Former Padres star Adrian Gonzalez was interviewed as part of the team’s recent managerial search, according to Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune and MLB Network’s David Vassegh. Gonzalez made it deep into the process, with Vassegh describing him as one of three finalists for the job, along with bench coach and eventual hire Mike Shildt.
Among the known candidates, Shildt and Phil Nevin had managed at the MLB level before, while Flaherty, Carlos Mendoza (hired by the Mets as their manager) and Benji Gil had experience on Major League coaching staffs. Gonzalez was an outlier in comparison, as he doesn’t have any experience as a manager or coach in the big leagues or even in the minors. While most of San Diego’s candidates were former players, the 41-year-old Gonzalez brought perhaps a different perspective as not only a player, but as an established superstar during his 15-year MLB career.
This might be the first managerial search in baseball history to ever include two former first overall draft picks, between Nevin (selected first overall in 1992) and Gonzalez (in 2000). Gonzalez lived up to that lofty potential by hitting .287/.358/.485 with 317 homers over his 8046 career plate appearances. His resume included five All-Star appearances, four Gold Gloves, three finishes within the top seven of MVP voting, and just recently became eligible for the Cooperstown ballot since it has been five full seasons since his last Major League game. While Gonzalez isn’t likely to receive induction to the Hall of Fame, just making the ballot is a notable recognition of an outstanding career.
This first-hand knowledge of what it takes to be a top-tier Major Leaguer might’ve had some appeal to the Padres, given the number of high-profile stars on the roster. Given past rumblings about tumult within the San Diego clubhouse, the Padres might’ve seen Gonzalez as an interesting candidate as perhaps something of both a boss and a peer for San Diego’s players, given that Gonzalez’s playing career only recently wrapped. President of baseball operations A.J. Preller also has a long history with Gonzalez, as the first baseman broke into the big leagues with the Rangers in 2004 just when Preller had been hired to join the Texas front office.
It makes for an interesting what-if within the Padres’ managerial hunt, and it remains to be seen if Gonzalez might seek out further coaching or managerial opportunities in the future, whether with the Padres or another organization. This job had obvious specific appeal to Gonzalez because he was born in San Diego and because he played with the Padres from 2006-10.
With Shildt now hired, attention will turn to the coaching staff. The Athletic’s Dennis Lin writes that pitching coach Ruben Niebla and bullpen coach Ben Fritz are likely to remain, though Fritz interviewed for the Angels’ pitching coach job that eventually went to Barry Enright. The third base coach and associate manager’s position are both open after the departures of Matt Williams and Ryan Christenson, and it might be interesting to see how whether the “associate manager” role remains at all, or if it was somewhat unique to the division of duties between Christenson and Flaherty.
Shildt has been working for the Padres for the last two years, so it isn’t as if he is an entirely new skipper coming in and wanting to install his own staff. That said, Lin isn’t sure if Flaherty (who is both the bench coach and offensive coordinator) could be back after coming up shy in the managerial search. This uncertainty might also extend to first base coach David Macias, who Lin describes as close with Flaherty and possibly also a candidate to leave if Flaherty isn’t back in 2024. Lin also notes that Shildt isn’t expected to make any coaching hires from the Cardinals, his longtime former team before his arrival in San Diego.
johnnynoitall
Gumby82
Firing him was just as dumb as the Giants forcing Bochy into retirement to clear the way for Gabe frigging Kapler
gravel
You and that tired narrative. Do you believe Bochy to be a liar?
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
At the time, however, Kapler was highly regarded as a manager. It seems like the manager is short-lived in this game today. Even the best are replaceable in two years.
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
Kapler, highly regarded! C’mon, man. Take a poll in Philadelphia.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Mostly with the Giants Kapler was pretty well received. But so was Joe Maddon and Alex Cora. Like I said, managers don’t have a long shelf life and I expect Melvin and Shildt will soon have the same fate if things don’t go their way.
Of course, there are outliers, but most managers don’t last too long.
Franklin Souze
100% concur….Seriously & grossly ignorant move by SF.
Gumby82
No, he wasn’t. Philly hated Kapler and laughed at the Giants for hiring him
Gumby82
Brian Sabean even said Bochy was forced out. Get your facts straight
gravel
My facts are straight. sfgate.com/giants/article/bruce-bochy-sets-record-…
But it doesn’t matter. If the Giants played compelling and entertaining ball in 2023 like they did in 2021 we wouldn’t care. Instead we are both dissatisfied with the state of the team and arguing over something neither of us had any control over. It is likely we do agree we over the subtraction of Gabe Kapler. I didn’t hate him, but I’m glad he has been shown the door.
ENTester
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Subatomicbunt
Pretty surprised. Never thought of him as a skipper. When he is on the Dodgers pre or postgame show I mute the TV. Anyone else know that he was aspiring to manage a team??
Freeman’s agent
I know when he lost his job to Cody Bellinger, he mysteriously went on vacation to Italy with his wife so that she could become a cobbler. This was during the Dodgers playoff run. And then he came back and made up some bull excuse. Bad teammate. Who would want a manager like that?
Subatomicbunt
Tim Salmon on the other hand….He would be a fantastic Manager I think!
aragon
I wonder what answers gets a guy hired and what don’t.
Subatomicbunt
Aragon, I’ll take a shot at it..
Team Brass: Do you know how to take orders/direction from a computer with dignity and grace?
Prospective Manager: Yes!
Team Brass: Welcome aboard!
sfes
Didn’t Schildt part from St Louis because he wouldn’t just be a “front office drone?”
agentx
Maybe it wasn’t the front office shilling itself as much as the person he was shilling for that bothered Schildt so much about St. Louis.
D68Soldier
The same Adrian Gonzalez who signed autographs with the tag, “I bleed Dodger blue”?
sdhitman19
No it’s the Adrian Gonzalez who signed autographs with the tag Padre legion of the brown and gold
deepfryar
Gonzo never wore brown and gold!
Bart Harley Jarvis
Maybe as a baby?
Hired Gun 23
On “Throwback” themed games, I believe he did…
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
Looking in diapers again, Bart!
Pads Fans
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He most definitely did
Bart Harley Jarvis
@BCttBC,
Well, my pediatrician Dr. Skull did once described me as, ‘one of the most aggressive babies he’s ever met.’
BaseballisLife
Heard that Benji Gil and Phil Nevin are going to be hired. Not sure what positions. Bench coach and 3B coach?
AHH-Rox
Any Yankees fans who hate the Padres will endorse the idea of Nevin as the 3B coach.
BaseballisLife
Hahaha
Pads Fans
Web said that too, but I can’t find it other than Twitter. Where did you read that?
Jeff Zanghi
I realize this is obvious as a Padres fan but I am not… who is Flaherty mentioned again and again? lol I realize I can probably Google “Flaherty Padres” but I drove myself nuts going back in the article trying to see when he was first referenced but never was by anything other than “Flaherty”
CptJack
Same here. I control-F’d a few times and there was nothing before Flaherty
JackStrawb
Did they mean Tim Flannery? Has to be. 1979-1989 Pad, a one-team guy.
Flanster
Tim Flannery is one half of the inspiration for my screen name
Jeff Zanghi
got it now… Ryan Flaherty the former UT guy lop
JackStrawb
Adrian Gonzalez is an optimistic template for a Pete Alonso extension.
Adrian put up 17.0 rWAR from age 30 to 36, after which he retired, and his peak seasons were 3o% more valuable than Pete’s lone peak season in 2019. Adrian’s average OPS+ for ages 26-29 was 152. Pete hasn’t had even one season of 152.
17.0 WAR is worth a deal of around $153 million during the 2023-24 offseason, which is a friendly number given better 1Bman than Pete were signing deals 6/162m, 5/135m, and 8/168m—but rumor is the Mets beat those numbers in their offer and that Pete’s looking for twice that amount. Betting he signs somewhere other than NY.
hereallnight
I wonder if he would have, as he did with the Red Sox, referred to losing games as ‘God’s will.’
sfes
God must have been too busy giving AIDS to starving babies in Africa that day.
JackStrawb
@hereallnight Really? Adrian’s god must have enormous processing power to affect the results of baseball games, including micromanaging whether balls drop in in a way consistent with physics such that millions of observers can’t discern his interventions as he (sorry, “He”) manipulates the results for this or that unfathomable reason (though certainly to teach Adrian a lesson now and then, I imagine)..
I wonder if it was ‘God’s will’ that his skills vanish after age 34?
Diggydugler
I love looking back on how bad some trades were. Gonzales for example.
June 5, 2000: Drafted by the Florida Marlins in the 1st round (1st pick) of the 2000 amateur draft. Player signed June 6, 2000.
July 11, 2003: Traded by the Florida Marlins with Will Smith (minors) and Ryan Snare to the Texas Rangers for Ugueth Urbina.
January 6, 2006: Traded by the Texas Rangers with Terrmel Sledge and Chris Young to the San Diego Padres for Billy Killian (minors), Adam Eaton and Akinori Otsuka.
It was a different time…
JackStrawb
@Diggydugler The good old days, when you could trade the entirety of Jeff Bagwell’s Hall of Fame career for 25 innings of Larry Anderson.
Diggydugler
I forgot Florida won the WS in 2003 so that trade was probably worth it.
JackStrawb
@Diggyduggler Hang on–how are we crediting the Marlins’ 2003 WS win to a trade that happened in 1990, given Bags stayed with Houston his entire career and Andersen was done in 1994?
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
Or my Phillies adding Ryne Sandberg as a “throw-in” to the Larry Bowa for Ivan DeJesus trade. Ouch!
hiflew
Both trades make sense when taken in context.
The Marlins were making a push for the playoffs and an eventual World Series and they needed a strong guy at the back end of the pen. Teams make these types of deals 1000 times. Occasionally the prospects really pan out. Occasionally they don’t.
With the Rangers, they already had a top young first basemen in Mark Teixeira and he was far more impressive in the majors than Gonzalez at that point. In fact, by that point Gonzalez had fallen off of top 100 prospect lists and was starting to look like a major bust. And at that point in time, Adam Eaton was looking like a solid big league starting pitcher. No one knew his career would fall right off a cliff after the deal.
Sure in hindsight these deals look lopsided, but at the time they both made quite a bit of sense.
Stars&Stripes
I wish Mike Schildt all the best. I had the pleasure of meeting Adrian Gonzalez and there isn’t a finer person around. I hope the Padres will find a meaningful position for him.
CNichols
Hitting coach seems like a really logical place for him to start an MLB coaching career
Stars&Stripes
that’s a terrific idea @CNichols…!!!
Fire Krall
Hey Padsfan..mute this!
Padres =last place
Comrade Tipsy McBlotto
I pushed the eject button on you.
Shadow_Banned
A Gon sounds like the Cookie Monster. Or Bert from Sesame Street. Not sure I can hear his voice for more than a game or 2 if I were a player
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Gonzalez- the guy who really didn’t like playing in Boston. At least it seemed that way…
Hired Gun 23
“according to Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune’s Kevin Acee and MLB Network’s David Vassegh.” I got scared for a second thinking there were 2 Kevin Acee’s…
Brew88
Acee deuce nightmare
Hired Gun 23
Ahhhhhhh!!!!
I.M. Insane
Isn’t A-Gon the guy that cried when he went to Boston because the Red Sox appeared on ESPN more than the Padres and would be playing Sunday nights? Doesn’t sound like management material to me.
bravesfan
This comment has nothing to do with Adrian but it very well could as I do not know what he’s been doing, but why do former baseball players almost get a immediate consideration for head coaching jobs when they don’t have any mgmt experience. Wouldn’t it be more valuable to an organization to see them develop as managers of the game and people managers before just giving them the keys to millions and letting them mess with something you invested millions in? What other industry do guys have lack of experience that are given the keys to the entire ship. Managers are like VP of sales. They are responsible for making that product on the field (reps) produce. Now I’ve seen a lot of VP’s undeservingly get the job, but they at least had mgmt experience before it and had to go through somewhat of a grid before getting there…. Idk. Just a wild concept to me. Their playing experience is experience, but there is a gap of experience these guys ultimately miss
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
I am surprised that no team has interviewed Raul Ibanez for their manager’s job. I know he currently has a gig with MLB, but every time I hear that man speak, I say to myself, “That’s a guy I’d follow into battle.”.
Of course, I have fond memories of Ibanez when he played for my Phillies. Just seems like the kind of guy whose name would be one of the first names to come up every time someone spoke the words, “Solid Citizen”.
Yanks2
What happens if a player makes the HOF and then comes out of retirement to play again
AHH-Rox
Jim Palmer tried such a comeback, but gave it up during Spring Training.
They don’t revoke the HOF membership.
Rsox
I thought he was still playing in Mexico.
Shildt was the right hire for team that still has its window of contention open. Watching Gonzalez as a player nothing he ever did screamed future manager
Zombie Bukowski
Adrian “I always wanted to be a Dodger” Gonzalez? Hard pass.
Dumpster Divin Theo
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