction for a long time now. I bet they would take him back as a rotation option now. Too bad he had to leave to get that shot.
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Happy Thanksgiving to all! Hope your favorite team(s) do not sign too many turkeys!
BaseballisLife
Happy Thanksgiving Manny! Gobble gobble.
rememberthecoop
Same to you Manny. Gobble up that bird!
StuckwithMetz22
So true, for years they had him stabilize the bullpen but he would have been better utilized in the starting rotation, especially all the years Degrom , Thor, and Carrasco were injured.
rct
He got a bit of a shot with 31 starts over his Mets career, his last being some pretty bad starts in 2020. Kind of surprising they didn’t keep him considering they let Bassitt and Walker go, but they had brought in Verlander, Senga, and Quintana. Hopefully, he gets a solid deal this offseason. Maybe the Mets will admit their mistake and bring him back.
Brian frigging Downing
This has Perry Minasians name all over it. He loves players coming off a single a decent season after a career of mediocrity. Welcome to Anaheim Seth.
BaseballisLife
Moreno also only allows his GM to sign pitchers to short term deals so Lugo would be a good fit there.
Ma4170
That’s pretty harsh, he’s had some good years, particularly as a RP. His return to SP last year being solid was surprising to me, but in a pitcher’s park so who knows. I think he’ll be a solid signing for any team at not too steep a price.
SalaryCapMyth
His stats don’t agree with you. Out of 8 seasons he has posted better than league average run prevention 6 times. You really should change the way you evaluate pitching. Even starters that DO post ERA’s of 4+ can still be assets. It depends on three things: cost, durability and place in the rotation. For example if Lugo got 2 years-$25M and he was your no.4, your rotation is in a damn good place.
BaseballisLife
Career as a starter. 64 starts. 341 IP. 4.01 ERA. 2 teams.
If Lugo got 3/42 to be your #4 or #5 your team is still in a damn good place.
SalaryCapMyth
That might be a little rich for my blood. There is still some risk here. Age and lack of track record as a starter but you may very well be right. If he could repeat something like what he did last season for three more seasons in a row, that would be worth it.
Brian frigging Downing
You must be confused about the Angels. LUGO would be the clear # 1 starter, staff ace and opening day starter for the Angels. Evaluate teams better bro.
SalaryCapMyth
You’re commentary isn’t about my post, it’s about the Angels. If the Angels sign him to that contract and he is the best pitcher the Angels have, that’s their bad. As a general principle, my statement is correct. So.. learn to comprehend..I guess?
BaseballisLife
Detmers, Sandoval, and Canning are all about league average or slightly above.
Lugo has been about league average as a starter in his career.
Lugo might be the opening day starter on that team but he is far from an ace. I would still put my money on Detmers being the opening day starter even if they sign Lugo.
Brian frigging Downing
Learn the proper use of, and context for, an ellipsis […] I guess?
SalaryCapMyth
You know you aren’t doing well in an argument when you’ve completely dropped the original conversation and resorted to spelling and grammar on such a minor thing. I except your surrender. =)
Brian frigging Downing
Lol says the guy who insulted my English comprehension skills? You’re a real turd aren’t you? You start critiquing my English then cry when you are called out for same. You lost the argument two posts ago bubba.
SalaryCapMyth
My argument involves a critique of your inability to comprehend but it was still predominantly about baseball.
Real turd? Are you six years old or something? Always fun getting insulted by a slag like you. You’re such a bell end.
Chaval0n
Diamondbacks
sufferforsnakes
It would be a better investment than MadBum was……which in reality isn’t saying much. But yeah, I’d love to see Arizona sign him.
SalaryCapMyth
I especially remember when MadBun signed with Arizona. One of my fellow Braves fans on these boards was so enthusiastic for Bumgarner he moronically tied Atlanta’s playoff hopes to signing him. I was really hopeful the Braves would NOT sign him but at the time they were considered the front runners.
mlbtraderumors.com/2019/11/braves-reportedly-prior…
I’m sorry DBack fans had to endure that train wreck of a contract but Arizona has moved on from MadBun and are in a great position.
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
D-Backs need SP. Lugo would be a good fit there. But I wouldn’t go any longer than, say, two years. at $10 million per.
BaseballisLife
He just walked away from 1/7.5 million. This site is saying he will get 3/42 and the Athletic is saying 4/56
Boazona
Yeah, I think he’s a good Hazen fit. Maybe he’ll get a couple million buyout for year three if it needs to be a 3-year contract.
Bjoe
Royals
Datashark
Lugo to either Houston or LAD
BaseballisLife
For 1 year deals like the Tigers?
cplwhite
3 yrs $45m to the Cubs
BrettPhillips for Prezident
Don’t do it mo
IMissVin
I can see Friars resigning him
deepfryar
Naw, Nielba turns pitchers on to stars, more likely they score another deal similar to Lugo 23 on the cheap and save their money to sign Soto to a long term backloaded deal… But hey I don’t know Erik or AJ…
BaseballisLife
A couple of your fellow Friars fans on here have mentioned guys like Fedde, Plutko, Junis, and Yariel Rodriguez possible cheaper targets that can benefit from Niebla’s magic for a back of the rotation spot.
To me I would want the proven performer like bringing back Wacha or Lugo as the #4 or #5 or a top FA like Montgomery or Yamamoto to fill Snell’s spot in the rotation.
Old York
He’s an interesting player.
Just based on 2023’s performance, GB% of 45.2% and kwERA of approximately 3.334, the calculated GBkwERA is approximately 4.55.. That’s what you should have expected from what he can control along with adding in Groundballs that more than likely result in an out.
I’d say he got fairly lucky this year with this numbers, with the help of San Diego which had one of the top 10 defenses in the league and allowed the second fewest runs per game.
texasbug
The Houston Astros are looking for some bullpen help.
gbs42
But he’s a starter.
Riffaxe
Going to the Reds!
dano62
Getz willing to make a little splash, will ink Lugo to 3 year, $49m deal…
davemlaw
Another pitcher who could follow Lugo’s path is Jakob Junis.
He throws a variety of pitches but SF pigeon holed him into a bulk innings reliever role.
A small to mid market team would do well to take a chance on him starting.
Happy Thanksgiving!
rememberthecoop
Can we truly say that he has “proven himself capable” when his only good results came last year? Even his previous minor league numbers weren’t very good. Of course, I get it that the experience stretched him out so teams can look at him as a starter now. Maybe he’s discovered something. I wonder if he’d get an mlb contract or if it would just be a minor league deal?
terry g
He’s an example of why teams need 6-8 starters. 5.6 innings per start isn’t great but he probably get he’s 3 years gig.
Wheeler Dealer
5 years ago guys like this wouldn’t have been mentioned on here
Bozzmania
Agree the money being given and declined is way too much for the value of these guys. I think we’re going to see really late signings this year maybe even in April or May
terry g
I was going to say 14M a year for a backend starter is an overpay but not when you see Lynn and Gibson get around that and I think he’s a little better.
We’ll see where and for how much he ends up with.
Four4fore
Plus he’s too young for the Cardinals to sign so its one less team to bid against.
ThonolansGhost
A lot of teams want him on a one or two year contract. If Lugo insists on a three or four year deal, most of those teams will lose interest really quickly.
JackStrawb
So clever of the Mets to have gone with Carlos Carrasco in the fifth slot in the rotation rather than spend $7.5 million on Seth Lugo for 2023. That move alone would have kept them in the race (and gone a long way towards keeping Carrasco, Peterson, and Megill off the mound), let them add at the Deadline instead of waving a screaming white flag, and probably get into the postseason with a rotation headed by Senga, Verlander, and Quintana plus their deadline additions.
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
Mets should sign Lorenzen and Dakota Hudson to one-year deals. Both would be decent #4 and/or #5 starters. 2024 is gonna be a throw-away year for the Mets in terms of winning the NL East. Braves and Phillies are way better.
But get some stability (i.e. Innings eaters) at the back end of the rotation, and maybe, just maybe, the Mets can grab that last wild-card slot (Sixth seed.).
Get into the October dance and anything can happen. To wit, these past two seasons the NL’s sixth seed, Phillies and D-backs, respectively, made it to the WS.
JMHO, but I don’t believe Cohen is gonna spend big cheese on the better SP options out there. That’s why two guys like Lorenzen and Hudson might work. Both should come cheaply, and both have had their share of good moments at the MLB level.
texasbug
I met Dakota Hudson he is a ass______
I ask for is autograph on a baseball ⚾ he really didn’t want to but he did.
Pads Fans
“Checked in” doesn’t mean willing to meet his desire for a 3-4 year deal at around $14-15 million.
More like Agent: “Hey, hey bro, would he take a one year deal? No. Well figured I should check in. Have a nice Thanksgiving”