Blue Jays general manager Ross Atkins spoke to the media at the GM Meetings in Scottsdale, Arizona, with Ben Nicholson-Smith of Sportsnet passing along some of his quotes. Atkins discussed many details but the overarching takeaway was that the Jays are looking to add position players, with Atkins saying it could be anywhere from one to four players but it would most likely be two or three.
That pursuit is understandable given the results from the season that just ended. Though the Jays qualified for the postseason, their strength was their pitching and defense. The club had a combined wRC+ of 107 at the plate during the regular season, which wasn’t terrible, putting them just inside the top 10 league-wide. But they scored just one run across two games against the Twins in the Wild Card round and then saw Matt Chapman, Brandon Belt, Whit Merrifield and Kevin Kiermaier become free agents, depriving the club of four regular members of the lineup.
Atkins went on to address the free agent market, which is generally considered light on impact position players beyond Shohei Ohtani and Cody Bellinger, though the GM doesn’t necessarily view it that way. He said that “there are some really compelling players” available beyond the top of the market but they could also look to the trade market since they “still have the depth to trade from.”
Infield is likely to be a focus for the club, since Chapman was an everyday player at third base, while Merrifield split his time between second and the outfield and Belt played a bit of first base when he wasn’t the designated hitter. The Jays have plenty of infielders on the roster but, outside of shortstop Bo Bichette and first baseman Vladimir Guerrero Jr., many of them are unproven at the big league level or are perhaps better suited to a bench/utility role.
Davis Schneider, Cavan Biggio, Santiago Espinal, Spencer Horwitz, Ernie Clement, Otto López, Orelvis Martinez, Addison Barger and Leo Jimenez are all infielders on the 40-man roster but it’s unclear if the Jays want to rely on anyone in that group to step up and replace those that are departing. That is perhaps why Atkins gave the wide swath of possibilities for this winter.
Free agency features some potential solutions, such as Gio Urshela or Amed Rosario, though bringing Chapman back still seems to be on the table. Jon Heyman of The New York Post reports that Chapman is at the GM Meetings and has met with multiple teams, including the Jays. Chapman is coming off an uneven season but is still going to be one of the top free agents available this winter. He recently took the #7 spot on MLBTR’s list of the Top 50 Free Agents for this offseason, with a prediction of $150MM over six years.
Another option would be corner infielder Jeimer Candelario, who came in #13 on that MLBTR list with a prediction of $70MM over four years. Shi Davidi of Sportsnet reports that the Jays met with Candelario’s reps at the GM meetings, indicating they are open to him as a Chapman replacement. Candelario looked to be establishing himself as an everyday player in Detroit not too long ago, hitting .278/.356/.458 over 2020 and 2021 for a wRC+ of 124. But he then endured a nightmare season in 2022 and got non-tendered. Splitting 2023 between the Nationals and Cubs, he got back on track with a .251/.336/.471 line and 117 wRC+. He’s generally been regarded as a passable but subpar defender in that time.
It’s also possible the Jays go another direction and lump multiple younger players together in a trade for an established major leaguer. That’s how they acquired Chapman in the first place, sending four less-established players to the A’s in March of 2022. Given the aforementioned glut of infielders, it’s possible the Jays could look to do something like that again.
On the trade front, Nicholson-Smith reports that third baseman Eugenio Suárez of the Mariners is one of the players they are interested in. It’s unknown if Seattle has openness to such a deal, but it seems possible. Mariners president of baseball operations Jerry Dipoto said yesterday that the club is looking to reduce the amount of strikeouts in the lineup and moving on from Suárez would certainly help in that department. Each of the past five seasons has ended with his strikeout rate near 30%, when the league average is usually in the 22-23% range.
That hasn’t stopped him from being a useful hitter, but with year-to-year inconsistency. While his strikeout rate has been steadily high in those five recent campaigns, the power and batting average have oscillated. That has resulted in two season with a wRC+ of 130, a couple close to league average and one way down at 85. On defense, he’s generally considered passable at third, though Outs Above Average loved his 2023 season. That metric considered him to be league average over the 2018-2022 period but gave him +11 in 2023. He has one year left on his contract with a club option for 2025. He’s set to make a salary of $11MM in the upcoming campaign with the option valued at $15MM and coming with a $2MM buyout.
Another option that the Jays are open to is first baseman Joey Votto, who is now a free agent for the first time in his career after the Reds declined their 2024 club option. He has been a speculative fit for the Jays going back many years since he grew up in Etobicoke, which was amalgamated into Toronto in 1998. “Incredible player, remarkable career,” Atkins said of Votto. “They’re just massive impact in the community if he were to be a Toronto Blue Jay. So definitely something that we would have to consider if that was something he wanted to pursue.” Though he added that Votto’s reputation would lead to him finding interest outside of his stomping grounds. “Incredible reputation, really dynamic personality, really bright (person) that I know our team would embrace,” Atkins said. “But I think that’s the case for probably 15 teams.”
Despite Votto’s incredible career, he’s not coming into free agency on a high note, having hit .204/.317/.394 over the past two seasons with a shoulder surgery in between those campaigns. It’s a somewhat similar scenario to Belt, who joined the Jays after a poor 2022 campaign that was ended by knee surgery. But Belt was going into his age-35 season when he was signed whereas Votto is now 40. Both are left-handed hitters at first base and the designated hitter spot, so it’s possible Votto could be viewed as a Belt replacement, but the Jays might have less faith in a post-surgery bounceback from Votto given the age disparity.
In the outfield, the Jays could look for a center fielder to replace Kiermaier though Daulton Varsho is also a capable center fielder, which could allow them to add in a corner. But Jon Morosi of MLB.com reports they are showing interest in free agent Michael A. Taylor. He’s a similar player to Kiermaier as both are considered excellent defensive center fielders but with lesser reputations on offense. Taylor hit 21 home runs in 2023 but his 6.7% walk rate and 33.5% strikeout rate were both worse than league average, resulting in a 96 wRC+. The defensive metrics have continued to be excellent though, as they have all throughout his career.
Though the lineup figures to be the primary concern, there is some uncertainty on the pitching staff. Four rotation spots should be spoken for with Kevin Gausman, José Berríos, Chris Bassitt and Yusei Kikuchi all under contract and set to return in 2024, though the free agency of Hyun Jin Ryu leaves one spot open. That could go to Alek Manoah, who was excellent in 2021 and 2022, but 2023 was a different story. He posted a 5.87 ERA and was optioned to the minors multiple times as the relationship between him and the club appeared to sour. Perhaps there is some hope of getting back on track next year, as Atkins tells Keegan Matheson of MLB.com “I do feel like he has earned, already, the right to have a strong leg up” for that spot. Manoah may have some competition, as the Jays recently added Mitch White back to their roster, while prospect Ricky Tiedemann reached Triple-A in 2023.
Davidi adds that the Jays are interested in Japanese hurler Yoshinobu Yamamoto, with Atkins having gone to Japan to scout him three times this past year. They surely won’t be alone in that pursuit since Yamamoto is only 25 years old and has been one of the best pitchers in Japan for years, leading MLBTR to predict a contract of $225MM over nine years. Whether the club would upgrade their relatively strong rotation while having clear needs in the lineup is something that was asked of Atkins. “I feel like we will have the opportunity to present those types of significant adds or acquisitions to ownership. We’ve been given so much support that I wouldn’t say that that is unrealistic to do both.”
The club’s president/CEO Mark Shapiro previously stated that he expects next year’s payroll to be similar to this year’s, though they are already close on that front. Cot’s Baseball Contracts pegged their Opening Day payroll at $210MM in 2023 and now Roster Resource has them slated for $205MM next year. That includes projected salaries for arbitration-eligible players, but even a couple of non-tenders would only drop them down a bit below $200MM. Though if the competitive balance tax is the larger concern, there should be more wiggle room. RR estimates the club got to $246MM in terms of CBT in 2023 but is only at $216MM at the moment, with a few non-tenders likely to knock that down some.
Elsewhere in Blue Jays’ notes, they announced that Carlos Febles will be their third base coach next year, replacing Luis Rivera. It was reported last month that Rivera is retiring after 11 years in that gig for Toronto. Febles has been part of the Red Sox’ organization for the past two decades, serving as that club’s third base coach since 2018.
Catuli Carl
Looking to add multiple position players in an offseason that has the weakest crop of position players with impact bats in years. Methinks we are going to see a lot of trades this year.
One Bite Hotdog
Luis Robert Jr.
Steve Rogers
The Cubs are open for business if you have quality pitching. The best fit may be Madrigal 3b/2b/ss who was the 4th pick in his draft class. Any thoughts on a trade?
Wheeler Dealer
Maybe Wisdom and Madrigal would be fits?
stan lee the manly
Tyler O’Neill for Alek Manoah. Get Mr. Canada home!
its_happening
No go.
Murphy NFLD
Yea you dont trade 4+ years of what look like a good SP for 1 year of a OF bat
MotownWings
Looks like a good SP? Did you watch Manoah this year?
MoneyBallJustWorks
would you have traded EROD for Madrigal last offseason?
stan lee the manly
He looked absolutely atrocious last year and now has a very negative relationship with the Blue Jays. This is the EXACT player you trade lol, he’s a prototypical change of scenery guy.
nosake
Who would even give Manoah a second look?
its_happening
The Jays.
nosake
Like they have a choice.
its_happening
Exactly!
MoneyBallJustWorks
most sensible teams. while he likely isnt nearly as good as his 2022 season, he’s not as bad as 2023.
MotownWings
Poor attitude mixed with poor lifestyle choices. Either he fixes both or what you saw last year is the real Manoah.
TennVol
Good lord, Saurez is being looked at as a possible answer to 3B? Sigh, just awful news if that is indeed true. Why not put together a trade with the Twins and try and get Polanco for 3B and Kepler for LF? Twins looking to move them both and shed salary and both are good players at areas of need. Please don’t go after mediocre defenders and strikeout machines like Suarez!
ohyeadam
They made a trade not too long ago. So both front offices know the others farm system pretty well
painterman360
Suarez is a plus defender
its_happening
Exactly. Suarez is a plus defender until you watch him play. More reason why defensive metrics are truly off the mark.
SodoMojo90
Watched him nearly every night this past year. Played great defensively.
MoneyBallJustWorks
Polanco maybe we bought he has limited 3B. why not just put him at 2nd?
as for Kepler, can’t see them going after him as they then badicAlly have
MoneyBallJustWorks
Polanco maybe we bought he has limited 3B. why not just put him at 2nd?
as for Kepler, can’t see them going after him as they then basically have two OF platoon bats. Taylor makes sense because he’s a CF and bats RH so at the least he’s a platoon partner for Varsho.
stubby66
Well you know Rowdy Tellez will be available
its_happening
With approximately $190-mil going to current players it’ll be interesting to see who will be non-tendered to drop that number. If the Jays are looking at little moves they will get little return and be on the outside looking in. This is the time to go far beyond the threshold if they’re not going to rebuild (they’re not rebuilding).
Gumby82
Of course they are. They always try. As an A’s fan, I’m jealous
wvsteve
Jays are in a bad position. No way they add enough impact position players.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Until I see it happen myself, I tend to agree. I think at some point this team hits a wall. They depend on the free agency market and don’t fully utilize home grown talent. Vlad Jr. is really the only homegrown guy that’s comes to mind as being sustainable.
Mets, Padres, Yankees have all faced the downside of trying to sign stars from the free agency market and not having them pan out.
MoneyBallJustWorks
Bo Bichette and Alejandro Kirk say hi
BeeCarbo
Bobby Dalbec, Alex Verdugo, Reese McGuire and any, if not all, of the “position players”, the Red Sox had manning second base in 2023.
Rsox
Sign Michael Taylor to play CF, Candelario to play 3B, bring back Teoscar to DH and let Biggio and Espinal platoon at 2B.
nosake
I like the Jays but like the Twins more. Hope Michael A. Taylor stays put
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
A lot of money for a lot of low impact players.
PutMeinCoach88
lol platoon? Hello, Davis Schneider is better than both. Time to let go or trade any and all dead weight on this team. Biggio is suited for bench again.
Whyme
The Jay’s have a better defensive CF in Varsho. We need an OF who can hit.
MoneyBallJustWorks
Varsho isn’t great vs LHP
its_happening
Jays should have traded for him last offseason as a right handed bat to Kiermaier and Varsho’s LH bats.
Bababooney
DJ LeMahieu
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
He won’t do any good. He’s aging and was just not good this past season.
mookiesboy
Why not just sign a couple of their Free Agents?
farscott
While Chapman is probably much too expensive, I do not understand why Kiermaier is not a target. More than the Gold Glove defense, he hustles on every play, taking nothing for granted. He plays hard unlike a certain first baseman who is often seen trotting down the line. That “leaving it all on the field” is an example to be emulated. Batting ninth, his stated goal was “to be the best hitter in the ninth spot”. He did well enough to often bat higher than ninth. That drive is what teams need.
I get that KK is getting old and turf is not good for him, but he has a few years left in the corner outfield and is roughly a league-average hitter. He also is a fan favorite, selling more than a few tickets and jerseys.
I sure would like to see him land with a contender.
Whyme
He doesn’t want to play on turf
pohle
saying this has no value after he has literally already signed to play 81 games on turf, before this last season.
Whyme
He said he doesn’t want to do it anymore!
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Can they pitch?
good vibes only
Geno to Toronto would be tough from a clubhouse perspective but I’d be okay w it
PutMeinCoach88
I’ll be honest, if Schneider comes out swnging this Spring, he has every chance to win the 2B job. I’d also take a long hard look at Orelvis Martinez development, he might be a good option at the hot corner. Can’t be worse offensively than Chapman was. As for an extra outfielder, I’d like to see Cam Eden or signing of Michael A. Taylor as a CF/bench OF winning a job, also with a signing or trading of another OF. Bring in another starter somehow and I think our team is ready to contend.
But it’s Shatkins we’re talking about, so I don’t have much faith. Ohtani and Bellinger probably off the table for sure.
its_happening
Jays failed to give Orelvis adequate playing time at 3B to prepare him in 2024. But, he did turn it around with the bat.
MoneyBallJustWorks
I’d love to see the Jays go after Hader. I have concerns with Romano. The back plus his metrics are heading in the wrong direction.
iverbure
Based on the way Hader has been abused he’s Bj Ryan just waiting to happen. The comparison sucks from an early career example but he Ryan was a big lefty who came in got paid got injured and never the same.
its_happening
Horrendous comparison of BJ Ryan. Ryan did not have Hader’s career when he started, nor are they similar in stuff. Chalk it up to a guy who doesn’t know baseball to make a bad comparison because they both throw left handed. Instead, try saying something smart like, “Jays need to spend elsewhere and they already threw big money at Chad Green to stay”.
Fixed it for you.
iverbure
I agree it’s a perfect comparison now shut up
YaGottaBelieveAgain
The Varsho trade won’t be as painful if TOR gets Gurriell Jr to come back
I’d give him 4 or 5 years for ? __________
Are there any serious concerns about Vlad Jr besides weight problems? Hopefully no whispers of PED usage
its_happening
His brain on the bases.
Murphy NFLD
I think the outfield is a bigger worry then the dirt but the jays need 1 infield edition. I dont think Chapman is the right call but Bo isnt an elite defender so having a bad 3b makes him look worse. I see Biggio as the IF/OF utility and i like him, then IMO 2/3 of Orelvis, Barger and Schneider make the team one getting the 2b/3b job and the other being the back up who still gets a few ABs. Orelvis is RHH the other 2 are left so Schneider as the extra man 1 of the other 2 start and that leave room for an outside edition. Might be easier to give 1 of the young guns the 3b job and find a 2b. The jays need 2 OF 1 starter and 1 who could start 80-100 games in case of injury and they need to find a way to add a 30 HR bat somewhere
MoneyBallJustWorks
Rogers centre built on an oil patch? I get the Jays have money but you just shelled out a billion dollars
Stealing Signs
Second richest owner in baseball, so yeah, it’s doable
MoneyBallJustWorks
I’m from Toronto originally so I understand the market. I agree fans will support, but when was the last time you saw a team shell out a billion dollars on contracts in one offseason.
Stealing Signs
Sign Ohtani & Yamamoto.
Trade for Louis Robert Jr.
Robert plays RF, Varsho CF, Springer LF. Sign Michael Brantley as depth.
Orelvis Martinez at third.
Plan the parade.
MoneyBallJustWorks
and who are you trading for Robert?
Old York
Bellinger, Ohtani and Soto.
iverbure
Oh you expect the jays or any team to have the greatest off season ever and acquire every top free agent.
None of that is even remotely realistic
iverbure
No team should spend a billion on payroll in one offseason that’s unrealistic and a stupid idea.
iverbure
Ignorant fans like yourself who suggest these absolute moronic takes and act like it’s the way to win are the reason why highly educated people like myself have to waste my time making sure you know you aren’t smart and have zero baseball knowledge.
People like you are holding the sport back. Making me waste my time with you and you need to be told you’re wrong about everything make no mistake about that, while I should be talking with the biggest influencers in the sport like I do, making badly needed adjustments to the sport and thinking or new and great idea like I do every day with the people who matter.